READER COMMENTS ON
"N.O. Doctors: 'We had to kill our patients'"
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Doug Eldritch
said on 9/11/2005 @ 1:00 pm PT...
TERROR ALERT!!
Karl Rove's friend Tom Ridge, dressing up like a terrorist again.
"We love peace, but on our terms."
This bunch of loser criminals is totally predictable....Of course Cheney and PNAC love peace....If you give them money and a few billion $$$ contracts for Halliburton, that is! >8-)
They must fear the threat of impeachment now, or they wouldn't be pulling out fake american boogeymen to create more terrorist attacks.
:hehe:
Doug
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colleenmilitarymom
said on 9/11/2005 @ 1:04 pm PT...
O My God
The people who died by injection were given a peaceful death by caregivers who cared.
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colleenmilitarymom
said on 9/11/2005 @ 1:12 pm PT...
Respect for the dead: Why are the bodies still not taken of?
This is further proof of the incompetance/uncaring of WHOEVER.
I've said before: Isn't there someone or some agency in the whole United States of America that can dispose of these bodies in a timely manner?
Last week: Can't some one in the whole US of A get them water?
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Sam
said on 9/11/2005 @ 1:33 pm PT...
If the MSM hasn't picked this story up perhaps we should remind them that the world is watching.
Since foriegn correspondents seem more capable of reporting the events accurately I believe the locals should probably fold up their tent and move their desk outside the USA so they can get a clearer picture.
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Nana
said on 9/11/2005 @ 2:03 pm PT...
It's a shame the politicians like bushco, don't have to take the Hippocratic Oath.
These DR.s don't need to worry about their souls.
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colleenmilitarymom
said on 9/11/2005 @ 4:39 pm PT...
Where are The Culture of Life people???
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Nana
said on 9/11/2005 @ 5:17 pm PT...
Having a big party at the Pentagon, I think. To celebrate??
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Kira
said on 9/11/2005 @ 6:28 pm PT...
The horror of what happened to Louisiana continues and the bu$h administration is caught in more obfuscation and/or LIES:
Cover-up: toxic waters 'will make New Orleans unsafe for a decade'
Toxic chemicals in the New Orleans flood waters will make the city unsafe for full human habitation for a decade, a US government official has told The Independent on Sunday. And, he added, the Bush administration is covering up the danger.
In an exclusive interview, Hugh Kaufman, an expert on toxic waste and responses to environmental disasters at the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), said the way the polluted water was being pumped out was increasing the danger to health.
The pollution was far worse than had been admitted, he said, because his agency was failing to take enough samples and was refusing to make public the results of those it had analysed. "Inept political hacks" running the clean-up will imperil the health of low-income migrant workers by getting them to do the work. **MORE**
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big dan
said on 9/11/2005 @ 7:27 pm PT...
What does the Religious Wrong and the MSM think of this? They BOTH railroaded Dr. Kervorkian into jail for the same reasons...hmmm...interesting analogy...and what about the stink the GOP made about Terry Shiavo??? I guess I'm looking for consistency from hypocrites, but that's reaching...
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big dan
said on 9/11/2005 @ 7:30 pm PT...
Where's the 24×7 congressional meetings the GOP had, when WHITE Terri Shiavo had her feeding tube pulled? Where's Jeb Bush, who called out the state police in Florida for Terri Shiavo?
Maybe because these people were black, it's OK that they were euthenized...
Where's HCOCDR/Ricky/Paula/etc...to explain this discrepancy???
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Nana
said on 9/11/2005 @ 8:01 pm PT...
Good link Kira. As usual, bush will ignore the experts. Why have the EPA, if your not going to heed their advice?
Big Dan, I doubt they even know about these traumatized doctors and nurses, much less care.
Resources were scarce, triage necessary and the right decisions were made.
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Kira
said on 9/11/2005 @ 8:42 pm PT...
I agree with you, Nana --- and I agree with Big Dan, too. If Clinton was President now, you know with certainty what every one of those hypocritical scumbags would be wailing at the top of their screeching voices. Right now they're looking for somebody to blame instead of taking care of business.
I know what bu$h's W stands for ... WHO can I blame???
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Phil
said on 9/11/2005 @ 9:57 pm PT...
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Ram
said on 9/12/2005 @ 1:13 am PT...
I pray that if I am ever dying and suffering in such a horrendous situation that I would have such compassionate doctors to help me to find my end more quickly and peacefully!
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Ken
said on 9/12/2005 @ 7:52 am PT...
{ed note: Deleted for repeated, flagrant violations of the very few rules we have here: Insulting other posters, posing under different names, etc.}
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Nana
said on 9/12/2005 @ 10:33 am PT...
Triage is in the realm of responsibility for Health Care Professionals. It's done, to a degree, in emergency rooms and on battlefields everyday. Prioritize to save lives.
If this reaches the MSM, Mr. McQueen and the hospital orderly can be interviewed, and should be.
Ken, go pray to your bush talisman for protection and guidance.
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Paula Lane of Waveland, Mississippi
said on 9/12/2005 @ 10:46 am PT...
"It felt like somebody dropped nuclear bombs on us. There's a lot of dead people here. We've lost a lot of family members."
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Kira
said on 9/12/2005 @ 11:19 am PT...
I don't guess you folks recognized #15 did you? I noticed Captain Cupcake made an appearance while I was on vacation. Its ubiquitous reference to IQ is all you need to know who it is. It is one of the most callous individuals alive.
Maybe it will fall off one of the trophy bridges in Alaska for use by 50 people, built by Cupcake's fearless fosdick leader. $454 million EASY to come up with for bridges used by a handful of people vs shoring up the levees in Louisiana .. bu$h [the worm he is] wiggled and squirmed and cut the requested amount of $11 million by half to abt. $5.5 million ... begrudgingly.
Critics of FEMA Fiasco Take Aim
Many conservatives are also upset with Bush at the moment, contending that he has violated the basic tenet of fiscal restraint. They fault him for presiding over a spendthrift GOP Congress that has been wasting money on trivial programs; earlier this year, the Republicans found $454 million for two bridges in Alaska, one of which goes to an island inhabited by 50 people. This happened at a time when New Orleans was seeking $11 million for a key flood-prevention project, and getting only half the money. The conservative Bush critics say the FEMA saga is an argument for a more efficient government that targets real needs. **MORE**
Crawl back into your fecal-filled orifice, bucksnot. I wish you thousands of dung beetles and life eternal.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 9/12/2005 @ 12:07 pm PT...
To my #18 --- bu$h BEGRUDGINGLY gave the $5 mil pittance to Louisiana for the levees ... that's what I meant to make very clear.
Remember when bu$h said (captured on video) on Sept. 1, "I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees."? After all the times he refused to give the small pittance required by Louisiana for the distinct purpose of shoring up the extremely important levees that had decades of dire warnings attached - you can't tell me he had no clue. He was actively involved in sucking that egg dry.
They will surely PAY on their JUDGMENT DAY. The dead and dying of Louisiana are on your backs, bu$h & pals --- "moral family values" guys? No effing way.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 9/12/2005 @ 12:50 pm PT...
Martial Law in Louisiana. Here's what the Department of Homeland Security has in store for us when a time of disaster or national emergency comes:
St. Bernard residents told to leave, or else
... "They shot our dogs!" Miller, a 54-year-old housewife, said of her mixed pit bulls, Angel and Hooch. She had gone inside to collect clothes and personal papers when she heard it.
"Boom! Boom!" Miller said. "Hooch came in and had blood all over him." ...
...The 61-year-old florist loves his house, but his most cherished belongings are his Lab and border collie mix dogs, Rose and Iris.
"This is like a ball and chain when they tell you to leave," said Cousin, motioning to his house.
It explains why he didn't evacuate last week, when Katrina still loomed in the Gulf of Mexico.
Deputies told Cousin that if he and his guests were still there the next time the police returned, they'd be shackled and taken away.
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A BLOT I tell you! A horrible, unforgivable STAIN on the blue dress of Katrina and Iraq. The BLOOD of thousands upon thousands --- the HIDEOUS BLOT - the bloodstain.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 9/12/2005 @ 1:11 pm PT...
WAS THIS ANOTHER FAKE STORY? I dont think so.....not according to crooksandliars.com
ANYONE PREPARED TO WORK?
MSNBC: Mike Brown Resigns
Michael Brown has permanently resigned, and Bush* approvals continue to fall!!!
New opening for FEMA chief: Must have donated to Bush campaign, have intellect level 40, and be prone to making mistakes and dicking around. Think you can qualify? mail president@whitehouse.gov !
WHO'S REALLY RESPONSIBLE?!?? WE NEED BUSH, CHENEY TO RESIGN!!!!!!
Force Bush to Resign immediately people, everyone hates him and hes become a casualty to the republicans. Then we only have to deal with Cheney/Hastert. Force him to resign, think about it: We can't impeach him immediately and it will take a while to convict him. We can't go after him either for at least 4 months until washington is cleaned up. Just pressure him to do the right thing and resign....
To save face, I believe Bush would resign. Cheney will never do anything like that but we can boot Bush out of there, and start shaming the R's!!!!
Example of letter you can write: ( comments@whitehouse.gov)
"Bush, I don't think you're Hitler or Maria Antoinette.
I think you are just simply a severely misguided man living in his own world. I think that while you have been worse than Nixon, you aren't as evil as Nixon and you have alot of problems.
I think you are a very naive man who tries to please everybody, including your rich friends and ends up doing alot of evil things in the process. I'm sorry George, I just don't think you're cut out for this job.
The one thing you were supposed to be good at, protecting us, has fallen apart. You've been listening to greedy millionaires and not the common man, that's why everyone hates you now. You have too much callous disregard for the disenfranchised, like they're not even part of your world. I believe it was your mother's fault. Whatever the case, to save the humiliation please do the right thing.
Resign immediately from office and go spend time with your family. The Iraq war is a disaster, and the War Criminals like Rumsfeld are going to keep making it worse as your approval ratings and everything else just collapse. We can deal with the criminals, and we won't have to impeach you.
You can get a better plea bargain and not have to spend all that prison time, or go to the ICC like Rumsfeld will have to. All you have to do is give up, and throw in the towel. Show you're a better man than these sick extremist bastards. Resign.
And hey, maybe one day we'll give you an honorary plaque for doing the first good thing you've ever done: Resigning. Remember, america understands.
We just know what's best. When someone is psychologically unfit, or dangerous, its best for them to go away.
That's what happened to Mike Brown, and you're next. Resign and none of us will begin to impeach you. And maybe there's a special prize out there, maybe we'll finally see ariel sharon and saddam hang!
Signed,
An american"
Doug E.
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Ken
said on 9/12/2005 @ 1:37 pm PT...
Am I being censored now?
{ed note: You weren't before, but you are now that you've brought your idiotic postings to my attention! Thanks! They've been deleted for repeated, flagrant violations of the very few rules we have here: Insulting other posters, posing under different names, etc.}
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 9/12/2005 @ 1:53 pm PT...
bwahahaha bucksnot! You should be, but why should we? Everybody should be allowed to see what kind of stupidity is out there in the bu$h-wingnut camp. We all know your picture is in the dictionary beside the word cretin.
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Nana
said on 9/12/2005 @ 2:16 pm PT...
I agree Kira, this one is so...cretin, as you say. Hope they send Little Paul back, at least he was entertaining, in his own pitiful way.
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Jerry O'Riordan
said on 9/12/2005 @ 8:18 pm PT...
If you good folks can get Bush/Cheney to resign together, then that's great! If only Bush resigns, then we're stuck with Cheney!!!!!!!!!!
Do you really want a President Cheney?????
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Ken (24.237.149.223)
said on 9/13/2005 @ 9:13 am PT...
{ed note: Deleted for repeated, flagrant violations of the very few rules we have here: Insulting other posters under different names, etc.}
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kfarshima@beiruttimes.com
said on 9/13/2005 @ 9:20 am PT...
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Mooser
said on 9/13/2005 @ 10:40 am PT...
This story has all the earmarks of "atrocity propaganda" on the old "the-women-killed-themselves-rather-than-fall-into-the-hands-of-the-savages" model. Where were any hospitals in danger of being overrun? Euthanasia is illegal in LA. and if this was done, it would be a dark, dark secret. The only person named in the article McQueen, works at a town a half an hour north of New Orleans.
The point of the story is to portray the loafers and rappers, oopps, looters and rapists, as so savage that sick patients had to be killed so they wouldn't fall into their hands. I don't buy it. The article says the patients were going to die anyway. When? In six months?
If patients were killed by morphine overdose, it will be quite easy to determine that for weeks after their death. The doctors or nurses or who(?) that did this could be charged with murder.
There also exists the possibility that the hurricane was used as an excuse to do away with poor elderly patients whose ability to pay was in doubt.
And the Daily Mail is not a reliable paper.
I sent the story to a blogger, a pathologist who was there with the relief effort, and he had heard nothing of this.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 9/13/2005 @ 10:47 am PT...
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Iso
said on 9/13/2005 @ 4:40 pm PT...
Still trying not to think in terms of the EC (evil conspiracy) but as I was reading posts and other info regarding the removal of bodies and the SCI contract, anews story on TV just casually mentioned something about 'authorities' in LaFayette LA burning rotten meat and odors that anyone might smell.... too weird.
Also, don't know where to post this, but is my understanding correct that FEMA or any other govt entity claims that there is NO centralized repository of information for evacuees to locate loved ones? On the FEMA web site it's a mix of YAHOO (not kidding) and local govts. for info. under the govt heading.
Yet based on one state (FL) site, I found this:
Disaster Housing Resource (D.H.R.)
website :: http://www.dhronline.org/
DHR is a web based data storage tool that allows property owners or representatives to list and manage their own property. In some cases an agency, like FEMA, might upload all their available resources into the DHR to allow the public faster and easier access to that information.
The search of the uploaded properties allows users to find a property that meets their individual needs. The search parameters also include regional/geographic formulas that will allow a user to expand their search criteria to neighboring zip codes and school districts.
DHR also has a built in upload system that allows users with vast amounts of property listings to batch upload their information. FEMA has used this function nightly to upload approximately 11,000 records.
So my question is.... If they have that capabililty for real estate inventory, why can't they adapt it for humans???????? Please tell me what I'm missing, 'cause I hope I am.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 9/13/2005 @ 5:54 pm PT...
MSNBC, Keith Olberman just did an interview with a NO doctor re. the plausibility of 'The Mail' article.
Mr olberman conducted the interview with sensitivity and insight. It is my opinion that the doctor confirmed that this is credible, but he would have used a different drug. Mr Olberman remarked that a better drug may not have been available to them in this emergency, the doctor agreed.
This is my understanding of the interview.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Jerry O'Riordan
said on 9/13/2005 @ 8:09 pm PT...
Hats off to Keith Olbermann on MSNBC's Countdown!
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 9/13/2005 @ 8:47 pm PT...
kfarshima@beiruttimes.com - Unfortunately Ken/Karla Stout/Buckshot (various names used because he/she is too cowardly to post openly or even with a single name) has many times offered money for various things, and has each time shown him/herself to be a welcher, unable to backup his/her nonsense.
Ignore him/her. Since he/she came up with the great idea we will go ahead and remove posts from him/her from here on out where we find time due to his/her flagrant inability to follow rules or show even the slightest bit of honor.
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Paul (24.237.149.14)
said on 9/14/2005 @ 3:35 pm PT...
{Comment by "Paul" aka Ken/Karla Stout/Pete/Buckshot deleted for repeated and flagrant inability to follow the few rules we have here. Including not posting under different names and not insulting other commenters. And not acting like a 2 year old.}
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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DC
said on 9/19/2005 @ 6:22 am PT...
So I agree with all that our government is terrible and they could have been there. I also agree that if I were 1 of those patients I would have wanted to die by injection then to die of drowning rape, etc. but it should be know that this 'article' if from the London Mail. That paper isn't quite as bad as The National Inquirer, but it certainly isnt the NYTIMES or The Post, etc. It could have happened, but more than likely (since no reputable US papers or correspondents picked it up, including the Associated Press or Reuters) it did not. Sorry all. Another sign it probably did not - you dont hear from any of the patients that DID make it out! Surely a real reporter would have interviewed THOSE people.
Next time you might want to stick to VERIFIABLE news