READER COMMENTS ON
"Thomas Noe Taint Spreading: Look Out Washington!"
(11 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 7/12/2005 @ 3:13 am PT...
Gold coins don't leave a paper trail. Maybe that was the whole point of the Ohio Workmen's Compensation Board buying Noe's coin collection to the tune of $50 million...it could then be sent to the Bush campaign without being traceable.
What I can't figure out is how they thought they could get away with it. The missing $13 million wasn't hard to notice. Did they assume Republican control of the Attorney General's office would keep it under wraps?
The Toledo Blade is one heroic newspaper.
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Catherine a
said on 7/12/2005 @ 3:27 am PT...
Even if all the money is returned there's no way to turn the clock back in terms of any access, influence or favours received.
Just returning the money is not a "punishment." Consequences would have to be far more serious to have an impact.
Besides, who would the money be returned to? Ohio RNC coffers? Individual donors? Talk about having your cake and eating it, too!!!
So--if Bush is to give up these illegal campaign contributions, where should the funds go? (I don't see them being donated to charity, somehow.)
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 7/12/2005 @ 6:23 am PT...
My guess is the real reason Tom Noe met with Karl Rove that day and advisors, was to figure out how to get the illegal money used for the Ohio election fraud in their coffers without being sniffed.
Amateurs if you ask me. The Ohio fraud is like staring right through a window.
Doug E.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Scott
said on 7/12/2005 @ 6:24 am PT...
My guess is the real reason Tom Noe met with Karl Rove that day and advisors, was to figure out how to get the illegal money used for the Ohio election fraud in their coffers without being sniffed.
Amateurs if you ask me. The Ohio fraud is like staring right through a window.
Scott
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Ada
said on 7/12/2005 @ 8:15 am PT...
The money returned from bush (not nearly what he received) plus all other illegal contributions should be returned to a special fund that can hire 'special investigator' that are themselves investigated prior to hire to assure they nor their companies have supported or donated to any political cause at any time 'ever'. This 'special investigator' would be tasked with investigating all reports of fraud both in campaign funding and voting.
We need this type of group since it's been proven by the recent DOJ Ohio investigation that they are unable to do their jobs because they're crooked assholes run by this adminstration.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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molly
said on 7/12/2005 @ 9:26 am PT...
Howard Dean, Brad, Jon Conyers, Barbara Boxer to name a few...because there are only a few speaking out for us. Love 'em!
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Charlie
said on 7/12/2005 @ 10:09 am PT...
Brad or Winter Patriot-
I may be interested in purchasing the 700= document book on the 04 election, what does it contain. Can you summarize a little.
Respectfully,
Charlie
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Scott
said on 7/12/2005 @ 10:18 am PT...
Doug, either you are accidently posting with my name or impersonating me. Either way I'd appreciate it if you stop.
Other then what I've already seen here, I got to add that it seems Karl Rove would have to talk about his role in election fraud soon.
If he is indeed taken out and indicted, they will probably want to know exactly what he told Thomas Noe and when he told it.
This whole situation is quite serious, and I imagine there is a number of co-conspirators with Rove in election fraud. They did it because of treason related crimes and needing to cover it up.
So and its what I would be asking, especially if I were a special counsel....How many times did he phone Andy Card or operatives like Tom Noe on election day and when the exit polls flipped?
Scott
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Winter Patriot
said on 7/12/2005 @ 10:24 am PT...
Hi Charlie: This description comes from the freepress.org website:
Did George W. Bush Steal America's 2004 Election? Ohio's Essential Documents" by Bob Fitrakis, Harvey Wasserman and Steve Rosenfeld (767 pages)
This collection of news analysis, legal documents and sworn statements from suppressed and disenfranchised voters may very well tilt the balance in revealing the election fraud in Ohio during the 2004 election. Foreword by Rev. Jesse Jackson.
I can't find anything more detailed about it. But I'll let you know if I do.
Or Howzabout this? You buy the book and tell us what's in it!
Of course if several other Bradbloggers bought the book --- and/or some other books --- Brad's permissions might be restored fairly soon ... but otherwise not ;-(
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COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 7/12/2005 @ 11:55 am PT...
For Catherine A: The money would be returnable to the Ohio Workmen's Compensation Fund, a state agency financed by the taxpayers. The fund paid Noe $50 million for his coins (effectively, the citizens of Ohio bought the coins) which were then placed under Noe's management as fiduciary to the fund itself (a conflict of interest, of course).
Suddenly $13 million vanished. The suspicion is that it went to the Republican party, and some of it might have gone to Bush's campaign directly. It's a very similar scandal to the Whiskey Ring (under Ulysses S. Grant in 1875) and Teapot Dome (under Warren G. Harding in 1923).
Grant and Harding, both born in Ohio, are American's two lowest-rated presidents, primarily because their administrations were scandal-ridden. Bush is their intellectual and ethical soulmate.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Old Turk ---- SEND BRAD $$$$$$$$ !!!!!
said on 5/31/2006 @ 6:14 pm PT...