No surprise. For those needing a reason why:

http://www.democraticund...address=104×3688434

Peace.

http://www.missionnotaccomplished.us

Nice reporting, Brad - Bradville is the first place I visit every time I log on, and you continue to prove my inclination right. And I love your understated style. Please keep up the outstanding work! If I could send you some money from the CheeZee Repuglick I would. Hell, I'll find a way. You the man! You and Conyers! Conyers/Friedman 08!

I continue to misunderestimate the stunning incompetence of these guys. Do they really think that by deleting Galloway's testimony they can squelch it? That horse left the barn last Tuesday.

Of course, they were fools to have invited him to testify in the first place. And fools again for not being even marginally prepared for the scorching testimony they recieved. What did they think Galloway was going to say?

I don't know whether Galloway is innocent or not. But he is obviously more intelligent, and immeasurably more believable than his accusers!

Galloway? There is no one named Galloway that anyone needs to be concerned about --- and there was certainly no one named Galloway who testified before the George W Bush Memorial Senate.

And --- it is Double Plus UnGood for anyone to comment on or link to anything about someone who is being airbrushed out of existence . . .

showing Galloway's testimony on C-Span2 NOW!

Apparently we aren't supposed to know that some people are alleging the US was responsible for the bulk of the scandal. If the allegations were false, why wouldn't they let the accusations come out into the open, then disprove them?

The purpose of this UNOFP probe that the Senate is doing is to besmirch the names of people who opposed the Iraqi sanctions & war. Period. Galloway pointed out that the committee had a list of 270 names of people who were involved in the scandal, and they somehow shaved it down to a handful. Stances on Iraqi sanctions & war are, apparently, 2 of the criteria this committee is using to select who they go after. Yes, the first 2 people they hammered (Zhirinovsky and Pasqua) did actually participate in the scandal. We showed proof of that. But not Galloway. Galloway, in fact, cited specific instances where the "evidence" against him had already been proven to be forged.

Remember back when Wolfowitz claimed the Iraqi war would pay for itself? Remember who got all of the rebuilding contracts in Iraq? The idea was that only those who were on the side of "freedom" and "democracy" would be allowed to take part in whatever profit there was to be had from this war. Well, now that it's blindingly obvious that the Iraqi war has not and will not "pay for itself", members of the "coalition of the willing" are finding that this is a huge net loss in money. Wolfowitz has been sent to head the World Bank to take care of that problem, but in the meantime, we're apparently still pissed off at the people who didn't support us. And seeing that leaving them out of the rebuilding contracts in Iraq isn't going to spite them at all, we're apparently looking for another way to do so: UNOFP scandal investigations. or maybe we should call this what it really is: "Operation Smite Those Who Oppose Us".

As I remember, at the end of the questioning, Galloway actually left materials to be entered into the record, which Coleman or Levin agreed to do.

Brad,

Excellent Job!!! Galloway was BRILLIANT in his testimony. You've busted them AGAIN!!! Keep up the great job that you're doing.

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Oh, good grief. This must be what Coleman meant when he said Galloway was "irrelevant."

From the Unabashed Dictionary:

irrelevant, adj....causing extreme discomfort to the power structure...irksome...tending to ruffle...not consistent with established wisdom...unpleasant to the ears...of or pertaining to a damaging source

The whole George W. Bush administration are a bunch of posturing lyers, truth distortors, or blatently hide the truth if it differs from their "agenda" or point of view they are pushing. Yes, scientific studies and theory gets in the Bushit way. Bush and Cheney are the leaders of wealthy benefactors in a war they created even if they cannot be credited yet with actual 911 involvement. It is a proven fact that Condolezza Rice head of the security department at that time knew of the a planned attack). She was rewarded with her efforts of lying about Iraqi ties to Alkaida and WMD by being Bush's new Secretary of State. Murderers of a new blind America. Strip Americans of their voice by stealing the last 2 Presidential Elections and then use your Congressional majority to centralize your power out of the hands of the people. Lucky i ain't in Michigan this weekend.

Previously blogged these remarks at the blog about Bush giving a speech this weekend at the Grand Rapids College graduation cerimony. Looks like Galloway's testimony doesn't fit the way the subcommittee want to write the "Food For Oil" story so the "Hide The Evidence And Pretend It Never Existed" method regularly used by the BUSHIT ADMINISTRATION has been employed. It doesn't matter if they're called Democrat or Republican, the majority in Congress are Fcking ROBOTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Denial (of the internet kind) is what they are into by hiding or not publishing the document.

Propaganda and plunder is the admin's trade and congress is now caving in to the neocon fascism.

If you think about it, this shows that they are afraid that the public will believe Galloway.

As the popularity of the president and his neocon cohorts goes down more and more, people are more inclined to believe Galloway told it straight.

The neocons are probably afraid the people will see them for what they really are - liars.

majority in Congress are Fcking ROBOTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

No, I believe if they are repubs, they are into animals not robots.

Out, out Damned Spot....

but no matter how much they rub, it's still gonna be there

"Internets" are dangerous things ,we'll have to see if we can make'em safe for normal Amerikans.Where's that "anykey " gone?

Hi, Dredd #11 - People DO see them as liars, thieves and murderers. The question is, what are the people going to DO about it???? Do the law books cover the subject of when authority and judicial systems are corrupt, then what are decent citizens to do??? Can they make citizens' arrests??? Form their own courts and juries???

OT but VIP

ANNIHILATION FOR ALL

Check out the site again...it now states, "Panel 2, George Galloway , Member of Parliament for Bethnal Green and Bow , Great Britain, Mr Galloway did not submit a statement"

Now that Galloway has exposed them for the liars and thieves they are they are gonna do all they can to cover their asses. We need to be contacting Levin and our state senators to make sure that testimony stays part of the congressional record. It is the most accurate government testimony in decades!

More interesting OT:

NO VOLUNTEERS, OKAY WE’LL KIDNAP “RECRUITS”

Well, one good thing happened. A co-worker told me that some gut testimony by a guy named Galloway was buried on A11 of WaPo. A11 he said!! I was able to say, oh yeah, some blogs had that out front page, not long after it actually happened. Brad Blog, I said. Brad Blog, he repeated.

I guess the fascists couldn't find any dirt on Galloway.

Plan B: Hide the story.
Hide a story that was nationally televised. That and some duct tape oughta do it.

Peggy #15 You must be correct.

A conservative and former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury during the Reagan Administration is calling for the Impeachment of Bush as the only way to get America's reputation back in the eyes of the world! (link here).

Does it matter? The mainstream media have totally ignored the story....and have made no mention of Galloway once the testimony was given.

This joins an array of vital stories that continue to evade coverage - the smoking gun 'memo,' the ICRC report that corroborates the Newsweek account of Koran desecration, - on and on.

Here's a plea for all of us to start doing something:
WHAT WILL IT TAKE?

Bradblog was one of my first experiences in blogging about 6 months ago. I started because of the Cobb County fiasco about opposing evolution.
I've been on the net over 14 years.
Gosh dam!! BLOGGERS RULE! On the sights I go to, if you don't verify a new idea,you get shot down.
The internet is the future of information/media. Thanks to Brad Friedman and others.!

The link on the Senate sub-committee's website to the video of the hearing is mysteriously not working. Must be those darn webmasters messing up again!

Maybe it would help the senate sub-committee on investigations and their webmaster if we all mailed the links where Mr. Galloway's testimony is available to them. Perhaps they just don't know where to find a copy.

It can not be legal for an investigating committee to remove someone's testimony, can it? I mean, aren't they then guilty of fraud? The web page is as official and as legally binding as any written report. Could Coleman be sued for that? Surely there must be legal limits as to what a committee like his can do. Lawyers any comments?

As an outspoken critic of the Iraq war and as a charismatic speaker, George Galloway poses great political danger to Tony Blair. Obviously there has been some kind of agreement over the Atlantic to discredit Galloway this way. The only reason the Labour won in Britain again is not because of Tony Blair but because the alternative was even worse. But the voters of the Labour party would like to see Tony Blair go, there is no question about that. I don't have the latest figures, but from the start something like 80% of the Brits were against the war.

As I live over the pond in Wales I must say I was amazed at seeing this. We're quite used to seeing this adversarial style in our Parliament at question time and in committees. Clearly this committee was not prepared for this. No bowing or scraping for George, straight for the jugular and quite frankly Sen. Coleman and his cohorts didn't have a clue. I never supported the war and Blair and Bush are about as much use as a sun roof on a submarine. Then to cap it all to remove his (Galloway's) testament from the record smacks of Room 101. We have a saying over here: American and British democracy is the best political system money can buy.

This is no surprise to me, just par for the course. I regularly watch Prime Minister's question time where this type of dialog is nothing new. Say what you mean, and mean what you say. It's simple. That so many people are fawning over Galloway (including me), shows just how far we have gotten away from anything that resembles real representation, and expression of conviction.

They cannot pssibly allow Galloway's testimony to remain visible because it shows with brutal clarity just how morally corrupt, and spinless our elected officials are and that includes the Democrats with a few obvious exceptions, and we all know who they are. Here is another blistering attack, though not quite as eloquent as Galloway's, by Stan Goff, contributer to Counterpunc, on the Democrats and their lack of spinal fortitude. BTW, Levin's miserable performance at Galloway's testimony, shows exactly how Democrats are more like their fascist Republican brothers and sisters than what should be a real opposition party.

Peace

Lots of typos. Must Drink More Coffee.

I saw the Galloway testimony on C-Span2 at 5pm Central Time yesterday. We should all thank them for replaying it.
Please be aware and tell everyone about the following FCC action: on July 1, 2005 the FCC "broadcast flag" for digital video streams and HDTV recorders will make its debut. The FCC has mandated that every TV tuner, HDTV recorder, and digital TV stream must be broadcast flag enabled as of July 1, 2005.
Broadcast-flag technology uses a signal embedded in the digital TV stream that tells the recorder what it CAN AND CANNOT do with the stream once it's been captured!
The flag could dictate that the content CANNOT be copied to another device or archived to DVD!
In less than 6 weeks, most people will lose the ability to record such news as Galloway's testimony and make a copy of it. How will we prove what was said if we lose the ability to make copies?
Go to EFF.org for a list of currently available hardware that is not broadcast-flag enabled.
This info comes from the great people at MaximumPC magazine. The story can be found on page 16 of the June 2005 issue.
I am one of the 6 or 7. And I sent a snail mail to prove it.

Down once more into the depths of the darkess hell. Where endless night rules with blindness and cruelty. They don't care how far they have to go to see their reality held in place. What they don't understand is we already see the light of day and we will fight against swallowing their neo-con bullsh*t. There are people like Brad standing guard at the watch tower. We will discover the depths of their hell and may they roast in them forever. May they all get what they deserve.

After a search around - I did find a video feed of Galloway's testimony. Here on BBC. Let them try and block it from British websites. No matter how many times they try to hide the truth, someone will find it. Peace.

Can anyone keep track of the lies? First we went after weapons of mass destruction, now we’re trying to create democracy when the Republicans have squashed it here at home. Everyday it’s a new pack of lies.
Hearing Bush talk about “democracy” is like hearing Adolf Hitler talk of compassionate treatment of the Jews. For him to talk of “freedom” is like hearing Paris Hilton discussing Albert Einstein’s Theories of relativity.
What a wonderful fictional world we live in, where many people believe the universe came from a magician’s show and a brain-dead ex-frat-boy can pretend to lead the world’s only superpower.

To paraphrase Stalin, "No testimony, no problem."

GALLOWAY LIED!

The British charity investigation organization filed its response to his statements about his "charity".

They stated that they were UNABLE to complete their investigation as he claimed because Galloways business partner absconded with the RECORDS!

GALLOWAY DODGED ANSWERS!

The British press was laughing at America's response to Galloways bluster, intimidation, and dodging of answers. They said American's are not use to British style politics where mostly members of parties exchange bluster, rhetoric, and intimidation for accomplishments.

GALLOWAY HAS A FAKE SCOTTISH ACCENT!

Galloway is perfectly capable of speaking without his "Scottish" accent but uses for its effect when he knows the cameras are rolling. This manner of speaking "endears" him to the far left wing labor fanatics and socialists that re-elect him in his region.

GALLOWAY SPOKE WELL OF STALIN and SADDAM!

Go read Wikipedia for more startling information on what Galloway has said and done in the past, including stating the old Soviet Union was a great asset to the world, saluting Saddam in 1994 and wishing him success and a long life!

AP #37 That hot air has already been debalooned (link here).

Galloway was on CSPAN2 this afternoon - statement and Q&A with Coleman and Levin. I don't know if they'll repeat it.

re #38

Thanks for that Dredd. You're always on top of the legalese. Makes me wonder if you ever went to law school. Lots of intelligent, articulate people here and Dredd is always out front in that regard.

Dredd your line: "That being said, Galloway won a libel suit against those who slandered his name with this oil for food fallacy. It was proven to be a fallacy in the common law courts. And take note that since Galloway commenced the lawsuit, the burden of proof was his to bear."

Good GRIEF! All that was "proven" was that the newspapers fell victim to a so called forged document in their reporting.

The lawsuit NEVER proved that Galloway never took bribes, it simply said that the documents the newspapers used had been forged and as a result they should have either never printed their reports or continued digging until the found more reliable documents!

RIGHT NOW as we post the British charity investigation team is obtaining copies of all documents from Senator Colemans team. They are going to re-open his case since Galloways partner ABSCONDED with the books and records and made their investigation IMPOSSIBLE.

I am surprised and ASTONISHED that the left in America is standing up for people that stole hundreds of millions of money that was meant for the children of Iraq. Iraq's own former leaders have said openly that this was not a "hidden program" but a relatively open program meant to reward those that were supporting Saddam!

I truly do not understand what the left in America thinks they have to gain by standing in the way of convicting criminals that helped Saddam bust sanctions that resulted in 17 UN resolutions broken that resulted in our throwing out the terms of his surrender and getting rid of him.

To align yourself with those that Saddam was bribing puts yourself at equal with those that Hitler paid off so he could violate the terms of the Paris surrender accord of WW1.

Unbelievalbe. Just simply unbelievable. No doubt you all would have supported Stalin's murder of millions also.

LOL.. well, just watched the whole thing.. I must say, as someone not on trial and not before a subcomittee, I would say "yeah, I'd be troubled getting money that came from illegal activities".. and Levin tried to be "indignant" about it.. but guess what? based on MOST reports of thousands of companies, ALL politicians in this country that take money from corperations are at SERIOUS risk of having money gotten from illegal manners.. to pretend that politicians "give the money back" is arrogant and ignorant. If I was on trial and had a bunch of hacks trying to back me into a corner with language that was not fair so they could toss it back into my face later, I'd give them a hard time as well.

That said, the money from could well ALL have come from legitimate business and the profits from the "oil" might not have been part.. To say that you should not take -any- money from -any- corperation(s) that have -ever- done anything illegal means that NO politician should ever take money from compaines given the vast perponderance of "large corperations" that are fined EVERY YEAR for violations of various laws.

Other than at the very end when he was being asked very "unfairly worded and presented questions" in an attempt to set him up for a fall, he did NOT dodge questions, he answered them all. With the exception of the "do you think this document is fake", which he rightly asked to be able to go over forensicaly (sp). I thought he did a bang up job..

http://www.weeklystandar...cle=5641&R=C55925A6A

In several cases, the documents suggested that a man named Fawaz Zureikat, a Jordanian tycoon, had been intimately involved in these transactions. Galloway's name also appears in parentheses on the Zureikat papers--perhaps as an aide-memoire to those processing them--but you must keep in mind that the material does not show transfers directly to Galloway himself; only to Zureikat, his patron and partner and friend. In an analogous way, one cannot accuse Scott Ritter, who made a ferocious documentary attacking the Iraq war, of being in Iraqi pay. One may be aware, though, that the Iraqi-American businessman who financed that film, Shakir al-Khafaji, has since shown up in the captured Oil-for-Food correspondence.

I urge you all to read the entire article.

These aren't lies:

"I gave my heart and soul to stop you committing the disaster that you did commit in invading Iraq. And I told the world that your case for the war was a pack of lies."

“I told the world that Iraq, contrary to your claims did not have weapons of mass destruction. I told the world, contrary to your claims, that Iraq had no connection to al-Qaeda. I told the world, contrary to your claims, that Iraq had no connection to the atrocity on 9/11 2001. I told the world, contrary to your claims, that the Iraqi people would resist a British and American invasion of their country and that the fall of Baghdad would not be the beginning of the end, but merely the end of the beginning."

"Senator, in everything I said about Iraq, I turned out to be right and you turned out to be wrong and 100,000 people paid with their lives; 1600 of them American soldiers sent to their deaths on a pack of lies; 15,000 of them wounded, many of them disabled forever on a pack of lies."

"If the world had listened to Kofi Annan, whose dismissal you demanded, if the world had listened to President Chirac who you want to paint as some kind of corrupt traitor, if the world had listened to me and the anti-war movement in Britain, we would not be in the disaster that we are in today."

"Senator, this is the mother of all smokescreens."

"You are trying to divert attention from the crimes that you supported, from the theft of billions of dollars of Iraq's wealth."

"Have a look at the real Oil-for-Food scandal. Have a look at the 14 months you were in charge of Baghdad, the first 14 months when $8.8 billion of Iraq's wealth went missing on your watch. Have a look at Haliburton and other American corporations that stole not only Iraq's money, but the money of the American taxpayer."

"Have a look at the oil that you didn't even meter, that you were shipping out of the country and selling, the proceeds of which went who knows where? Have a look at the $800 million you gave to American military commanders to hand out around the country without even counting it or weighing it."

"Have a look at the real scandal breaking in the newspapers today, revealed in the earlier testimony in this committee. That the biggest sanctions busters were not me or Russian politicians or French politicians. The real sanctions busters were your own companies with the connivance of your own Government."

It's The Truth!

Oh.. and American Patriot.. the POINT is, Galloway did NOT engage in -any- illegal activity. His charity got money from someone that did.. and now they are showing it and some how saying Galloway should be prosecuted?

Get a grip, would ya? Sure, I agree.. prosecute -everyone- that was involved in getting money -directly- from the food-for-oil program.. including the AMERICAN POLITICIANS that take money from -any- company that directly profited from the scandal.. Oh, wait.. we'll not do that because we'd lost lots of Republicans, right? HELLO? Money from OIL COMPANIES? that MOSTLY goes to Republicans? and those few businessmen in America that got filthy rich and donate to various Republicans?

I submit that American Patrioit is not really a patriot at all.. Someone that wants an innocent person (from all that we've seen so far) to be prosecuted for crimes others have committed? Not very American, if you ask me.. And, are you also going to call for the Impeachment of the Administration? It's a WELL KNOWN FACT that they led us to an illegal war based on LIES.. Lying to Congress is a crime, and Shrubman and his flunkies KNEW going in they were lying, the facts are there to support it.. but his RePugNecon asswipe buddies won't prosecute.. hmm.. Yeah, patriotic there.. I bet you would have waved your Swastica (sp) as Hitler walked the streets, eh? Like your patriotism..

Let me clarify my #44 above.. second paragraph.. I personally do NOT think we should be prosecuting people who received political contrabutions from criminals. You can't reasonably expect people to know all the details of where all the money comes from.. and, as was pointed out, oil was a SMALL part of what Fawaz Zureikat was doing as a business (even if it's a major part, Galloway can't be held responsible unless he actually gave money to Fawaz to invest in the illegal oil)..

Also, several documents have been PROVED to be faked, and most of those (if I recall what wikipedia showed) were by having FAKE entries of Galloway's name, in parenthesis.. Perhaps this other document is JUST ANOTHER FAKE? We won't know until the ORIGINAL is checked.. Not that our government would care to check the originals to make sure they weren't duped.. we like using fake memos/contracts to prove a point, right?

Supersoling #39 Yes I have a JD but no I am not a lawyer. And thank you for the kind words.

AP #40 Your typical neocon rant is simply more sore looser and sour grapes diatribe.

When Galloway sued the irresponsible MSM in britain's common law courts I suppose you think they rolled over and played dead? Laughable.

You need to get a grip and realize that they fought tooth and nail and ended up loosing ungracefully. Leaving only non-thinking supporters like you to parrot baseless and tasteless lies in abject intellectual emptiness.

If they repeated what you have said again guess what would happen to them AGAIN?

The MSM did not loose the case because they did not desperately try by pulling out all stops. They simply lost because they could not win.

And lest you become too self deceived, if the partner you bring up was for real, the MSM could have named the "partner" or the said partner would have to have been a party plaintiff.

And if there was a true partner as you have alleged that partner would have to be by law a party to the lawsuit. Whether primary party plaintiff or third party defendant. Its the indispensable party doctrine.

Your shrill incantations of what you desperately hope to be reality notwithstanding.

And your resort to calling anything and everything you disagree with "Hitler" and "Stalin" will render you over and over, like the other neocons doing it in the public eye, eligible for apology duty.

But since you have nothing to loose, already having lost credibility, I am not holding my breath for an apology.

Orwell lives. :angry:

Hey Guys-

Here's an idea of a protest, I don't even know if it is legal.

Get a minumum of 100, but as many as would volunteer, and march and protest in washington wearing Nazi uniforms with signs saying,

"Is this what you want?"

White people, Black people, Hispanics, jews, muslims, rednecks, etc... all those that beleive in democracy for all....in Nazi uniforms saluting the white house and asking, is this what you want....

but I think we already know the answer...does the rest of America....

get the message freaks, we are already a facist country ruled by a militaristic egomaniac, headed down a similar road that led to hitlers rule of germany in the 30's. Let draw the parrell.

Now how do we end it, with strong messages...

How about a bumper sticker with the white W (BuSH) and a swastica over it. It made me feel so uneasy that I havent done it yet...is it overboard?

There are two diaries at Dkos here and here that say that Bush's family has benefitted directly from the oil for food program. This is the smokescreen that Galloway talks about.

Whoooooops, the second link is to a different diary. Let's try this.

Thats better. BTW, one of the relatives implicated here is a democratic aide, or at least former. Same shit different letter.

I looked at the web-site to see if there was a contact number regarding the Galloway "omission". Does anyone know who to contact in order to make an opinion known?

Perhaps we need one of these

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed, --- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security --- Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. --- The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world."
Declaration of Independance

Another link for the Galloway lovefest.

I would like to again refer readers of this blog to a recent article posted on the Online Journal by Wayne Madsen which has considerabbly more background on the Galloway allegations than you can find in our pathetic MSM:

http://www.onlinejournal...Madsen/052105madsen.html

titled: "Galloway tongue-lashes Coleman; committee documents show Bush political friends and family paid Oil-for-Food kickbacks to Saddam Hussein"

The concluding paragraph is a barn-burner, especialy if Madsen's allegations can be proven:

George Galloway was correct when he called the Coleman Committee the "mother of all smoke screens." Major political contributors and friends of Bush not only paid illegal kickbacks to Saddam Hussein but personally profited from sanctions-busting with Iraq. Those involved in the scheme included individuals who date back to the Reagan/Bush 41 "cluster bombs and biological and chemical weapons-for-oil" scandal of the 1980s. Galloway is correct when he stated that there is enough evidence on Mr. Bush and Mr. Blair and their neocon advisers to park them in prison cells in The Hague for an awfully long time.

http://www.sundayherald.com/49885

5/21/05

Galloway GOING TO JAIL!

In 2003 the Daily Telegraph published allegations that Galloway had received money from Saddam – allegations the newspaper said had been made in an Iraqi intelligence officer’s report, found, they claimed, in the wreck of the Iraqi foreign ministry and which were the subject of a successful legal action by Galloway. Afterwards, the MP told the BBC that he did not know if his friend Zureikat had been involved in oil deals. In Washington last week, Galloway updated this saying Zureikat “may have signed an oil contract”, though he said it had nothing to do with him.

If his association and friendship with Zureikat is embarrassing, and puts into question Galloway’s judgement, it is no less potentially damaging than his ties to Saddam Hussein’s former foreign minister, Tariq Aziz.

Aziz was also close to Zureikat. The two are said to have shared a prison cell in Syria in the early part of their lives. Galloway spent Christmas of 1999 or 2000 (he once said he couldn’t remember which) with both men.

Aziz is now being held by the US authorities in Baghdad. Last month Galloway called him a “political prisoner”, claiming he was “an eminent diplomatic and intellectual person” who was being illegally held in an Iraqi prison.

Galloway signed an international petition calling for his release, a petition signed by almost 200 prominent names, among them Tony Benn, the MP Bob Wareing, Lord Nazir Ahmed, Lord Rea, and Hans von Sponeck, former UN Humanitarian Co-ordinator of the oil-for-food programme in Iraq from 1998 to 2000.

Former Labour MP Oona King, who Galloway defeated in Bethnal Green, said: “This tells you everything you need to know about George Galloway. Tariq Aziz was a henchman of Saddam Hussein, implicated in terrible crimes, including the gassing of the Kurds at Halabja. But Galloway thinks he is an intellectual.”

The last line says it all:

"Tariq Aziz was a henchman of Saddam Hussein, implicated in terrible crimes, including the gassing of the Kurds at Halabja. But Galloway thinks he is an intellectual.”

AND YOU PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING THIS TRASH!

UNBELIEVABLE.

AP#57, where are the weapons of mass destruction? Where are the Iraqi ties with Al Qaida? Why do you hate America so much?

http://news.independent....s/story.jsp?story=640428

Galloway ally sells US arms kit to Iraq
By Severin Carrell
22 May 2005

The Jordanian businessman at the centre of claims that George Galloway secretly bought oil from Saddam Hussein has a major contract to sell US military technology in Iraq, The Independent on Sunday can reveal.

Fawaz Zureikat has been accused by a US Senate committee of orchestrating illegal oil deals with the Iraqi dictator allegedly on behalf of Mr Galloway, the Respect MP for Bethnal Green and Bow, and a charity they jointly ran. Both men deny the claims.

It has now emerged that a firm run by Mr Zureikat, 51, and other members of his family, has the exclusive rights to sell highly sensitive military encryption technologies made by a US firm in Iraq.

Continued

veryworried: WMD in Iraq? Ask Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and 37 other Democrat Senators and uncountable Democrat Representatives that also said he had them.

You may recall, or not, that President Bush let Saddam break 17 UN resolutions, his 1991 cease fire and the terms of his 1991 surrender; then offered him one last chance to let the inspectors do their job in Iraq and Saddam said no. In addiition, every single day Saddam was trying to MURDER our air force pilots flying protection over Iraq.

You may recall, or not, that President Bush said at his State of the Union Speech in 2003 that we must take on Saddam BEFORE he becomes an imminent threat.

Wake up

AP#60 You are the one who needs to wake up. Your "president" lied to you in no uncertain terms that Iraq posed an immediate threat to the United States and that he had evidence of the WMD.

Well, just like Hans Blix discovered, so did the American forces discover that there were in fact no weapons of mass destruction. Your president's "evidence" just evaporated and now morons like you try to keep the lie alive.

You really do hate peace, justice and the American way to continue with such blatant disregard for the facts.

http://www.senate.gov/~g...Detail&HearingID=232

According to the formal Senate Committee web site etc etc ….. George Galloway never submitted a statement.

Panel 2 George Galloway , Member of Parliament for Bethnal Green and Bow , Great Britain. Mr. Galloway did not submit a statement”].

While Mr. Galloway spoke for over ten minutes – as advised by the panel – what he said wasn’t a statement – nor was it even opening remarks, not to mind a speech. (And well, he did hurt Norman’s feeling. I mean, come on, here he is, without a lawyer, without traditional Senate Committee obsequies. Who exactly does this nut think he is?). And besides all that - worst of all – and this I think is the most upsetting - he said stuff in his opening non statement speech/non Senate reported encounter - that was clearly always going to upset our Fox America’s idea of fairness and balance.

So to be clear – this Scottish loudmouth deserved to be gagged. After all, he (obviously) hadn’t read the Senate script: had the bad manners to give our Senators an earful (one that we the unelected should never deserve to read) and quite frankly after listening to this liberal I am so proud that we have nothing like his old world notion of respect for freedom of speech.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/...ews/politics/4553759.stm

@"American Patriot" #157...

That's a quote from someone who has a reason to be very bitter at Galloway for two reasons. (He's against labour... and he beat her in the election and took her seat!!!)

"Former Labour MP Oona King, who Galloway defeated in Bethnal Green"

'Sour grapes' and hearsay from someone who lost an election to Galloway... are not evidence of wrong doing.

Labour are bound to be trying to sully Galloways name because the truth hurts and they don't like dissent, especially not when it questions the pack of lies they've told.

Guys, leave AP alone.. that moron can't outwit a simple knot in his shoelaces..

Going to jail? NOTHING in his post implied that.. Iraq an "imminent threat"??? with 6 SCUDD missles, NO chemical or bio weapons, NO nuclear program, NOTHING and NO way to get missles beyond (the 6 SCUDDs) 25 miles?

AP, you, good sir, are a total moron. To make allegations (going to jail) then offer NO support for the statement PROVES you have -no- business here. Galloway SAID whatshisface is a VERY PROMINENT BUSINESSMAN in Iraq.. so your pointing out his having rights to sell "technology" is TOTALLY IRRELAVANT.. though, you are too daft to see that. As far as illegal oil sales, as Galloway pointed out, GALLOWAY had NOTHING to do with that.. he even said he feels 'troubled' for 'whatshisface' since he was likely going to jail.. but, that does NOT mean Galloway has done -anything- illegal.. What's more, he SPOKE THE TRUTH to the MORONS (and your friends in arms, apparently) in Congress.. something that is totally beyond the dilluted capacity of you.

Shrubman LIED about a LOT of things with regard to Iraq, including their threat level. If you are too stupid to see that, you have no business trying to convince us intelligent people to swallow your lies (and ignorance).

Show some "proof" that Saddam was a threat to the U.S. .. I'm SOOOOO damn sick of you idiots telling us how "bad Saddam was".. we know, we get it.. what YOU don't get is, that is IRRELAVANT on a global scale.. there are a LOT of "bad" dictators out there, we're not invading those countries now are we..?

Get a clue, get a grip, accept reality. So far (as far as I've seen) there has been NO evidence to show Galloway has commited -any- crimes. What's more, totally regardless of any alleged crimes, he spoke the TRUTH to Congress.. as a reaction, what do they do? Try and pretend he never spoke?

AP.. here's a thought.. YOU WAKE UP.. friggin moron..

American Patriot, you sully the name of actual real americans everywhere with your no-evidence slamming desperate critique of George Galloway.

For years, radicals have been trying to make Galloway look like he was helping Soddom Hussein and hundreds of other radicals. The fruitless and long-winded allegations have always been placed on Galloway and after all this time he has managed to win several lawsuits for libel slander.

What has the radical right in Britain and America won? Not ONE court case anywhere nor have they managed to once use a bunch of lies written up by Karl Rove to make George Galloway into some crime lord.

What does that say about the false AMERICAN PRETENSES BEING HELD HERE? And you call yourself an "american" patriot. You're no more patriotic than one of these folks.

http://www.ecotalk.org/V...tingMachineCompanies.htm

Get a grip on yourself for the last time. The radical right are senseless LIARS, and there has NEVER, been ANY war documents as they were all forgeries, besides of course these memos.

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com

And that's one memo which proves long in advance, Britain and the U.S.A were intent on fixing up facts around the policy. With no one questioning it either.

You see there's two forms of media now. Those who report the lies, and those who report the truth.

Matt

AP at #59.. I read your article.. found it

See also here.

What else can you expect...When an Official and legal remonstrance was delivered to the Pres. The Sen. and House for redress of greivinces by Robert Shultz and the "WE the People Orginization" and has been ignored much as our boarders have been ignored....can you expect any less of this...it is time to restore the Constitution and arrest prosecute and punish these criminals in Wahsington...They no longer Represent the American people and when they deviate from the Constitution and refuse to uphold their oath of office, they no longer are the legitimate govenment

In addition to the British memo, which said Bush had his mind made up to go to war with Iraq well before doing so, and which supports the testimony of Galloway, the CIA had plenty of dissent on the WMD lies the administration set forth (link here).

This CIA dissent also corroborates the British memo and Galloway's testimony.

It is simple. A president deliberately lied to the american people and has now killed more than 100,000 american and Iraqi people.

His neocon minions who aided him in his lies are likewise guilty before the jury of the american people.

Galloway spoke the truth in this instance.

Just checked the Senate website. Under George Galloway entry (Panel 2), they have added a statement--"Mr. Galloway did not submit a statement."

So, unless you "submit" a statement for the record, all business conducted in the Senate is "off the record?"

sheesh!

In the video of Galloway's testimony he twice indicates that he is submitting a document in his defence and indeed you see him submitting a document the first time he mentions it. One wonders what became of that document.

Dr. Alan H. Levinson #52 - Yes, there are several ways to get ahold of the Senate. Firstly - Here is a list of the members of the Senate committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. Secondly - Here is the home page for our US Senate. And lastly - to conact each Senator Go Here Find their name and you can contact them. Not that I'm saying they will listen to anyone. In my belief - they are too far gone for that. However, I did post a link above in post #34 where you can see the video of Galloway's statement and so forth. Maybe you can send it to them since they don't seem to believe it exists. Best of luck to you.

This is for American Patriot.

Some years back I had the opportunity to watch the Prime Ministers Questions on BBC. I would strongly suggest that you do so. This will probably give you an understanding of Galloway’s methodology and let you know that you should not take it personal.

I also just saw a recent review of Dateline in which they were discussing the Galloway senate hearings and one of the journalists asked a very pertinent question.

“Are they dumb”

With respect I ask you the same question. The journalist did not intend it as an insult and neither do I. I’ll explain why.

What did the Senators think George Galloway was going to do when he got to America?
Why did they not do their homework properly?
Why did they not get their facts right before asking him to appear before then?

If they were not prepared and they invited G.G, then the answer to the journalist question has to be yes.

If they never had any fact and had been throwing wild accusations(smoke screens) then it is even more disturbing as one may conclude that it is a common practice in the administration and therefore there was nothing wrong in it.

This brings us to your opinions; or arguments some have no supporting facts while some are distracting and bare no consequences on the issue.

Let us assume G.G believes Aziz is an Intellectual, What is wrong with that or how does that negate Aziz’s implication in atrocities. Hitler was a lover of Art does this make him a Good person, or because he committed atrocities does this then mean he is not an Art Lover.

Your whole clip on Galloway going to jail what has that got to do with the Senate hearings? The clip is about Zureikat and references his relationship with Galloway. By your argument are you suggesting that the man who met Sadaam as many times as Galloway but for different reasons be prosecuted too?

A thought for you? Think carefully about how this hearing has played out and what other situations bears similar resemblances, specifically how half-truths, unfounded allegations has created an avoidable situation.

In case you are wondering I support the Gulf war but strongly opposed the methodology, planning and implementation. It could have been done differently.

Unfortunately G.G stated quite concisely and without fear what John Kerry should have said. Who knows maybe he might have won the election. He was not a Flip Flopper, for whatever reason and I don’t know why he did not say as much as needed to be said. Maybe he did I don’t know.

While we are on the subject, why is the world’s greatest democracy so afraid of being truly democratic, why do I have to go to a British website to download a hearing that took place in the U.S and why are the U.S media not showing with as much vigor and repeats as they do for other Pro-administration issues. In my opinion this rivals the capture of Sadaam and the Victory on the submarine.

If I were you this is what I would be asking. You do not live in a glass bubble, step out of your area, ask questions, think and then ask more questions.

As it is said “KNOWLEDGE IS POWER” & “THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE”

Veryworried says "In the video of Galloway's testimony he twice indicates that he is submitting a document in his defence and indeed you see him submitting a document the first time he mentions it. One wonders what became of that document."

Simple; he lied AGAIN.

That is all Galloway does. Did you know he has no Scottish accent, it is fake.

Veryworried says "In the video of Galloway's testimony he twice indicates that he is submitting a document in his defence and indeed you see him submitting a document the first time he mentions it. One wonders what became of that document."

Simple; he lied AGAIN.

That is all Galloway does. Did you know he has no Scottish accent, it is fake.

Verywooried writes: "In the video of Galloway's testimony he twice indicates that he is submitting a document in his defence and indeed you see him submitting a document the first time he mentions it. One wonders what became of that document. "

Looks like he LIED to you again.

Did you know his Scottish ACCENT is FAKE. Yes tis. The British media was laughing how America fell for it.

Some clown comes on here and says Galloway is going to jail. Then he tells the posters here to wake up. That would be more like waking down.

Instead of spending so much verbiage trying to rip Galloway down, why not devote some time to the points he made? Obvious reason. They can't.

Even congress can't. That's why they want his testimony to disappear....so they don't have to answer to it. He was right, they were wrong.

AP #76 through #78 in true neocon style you think repeating your lies will somehow make them true. Let me piss on your parade: Your lies will never become true.

Galloway said there were no WMD before the war. America still went to war and what happened? No WMD.

The facts show Galloway did not lie. George W. Bush lied and hundreds of thousands of people have died because of it.

AP#60: "WMD in Iraq? Ask Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and 37 other Democrat Senators and uncountable Democrat Representatives that also said he had them."

And you know what? They were all wrong too! W-R-O-N-G, WRONG!

But please remind me again which individual ultimately had the power in 2003 to launch the war in Iraq.

(#60): "You may recall, or not, that President Bush said at his State of the Union Speech in 2003 that we must take on Saddam BEFORE he becomes an imminent threat."

Maybe the USA should take on Scotland, before they become an imminent threat.

There are imminent threats. They just weren't in Iraq. It's not really why Bush Syndicate went in there.

(#60): "Ask Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and 37 other Democrat Senators and uncountable Democrat Representatives that also said he had them."

More accurately, they believed, and supported, Bush/Blair's false claims that Iraq had them (Hans Blix-and-company's opinions notwithstanding). They were lied to, the same as we were.

The mood of the country, post-911, allowed Bush to get away with starting a war on false pretenses. They opened Pandora's Box over there, and they'll not likely get it closed in our lifetime. And there are idiots actually making excuses for Bush.

American Patri(ot) - First of all, did you actually WATCH the video clip or are you doing as many of the other right wingers do and just making it up as you go along? Why is it so hard for you to believe that the committee simply LIED!?! I watched the clip. I know what it's about. Do you? Okay, so you continue to point out that he doesn't have a Scottish accent. That has SOOOO much bearing on what he was saying. He could have been saying it in Swahili and it wouldn't change whether what he said was true or not. Bush speaks in Bushisms and while it makes him hard to understand - it still doesn't make what he says true. In the video, G.G. made a relevant point of - if they had proof for their statements against them - why could they not produce any proof. If they were accusing him of any crimes, why did they not call him, contact him or question him before declaring him guilty? Isn't it still true that someone is innocent UNTIL being found guilty. And would being found guilty in a fair trial include allowing him to speak for himself. Oh, that's right - according to them - he didn't include a statement - or produce documents. G.G. also states that he met Saddam exactly twice. And could prove what those meetings were about. He also points out that his meetings did not include selling Saddam arms or equiping the same enemy that we were then supposedly against.

My point being - if you are going to come here and rip us apart for our beliefs - you'd better come at us with more than lame rhetoric and a false accent. Bring it onnnnnnn. Bring us facts. Bring us evidence. Hell, give us anything other than your delusional vision of what holds in your mind to be truth, justice and the American Way.

shadowitches says "Isn't it still true that someone is innocent UNTIL being found guilty. And would being found guilty in a fair trial include allowing him to speak for himself."

Not according to Howard Dean you hero. He pronounced Delay guilty and jailed.

By the way, did you see your idiot Howard on Meet the PRess today? God what an imbecile.

AP#82 You still haven't explained to us why you hate America so much.

www.c-span.org SEEMS to have the galloway vs coleman video:

George Galloway, British House of Commons Member, Before Senate Subcmte. on Investigations
George Galloway, British House of Commons Member, testifies before a Senate Subcommittee on Investigations regarding Oil-for Food allegations.
5/22/2005: WASHINGTON, DC:

He said shadowiches - tee hee - does that mean my shadow itches? Or I am a Shadow Witch? Which or should I say Witch just goes to show that who ever you are - you have trouble reading. Awww, that explains it. You are challenged. Guess you slipped through the "leave no (rich, white) child behind" act that Bush is so fond of.

As for your accusations of Dean - you are Assuming that Dean is a hero of mine. (not only that - but you have a little typo there, tee hee) Or are you saying Howard Dean, you hero. Proclaiming me a hero? You know what they say of people who assume. Once again - finding facts where there are none. Can you produce a document that states I am a Dean supporter? Can you forge one? Or will you simple attempt to delete any facts that contradict your belief that I am a Dean supporter. Then again, you are calling him MY idiot. Does that mean that I own him? Or that I am somehow related to him? Hmm, maybe it would be best to get your facts straight BEFORE you make an accusation.

Quote from American Patriot #78

"Did you know his Scottish ACCENT is FAKE. Yes tis. The British media was laughing how America fell for it."

Gorgeous Georgie comes from Dundee, same as me, and his accent is 100% genuine, same as mine (though at times, I admit, he sounds more Glaswegian rough working class than Dundonian, maybe because he represented them for parliament - and I wouldn't even be too surprised should he develop a cockney accent now).

While it's true that he can enunciate more along the lines of good old posh south of England received pronunciation (again same as me and a lot of other Scots) he can also speak much more broadly and colloquially than he did in the senate - but then, we're all sometimes guilty of that here, for it confuses the 'American Patriot' type Americans who sometimes slip through our customs to bother us by visiting during the summer showing off their red necks while spouting how great their Bush is.

While I've always thought Galloway a wide boy and a champagne socialist, I've always believed him genuine in his support for Palestinians, not least because of his second wife and friends and he was genuine in his opposition to sanctions and the war - on all of which I think he's been proved right - whether he knew about, or was involved in, money scandals or laundering might be another matter - he's a politician after all - and considering the bigger fish caught doing just that, he's small potatoes anyway. But as I say, he's one of the most adroit politicians going, and I think has won every major battle he's been involved in, his command of the english language is second to none - well he is a Scot after all!

But like lots of other people, not only in Scotland, but the world over (including I'm glad to see in America as well) I stood up and cheered during Tsunami George's attack on your warmongering, smokescreen making, wholely idiotic and unprepared rightwing senator and government. After all Galloway has won about 20 libel or slander cases in our courts - proving not only how pugnacious he is but also how adroit, your senate is only one in a long and no doubt continuing line.

As Galloway said, with the response given to him after his Washington confrontation. it only proves many people all over the world wanted someone to stand up to the unrestrained, unaccountable and corrupt powers in charge of the world's most weapon-loaded and dangerous nation - and no one had done it until he did. So we cheered him on. It was time someone did it. It's to Blair's shame, and our parliaments shame, that he didn't.

As for the British press laughing at America for falling for it - The Guardian on May 18th said "it was Mr Galloway who emerged with the flesh between his teeth," also "But Mr Galloway Goes To Washington had never really been an exercise in clarifying the facts. It was an exercise in giving Norm Coleman, and, by extension, the Bush administration, a black eye - mere days after the bloody nose that the Respect MP took credit for having given Tony Blair. And it went as well as Mr Galloway could have wished."
The British press, though in general hostile to Galloway (and who wouldn't be when he beats them in court battles regularly and they have to pay out massive damage settlements to him!) do accord him a grudging respect and admiration, even his critics acknowledge he is clever, eloquent and able.
If they were laughing at George's attack on America they were more likely gleeful that he had set his sights on someone else for a change.

There has been so many interesting points made in this thread that I could air my views about them all night - but I better stop before I remember that there are things about Galloway that I've not always liked either - but then there is absolutely nothing I've ever liked about Bush and the neocons.

Thank you for a great site. Keep up the good work.
Donna

Donna: What is a "champagne socialist?"

Robert, a champagne socialist is a sham one - one who may believe in the socialist ethic but who in practice likes to live the champagne lifestyle - fast cars, armani suits etc., etc..

George is a little guilty of that at times, (though he says he bought his fancy car with the money given in a court settlement from Mr Murdoch) and there's some truth in a previous statement that he never was the most hard working MP - quite the reverse in fact, he often didn't attend to his business as he should, if you look at records of attendance.

But I for one think he is by and large honest in the beliefs he claims to support, and it has cost him dearly, for he could have gone far further in politics otherwise; and for bare faced audacity there's no one can touch him! I find that appealing.

I'll probably have to get you to explain some American terminology to me next, so I hope you'll return the favour.
Donna

Hello Donna! Welcome!

Thanks for your very informative, entertaining and interesting posts (#86 & #88!

I love Galloway's style and wish we had even one like him in our Congress or waiting in the wings for the next campaign. We really need somebody who isn't afraid of the bushistas.

This country's on a slippery slope that could lead to any number of oppressive, repressive and Totalitarian models of government, and I'm very worried.

About Comment #82, Am Patriot.
If you think Howard Dean is an imbecile, you must think Bush is a genius. So misunderguided.

To the Amerikan Patriot. Can i throw up on you now to start the day for all the the REAL American Patriots out there. If he had said his speech with a Jamaican accent it still stands as a truthful dissenting point of view to the Bushit Administration lies. You should call yourself Bushit talking defenseman or Bushit legal team impressario. Maybe you can email Bushit legal advisor and Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez for a position to help justify the torture of war detainees because "those bad guys mus be guilty of sumthin" as their excuse.

Ya know, me and my room mates were sitting around talking about American Patriot last night. We were laughing and I was amusing myself with my posts. It was kinda funny. Then I woke up this morning and re-read the posts and I realized that while laughing kinda breaks the tension and the depression - it's not really funny. It's not funny that there are people like American Patriot out there who accept the blindness and bushit that comes by buying into the lies that our govt. is feeding the public.

It's not only not really funny, but it's really kinda scary. I am scared that there are too many people out there who are not willing to see the truth. Nothing I can say will change A.P's mind about what he believes. What is it going to really take to open their eyes and make them see. And will it happen before it is too late.

They call us conspiracy theorists. But we have the proof. They call us liberals, but we are simply resisting against a force that is taking away our basic rights. We aren't here fighting for something like legalizing weed or feeding the poor. We are here fighting for our basic right to a fair election. We are fighting for a govt. that represents the people instead of repressing their freedoms. We are here for freedom of speech, free press, freedom of religion. Don't they see these rights slipping away? Don't they see the that if things keep going in America - we will no longer be the land of the free?

This is like the movie 13 Ghosts. For those of you who haven't seen it - a man collects these 12 REALLY bad ass ghosts to power his machine but you can only see them when you are wearing these special glasses. Other wise you walk around just as happy as a clam. But when you are wearing them - you see 12 of the scariest damn ghosts that I have ever seen. It's kinda like that. They just don't see it/won't see it/can't see it and if they can't see it - they don't believe it. What's it really going to take for Americans to see that the real terrorists - the real bad guys are right here in our country - they are in our government. I love my country - I'm just afraid of my government.

Mr. Galloway's testimony is a part of the official record and will be available at the Government Printing Office. An unofficial version was published by the Federal News Service and is available on Lexis.

The Senate website you've referenced is a hearing announcement. It is completed before the hearing. Mr. Galloway did not submit a written statement prior to the hearing. The hearing announcement is not intended to provide a record of the hearing. For confirmation of this, notice that the third panel is listed on the announcement, but the third panel was cancelled on the day of the hearing, and is thus not a part of the official record.

Then the IMPEACHMENT proceedings can begin. Right!

Last night i caught most of that movie about the modern ice age where all the Americans is the Southern US make a b line for the border and Mexico closes their gates on them. The film had it shortcomings however at one point the president makes a statement "only if we would have know this would have happened." Dude responds "We did Mr. President." My point? The Bushit administration has rolled back or reversed over 400 environmental standards and laws, as well as "The Roadless Rule Law" which Clinton passed to protect 58 million acres of our Wildlands (ie Wild animals) from the destruction of road, traffic and developement associated with their creation. The Bushit Administration chose not to get involved with the Kyoko Treaty to limit pollution contributing to GLOBAL WARMING even though the US is the largest contributor. The Bushits use their money to refute legitimate scientific claims and warnings to push their environmetally destructive agenda to line their pockets. Don't dare ask the mainstream media why Americans don't know the front page truth about politics or real environmental concerns. What the media will do is blast you repeatedly with printed lies or manufactured stories about who some young actor/actress celebrity is getting it on with this week. There is no place for words or testimonies from the Galloways of the world related our environment for this regime.

Hey Grizzly Bear,

With all the neo-theo-con issues we've been addressing on this site and others, I haven't found (or made) time to address you about your environmental issue distress.

I'm just as sickened as you about the wheels of neo-theo-con pocket-padding legislations cutting a wide swath across our delicate and treasured wild lands.

I am distressed that animals are being eradicated right and left. I am an animal person --- I love all our creatures and think it will be a sad world for the children who will inherit this planet, turned to skeletons by the bu$hivicons.

Nothing can be done to help our world until we take care of the Stalinesque control of our votes. The masses won't know about the stealing of We The People's votes until we stop the insidious flow of propaganda (or at least balance it) carried by the media.

We have got to hack away at the root problems rather than spending all our time chopping off branches.

The corporate/WH propaganda controlled Media controls the masses.

We need the power of the Grizzly Bear!

Thanks for your voice & powerful support!

Can I say through this website what a credit most of the posters are on here. AP is what most Brits believe Americans are. We had 18 years of neocons over here and now they are unelectable.Mind you, poodle Blair in't much different, but things are beginning to change. If AP wants to rant let him, after all it is a democracy (well sort of). I for all my failings have a degree in politics from Cardiff University and I know a bullsh*ter when I see one and AP is a 5 star one. 99% of you on here are genuine honest Americans and I salute.At least you only got Bush for a little longer, so I hope all will be well for you in the near future.

3 more years of the Bushit is to BLOODY Frigin long. The Republican Bushit Administration has been trying hard to whitewash the Election issue as mainly a vote card fraud issue through their propaganda and private committees. The multi-hacked Electronic Vote Tampering/Improvised Humanistic Fraud issue which gave George W the fraudulent victory in FL, NM, OH, an NV is about VOTES counted in Secrecy by private companies which gave to Bush without a papertrail. The US Congress and US Federal Courts have not addressed this problem. Based on the last 2 rigged elections accepted by CONGRESS and impotent voting American public (Da People), I would venture to say Guv Shrub of Florida kunt lose in 2008. That 7 more years of more BUSHIT!

3 more years of the Bushit is to BLOODY Frigin long. The Republican Bushit Administration has been trying hard to whitewash the Election issue as mainly a vote card fraud issue through their propaganda and private committees. The multi-hacked Electronic Vote Tampering/Improvised Humanistic Fraud issue which gave George W the fraudulent victory in FL, NM, OH, an NV is about VOTES counted in Secrecy by private companies which gave to Bush without a papertrail. The US Congress and US Federal Courts have not addressed this problem. Based on the last 2 rigged elections accepted by CONGRESS and an impotent voting American public (Da People), I would venture to say Guv Shrub of Florida kunt lose in 2008. That 7 more years of more BUSHIT!

American Patriot #60 - NO, YOU ARE NOT AN AMERICAN PATRIOT!

NOT an American Patriot #60 - GWB speaks with a PHONEY Texas drawl...I prefer the Scottish accent myself (yawn).

Hi, Shadowtwinchaos #92 - I really laughed with you at #85 - but don't worry about "NOT an American Patriot". This person is just another republican fraud, who is deliberately lying and trying to have some fun...at America's expense. People like him/her/them know exactly what they are doing. They just don't care...thus "NOT an AP".

Hi, Shadowtwinchaos #92 - I guess I mean by "don't worry" is that these frauds are in the minority...the majority of Americans do know what's going on and are concerned. The decision on what to do to change things is being worked on...we are all part of the solution...may that happy day arrive soon!

Although you come off as a nice intelligent informed blogger, unfortunately i have to disagree with the statement that a "majority of Americans do know what's going on." The Bushit Administration has gone to great lengths to deceive and confuse the American people through instrumental use of the mass media and deceptively titled Congressional bills which always favor their agenda, big business, or the wealthy. Hats off to people like Brad for having this blog to tell the truth of what's really going on in this country. May these words express that there are many that buy into all this Bushit. ALL OF IT and further believe that all Georgee did that was wrong was attack an Arab Terrorist country on the road to spreading Democracy. We might not be a majority yet but this bioch is going down.

More censorship, this time from Charlie Rose???

Have a look at Charlie Rose's website for the schedule of May 17, 2005:

http://www.charlierose.com/thisweek.shtm

There are schedules and brief descriptions of interviews before and after this date but not for the one of the interview with "George Galloway".

Look at his shop site for recent shows:

http://www.charlierose.com/shop/

You can't buy a video of that same program.

Haven't tried to buy a transcript to see if that's available.

You can watch the entire hearing on the senate website. It is in a Real Player format. Just look closely.

Donna: The nearest equivalent of a "champagne socialist" that we have is a "limousine liberal." Same idea...a person who pleads the case for the poor while enjoying the perquisites of wealth.

I'm a writer who considers himself above-average as a wordsmith. So feel free to ask about idiomatic English, American style ("Amerenglish"?).

Funny thing, you bunch of sycpohants, the source PULLED its claim. Maybe becasue they now know what manyof you were too damn lazy to explore.

#109

Thanks, Robert, for letting me know I can avail myself of your help, and knowing me, I will often so avail. :blush:

Limousine liberal is pretty good too, but to us would carry less condemnation I think. Socialist is much scarier you see, they're the bogey men. I'd say liberal is more our middle way still (so far) though Labour have shifted substantially to the right.

#89

Hi Kira, and thanks for the welcome to your boards.

I'm worried too by the same things, both from what your country is capable of doing to itself (and also to the world) and of what is happening in mine, for we are closely following the loss of civil liberties etc., here already. But with many of your right-wing propagandists coming over to try to get the same foothold here, whether anti-abortionists who bomb clinics lobbying or radio groups who actively promote only pro war rallies wanting to buy airwaves, we must be on our guard too.

I actually liked Blair more than Galloway. I felt Blair had more integrity at one time - even yet I am still inclined to think he knew at the beginning the danger to his reputation in supporting Bush, since he also is very adroit, but, maybe to reign Bush in and get his support on wider issues of terrorism in the world, wrongly, in my view, even with that good aim, felt it best to back him so closely - Oh and on that note, in George Galloway's words, from Guardian, november 2002
"Many have praised Tony Blair for nudging Bush into the thicket of the UN. But the proof of the pudding is in the eating. If the pathway leads to peace, as was no doubt his good intention, he will be a hero. If it turns out that he has merely paved the way to hell, Birnam Wood will have come to Dunsinane - and the Blair project will be at an end."

Galloway does have much to recommend him. He never varied his stance on being anti-privitisation, anti-nuclear, anti-war, anti-western imperialism - he's spoken out, he's marched and demonstrated, he's been arrested and he's been vilified for it, as only two other lefties have been in our press, yet he's never wavered in any of those beliefs since the 1970's. It's a good quality not to change with the wind.

Oh, if I can make one final point about Galloway, I'd like to include a letter in a paper I read recently from a journalist whose two meetings with him, I think, exemplify the two sides of Galloway pretty well.

I don't know this journalist but I do remember well the memorial unveiling since I was there too, and it wasn't widely publicized, few people were interested in the Kurds at that time - even though now it's very convenient for them and for politicians to have 'the gassing of the Kurds' on the tip of the tongue when talking about Iraq - conveniently forgetting that our government helped built a chemical factory in Fallujah unbeknown to our parliament, just as your Rumsfield sold Saddam chemical weapons which enabled him to do the deed - it's stomach turning isn't it.

Anyway, here is this man's letter from the Independent:

"Sir: The last time I met George Galloway, around the time of his expulsion from the Labour Party, he told me: "Tell your New Labour editor to stick his questions up his arse." So I think it's fair to say I don't particularly owe him anything.
But I will say this: I recall, as a young news agency reporter in, I think, 1989 or 1990, reporting on the unveiling of a memorial in a Glasgow park to Kurds massacred by Saddam Hussein's forces. The main speaker at the event passionately condemned Saddam and his treatment of the Kurds, which at that time had received very little publicity. That speaker was George Galloway. He was the only politician there. And not a single newspaper, in Scotland or further afield, used the copy. And it was quite good copy, even though I say so myself.
RAYMOND HAINEY"

He's right, that speech and others Galloway gave, though still as rousing as any Washington one, wasn't aimed at aggrandising his reputation in front of media, but was used to gather support for a cause in which he believed. That liking of his to make sometimes overblown public appearances (like the salutation of Saddam one, or the Washinton one) which he knows will enhance his reputation and bring publicity doesn't mean he isn't sincere in his beliefs.

Shadowtwinchaos #92 -

You are rightly terrified and you are in good company. But we are in a fighting mood and will not relnquish our country without severe conflict.

We love it; and it is OURS.

Red Dragon #97 -

Unfortunately, we have a problem that the "four-year limit" won't eradicate: a totally inscrutable election system. Computers that an anthropoid ape can hack. Election boards that are unabashedly
partisan. Etc., etc., etc.

"Bush 'for a little longer'" is a wet-dream. Without severe electoral modifications, we are stuck with the neo-cons or their clones for the duration (of life on earth).

Slightly OT but what the heck? Evidence has been appearing lately that seems to indicate that Saddam Hussein did not gas the Kurds in Halabja, but was framed for the crime [which appears to have been committed by Iran] ... here's a link which leads to more details

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