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"Reuters: Voting Probs Across Nation, Bizarre Targeting of '2,000 Election Judges' In Chicago"
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Adam
said on 11/5/2014 @ 12:41 am PT...
If the mainstream corporate media had actual integrity, it would bluntly state this fact: Democracy in the United States of America has ended. Outside of the USA, just about everyone in the world knows it. China can justifiably give the finger to any sanctimonious speeches from the United States about democracy. Protesters in Hong Kong don't realize that the situation they're protesting is actually far better than the current one in the United States. RIP US democracy.
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Karen
said on 11/5/2014 @ 4:10 am PT...
Wow, 2000 election judges..seems like in this day and age it wouldn't be hard to figure where calls came from.
Just wondering how politcal parties perform differently in states with unverifiable machines and states with all or mostly all paper ballots with proper auditing. MN seems like a fairly secure election system, with papare ballots, computer counts but automatic hand recounts of randomly selected precincts. We seem to perform differently than other states.
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Bodych
said on 11/5/2014 @ 8:17 am PT...
Anybody know why Oregon was apparently the only state in the union where the election results were pretty much as expected, with zero surprises, zero anomalies, and what appears to be an even stronger "left" tendency today?
Let's see: We had a marijuana measure, to entice the younger crowd to vote. We have mail-in ballots (I know you don't like our mail-in system, Brad, but dammit, it works for us), we had a GMO measure to entice everybody, and we had a pretty good senator who needed to win again.
Now consider this: We had a miserable FAILURE of an ObamaCare web site, we no longer have major progressive radio stations, we had Koch money dumped on us, and we have a re-elected governor (D) in the middle of his own personal scandals.
Yet Oregon voters did not "send a message" by electing cons, criminals, liars, thieves, and nutcases. Why not?
Why are things still normal here, yet the rest of the country seems to feel that Koch leadership and money, climate-change denial, privatization of SS, destruction of ObamaCare, corporate authoritarianism, and on and on and on...are the waves of the future?
With the exception of Oregon, the rest of this doesn't pass the smell test. Not. One. Bit.
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Irwin Mainway
said on 11/5/2014 @ 8:58 am PT...
Ax 12 hours ago: "Jim Allen, spokesman for the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners.... and Cook County Clerk David Orr, who was in charge of suburban county votes outside the city, warned about the large number of mailed-in absentee ballots still to be counted, as well as provisional ballots.
The IL A.G. stated that they cannot be "processed" until 7p.m. Tuesday, never mind when received.
Due to precinct delays some were open later with votes after 7 being considered provisional until being authenticated.
"Allen said the election board had scrambled all day to deal with a rash of no-show judges, the result of what he called "a new dirty trick" in politics."
"According to Allen, some 6,000 judges, "all affiliated with one political party," received robocalls over the weekend telling them they had to attend another training session before Tuesday's election. Because of that, he estimated more than 2,000 judges failed to show up...
Allen said the board dealt with it, as it had 10,000 judges prepared to cover the city's 2,069 precincts....
"It's interference in the election process," said board Chairman Langdon Neal, adding that it would be a felony offense."
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Dredd
said on 11/5/2014 @ 9:07 am PT...
The first thing I though of when I heard that Gov. Brownback (R-Kansas) had been reelected was "gotta go see what Brad and bloggers there think."
There are some mysteries for sure (Oil-Qaeda Wins Big).
Just sayin' ...
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karen
said on 11/5/2014 @ 12:34 pm PT...
the polls were not so far off on general trend of election, Repubs were expected to pick up 7ish seats, but they got more - but the polls were way off on margins, all got it wrong to the left. Seems weird given they could look at 2010 turnout and figure something between that and 2012 and would have gotten demographics pretty right. VA tie race that was supposed to be +7 or +10 and Walkers huge margin in a supposedly close race stand out as really weird to me. Wonder if there is anyway to compare to other states, voting methods etc.
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John Sawyer
said on 11/5/2014 @ 3:08 pm PT...
In addition to non-deliberate screwups in some polling places, I'm guessing that at least some of the screwups are done deliberately in order to discourage some people from voting in the current and future elections. This would include screwups which seem to favor Democrats, so that the scheme looks less partisan than it really is. Also, any poll shenanigans that ostensibly favor Democrats will also rile up the Republican base, increasing their turnout.
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Robin
said on 11/5/2014 @ 4:58 pm PT...
The results here in Ohio are way off Democrats lost big here people in local offices in my county who are very popular lost. Kasich was going to win but 86 of 88 counties? I had to click all my choices at least twice to get it to stay on the Democratic Candidate. Husted, Dewine ect. ect. won by larger than expected margins. I feel sick
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Brad Friedman
said on 11/5/2014 @ 10:17 pm PT...
Karen @ 6:
You may have already seen these but, if not, they may be helpful in response to your comment. They're from Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight today. He describes what happened as "Democratic bias" in the pre-election polls. FWIW, no ink is given to the possibility that election results may be skewed, rather than the many different independent pre-election polls.
In his article concerning a "Democratic skew" in the polls, he notes, as you do, that the polls were off within the margin of error, but that what makes them odd is the fact that almost all of them were off in one direction, rather than the 50/50 red/blue difference that one might expect from margins of error.