READER COMMENTS ON
"DAILY NEWS: 3rd Party Candidates Out-Polled Bush in OH!"
(11 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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winter patriot
said on 11/30/2004 @ 11:58 pm PT...
Kudos to the Daily News for running with this story. More kudos to Brad for writing about it here.
Um... did the Daily News reporters really discover these anomalies all by themselves? I recall reading about all this stuff a few weeks ago --- I think it was on Democratic Underground, although I'm not 100% sure...
Not that it matters. And it's entirely possible that they found these anomalies independently --- surely the numbers are out there for anyone to see. Many of us have already seen them, I would think. But very few of us write for major newspapers.
In any case, it's a Very Good Sign to see the Daily News writing about this issue. Let's keep encouraging them to write more about it.
And now for a short history lesson: It may seem that enormous power is arrayed against us, but then it seemed that way 30 years ago too. The wave of investigative journalism that toppled Richard Nixon was started by a couple of virtually unknown reporters [Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein] who were working for a major daily [The Washington Post]. For quite a while, nobody else would touch the story, except to deny its importance [much like our friend Paul does]. And Woodward and Bernstein seemed to be the only ones digging.
But every now and then, other reporters, from other papers, learned and reported facts which moved the story along... And everything seemed to happen in slow-motion, but eventually it became the sort of story that nobody could ignore. And then even the papers which had been protecting Nixon were compelled to revise their positions. At that point if became a 'safe story' for all the news media in America. And Nixon's days were truly numbered.
Granted, the above is a very superficial treatment of a complex topic. And the political landscape is quite different now than it was then. But for an 'old guy' like me, it sure warms the heart to see a couple of virtually unknown reporters digging away at a potential presidential scandal on behalf of a major daily.
I could write encouraging e-mails to these guys every day for a long time.
[and so could you]
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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janet
said on 12/1/2004 @ 6:47 am PT...
ALMOST too excited for words!!! I remember well the days of Nixon's shame and the two young reporters responsible for GETTING THE TRUTH OUT THERE.
And now, when the lives of perhaps thousands of our young troops are at stake, someone else is willing to STEP UP and shine a light into the darkness.
AND YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!!
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des
said on 12/1/2004 @ 11:25 am PT...
FYI --- include your full name, phone number, and address when writing to the Daily News! notes without that info are deleted.
write early, write often! they DO listen!
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P Gilbert
said on 12/1/2004 @ 3:48 pm PT...
I am a 60 year old grandma and I am mad as he__! Why in the world is there not an outcry against this election? I am not talking about the outcome (although I would have preferred a different one) but WHO in their right mind cannot see that the "numbers" add up to FRAUD. I cannot understand (being an old person) WHY people are not demanding a "paper" assurance of who they vote for. Technology is great , but it is only as good as those who manage it. I truly believe this election was as fraudulent as the last one. WE gave this one away. We call this a democracy? I can no longer trust any election held in this country as being fair and really one that we can all say, "oh well, I don't agree with the outcome but the people have spoken." I will always wonder; did they really?
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Tony Page
said on 12/2/2004 @ 10:26 am PT...
"Perhaps the black voters couldn't stomach Kerry?"
Or what other drivel will the right wing comments consist of? We need to never surrender to these power grabbing quasi-fascist fools and their mouth breathing religious right wack-job synchophants.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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SUSAN STROUSS
said on 12/2/2004 @ 11:35 am PT...
Why are we being patient and quiet? We believed in 2000 that this is part of the process and that we and our country could survive four years of this fraud. We and the world discovered that this was not the case. And so we were quiet.
Not now, never again!
We must take a lesson from the Ukraine voting fraud. Those people marched on their Congress and peacefully said "NO" to the fraud there.
Someone needs to plan the protest here.
A march on Washington, NOW!
My suggestion is every first Tuesday of every month, we protest, WE MARCH ON OUR GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS IN EVERY TOWN AND CITY, PEACEFULLY!, we do not go to work, we do not buy anything, do not use the internet, the phones ect.
We do not buy anything produced in any "RED" state.
Thanks to these reporters! Ones that remember what they are suppose to be. Our search for truth dogs!
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Cole Epstein
said on 12/2/2004 @ 12:23 pm PT...
If there's Fraud in one place, maybe there is Fraud in another place and if there is Fraud there too maybe there is Fraud in lots of places and if there is Fraud in lots of places maybe there is Fraud throughout the state and if there is Fraud throughout the state why not Fraud in lots of states-
How could they resist? Fraud is so easy and so rewarding. And george really needs a victory and all the attention that goes with it.
Cole...
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Cole
said on 12/2/2004 @ 12:28 pm PT...
If there is Fraud in one place, maybe there is Fraud in another place and if there is Fraud there too maybe there is Fraud in many places and if found there too maybe there is Fraud throughout the whole State and if there too maybe there is Fraud in many States? Why not Fraud is so easy and so rewarding too.
And best of all little george needs a victory to cap a long history of failures and he does so need all the attention that goes with it.
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Beth
said on 12/2/2004 @ 2:17 pm PT...
I just wanted to add there is a huge rally planned for this saturday in Ohio!
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Jfern
said on 12/2/2004 @ 2:33 pm PT...
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Cole...
said on 12/3/2004 @ 9:46 am PT...
So little bits of Fraud here and there---let's remember little bits grow up to be big bits!
also, remember the fruits of the 2000 election theft gave seeds for the 2004 election -Fraud or no Fraud-the value of the encumabancy is a hugh advantage, and translates to millions of votes.
It is like the Brink's armored car thieves (unfound) taking their loot and buying up a little company, like Haliburton maybe, and boosting there profit from ill-gotten gains to more ill-gotten gains.