READER COMMENTS ON
"SIBEL EDMONDS: Announcing 'Project Expose MSM'"
(33 Responses so far...)
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karen from illinois
said on 5/27/2009 @ 8:05 am PT...
last thursday rachel reported that gonzoles was the person the cia called to get permission to torture an "enemy combatent",gonzoles was only the presidents council at the time,the reporter had phone records and everything and yet even after proving that 6 times a day in 1 month a flunky lawyer gave permission to torture ,no follow up in the msm(or at least non i have read)
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William R.
said on 5/27/2009 @ 8:25 am PT...
Thanks always to the brave Ms. Edmonds, and to BradBlog too. I don't have any disclosures to make, or any big answers.
But I am becoming increasingly convinced, as are many others, that one major reason for warrantless wiretapping (and the secrecy involved) is in order to not only find out what journalists and congresspersons are doing and who they're talking to, but to find info to blackmail, extort, and threaten them. What else could be the reason for the timidity of the likes of Conyers, Leahy, Pelosi, et al.? (aside from the fact that many Dems are part of the problem...)
I also suspect that the best hope is to create a news network on TV-- like it or not, that's where most people find information, and where the most damage/brainwashing is being done. Who would fund that?
And keep in mind that, if you have an instantaneous reaction to sneer "conspiracy theorist," it's your reaction that is conditioned, not my questioning of accepted boundaries of discourse.
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Phil
said on 5/27/2009 @ 10:25 am PT...
The could be one of the most important moves (hopefully movement) in history.
I suggest folks familiarize with the fcc.gov if your serious about this.
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Gus Wynn
said on 5/27/2009 @ 11:27 am PT...
While I applaud this effort, I think we have to acknowledge that many reporters in the media, publishing, entertainment and even the corporate world have their hands tied by NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS.
This means that reporters or correspondents must obey their bosses and lay off a story when told, for fear or losing their job, lawsuits or other recrimination.
Yesterday I spoke with a senior editor at a major national magazine who told me it's not only the norm in the industry, you simply will not be hired without one, adding that he himself was bound by NDAs he'd signed decades ago when he worked for a major gossip tabloid till the year 2040.
This is no small issue. Just look at the Dan Rather/CBS-Viacom lawsuit where Rather sought to expose illicit White House interference in the network coverage of the Texas Air Guard story. Rather also seeks to expose CBS for knowingly sitting on the Abu Ghraib story, testing the limits of his non-disclosure agreement as it pertains to knowledge of lawbreaking...
So I think there should be a distinction made between reporters and journalists under contract and the corporate execs muzzling them. More at http://bit.ly/DvYY
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Captain Lionel Mandrake
said on 5/27/2009 @ 12:08 pm PT...
"Media Matters" does this same thing quite well—with very little result so far as I have ever been able to see beyond being informative. Too bad. The MSM enrages me with their bland vanity, and and I believe they should, somehow, be held to account. I have turned to the alternative media, what there is of it, for my news... Since "Media Matters" does this very thing, get in touch with them; they have lots of readers...
What otherwise can we do? Let's get "CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM" rolling so that we can own our legislators and so force them to pass the legislation we need (health care, reducing the size of the Military-Industrial-Media-Security Complex, etc. etc.) Also, then we can hold accountable those who have turned against democracy, including the MSM. I believe campaign finance reform is the first priority.
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mick
said on 5/27/2009 @ 12:40 pm PT...
Greetings ,one thing I've noticed is the fact that major stories are not picked up by MSM .An example I'd like to give at the moment is Matthew Alexander, the senior military interrogator for the task force that tracked down Al Qaeda-in-Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.His personal knowledge of the consequences of the use of torture are in direct opposition to what Dick Cheney has been plastering over the MSM of late.Major Matthew Alexander has "standing " on this subject unlike Mr Cheney ,Major Matthew Alexander was a U.S. military interrogator for 14 years and recieved a Bronze Star for leading the team that got the information that led to the capture of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi without using torture. Please see his interview here if you haven't already seen it .From this site Brave New Films
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karen from illinois
said on 5/27/2009 @ 1:19 pm PT...
MADDOW: Ali Soufan testifying about those contractors in the Senate last week. The CIA contractor who wanted to use those methods - Soufan said they included forced nudity, sleep deprivation, loud noise, extreme temperatures. The contractor who wanted to use these techniques had to keep requesting authorization to use them.
And we know that the contractor got that authorization because those techniques were, in fact, used against Abu Zubaydah. They got that authorization to use nudity and sleep deprivation and loud noises and extreme temperatures - they got that authorization months before the Justice Department ever wrote up the torture memos.
So who gave them that authorization? And on what grounds? That is the new revelation. NPR‘s Ari Shapiro reporting on the basis of a source with knowledge of Zubaydah‘s interrogation that, quote, “Nearly every day, contractor James Mitchell would sit at his computer and write a top-secret cable to the CIA‘s counterterrorism center. Each day, Mitchell would request permission to use enhanced interrogation techniques on Zubaydah. The source says the CIA would then forward the request to the White House where White House counsel Alberto Gonzales would sign off on the technique.”
Bombshell. If this is true, if Alberto Gonzales was personally signing off on enhanced interrogation techniques on his own, then the whole idea that there was a legal framework that made these techniques legally OK is sort of a joke.
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GWN
said on 5/27/2009 @ 2:37 pm PT...
#2 William R, I will have to quote Big Dan here. He used to announce forcefully and often
"The REAL NEWS...ONLY ON DISH LINK TV & FSTV CHANNELS 9410 & 9415!!!
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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huh?
said on 5/27/2009 @ 2:46 pm PT...
Did everyone just walk off the stupid boat? What are you talking about when you say MSM? MSM is owned, financed, controlled, staffed, organized, headed, directed, promoted, trained, and ordered by the top US military contractors. Ex....GE owns NBC, Group W owns CBS. Do you think the MCOM's, military corporation owned media, are going to do anything that would jeopardize a single dime of profit? Do you think they will ever allow a candidate that hates the military or war? The MCOM's have their criminal hands in everything the criminal government does. There is a constant revolving door between military, MCOM's, and government. They're one in same.
Who brought you the video of planes crashing on 9-11? The military owned media. Who has made over ONE TRILLION dollars in the extended crimes, bailouts, and war from 9-11? GE for one. They got $250 Billion just is TARP payments. $300 Billion in no-bid reconstruction contracts. $250 Billion in increased military spending. GE was the company that underwrote the “terrorism insurance” on the WTC’s just 6 weeks before 9-11…a first on US soil. It is now estimated that GE money laundered $200 Billion from “separation scams” committed after 9-11. The US is the only dictatorship where the media is owned and profited by the military contractors. At least in China, Cuba, and Russia it is "state run". The US media has the largest MCOM's in the world. They are the only ones that profit directly from war...which only they get to show you through their vetted images.
My point…..stop saying mainstream media. And stop thinking they will ever police themselves or change their behavior to ever make sense. Once the world realizes that there were no commercial planes on 9-11, that the entire war on terror was based on a murderous colluded lie, and that the MCOM’s themselves covered, profited from, and fabricated the entire crime….new laws must be passed that say military can never again own US media. Until then…get ready for more 9-11’s!!
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lottakatz
said on 5/27/2009 @ 2:54 pm PT...
Thank you for your project to document the collaboration of the MSM with the government (and/or) special interests to stifle dissent and withhold information from the public. This is a crucial and facilitating aspect of the lawlessness our government has visited on the country in the last decade and needs to be documented.
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Adam
said on 5/27/2009 @ 3:01 pm PT...
As long as progressive activists are playing "gatekeeper" on each other, nothing is going to move forward. Progressive activists are easily manipulated to snipe at each other. Chomsky says 9/11 truth activists have "such low credibility" and JFK assassination researchers "taking energy away from serious matters." Daily Kos bans voting rights activists as "conspiracy theories."
When we stop sniping at each other about what's is a serious issues and what isn't, we'll all have a lot more energy to move forward.
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keith
said on 5/27/2009 @ 3:11 pm PT...
Ive watched your circumstances for years Ms Edmonds. Ive always had your back and this will be no exception.
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 5/27/2009 @ 4:42 pm PT...
Thank you Sibel!
I have been involved and following Architect San Fran Architect Richard Gage and Former BYU Physics Professor Steven Jones who have risked their lives to stop another 9-11 attack or worse.
Steven Jones lost his position for publishing a peer reviewed paper proving the use high tech military thermate. They have been putting on presentations evidencing how the the 3 World Trade Towers were bombed to the ground. They are asking for a new independent investigation because these people have gotten away with murder.
You can contact them and find out more about their work where accredited architects and engineers can sign a a petition at www.ae911truth.org. Their work has been completely ignored by the US mass media and in fact never played the 6.5-second collapse of WTC Building Seven after the 1st day.
UPDATE: On the other coast, a NY petition has been started asking for a new independent investigation. These people are in a race to produce enough signatures to get it on the next NY ballot.
On a personal note, I have been working on the completion of a music CD with a 15 interview with Richard after the last song.
Thank you,
J. Locker
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kjadud
said on 5/27/2009 @ 5:09 pm PT...
I love your bravery Sibel and have so much respect for you. Please stay off of any small aircraft.
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blubonnet
said on 5/27/2009 @ 8:18 pm PT...
Applause for the beautiful and bright Sibel Edmonds.
I think everyone should watch, and then post the suggestion to watch Orwell Rolls in His Grave all around the internet. Go to Google video, and there are multiple parts. That documentary movie lays it out better than anything else I've seen.
It was warned from Eisenhower, a Republican, for God's sake, who said "Beware the influence of the military industrial complex" and here we have them owning the media. How influential is that? Oddly though, GE, with MSNBC also has Keith Olbermann, and Rachael Maddow, and Ed Schultze, who are the most Liberal out there, so that makes it hard to argue that GE is Conservative. Of course, with the population wising up more and more by way of the internet, the great majority, leaning Left, they have no choice, but to report in that attitude, and it makes it profitable. I agree though, that despite those three, the real stories, like for example the nano-thermite found in mass at GroundZero, and the hundreds having witnessed explosions far beyond the planes hitting, are untouchable stories by MSM. If "journalists" speak of such things, derisive comments and guffaws follow, despite the massive evidence.
Also, Direct TV Sattelite also has LINK TV on channel 375, oddly that is owned by Rupert Murdoch. Most people don't know about those channels though. It's intentional of course.
Thank you, again, Sibel.
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Coleen Rowley
said on 5/27/2009 @ 9:33 pm PT...
This is a good idea if only for history's sake. I've got a story involving "60 Minutes" which I'll get down and out this way.
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Brad Friedman
said on 5/27/2009 @ 10:11 pm PT...
Thanks, Coleen. 60 Minutes. Don't get me started... yeesh...
Looking for to it.
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Dan Hanley
said on 5/27/2009 @ 11:25 pm PT...
Ms Edmonds,
Thank you so very much for your continued courage and tenacity in speaking out regarding the suppression of real newsworthy stories by the corporate-owned and controlled mainstream media.
By virtue of the fact that the mainstream print media is vaporizing into oblivion gives proof that it has given way the power of information interchange in the virtual world of the internet.
God Bless and Protect You!
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Roland Carnaby , KIA
said on 5/27/2009 @ 11:41 pm PT...
Invewstigate what happened to Gary Webb.
He was writing a book with another author
about rour years ago. They were following
the Heroin money (Bush Money, that is.
Apparently, the Bush Crime Syndicate didn't
dig what they were writing.
Both were "suicided", Gary from a double-tap
from a .38 revolver, to the front and side
of his head at the same time.
Follow the Bush money. Bush's have been in the
dope smuggling business since 1880.
Those white, unmarked, "Rendition Planes"
were carrying heroin from Afghanistan all this
time.e
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Walter
said on 5/28/2009 @ 12:57 am PT...
This is awesome. I would like to point out a site that has been doing this for a while now but mainly for the financial industryAntisocial Media
[ed note: Walter, you just highlight the words you want to turn into a link, then hit the link button, then paste in the link, then post. Or, you can just paste the url directly into the comment box. --99]
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farang
said on 5/28/2009 @ 2:00 am PT...
Thank you for your dogged pursuit of the criminals in charge, Sibel. That we had more like you in positions of authority.
I'd just like to say that Mr. Rohter, in my opinion, exposes himself by using the same old tired buzz words, instead of solid examples, to weakly attempt to "refute" the allegations.
These would be, from his reply:
"old and discredited implied accusation" "The conspiracy brigade" "paranoid rant" "individual grievances"
Please DO allow him to give a complete response to the article. Please DO allow him to insert foot into mouth, again.
It is the perfect example of what you are trying to expose.
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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justice4all!
said on 5/28/2009 @ 4:11 am PT...
Here is a HUGE story about a Big Tobacco/Big Insurance Whistleblower that has been brutally suppressed in the U.S. after it was made available to every news outlet in the country!
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Carl Lindsey
said on 5/28/2009 @ 7:12 am PT...
Imagine a media with 10,000 Woodward and Bernstein type reporters.
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Response to Comment #13
said on 5/28/2009 @ 8:01 am PT...
Response to #13:
As long as Jones and Gage continue to demand that you believe there were commercial planes on 9/11...their lives will NOT be in jeopardy. Of course the buildings were brought down by thermite.....THERE WERE NO COMMERCIAL PLANES ON 9/11!!!! A "new investigation' will produce nothing. Why? There is no debris from 9/11. The building debris was taken to a smelting plant purchased by CDI just one year earlier, and located just one hour outside NYC. CDI was the same company that was paid $35 Billion dollars to clean up ground zero. The same company that wrote the NIST report saying there were no explosives. The same company that did the "reinforcement work" at the exact wall of the Pentagon where the "plane" hit on 9/11. The same company that was responsible for destroying and protecting the debris from the OKCity Bombing in 1995. The same company that was seen in and around the WTC's for 2 weeks prior to 9/11..they even gave NPR interviews. This same demolition company, CDI, was inside WTC's 1 and 2 on Sat. Sept 8th and Sun. Sept 9th 2001 during the first ever "powerdown" of the exact floors where the "planes" hit on 9/11.(Powerdowns are essential when capping detonation charges)
There is NO airliner debris from 9/11. There is nothing to test and verify. Your investigation into the fact that there were 4 commercial planes that crashed on 9/11 ends in the first second. There is no evidence to verify the airliners!! Videos, film, photos, and eyewitnesses have NEVER in aviation crash history verified a plane crash. ONLY WRECKAGE DOES. To this day not one single piece of airliner debris from any of the 4 planes has ever been tested, inspected, analyzed, or verified in any way. A new investigation is irrelevant. There were no commercial planes on 9/11. The war on terror and everything from it….is based on a murderous fabricated lie. Again…..
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COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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TheHolyCrow
said on 5/28/2009 @ 10:52 am PT...
Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock
There is no statute of limitations
on the mass murder
In history, or on the clock
tick tock, tick tock, tick tock
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 5/28/2009 @ 5:08 pm PT...
Comment 25: You have looked into this issue. I do not wish to get into a point counterpoint here because I agree with you about the lack of plane wreckage evidence. The burn mark in PA was not a jet crash site because the luggage, engines, wings, etc were not present. The 16 foot hole at the Pentagon that was struck by a 3 story jet in the official story and all video was of course confiscated.
If you go to architects and engineers for 9-11 truth www.ae911truth.org, you would understand that they are calling for a new investigation of the 3 World Trade Tower demolitions based on different levels of evidence.
The way the steel concrete structure fell at near free fall speed with EVERYTHING being completely turned into plumes of smoke and objects no larger than 2 inches with the exception of strune steel at the base. What mechanism can do this? Where is the 100 stories of concrete?
Thermate or cutter charge residues were discovered on the steel. Molten steel that was running like rivers out of all 3 towers melts at 3-4 thousand degrees F. Regular fire or hydrocarbon jet fuel burns at 1200-1300 K thus could not melt the steel.
Lastly, WTT 1 and 2 were non-traditional controlled demolitions. If you watch the video of the 10 second collapse you can see them explode through their roofs like volcanoes.
Steel was hurled into adjacent structures impaling themselved and bone fragments were found on the roof of the Deutch Building 500 feet away. In order for a building to come down into it's footprint, all the columns need to be taken out and you can see squibs or mistimed explosions when you watch the videos. If fire that didn't burn hot enough or long enough melted the steel beams to fatigue it, it would have caused the building to bend or tipe over in a way that did not occur.
Building #7 was a 47 story building not hit by a plane. It fell 7 hours after the others standard controlled demolition.
The lying murderous Bush administration and his New World Odor friends need to go down.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Kevin Knox
said on 5/29/2009 @ 11:18 am PT...
Corporate Oligarchy replaced Democracy years ago because of sellout legislators who got away with it because the MSM is also owned by the Oligarchs who censor, monitor, and control everything going out to practically all media to help keep them in power. If, thru Ms. Edmonds project, we can expose these sellouts who are supppose to be doing the people's work not corporations anyway, and we're allowed to vote in legislators with integrity, then and only then will we have a chance to get our Country back.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Patrick Henry
said on 5/29/2009 @ 11:50 am PT...
The only real Freedom left in America is Freedom to consume.
You voted the shllls owned by the corporate vipers into public office - YOU DID.
Yuo know in your guts that the military industrial comiplex ordered the public execution of JFK and his brother, and JFk's own son,
as a warning to anyone who might try to bring
back any semplace of Freedom in the USA.
It's time for hard core regime change - not limp wristed, whiy 'tea parties'. Remember the 2nd QAmendment is sascred, if you have any hope of saving the 1st Amendment, and any of the rest of your mandated Rights that limit the power of government.
WAKE UP PEOPLE !!!
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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doomdaily
said on 5/31/2009 @ 2:45 pm PT...
DoomDaily.com covers this kind of stuff. get them to put up a banner for you
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NoOneYouKnow
said on 5/31/2009 @ 5:12 pm PT...
Thank you, Sibel. If the Medal of Freedom was still an honorable award, you would be most deserving of it.
I'd also like to know if you've had any contact with the Obama administration about lifting the gag order you're under.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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NoOneYouKnow
said on 5/31/2009 @ 5:16 pm PT...
Forgot to mention: Does anyone else think that Larry Rohter and Steven Strasser might be part of the CIA's "Mighty Wurlitzer"--its program to control the US media by placing its agents in various media outlets? Certainly, Mr. Rohter's impotent, fact-free response to the charges against him suggests he was not acting as a journalist in regard to the events in Bolivia.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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StanTheMan
said on 6/3/2009 @ 2:59 pm PT...
Just a quick comment to the editors of Brad Blog. Hopefully this will not get me banned or blacklisted for writing this...but here goes. This article is about MSM blacking-out media that for whatever reason it did not like, banned, or edited however it wished any information it wanted. There is a previous post in this comment section that says you will ban them if they continue to say something...for whatever reason. I'm sure your reasons are just as valid as the MSM for deleting and banning Ms. Edmonds. You are doing to your posters the exact same thing that the MSM and government are doing to Ms. Edmonds.....you have your laws, codes, rules, and regulations of information dissemination just like the MSM itself. Its all a form of censorship.
My comment is.....alternative media sources like Brad Blog are NO DIFFERENT than any other media that wants to blackout, ban, censor, or delete however it wishes. For the threat of being off topic.....its an article about information that is being banned!!! How much more irony can we fit into this thread?!
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 6/3/2009 @ 3:35 pm PT...
Stan
You don't seem to have read carefully either our rules for commenting or Brad's very polite warning to someone who has repeatedly posted information that has not been deleted or edited. There is a huge difference between banning or editing information by a news outlet and proscribing spamming, personal attacks, incitement to violence and other purely vulgar behaviors on a comments thread.
I would urge you to think a little harder before you post such nonsense.