I don't get it, Brad. I thought you had access to DNC "leaders". What are their answers to you when you bring this stuff up with them?

As noted in the article, Adam (and to quote from David Byrne), same as it ever was.

"We'll have thousands of lawyers on the ground on Election Day, blah, blah, blah."

Of course, I've tried to tell them that by Election Day, the deal is done.

You may have overestimated my "access to DNC 'leaders'". I'd be delighted to offer them more information. I've tried. They don't seem particularly interested. But they know where to find me.

It took 30 seconds to check my voter status with that link. Amazing.

Hey, this is OT, but does anyone know what's going on with the tubes.... Americablog and Eschaton are both pulling up Google... right url's for both, but the Google homepage displays... have they been hacked??? or pulled???

It seems to me that the job devolves on the individual voter. Check to see if you are still registered; if not, demand to know why, and if not immediately restored, threaten suit; if still not restored, BRING SUIT! I'll bet there are a lot of lawyers who'll do it pro bono, and then there's always the ACLU. ALSO, the NEWSPAPERS - holler to the Editor of your local fishwrapper; Public "Servants" HATE exposure when they are doing something illegal or discriminatory.

BH sez,

It took 30 seconds to check my voter status with that link

The GOP can use it to find and vote for the registered non-voter also when they hack into the "tube" that carries that stuff IMO.

Gotta beat back all of those "baby killers" (as said by Connell) don't cha know

Since it appears that at least eight of the nineteen states are traditionally Democratic in the above list,it occurs to me that the Democrats may be purging voter lists themselves in response to the GOP game plan.

If so,the elections taking place from now on will go to the party which is most effective in facilitating voter suppression and election fraud.

Wonderful "democracy" we now have,isn't it?

A little o.t. (well, not if you put it all under "Things that make you want to vomit")

I read somewhere that Treasury Secretary Paulson makes about 735 million a year. That was definitely the most obscene thing I heard THAT day.

Then on Letterman last night his guest was a woman from the World Food Network I think it was, talking about how their goal is knowing that every child on earth has at least a cup of gruel a day.

Those two things together make me want to vomit. Hey, here's a thought..that's HIS fucking cup of gruel. Lap it up, Hank.

Maybe this time, when exit polls show Obama winning handily and Obama loses (in the above scenario), the pollsters, all of them, will not say they made a mistake.

Maybe this time, the real winner will not let this crime stand.

When the Dems took over Congress, one of their first acts should have been to insist on a paper trail for voting machines.

Wilburrr... ~ Check your vote early and Often !

Not just 19 states...20 states, if you count Florida. Certain counties in FL are purging any voter registrations where the name and address are not an exact match to the information listed on the person's state-issued identification or driver's license.

This means if your driver's license says John M. Smith and your voter registration says John Smith or John Michael Smith or anything that varies at all from your driver's license, your voter registration will be purged from the system. If the address on your voter registration is not an exact match to the address on your license, your registration will be purged. Or, just as bad, you'll arrive at your voting precinct and will be handed a provisional ballot which probably won't be counted anyway.

What is wrong with our country? Why are so many people allowing this to happen right under their noses?

COMMENT #9 ronnyg wrote:

"Maybe this time, the real winner will not let this crime stand."

LOL.

If you are suggesting that Walk on Water Obama will be the "real winner," I suspect when the corporate media announce that the "election" (if there is one) is 51% for McCain to 49% for Obama that Obama will rush to the microphone in John Kerry style to give his concession speech and say something to the effect of:

I congratulate my distinguished colleague on this outstanding victory, the great senator and now president [sic] - elect John McCain and vice president [sic] - elect Sarah Palin. We must unite as a nation and stand behind our new president [sic] and vice president [sic]. I will return to the senate and continue reaching across the aisle (to help McCain and Palin accomplish most of their goals just as I have done for the Bush regime) and I call on this nation to now have a healing. (There always has to be a "healing.") I call on all of my supporters to now warmly welcome and rally and stand behind John McCain and Sarah Palin. This is a great time in our nation. A great time for hope and change and I'm sure that McCain and Palin will do an outstanding job in their new positions. And I will be at the ready should they need any assistance from me. I have spoken with Joe Biden and he feels just as I do. Let us now rally behind this nation's new 'leaders.' God bless America. Good night."

Nauseating isn't it? Yes, that's very close to what we will likely hear. More bull shit and no one called on anything. Pretend it's all legitimate, fair and honest. End of story.

"When the Dems took over Congress, one of their first acts should have been to insist on a paper trail for voting machines."

Yeah right. I'm convinced that the Dems (most of them) don't give a fuk about any of this stuff. They don't care whether they win anything or not otherwise they would behave very differently than they do. Most of them act as if they have had a lobotomy. They are quite comfortable simply serving as enablers (the salary is the same with full health coverage) whether it be Bush enablers or McCain enablers (if that man is allowed to reside in the White Houe). There are reams and reams of stuff that the Dems "could have done" and should have done (and their delusional wishful-thinking kool-aid drinking supporters were expecting them to do following 2006). I wasn't. I wasn't expecting a damn thing to change with them in the majority and nothing has changed for the positive. In hindsight, I'm rather convinced the Dems were allowed to become the majority because the Bush regime knew that the Dems posed absolutely no threat to them and their agenda. The Bush regime knew and/or were assured that the Dems would continue enabling the Bush regime, as they have done. And will continue to do. Look at what they have done with their majority status. No positive "leadership" on their part whatsoever. The real 'leaders' have been the Repugs, as usual, and the "majority Dems" follow along because the Dem$' agenda is the same as the Repug$' agenda. One-party system charading as two.

ronnyg ~ When the Dems took over Congress, one of their first acts should have been to insist on a paper trail for voting machines.

Hand counted paper ballots. ~ HCPB

RonnyG said:

When the Dems took over Congress, one of their first acts should have been to insist on a paper trail for voting machines.

A "paper trail" for voting machines is useless. Nothing less than a hand-marked paper ballot is needed, for every vote cast in America. Period.

Erma

I don't think you ever pipe up with a comment of your own. It's always picking out something from another commenter and dissing them as deluded in a voice many people find shaming. That is a form of personal attack and we don't want to put up with it. There are other ways you can make your points without casting about for people to insult.

You make valuable contributions here, but free-floating derogation of your fellows is not one of them. Please find another way to impart the information you feel is important.

COMMENT #14 Brad Friedman wrote:

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A "paper trail" for voting machines is useless. Nothing less than a hand-marked paper ballot is needed, for every vote cast in America. Period.
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Absolutely. And mark the ballot with a PEN, not a pencil. Why don't you like pencils, Erma? What do you have against pencils? A pencil mark can be erased by somebody other than the person who voted.

ronnyg wrote:

"When the Dems took over Congress, one of their first acts should have been to insist on a paper trail for voting machines."

One of their FIRST acts---aside from impeachment proceedings---should have been to vigilantly work at immediately getting rid of ALL of these damnable, easily-hackable, corrupt, fraudulent electronic machines across the nation. But the Dems were not about to do that, because they have encouraged them (except for Debra Bowen here in CA).

brad: your comment "they don't seem interested" reminds me of greg palast writing the same thing regarding his efforts to get information to the gore campaign in 2000. is the scope of this beyond their limited ability to process information? are they resigned to elections being won or lost on these terms because of the liklihood that whites will be a statiscal plurality in a few decades and fair elections will just be completely off the table then anyway?

COMMENT #15 Agent 99 wrote:

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Erma

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I take it you did not read my original thought comment about Obama’s concession speech in my comment (#12). Yes, that was my original. That was my own. So once again, you are wrong.

I still don’t understand why you are even on this blog. You cannot seem to comprehend anything anybody writes. All you are good at is complaining about other people’s comments. Why don’t you just worry about yourself and your own comments. Let me tell you, I could pick the hell out of most of yours but I feel that we are all sort of "on the same page" here so why bother?!

Try worrying about yourself and not me. And pay more attention to my message and not the mesenger.

What you are accusing me of doing is exactly what Brad did in his comment #14 to RonnyG? What I do in some of my comments is no different whatsoever than what Brad did in that comment (he corrected someone just as I correct others on occasion) And Brad has done the same thing in his other comments over time. I know because I've read them. So it seems that it's perfectly fine for Brad to do that because it's his blog?...but it's not acceptable for me to do that because it's termed a "personal attack" when Erma does it? Hmmmmm? That’s a double standard, and that’s being polite. As for correcting others, other people correct me on occasion. That’s the way a good message board works.

If you want to improve Bradblog.com, REMOVE yourself from this blog and it will improve. That's a guarantee.

What "many people find shaming?" You can only speak for yourself and for Brad, and not "many people." And to begin with, there are not "many people" on here. It's a very. very small group.

The basic problem in many states undergoing voter purges just before an election is that the local (city or county) registrars of voters are free to act upon their own volition and the state boards of elections (or secretaries of state) are either (1) unaware of the purges, (2) encourage the purges (or) don't care.

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COMMENT #9 ronnyg wrote:

"Maybe this time, the real winner will not let this crime stand."

LOL.

The comment you cite is a perfect example of what I mean. You just read through the comments and pick out somebody to quote and laugh or sigh at and proceed to tell them all about how deluded they are. You could make your points about all of us deluded people without singling people out for your ire... picking fights. You could even address people personally to interact with them and it would be fine if it were not always to put them down as set-ups for your crusade for Ralph, or whatever is your thing-of-the-moment....

Anyway, I guess you heard me, and so you know you've been warned.

Brad, I think the DNC's fear is that if they make too much of a fuss about voting machines, that will make their supporters think that their vote won't be counted and will cause them not to bother to vote --- don't you think? That they're not just hiding their heads in the sand?

"Capital must protect itself in every possible manner by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages must be foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through a process of law, the common people lose their homes they will become more docile and more easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of government, applied by a central power of wealth under control of leading financiers. This truth is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of Capital to govern the world. By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished." USA Banker's Magazine, August 25 1924"

The Democrats don't want this examined too closely because it will bring more attention to the exploding scandal of ACORN and its subsidiaries using federal funds to run an enormous nationwide electoral fraud campaign which is designed to register voters illegally and register nonexistent voters with the objective of disrupting the voter registration system to the point where it becomes impossible for registrars to actually police the voter rolls in any meaningful way.

The use of caging lists is legal in most states and is far less destructive of the electoral process than the activities of ACORN.

Dave
www.republicofdave.com

My advice to voters who feel they have been purged wrongly from voting and they won't let you vote: raise hell. Yell, cause a scene, get the cops called. Don't hurt anyone, but seriously, make a scene and get the media to notice you. The more people who make a scene, the less likely this is to be ignored. In 2004 everyone slinked quietly away, don't do that this year. Yell your head off if they have taken you off the voter rolls. Don't leave until they let you vote. GET MAD. This BS has to stop or we will be a full-fledged dictatorship by 2009. Raise hell, and don't be apologetic about it. Stealing your ability to vote is a crime.

Caging lists are a CRIME, DAVE.
Stop believing this right-wing crap and fight for your right to vote.

BREAK THE MACHINES If I was a voter in one of these states where they pull this crap and I couldn't vote
then no one else would vote either. I would go home and come back with vengeance and a HAMMER

Thanks for the link! Just checked, and I feel much better now. It's like that old civil rights song "We Shall Not Be Moved" but with new lyrics:

We Shall Not Be Purged!!

Cheryl

except the people most likely to be purged are the ones who aren't going to read about it on the computer or suspect they need to check before election day.

I bet that right wing churches are all advising their congregations to check their voting status - if not doing it for them and their extended like-minded family, friends and neighbors.

everyone seems to forget that conservatives have their own news distribution system - outside of mainstream 'filters'.

don't just check your own registration. check everyone you know too. chances are the ones who are dropped are your 80 and 90 yr old aunt and uncle that still believe the daily paper reports everything they need to know - or your hairstylist single mom that's working 2 jobs and doesn't have the time or funds to read this stuff on the internet.

So what is worse, purging voter registrations which may have been the handiwork of ACORN and their affiliated groups, or allowing illegals, the dead, felons that lost their right to vote, or blatantly fraudulent names to skew the election? Think I am a bit off base?

I was in one of the states that had a caucus and participated in the caucus process. Check out http://www.wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/ for a documentary on the fraud that the Democrats permitted to happen during the primaries. Then you might understand why I would prefer each state's election officials to stringently apply their election law to all registered voters. The actions of the Democratic leadership made me sick.

Each fraud is wrong and should be prevented, whether it is the ballot stuffing of the Democrats or the registration purging of the Republicans. Follow the rules and laws people - NO EXCUSES!

1) If my grandmother checks her status and finds she's not registered, what is her first step to get her registration restored? I'm not clear on the steps one should take.

2) Is anybody talking about class-action lawsuits against the elections officials?

Steve B: "Since it appears that at least eight of the nineteen states are traditionally Democratic in the above list,it occurs to me that the Democrats may be purging voter lists themselves in response to the GOP game plan.
If so,the elections taking place from now on will go to the party which is most effective in facilitating voter suppression and election fraud..."

I'm told it could be that the Secretaries of State, whatever the party, are beholden to the voting supply companies such as ES&S, who contribute to their Association. The NM Secretary of State's (a 'Democrat') registered voter list is in the repository of the private company ES&S. NM's February 2008 Democratic Presidential Preference Caucus poll lists were derived from ES&S. During that Caucus, 17,000 people ended up voting by provisional ballot, many of them because these lists generated by ES&S were faulty, whether by accident or design. I was a validly registered voter, I had my official copy of my registration with me at the polling place, I showed it to the poll workers, but because I was mysteriously gone from the poll list I had to vote by provisional ballot. Voter registration databases should NOT be privatized!