These people are organized crime.

This is so overwhelming, yet the MSM ignores it. This is so much bigger than Watergate (which was horrible). The whole Bush administration is like a mud wrestling match --- enough dirt to go around on all topics.

Add in the whole torture memo, and assault on the constitution, and it is beyond even a dedicated conspiracy theorist's imagination.

It's hard to keep track of who's who though.
Like Hopsickers latest piece, these people change positions, open new and dummy Corporations as often as we change underwear, one in his latest piece even had the balls to name one the 'Shell Corporation'

Link

Hey guys I wrote to the guy who wrote the fliping software read what I wrote below. Any way He needs our help and cash because he is running for Fl Senate seat His name is Clint Curtis any way read on...

Here is the source code. It is a reproduction of the prototype but it will still show functionally what the code did. Once finished into a full program it would then be installed on the voting machine (or if an outside hack - would replace the existing software).

You will need VB5 to play with it and Access 97 to open the database. You do not need access in order to have the program run. Once it is fully installed VB5 would not be needed either.

Clint

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: the only way for you to win!!!
> From: "ACM International"
> Date: Tue, April 08, 2008 7:19 am
> To:
>
> If you really want to win and make a change for the better please, please make public on the brad blog the vote flipping software, make it known in the bloggosphere, let the real hackers do the havoc and the mischief, if you publish it then everyone will know how to flip votes, sit back and watch the fun begin when oscar the grouch gets elected because someone did a hack. do it... give away the flipping software.

You would think some news organization could at least call Siegelman a conspiracy theorist to save their own butt while getting the story out there. Time is running out for the 2008 election.

Siegelman is just one more American hero who will be invisible until organizations like MoveOn, PFAW, ACLU, and all the other usual suspects STOP ignoring the most important story of our times. The danger of wholesale, undetectable election theft.

I'm thinking the DLC will be the first to help us out here. Bill Richardson could help too. He wrote an eloquent letter about democracy and ballots not too long ago that I delivered to my governors office.

Dan Abrams' credibility is now on the line. His last interview with Siegelman was gatekeeping101. Hopefully, he just had a bad day. Beware of the bait and switch.

If the media wants to ignore the hacking of elections, I would think a score of zero across the board for all candidates in the electronic vote tabulation results would get their attention.

And my understanding is you can't really do a recount on electronically submitted and tabulated votes, right? I'm curious: has any county or precinct implemented separate paper receipts/trails?

- Tom

This guy is a crook.
I live in Al.
You best research his criminal
charges before you put too much
faith in this good 'ole boy!

Mike

They've been stealing elections for 8+ years thru electronic voting machines. These things need to be BANNED immediately.

This is the real reason why politicians don't care at all about the overwhelming anger of the electorate. In other words, even the illusion of "democracy" is shattered.

Not to mention the media is completely bought off. The were involved in 9/11 and the coverup of said.

http://patriotsquestion911.com

The NWO would have never been able to pull it off without media complicity. The evidence is all over the net. Specifically on Youtube. Check out "September Clues"

TomR, we vote on paper ballots here in San Diego, but recounts are unaffordable. Even if we could afford a recount, if the election officials don't want to allow one, we have to sue them and that can take years. But even if we got a recount and were able to prove with the paper ballots that the election was electronically stolen, only Congress itself can unseat a Member once they're sworn in, and they aren't very likely to do that. They also don't want to "go there" and they usually dismiss evidence of election fraud without looking at it.

But your first suggestion makes sense. If there was an election boycott they might try to pad the poll books with phony signatures to make it look as if as many people had voted as the machines produced "votes" for (that has been done), but it is much easier to prove the signatures are phony. Again, since the courts, the media, and Congress don't care, the proof is useless. They have the final say and we don't.

Think about it. Article 5, Section 1 of the Constitution says that Congress itself is the sole judge of the elections, returns, and qualification of its Members. Theoretically they could swear somebody in without an election even having been held, and then "judge" that the person had been elected. And only Congress can unseat a Member once they're sworn in. We cannot impeach or recall Members of Congress, we just have to wait for the next rigged election and try to vote them out. (Ha!)

With Presidential races it is even worse. Our Constitution does not allow us to vote directly for President or Vice-President. Supposedly we can vote for electors, but THEIR names are not on the ballot and many of them are appointed rather than elected. In Bush v. Gore 2000 the Supreme Court said that we have no federal Constitutional right to vote for electors, so it is up to the States. But even so, Congress can refuse to accept electoral college votes if it wants and the Supreme Court can still intervene, nullify an election, and install whomever they wish, as they did in 2000.

If elections could change anything, they'd be illegal. Don't vote --- it only encourages 'em.

--Mark

Well like I have been saying for at least 5 years now, there is only ONE way this crap is ever going to stop and that is with a full blown VIOLENT citizen uprising of at least 75-100 Million damn angry and not going to take anymore patriots.

All the peaceful protest, millions of Emails, confrontations, petitions, etc mean absolutely nothing to these people.
They now see that the vast majority of the American citizenry are hopeless, ignorant, easily fooled wimps with all the fight & chutzpah of a bowl of jello.
They know we are going to do nothing so they are going to continue to do whatever they damn well please.
Future elections will continue to be stolen, future laws and bills will continue to be fascist manifesto's and the fascist corporate media will continue to be complicit and cover it up.
The so called democrats are equally as guilty so stop pretending that some democrat in shining armor is going to save us all from ourselves.

So either WTFU American or just accept the fact that we are now a fascist nation run by treasonous war criminals that only work for the top 2%. That for some reason I am not sure of is hell bent on total destruction of this country.

Meanwhile as we all sit here contemplating on whom to "email" a shame on you letter or where the next totally non violent "protest" of a few 1000 people will be, they are laughing all the way to WWIII and getting ready to attack Iran where of course China & Russia and probably several others will back them.

If it weren't for my mother which is 91 and refuses to leave then my wife & I would have already left this country years ago.
I am truly embarrassed to be called American anymore. We all deserve exactly what's coming.

#10

there is only ONE way this crap is ever going to stop and that is with a full blown VIOLENT citizen uprising of at least 75-100 Million damn angry and not going to take anymore patriots.

Violence is not the answer. It only will give the ptb's the excuse to implement a total police state.

#7

This guy is a crook.
I live in Al.
You best research his criminal
charges before you put too much
faith in this good 'ole boy!

Mike

This person wouldn't happen to be buddies with Karl Rove?

Rove Named in Alabama Controversy

Now Karl Rove, the President's top political strategist, has been implicated in the controversy. A longtime Republican lawyer in Alabama swears she heard a top G.O.P. operative in the state say that Rove "had spoken with the Department of Justice" about "pursuing" Siegelman, with help from two of Alabama's U.S. attorneys.

How many mainstream conservatives have dared to point out what is obvious to anyone having a brain bigger than a chimp's? Who'll arrest the perpetrators in this adminisitration and military complex? Public opinion would at least remove them from office, absent their tampering with electronic voting machines and/or declaring martial law.

More deeply thinking people know that Bush "won" his re-election through electronic voting machines, as there was no way in hell that those INSIDE perpetrators of September 11th would have risked NOT RETAINING CONTROL after such a bold, risk-taking move.

Electronic voting machines invite voter fraud by both Left and Right--we’ve taken the idea “fairness” to a new low in the West, which new low I express by amending an old saying: ‘All is fair in love and war and politics.’

What the computer scientists have missed is this: voting tabulations are altered remotely, using a hidden transceiver within each critically located machine (critical states).

It wasn't until I saw this video on You Tube that ALL the madness made sense to me....this video is a real eye opener....there is a 2 hour video OR it has been broken down into 12-13 parts so you can watch on your time....

PLEASE...watch this video on You Tube...called

The Esoteric Agenda

Once you see that everything makes sense....we are kidnapped by very evil men and woman and we must change our ways to release ourselves from this evil....

God BLESS us ALL...we are the AWAKENED ONES

#10 I agree. It's much too late for pussy footing around.

I lived in Alabama during the Seigelman Administration. I knew I would be leaving in a few years, so I did not pay too much attention. In Birmingham (Scrushy's hometown) the controversy over Scrushy and his own high-handed antics were the talk of the town. Seigelman was vilified by the holier-than-thou for supporting "gambling", but it was pretty clear the level of politics in Alabama was about anything other than what the State really needed. It was all about character assassination.

"Violence is not the answer. It only will give the ptb's the excuse to implement a total police state."

Ummm we are IN a Police State already, the ONLY thing that will ever change this is 10s of Millions of damn angry patriots taking back this country from the nut jobs that have absconded with it.
If you think for 1 second that 'peaceful" protest will make ANY difference whatsoever with these criminals then you are in a dream world.
they could absolutely not care less.

Whack em up side the head with a bat and I bet you will get their undivided attention.
Burn down Faux Noise and make sure they cant even make a cell phone call anymore and I bet the MSM will straighten right up over night.

It is WAY past time for peaceful anything as these criminals have absolute control of every avenue of regress of grievances.
We are ruled by a ONE party system of treasonous war criminals that have the Supreme Court, All of Congress and the MSM all working for them.

They literally laugh at peaceful protest.

America was not founded by peaceful protest, as a matter of fact NOTHING was ever really accomplished solely through peaceful protest even MLK & Gandhi both accomplished nothing but getting the word out and attaining loyal followers.
It was only when BOTH were assassinated and VIOLENT riots ensued is when things got changed.

Sad as it is, violence is the ONLY answer at this point.
Sooner we get past this "non-violence" BS the better off we will be.

What do you think these nut bags are going to do if 100 Million damn mad & armed patriots stand up and take this country back?

send in 150,000 Blackwater freaks? LOL they would be mowed over in 24 hours.

cointelpro

I had a son disappear in 1998 in Georgia and then he was said to have died in Baldwin County, Alabama. It took several years to even get police reports from there. I was told I'd have to "hire an attorney and get a subpoena."

It was ridiculous, because those were public records. Someone else was representing himself as sheriff, named John Garner. I later found out the sheriff was named Johnson.

When I finally got the autopsy report several years later, the body had descriptions that did not match my son's body.

They didn't tell the truth then, the A.B.I. passed the buck around and I have all of the names and notes recorded.

While my son was being "suicided" in Alabama, I was living in the future Republican Governor Sonny Perdue's county of Houston, Georgia being intimidated, harassed, and arrested by Georgia police. It's as though they didn't want me to attend my child's funeral or burial services, and made sure I was unable to attend by using the "justice system," and "law enforcement."

For a period of 39 days I survived news of a dead child, three jails, committal, and his death, funeral, burial spanning three states, I've wondered how I survived Georgia and got out of their traps, although I still have nightmares. All of the false charges against me were thrown out of court, which proves the arrests were used to trash and intimidate, and keep me from attending services for my son.
http://a-loon.blogspot.c...s-in-baldwin-county.html

And yes, I was put in shackles and handcuffs. It must be a Republican trend in their torture tactics. Before living in Georgia I had one speeding ticket in my life, going 10 miles over the speed limit.

All of it's connected to Baldwin County, Alabama. They don't tell the truth there. And they haven't told the truth in Georgia, either.

The Republicans took over those states about the same time. And Baldwin County is Republican.

The only thing I have been able to figure is that the court system, and police are either very ignorant marionettes, or they're involved in criminal activities with high level politicians and organized criminals intermixed.

It's a horrible thing to lose a child, but much of it began with the death of another girl in North Carolina when I was a political cartoonist. Strangely my son disappeared and died with very similar circumstances. Maybe there's really a "Dixie Mafia," tied in with the Boss Hoggs of the South, afterall.

Maybe the politicians needed some new blood and recruited Canary down South for his Republican "businessman" skills.

This is interesting. If you go to the Dan Abrams site on MSNBC and look at the "Bush League Justice" section which has covered the story of Don Siegelman you'll notice his name is spelled wrong on all of the video links. They spell it Siegalman.

This may be a minor mistake, but it doesn't make research any easier, does it? Of course they don't have the huge staff and funding Brad does here.

I should have left the Dan Abrams link above. Here it is along with links to the other programs and newspapers Siegelman tried persuading to cover his stolen election.

Dan Abrams (There's a little box close to the top of the page that says "EMAIL VERDICT WITH DAN ABRAMS")

60 minutes (At the bottom of the page, it says CBSNews.com with a link that says "contact us")

LA Times (I've chosen "national" as the feedback type, but I'm not sure that's the best one.)

Washington Post (There's a link that says "ombudsman@washingtonpost.com you can click on)

Socrates calls Nunyabiz cointelpro here on this thread plus Nunyabiz and Agent 99 made it to Sucrates aka Scobby Doo forum . Read what he says about you both ....

Joined: 11 May 2007
Posts: 790

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: A Catharsis?

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Let's face it. Something went down with the unofficial wrh forum and this fricken thread was right in the thick of it. The fundamental question is do paid spook trolls exist or not? Are we to believe that all the trolls are the stereotype of an asocial person in the basement with cheetos dribbling on their shirts?

At BradBlog today someone named Nunyabiz advocated violence as a means to social change. He also said, to paraphrase, that civil disobedience means squat. I didn't know what to say. Agent99 gives me a deja vu feeling with Tinoire. I just left one word cointelpro. It feels like walking on eggshells there.
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Now why can he not disagree with a poster without calling them paid shrills or cointelpro ?
What is SUCRATES agenda ? Does he work for Israel ? How does one spend 24 hours on the internet and place so many posters from so many forums/blogs into certain groups with not a shred of evidance ?
Why cant a poster say what they want to around this wacko ?
I want to talk about throwing out all the machines but if I do I am called something I am not !
I think SUCKRATES is cointelpro and a paid shrill to stiffel free speach !!!!

P.S.
Tinoire is the moderator for Progressive Independant forum where Socrates was banned by her for doing this name calling and labeling at that forum ! He also made threats to her and that forum on his site .
This is what he does to all sites . Who is he paid by ?
Why does he attack if he disagrees ? What about free speach ? His agenda is his paycheck maybe ?

"The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion"

PROTOCOL No. 12

5. If already now we have contrived to possess ourselves of the minds of the GOY communities to such an extent the they all come near looking upon the events of the world through the colored glasses of those spectacles we are setting astride their noses; if already now there is not a single State where there exist for us any barriers to admittance into what GOY stupidity calls State secrets: what will our positions be then, when we shall be acknowledged supreme lords of the world in the person of our king of all the world....

Its just a myth... its just a myth... its just a myth... its just a myth...

Redender, please refrain from calling other commenters names. See the RULES FOR COMMENTING AT BRAD BLOG.

Nunyabiz, I know it feels good to blow off steam, but advocating violence on Brad Blog is way not okay.

Please, people, I don't want to have to moderate your comments, but if this keeps up, I will.

I am sorry Agent 99. But it is hard to have a discussion when if one poster disagrees then they are called names and it is posted all over the internet. Even though I hate violence I will defend someones right to having to express thier frustration by comdoning violence. It is hard to sit back and watch a country die. So sometimes people feel so frustrated that they think that violence is the only way left to change things.
I do not agree with Nunyabiz but I understand where that poster is coming from after every petition/protest etc I can see why someone would feel that way. I would like to trow out all the machines and put people to work counting the votes again . But that will not happen and that is why they are not scared of the people anymore so yes it is frustrating. Being called cointelpro or paid shrill is also frustrating because it takes away the right to free speach. Sorry again I will try to mind my manners.

Thanks.

Thanks Redender. Best to just ignore "Socrates" I think.

I am not "for" Violence per se` however I am also not an idiot and I know when to take the blinders off and smell the bacon.

I have signed every petition out there that is for Impeachment of these criminals, I have protested in several large organized protest the last one of which was in Washington DC Sept 25th 05' where there were at least 350,000 MINIMUM of us there. Briefly CSPAN covered it and said it appeared to be 500,000+, CNN mentioned us ONCE and said 600,000 after that the only mention was a couple of print media articles that said the police said there were "maybe 100,000 or less" and then proceeded to downplay everything and completely forgotten within 24 hours.
BTW I along with several others were sprayed with "Tularemia bacterium" for our "patriotism" there, I was sick as hell for about 6-7 weeks.
8 other people in just the bus I went there in were also sick. Take a wild guess where that Tularemia came from.
I was interviewed by Mark Benjamin from Salon.com and he said he had spoken to quite a few others that had symptoms. I personally called the CDC myself and was given nothing but a BS run around.
Even though Salon.com paid for the test to be done I found it almost impossible to be tested for it where I live and as you can see from this article which is what the MSM spewed about it is a complete LIE because there were really lots of us infected, could have been 1000s for all I know because it would have seemed to most like a VERY bad flu.
http://www.washingtonpos.../01/AR2005100101209.html

Same goes for every other large protest I have seen such as Feb 15th I believe it was and I think that was 2003 in NYC with well over 500,000 there and something like 2 MILLION protesting in London and an estimated 15 Million world wide making it a world record massive protest with Bush literally the most HATED individual in human history. What was covered in our MSM here?
To my knowledge ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

I protested around the local Federal courthouse here where I live just 2 weeks ago, nothing in the local paper or news.
There are several city councils across the country that have passed Impeachment resolutions, even some state legislatures.
At least 60% of the country wants Bush/Cheney impeached and that mind you is even with a total Media blackout of any & all information concerning Election fraud, War Crimes, Crimes against humanity and don't even get me started about the FACT that 9/11 was clearly orchestrated by some Neofascist faction of this government. There have been 3 Citizens World Tribunals one consisting of 11 nations which have found Bush/Cheney and others GUILTY of War crimes & crimes against humanity.
What do you hear about in the MSM, unless you are online and know where to look ( like Bradblog) or lets face it as ignorant Americans even give a crap to bother looking then you would have no idea, because you hear nothing of it.

The Media is flat out LYING to all of us and they are going to continue to do so because there are no consequences, same with Congress.
All these people know that Bush/Cheney the various Neofascist and top 2% are lying treasonous war criminals.
They literally laugh at peaceful protest and could not care less, we are used as experiments to see how aerosolized bacterium can be dispersed to infect the populace, we are used as chattel, we are drained of every penny to be used for their fascist empire building & their Christian Dominionist insanity of world domination.

Anyone that believes these lunatics can be taken out of power through peaceful means or pretend democracy (rigged voting) is seriously delusional.
We have the same chance of doing that as the German people would have protesting Hitler back in the 30s.

Do I "WANT" violence? Hell NO! If I did I would be like them, it is the LAST thing I or any sane human being would want.

But I defy anybody here to come up with a better alternative and say it with a straight face.
There comes a time when you just have to face facts and personally I just don't see any other viable alternative.

I would like nothing better than to see 10s of Millions of Americans in the streets peacefully protesting, refusing to buy anything except food, turning off the TV completely and stop listening to the lying ass media and take away their broadcasting license on PUBLIC AIRWAVES!

Sadly I have a greater chance of winning the Power ball lottery twice in a row than that ever happening.

I am just being realistic and facing facts, sooner or later all of us will hopefully it wont be too late when you do.

The person above forgot to give the link.

A Catharsis

That's from a ten page thread with plenty of info on the "Joos did it" crowd.

I want to thank the others for making it so easy for the reader to decide. They have done as much for my credibility as all the accumulated evidence.

here's that link:
A Catharsis

Also, here's a website called Third World Traveler with book excerpts and other info on Cointelpro.

COINTELPRO in the 90s

excerpted from the book
WAR AT HOME
by Brian Glick

COINTELPRO:
The Untold American Story

a google search for dan gans brings up the following:

Nearly five years later, the specter of the 2002 Alabama gubernatorial election lives on.

Republican Bob Riley edged out a narrow victory over incumbent Democrat Don Siegelman, but a midnight vote recount in Baldwin County, giving Riley the edge, stirred a firestorm controversy that still receives national attention to this day.   

A recent New York Times editorial called into question “suspicious vote tabulations” that may have occurred at the Sheriff’s department in Bay Minette – the county seat - shortly after 11 p.m., the eve of election day, Nov. 5, 2002.

And, Time Magazine published an article entitled "Rove Linked to Prosecution of Ex-Alabama Governor" by Adam Zagorin which touched on a controversial computer glitch: "Though Republican Riley…initially found himself behind by several thousand votes, he had pulled ahead at the last minute when disputed ballots were tallied in his favor."

more here (don't know if the URL is soing to come thru, but...):
http://baldwincountynow....9fbb5bd2a7f444039407.txt

so there was some mainstream coverage, at least...

dt

I don't see people having much choice either Nunyabiz unless Obama is elected. Unfortunately I don't think "they" will allow him to be elected.
My fear, and prediction, is that there will be NO election. Pat Buchanan said on Sunday that there is a 50/50 chance bush will attack Iran in October. Only the second time I believe Buchanan.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." JFK

Unfortunately many people believe that this kind of corruption of justice is simply business as usual in Alabama. After a century and more of justice for whites and injustice for blacks you can see how the system can morph into supplying injustice for both. The mechanism is the same just the victims are different.

What happened in Alabama is part of a bigger scheme. Consider the following which, in essence, was forwarded to the Judiciary Committee on 04/14/2008:

Governor Siegleman is definitely on to something. I have been tracking developments in the Justice department since September 2001 and have accumulated an abundance of information corroborating the theory that under the Bush Administration, the Justice Department has assumed the purely partisan role of furthering the agenda of the GOP, which is hidden between the lines of the GOP Contract with America. Moreover, election tampering has become a trend among Republican's whose theme appears to be "rule by any means necessary."

Because of the research that I have done, written about and spoken about, while sharing same with members of this administration, I too - a mere citizen with overzealous curiosity, a D.C. law degree and hometown law license - have been targeted by this administration along with numerous other (1) democrats being prosecuted for corruption, (2) liberals being set up for internet pornography stings, (3) Blacks being framed for gun crimes and (4) all groups listed above being persecuted for "voter fraud," while the GOP be overlooked with respect to same.

Fortunately, I was saved "by the bell" - AOL telling me that an attempt had been made to frame me with a Trojan Horse virus during the course of a Federal Sting Operation. The GOP Hacker obviously knew that there was a sting operation going on; but didnt' know that this "mark" was out of town and had no access to her internet account accept to check email messages.

At any rate, I fully empathize with the Governor and who knows how many others who unlike me got caught in the wide reaching net. There is no doubt in my mind that there is a broad and long term strategy to institute a system of Justice in keeping with the concept of the "new world order" wherein, the only people entitled to civil rights, will be (Just)Us - one reactionary right wing party.

I write about this because I am afraid and concerned for me, mine and everyone I know who is being censored by any means necessary, during this modern day Inquisition. I am but one blade in the grass and yet, I am quite vocal about the results of my research since September 2001 and thus, I have become enough of a threat to the "powers that obviously be" that someone privy to Justice Department plans for a sting operation, would literally attempt to frame me for a crime. Now, that's scary!

I especially fear for my son who is growing up in a world where the police, prosecutors, and right wing judges have already pre-determined his fate. Meanwhile right wing 501(c)(4) interests groups, continue to lobby for lawmakers and legislation, who and which will pass the litmus test of eroding the constitution and criminalizing anyone other than "Just US" - meaning those who seek to stack the legislature, the courts, the prosecutors office and the police departments to administer Injustice for many but not all.

It comes as no surprise that the GOP would resort to any means necessary to defame a Democratic Governor. After all "they wanted the Governor's seat."

Nunyabiz ,I do understand what you are saying especially after what you went through just for protesting. That is horrible being sprayed with that stuff. Now do the rest of the posters here understand why Nunyabiz said what he/she did ?
I recieved another email petition today regarding the senate voting about paper ballots on the 15th of this month ,well a while back I found out that any petition has to be signed in person other wise it is considered trash mail !
So really what can we do ? We are watching our country die and we are watching people here being starved to death just like the Palastianians are .
It seems they like a slow death at this point but I think that will change.\
Someone here said that Obama will change things but I hear him say he pledges to the same ones that all the rest are pledging to .So I dont think any of them will change one thing.
So yes the question is just what does have to happen to save not just us but the world ?
Thanks Agent 99 for your understanding .

I am sorry but I do not think there is one bit of differance between the rethugs and the democraps at this point. Just look at how the saviors (democraps) like Nancy took impeachment off the table or how Ted wants to impament the NAU .
They all are working for someone else not us the people ! So really just listen to them all they all say they will attack Iran . They all say the same tripe . If we are going to change things it will not be through any of them. THEY ARE NOT WORRKING FOR US THE PEOPLE !
Obama ,Clinton or McCain will not save this country they are all part and parcel of its destruction .
It is up to us the people to do something what I dont know because to many still think one of them is really still working for us. To all of them we are just sheeple and cannon fodder.

I would hope that fact is pretty clear to anyone these days.
I could not care less what democrats "say" as much as what they "do" and what the majority of them do is full blown Reich wing crap.
They can not possibly believe that their constituents want ANY of the things they are doing.
What they are doing is solely for themselves & the top 2% along with the Neofascist.

The main difference between Obama/Clinton Vs McCain is that the democrats have to LIE more in order to fool the idiots voting for them whereas McCain can be as utterly insane as he wants because his base is stark raving mad.

I vote for the best candidate and always have and the ONLY candidate I could possibly vote for this time around is Cynthia McKinney.

McKinney for President and Nader for VP

http://www.runcynthiarun.org/

It is a crying shame that so many in this country are too stupid to care what is happening in their name.
Americans need to wake up and start voting GREEN, RIGHT NOW!

http://www.allthingscynthiamckinney.com/node/321

Great video of what a REAL Presidential Candidate sounds like.

http://video.google.com/...95503686093693&hl=en

RESIST the fascists in whatever way you have to whereever you are.

But live to resist again.

And again.

RESIST!!!