I want 'em treated like they treat their prisoners (electro-gonad massage therapy)

And there is a growing list of professional architects, engineers, college professiors, military, and aircraft pilot types who are of the same opinion. Read about it here and here.

Another two first-responders have died of 9/11-related lung cancer....

Bush and Cheney have put a base full of black helicopters in my nose! I can't talk long because they'll fly out of my nose and haul me away to Gitmo (where the sun shines brightly all the time)! Anyway, I've found that if you wrap your house with tinfoil Bush and Cheney can't read your minds! It's too late for me because of the black helicoptors in my nose but it's not too late for the rest of you!

It's Treason. Treason to start a war, treason to end democracy, treason to leave you and me starving in the streets after peak oil.

I think we 'aught to cut their heads off and put them on stakes in the White House lawn.

Anyone who doubts that it was treason I implore you to find a video of a 757 hitting the Pentagon, maybe some bodies in PA.

71,302-77,852--> Iraq body count

The courts are beginning to voice their mistrust of the admin too:

A federal judge struck down parts of the revised USA Patriot Act on Thursday, saying investigators must have a court's approval before they can order Internet providers to turn over records without telling customers.

U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero said the government orders must be subject to meaningful judicial review and that the recently rewritten Patriot Act "offends the fundamental constitutional principles of checks and balances and separation of powers."

(HuffPo).

Ho hum. If you polled Americans on whether Congress should investigate what the Administration had for breakfast, you'd probably get the same results.

http://www.911myths.com/
http://www.debunking911.com/
http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/home

This makes for some extremely good listening.

Richard Gage is the man!

And don't forget the scientists who don't buy the story either. A fellow named Enrico at Winter Patriot summed up the reason most "active deniers" can't see their ass from a hole in the Pentagon...

"I admit that on their own, each of the clues doesn’t add up to much: orange rivulets of burning hot liquid seeping from the structure, poofs of air prior to collapse, complete disintegration of the structure, the sheared off top of the building failing to adhere to the law of conservation of motion… etc etc. The thing is together they do form a picture. I can’t imagine how appallingly bad these people must be at jigsaws, leave out one piece and they’d be there till doomsday trying to figure out what the picture was."

You know the type...you deal with them all the time here, don't you?

This picture right here is to me the hardest thing for the "scaredies" to explain. Explain it three times, please. Might I then add that the NIST report only explains the event leading up to the collapse, they do not explain the collapse itself. Nor did they do an alternative hypothesis regarding the use of explosives.

I cry bullshit from the tallest steel-framed building. I would also like to see a mid-term vote for the presidency, every two years, so that the installment and the removal of the president is guaranteed by the people, not a plutocracy.

Thank you for stating this Bradblog Brad. FEDERAL World Trade Tower Building #7 is bush's blowjob. While there are 100's of errors and omissions to the official 9/11 congressional record, A couple important observations must be noted.

1. NO ARABS OR PLANES WERE INVOLVED IN THE CONTROLLED DEMOLITION OF BUILDING #7. Instead of putting out a small controllable fire on 1 of the floors, the 47 story skyscraper surrounded by firemen and policemen gave a 30 second countdown. 6 seconds later the building was turned to dust.

2. The corporate mass media has backed the treasonous cheney administration story from day 1 and anyone in popular culture intelligently questioning this official arab patsy story has been labeled a conspiracy nut. The Popular Mechanics yellow journalism version is a good example of a total bushit piece written by criminals who have had everything to gain playing the terror card.

3. This is not the 1st state sponsored attack, in fact there have been many examples of false flag war games staged over the years, many times to justify an invasion or start a war. A few examples, Hilter's stage a false flag attack as an excuse to attack Poland in WWII. The US staged war games in the Gulf of Tompkin used to justify the US military escalation into Vietnam. A Joint Chief of Staff state sponsored false flag attack plan called Operation Northwoods was set to fly as an excuse for a "retaliation" attack against Cuba until President Kennedy shot it down. It is also common for the military to be running "battle exercises" at the time of the said attack because the aliby fits like OJ's glove.

4. Marvin bush brother of president GW bush was a former chairman on the board of the security company for the World Trade Towers. You have to have entry to plant bombs for a controlled demolition and it is safe to assume that easy access was granted for the controlled demolition experts who wire the 3 towers.

5. A government issued version of thermite called thermate used to cut the iron supports can be seen dripping down the side of a tower. While most evidence was immediately collected and sent overseas instead of investigated, there is some evidence of thermate collected from the site of building #7. Ask yourself this, if the building was evacuated hours earlier, why would the evidense be confiscated and send overseas instead of performing a forensic investigation? BECAUSE IT WAS PART OF THE COVER UP.

6. The media was tipped off about the planned demolition of #7. In fact there are 2 British news video accounts explaining how another World Trade Tower has fallen with 1 problem. The frigin building did fall yet and you can see it still standing in the backround moments before it was "pulled."

7. #7 owner, Larry Sliverstein like cheney and bush have never faced indictment. Interestingly enough he made a statement on TV along the lines that since there was such a loss of life on this day that we decided to pull the building. In the biz the term "pulled" is used for taking a building down controlled demolition.

8. While these bush administration criminals did not have to testify before congress, Rumsfeld was being lobbed a bunch of softballs by Republican controlled congress he testified. Then Cynthia McKinney asked him what happened to the 1 Trillion dollars that went missing the day before. The treasonous bastard squirmed and made faces but of course they found a way of getting rid of the 1 congressman who was really interested in 9/11 truth by fixing an electronic election.

9. They can take their shrub missile that hit the Pentagon and shove it up their executive privileged ace but an important part of "we the people" taking back OUR country is putting these lying treasonous mass murderers and their anti-environmental agenda into world court for orchestrating 9/11.

10. WHY? For people who cannot get why these greedy inbred oil baron parasites would carry out this despicable crime to their own people, here it is: To consolidate executive power, shred and weaken the constitutional form of government to the brink of crisis, and give the military industrial complex a blank check to attack Iraq FOR THE OIL. This would also allow for the continued erosion of American rights and liberties as well as open the door for surveilance of the American people. The fear and terror will be used as a mass media tool endlessly to increase their fascist (corporate) grip.

IMPEACH AND JAIL THE CHENEY ADMINISTRATION

Unfortunately GBD, our legislators are not of the same persuasion. I sent Nancy Pelosi an e-mail, fax, phone call to put impeachment on the agenda - it's not even on the radar! I would like a non-partisan probe into 9/11 AND IMPEACHMENT!!!!

Flo - Nuthin like a lil E.G.M.T. to start off the day right . . .

#13 Adjunct - ... that or Dredd's rusty bear trap . . .

Let us count the COINTELPRO agents shall we?

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]... Tony said on 9/6/2007 @ 1:08 pm PT...
Uses the "they are obviously crazy" to define 51% of the American people, hmmmm

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]... Perry Logan said on 9/6/2007 @ 2:26 pm PT...
Drops three absurd websites that use voodoo to describe physics. Nice one

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]... Dredd said on 9/6/2007 @ 2:03 pm PT...
Not an agent, but c'mon man catch up...THEY ARE KILLING THOUSANDS THEN COVERING IT UP

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]... Mugzi said on 9/6/2007 @ 5:43 pm PT...

Please start researching the Council on Foreign Affairs, Dick Cheney and Nancy Pelosi are hardcore members. Pelosi has already received over 100,000 letters and will not impeach as is her responsibility under the constitution. She is just as much a traitor.

Anyway guys if you would like to know how so much evidence could be covered up for 6 years, take a look at a few of the conflicts of interest in our media conglomerates that provide you with everything you read, hear, and see.

HEY!!!!!! I think we need a bunch of those little blue T's on this story. They're sooooo cute.

99-
Orange on 9/11?

I have already exhausted all my fellow inhabitants of bumfucknowhere with the orange gig. The piggy little squirrels who come to be hand fed at the beach are even tired of it. It looks awful on me, and it's not getting me anywhere. But I also have convinced a mover-and-shaker believer in the official conspiracy theory that Conservation of Momentum trumps Occam's Razor, and he will be attending Gage's lecture at the Grand Lake on the 11th. Wish I could go.

Last year I spent 9/11 transcribing first responders' statements, and for the first time since the day I could finally cry. I cried my way through the entire fifth anniversary, and I'm going to spend my whole day of the sixth anniversary helping to turn the Zogby poll into a tsunami... even if I have to do it one person at a time.

If you haven't listened to the Guns and Butter Gage interview I linked above, I implore you to get to it now. Here it is again.

Or, here is his two-hour lecture video to which they refer on in the Guns and Butter interview. Bodhisattva.

Looks like after the last 5 major news marketing plans we may not have that much time guys before the AEI/Cheney/Thompson connection has their way with us. {Fixed link. --99}

I mean what kind of country do we live in when we allow GE/Murdoch/AOL to run full blown terror propaganda campaigns.

Bin Laden to Address the American People on 9/11.

Why does this corpse get $billions in free marketing?

Is it to force NY into lockdawn so that the truth can be firther supressed?

Dude, where's my country?

I think the Patriot Act makes it illegal to run terrorist propaganda to influence policy. Can we send Murdoch to Gitmo?

CORRECTED LINK: Bin Laden to Address America on 9/11/2007
http://forum.prisonplane...m/index.php?topic=5013.0

Does that mean we are supposed to get some chips and cheese dip?

Occam's Razor states "all things being equal..." well these events certainly are equals, adding to the overwhelming coincidence of three steel framed buildings collapsing in most peculiar ways for the first time in history. The fact that these buildings were blown, is of course the simplest answer. Not the pseudo science of "progressive collapse" or "pancake". Can anyone even calculate the probability of this happening so perfectly? Placing blame on certain individuals however does lead some away. What if after a grand jury and the release of classified material, we find out that yes, the buildings were demolished, but the culprits are not who anyone expected them to be?

I think it was the "B's" as well as the "C", as most people do. But I also wonder who's collar they wear. For all I know, it was ordered by the CEO of Exxon, or the PM of Israel. Thus the need for a brand new impartial investigation. If I was given the chance to be president, I would spill the whole can of beans on live TV. You only live once (maybe) and to take such a secret with you is an abomination of humanity.

btw Agent I know what you mean... when I first put the 2+2 together and it made 4, I cried for three days straight, I did not eat for a week, I contemplated suicide. Then I got MAD. Most people cannot handle the mental paradigm shift, that's why we get the "Fuck you traitors!" or last night's "you must get your marching orders from Al-Qaeda" bull crap. Get over it... the real truth is painful.

What does Occam's Razor tell you about the ODDS that NORAD would be running a series of drills on the morning of 9/11 designed specifically to simulate an attack against America involving hijacked planes flown into buildings?

What does Occam's Razor tell you about FEMA having been prepositioned in New York for the drill - which commenced at the same moment the first tower was struck?

What does Occam's Razor tell you about the warning sent to Israeli Nationals two hours before the first plane struck?

Ignoring everything you have seen and heard to brainwash you to the contrary in its aftermath, what are the odds that a man in a cave could beat all of the defenses of the United States of America by coincidentally timing his attack to coincide with a total shut down of NORAD?

Occam's razor states that the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating, or "shaving off", those that make no difference in the observable predictions of the explanatory hypothesis or theory.

Pieces of aircraft were scattered over a five mile area in Pennsylvania.

WTC 7 - though untouched by an aircraft, fell directly into its own footprint less than two hours after its owner ordered the fire department to pull back from the structure in order to "pull it."

5 Israeli Mossad Agents with explosives expertise were arrested for filming the destruction of the twin towers. Their film has never been made public. They failed seven polygraph tests. They were quietly deported to Israel.

Norm Mineta testified before the 9/11 Commission that he personally witnessed Cheney commanding one of his subordinates in the bunker on the morning of 9/11 to allow the approaching aircraft to strike the Pentagon uncontested.

The manuvers made by the planes that struck both the Pentagon and the second WTC tower could not possibly have been made by any first time pilot - according to aviation experts.

O C C A M ' S

R A Z O R

I N D E E D ! ! !

Where are the NSA Spy Satellite photos of the "757" striking the Pentagon?

Where is the video that was shot by the Dancing Israelis arrested on 9/11?

Where is the flight manifest including Arab names on any of the flights on 9/11?

Two planes hit two buildings in New York, yet three buildings fell down straight into their own footprint.

A man said by his flight instructor not to be able to fly at all performed a perfect 270 degree corkscrew descent over the heavily fortified Pentagon as Cheney ordered the stand down of air defenses (per Norm Mineta) - and struck the target with military precision (according to the FAA controllers watching it all on their radar screens).

Where are the radar videos of that flight?
Where are the videos of that 757?
Where are the satellite images of that plane?

O C C A M ' S

R A Z O R

I N D E E D ! ! !

HOW IS THE WAR IN IRAQ TIED TO 9/11 AND HALLIBURTON’S ASBESTOS LIABILITY?

ASK DICK FUCKING CHENEY THE QUESTION!

BUSH ORDERED THE LIE…

PEOPLE ARE DYING:

LEVELS OF ASBESTOS

A statement about discovery of asbestos at higher than safe levels in dust samples from lower Manhattan was changed to state that "samples confirm previous reports that ambient air quality meets OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Administration) standards and consequently is not a cause for public concern."

Language in an EPA draft stating that asbestos levels in some areas were three times higher than national standards was changed to "slightly above the 1 percent trigger for defining asbestos material."

This sentence was added to a Sept. 16 news release: "Our tests show that it is safe for New Yorkers to go back to work in New York's financial district." It replaced a statement that initial monitors failed to turn up dangerous samples.

A warning on the importance of safely handling ground zero cleanup, due to lead and asbestos exposure, was changed to say that some contaminants had been noted downtown but "the general public should be very reassured by initial sampling."

http://www.commondreams..../headlines03/0823-03.htm

COLLEGE STUDENTS DYING FROM INHALED ASBESTOS:

http://www.bupipedream.c...play_article.php?id=3259

ALL SO HALLIBURTON COULD REMOVE THE WTC ASBESTOS LIABILITY FROM ITS BOOKS:

The WTC was a $15 billion HALLIBURTON liability.

HALLIBURTON HAD ACQUIRED DRESSER TO SAVE THE BUSH FAMILY FROM THE LOSING POSITION IT WAS STUCK IN…all because of the pending Asbestos law suits:

GW included the issue in his State of the Union speech in 2005.

"To make our economy stronger and more competitive, America must reward, not punish, the efforts and dreams of entrepreneurs. Small business is the path of advancement, especially for women and minorities, so we must free small businesses from needless regulation and protect honest job-creators from junk lawsuits. (Applause.) Justice is distorted, and our economy is held back by irresponsible class-actions and frivolous asbestos claims --- and I urge Congress to pass legal reforms this year."

Well, Pat, it was a little different with me. The deal with me is that crying is sort of mid-range emotional reaction for me... usually. I'm actually getting stronger when I start crying. The thing that burst my dam was being brought to ground zero by that testimony. I was experiencing it just as though I'd been there with these people. It wasn't a fantastic visual on tv anymore. My eyes and nose and mouth and lungs were caked with that toxic dust. The blast of heat from the explosions blew me into a wall. I was gripping others who were emerging from the rubble alive. It was seriously intense. If you want to read any of it, here it is.

Halliburton's receipt of all the no-bid contracts was direct quid pro quo - highly illegal.

When Cheney was the CEO, he acquired Dresser to save the Bush Family's ass. Dresser made Asbestos, and the liability law suits were going to wipe them out. Cheney took one for the team when he acquired Dresser and all its asbestos liability claims (HAL was punished in the stock market)...the biggest of which was the WORLD TRADE CENTER, a $15 billion albatross that the Port Authority was hard pressed to get rid of.

When the Port Authority unloaded the buildings onto Silverstein, the fix was already in. Cheney literally ran the entire operation on 9/11 (as witnessed by Mineta) and used Dov Zakheim's SYSPLAN technology to guide the CONVERTED FUEL TANKERS to their targets (remember the huge fireball that exploded OUTSIDE the building?).

It was Cheney who instructed Christine Todd Whitman to lie about the levels of asbestos at ground zero, because he didn't want people to make the connection that the entire operation was simply arson on a grand scale, which eliminated a $15 billion liability from Halliburton's books.

You see, the World Trade Towers were not the real estate plum we are led to believe. From an economic standpoint, the trade center --- subsidized since its inception by the NY Port Authority --- has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. How could Silverstein Group have been ignorant of this?

The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements, most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built. It was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due the known asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings.

The projected cost to disassemble the towers: $15 Billion. Just the scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!

In other words, the Twin Towers were condemned structures. How convenient that an unexpected "terrorist" attack demolished the buildings completely.

WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same insurance policy. This 47-story steel-framed structure, which was NOT struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day into its own footprint at freefall speed - exactly in the manner of the Twin Towers.

THE PLANE THAT WAS SHOT DOWN IN PENNSYLVANIA WAS DESIGNATED SPECIFICALLY TO TAKE OUT BUILDING 7.

COULD IT BE ANY MORE OBVIOUS?

ASK RUDY. ASK DAVID ROCKEFELLER. ASK GHW BUSH.

When you view any video of the plane striking the second WTC Tower, isn’t it astounding how huge the fireball is that results? How much jet fuel was that…really?

Remember the big Boeing Tanker lease scandal that arose just prior to 9/11?

Dov Zakheim, called for "some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor" being necessary to foster the frame of mind needed for the American public to support a war in the Middle East that would politically and culturally reshape the region. A respected and established voice in the intelligence community, his views were eagerly accepted, and Dov went from his position at Systems Planning Corporation to become the Comptroller of the Pentagon in May 2001. Perhaps not so coincidentally, it was an SPC subsidiary, TRIDATA CORPORATION, that oversaw the investigation after the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in 1993.

SPC, according to their official website, specializes in many areas of defense technology production and manufacture, including a system developed by their Radar Physics Group called the Flight Termination System, or FTS. This is a system used to destroy target drones (craft that would be fired on by test aircraft or weaponry) in the event of malfunction or "misses". This highly sophisticated war-game technology allows the control of several 'drones' from a remote location, on varying frequencies, and has a range of several hundred miles. This technology can be used on many different types of aircraft, including large passenger jets.

According to the SPC website, a recent customer at that time was Eglin AFB, located in Florida. Eglin is very near another Air Force base in Florida-MacDill AFB, where Dov Zakheim contracted to send at least 32 Boeing 767 aircraft, as part of the Boeing /Pentagon tanker lease agreement.

The Boeing lease deal involved the replacement of the aging KC-135 tanker fleet with these smaller, more efficient Boeing 767s that were to be leased by Dov Zakheim's group. The planes were to be refitted with refueling equipment, including lines and nozzle assemblies.

http://www.thetruthseeke...o.uk/article.asp?ID=2775

Seems like maybe Ace has heard the old Occam's Razor canard before!

Missing Trillions
Rumsfeld Buries Admission of Missing 2+ Trillion Dollars in 9/10/01 Press Conference

On September 10, 2001, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld held a press conference to disclose that over $2,000,000,000,000 in Pentagon funds could not be accounted for. Rumsfeld stated: "According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions."

Such a disclosure normally would have sparked a huge scandal. However, the commencement of the attack on New York City and Washington in the morning would assure that the story remained buried. To the trillions already missing from the coffers, an obedient Congress terrorized by anthrax attacks would add billions more in appropriations to fight the "War on Terror."

The Comptroller of the Pentagon at the time of the attack was Dov Zakheim, who was appointed in May of 2001. Before becoming the Pentagon's money-manager, he was an executive at System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor specializing in electronic warfare technologies including remote-controlled aircraft systems. Zakheim is a member of the Project for a New American Century and participated in the creation of its 2000 position paper Rebuilding America's Defenses which called for "a New Pearl Harbor."

http://911research.wtc7....et/sept11/trillions.html

Dov Zakheim stole more than $2 TRILLION from you and offshored it to Israel - enough to fund this entire coup and create Eretz Israel.

The incident that cannot be explained away.

"The Dancing Israelis"

http://killtown.blogspot...ing-israelis-on-911.html

http://www.antichristcon...tained_Sept_11_Spies.htm

http://www.bigmagic.com/...es/blackj/column100.html

http://www.forward.com/i...2002/02.03.15/news2.html

http://www.thejewishweek...scontent.php3?artid=5303

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/forget.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/onl...1/12/WTC_Mysteries3.html

http://www.whatreallyhap...ed.com/fiveisraelis.html

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j062402.html.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/sears.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/onl...02/06/Israel/spies7.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/onl...e/02/03/Tampa050302.html

http://www.fpp.co.uk/onl...02/01/WTC_Israelis5.html

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0206/S00133.htm

http://www.911-strike.com/dea-il-spy.htm

http://www.antiwar.com/israeli-files.php

http://www.haaretzdaily....html?itemNo=162902&c

http://atlanta.creativel...2-03-20/fishwrapper.html

http://www.newsmax.com/a...s/2002/1/16/110443.shtml

http://www.informationcl...use.info/article5133.htm

http://www.washingtonpos...rticle&node=&con

http://www.haaretzdaily....html?itemNo=77744&co

http://www.antiwar.com/rep/lemonde1.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/...world/europe/2294487.stm

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j072602.html

http://www.crimelynx.com/dozens.html

http://www.informationcl...use.info/article7545.htm

http://www.whatreallyhap...reportisraelispying.html

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm

http://killtown.blogspot...ing-israelis-on-911.html

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7127

http://www.informationcl...se.info/article11385.htm

http://www.timesherald.c...;dept_id=33380&rfi=6

http://www.selvesandothe...int.php?id_article=13772

http://observer.guardian...744960,00.html?gusrc=rss

Plunger has the entire truth laid out, in context, right here:

http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com

ACE, MELLOW THE FUCK OUT!!!!

Nobody's going to want to read this thread with all that. I let your three million links through, but give it a rest.

Ace is pissed! On another note... I wonder how much internal damage could be caused by a box cutter. I can understand slashing the carotid artery would cause almost instant death, but causing damage to vital organs would be a trick. Out of all these passengers, how many could have had martial arts experience? I know some of the pilots were former military. A pen, a dinner knife, a laptop could be a weapon as well. Speaking for myself, and no disrespect to the parties involved, I could not sit and watch people being stabbed and do nothing, with threat of bomb or not. This has bothered me since day one. Letting them access to the cockpit after this would be unthinkable.

Pat, I don't think half of those guys were even on the planes, and those who were would have thought they were actors playing terrorists in a drill. Nobody got stabbed to death. The planes were simply switched to remote control, and.... But for sure at least half the people on a plane with hijackers, now, would turn them into hamburger before letting them take the plane... no matter how many people they stabbed.

Yes, that's what I was getting at. The whole story is unconceivable to me. Occam strikes again.

Press Release

Professors Make Legal Challenges to NIST 9/11 World Trade Centre Report

Be calm and quiet and let the aviation experts speak:

"The government story they handed us about 9/11 is total B.S. plain and simple." … Wittenberg convincingly argued there was absolutely no possibility that Flight 77 could have "descended 7,000 feet in two minutes, all the while performing a steep 270 degree banked turn before crashing into the Pentagon's first floor wall without touching the lawn."…

"For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand," said Wittenberg, recalling that when he made the jump from Boeing 727's to the highly sophisticated computerized characteristics of the 737's through 767's it took him considerable time to feel comfortable flying."

(Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force – Former Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Retired commercial airline pilot for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years, flying Boeing 707, 720, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, and 777 ’s. Had previously flown the actual two United Airlines airplanes that were hijacked on 9/11 (Flight 93, which impacted in Pennsylvania, and Flight 175, the second plane to hit the WTC)).

Be calm and quiet and let the engineering experts speak:

SAN FRANCISCO, CA July 16, 2007 --- San Francisco architect Richard Gage, AIA, founder of the group, 'Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth,' announced today the statement of support from J. Marx Ayres, former member of the California Seismic Safety Commission and former member of the National Institute of Sciences Building Safety Council.

“We are proud to have the support of Marx Ayres, a nationally recognized expert in building energy systems and earthquake damage to building nonstructural systems, in our search for the truth about the events of 9/11.”, said Mr. Gage. “He has signed our petition requesting a reinvestigation of those tragic events and he has now gone even further by providing his personal statement of support for a new investigation of 9/11.”

Mr. Ayres is a nationally recognized expert in building air conditioning design and analysis, energy conservation, thermal energy storage, commissioning of HVAC systems, and earthquake damage to building mechanical systems, with over 55 years of experience. Co-founder of one of the largest building engineering firms in Los Angeles, Mr. Ayres has been in responsible charge of the design of hundreds of major building projects, including high rise offices, commercial centers, hospitals and laboratories, hotels and residential buildings, universities and colleges, schools, theaters and entertainment centers, jails and correctional facilities, TV and sound studios, governmental buildings and industrial facilities.

In his statement, Mr. Ayres wrote, “I support the work of Dr. Steven Jones. He has provided a scientific foundation for the collapse of the three World Trade Center (WTC) towers. I read the FEMA September, 2002 report, prepared by the American Society of Civil Engineers, and initially accepted their theory of the collapse of WTC 1 and 2. As more information became available on the web, I was motivated to research the subject in a more rigorous manner. I have carefully studied the Jones 2006 paper, “Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Completely Collapse?” and concluded that it is a rational step-by-step study that meets the accepted standards for scientific building research. His critical reviews of the FEMA, NIST, and 9/11 Commission reports are correct.”

(Richard Gage, AIA). There are HUNDREDS, and HUNDREDS, and HUNDREDS of professionals who think that the official administration conspiracy theory that the bushies' commission forced on America is bunk ... or worse.

So, 120 million people are crazy, huh??? I'd be SCARED, if I were in on the coverup of 9/11!!!

This thread should pass the 100+ mark...

I mean 168 million Americans.

...and this Bin Laden video that they're telling us in ADVANCE that's coming out...what a crock of shit THAT is!!!

comment 12: the majority in congress are either neo-con fascist robots that have given their undivided support to the criminals cheney administration and 1%er democrap enabler that most people assume have a different agenda but their congressional votes prove otherwise.

Pelosi and co. have proven to be the biggest blowhard enabler doormats for the cheney administration that history will show they are part of the cheney regime of total manipulation of our system of checks and balances.

2 other points: Cheney gave the orders of NORAD to stand down. An executive directive passed 1 yr prior said moving forward all fighers must wait for the command of the pres, v-pres, or then sec of defense Rumsfeld in the event of a mainland attack. Our #1 air defense was out that day because cheney gave the order. Previously, no order would have been required for military fighter to shoot down an attacking enemy aircraft. It would have taken minutes to get in the air but during a 4-6 hour attack that DID NOT HAPPEN.

As many know a new executive order gives bush complete dictatorial powers without having to answer to congress in the event of another 9/11 attack. So watch these dangerous lying treasonous mutherfckers because they are very desperate to write their version of history since congress and the corporate media who's interests they serve are in their back pocket.

Some of the most important FACTS and editorials relating to the 9/11 attacks are at
http://tvnewslies.org
(Click 9/11 Facts on the menu).

A vital article regarding the refusal of most Americans to even question the lies of the official report can be found here:

The Final Holdout: 9/11

51% will not get any ones attention....in order to get Congressional interest it needs to be at about 98%..and then you will have to hit Pelosi, Reid and Conyers over the head with a sledge hammer to get them to take a second look....I am sorry to be so cynical..but I suspect that the Demcrats are just the other side of a single coin...

btw: I posted this on Crooks & Liars...AND THEY DELETED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brad Blog gets a "diamond", and Crooks & Liars gets a lump of "coal"!

FACT:

Crooks & Liars doesn't want their readers to know that a Zogby poll said 51% Want Congressional Probe into 9/11 Actions by Bush and Cheney!

Crooks & Liars is a suspicious site, in my book.

Brad Blog once again, uncensored/unfiltered news...THANKS BRAD!!!!!!!!!!

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I volunteer the sledgehammer and the manpower, I'll even drive to DC.

Stick to election fraud, Brad. Why are you posting push polls sponsored by conspiracy nuts? Engineers? Right. A tower FELL on WTC 7. Bush should be impeached for criminal negligence and incompetence...these TOOLS promoting nutball theories just distract from the real issues.

Zee

With ignorance this blaring, I don't think you should be telling Brad what to post.

NOTHING FELL ON BUILDING SEVEN.

There was minimal damage on the south side and two small fires in the building, and it came down at freefall speed into its own footprint twenty-odd minutes AFTER the BBC had already reported it had collapsed.

Not only that but simple physics says that WTC7 should have fallen in the direction of the damage... but it came straight down perty darn quick. On towers 1 & 2... if I threw a 50lb. brick off the top off the towers, would it turn to sub-microscopic dust when it hit the ground? And on the "collapse", apparently 70% of the debris was ejected outside of the building, so you cannot add this weight to the pile driver theory. And believe me, ZEE these things go hand in hand. Even if I did believe the official story, I wouldn't go around calling people conspiracy nuts. Over 100 of the 9/11 victims' families are calling bullshit too. Brad knows full well the importance of this, else he wouldn't have posted it.

Also... the steel is the most convincing evidence of all... what can do this to steel? Jet fuel & office fires? I don't think the meteor is anywhere to be found anymore. (Bottom of page)

What is truly sad is the ability of the government and the media to portray anyone who questions the official story as a crackpot and discredit anything they have to say. The debate over the events of 9/11 have never been allowed. First it was, no comment until the results of our secret investigation (coverup) are complete. Then we were told, here is what happened, question it and you hate America.

Something as simple as the video of the "airplane" hitting the Pentagon. What do we get? A video showing everything BUT the actual airplane. Any frame of video that may actually contain evidence of an aircraft are made a state secret and a threat to national security. Why? How could this happen? Who made this happen? What makes this secret? Who gets to see or has seen this footage?

Where is the reconstructed aircraft from the crash site? Why is the black box info top secret (after claiming no black boxes were recovered)? Show me two recovered jet engines of the proper type for that aircraft. That can't possibly be classified information because you told us what the aircraft was. Jet engines don't vaporize at a crash site. Show me a wing or tail section sheared off (These can't penetrate multiple concrete walls.

These crimes were as poorly planned and executed as their criminal war. The only skill they have shown has been in painting all who question or criticize as crazy, shrill and unpatriotic.

Zee:

Remember when they also said that people talking about election fraud were "conspiracy theorists"?

Zogby is the most trusted scientific poll and these 51%'ers are AMERICANS!

What you ignore is what ultimately undoes you.
By continuing to ignore the glaring inconsistencies in the 9/11 report, we are continuing the undoing of American democracy.
Don't go to work this 9/11. Let them know we mean business!

big dan - C&L is a Hillary Clinton controlled blog. since the clinton/bush regime have been allowing it to occur, their paid for blog sites tend to discourage dissenting voices concerning 9/11. You can bash bush/cheney etc. all you want but they are stuck in a faux left/right paradigm. also foxnews is endorsing hillary, they are acting like they are not but they always say she it the one to beat and they quote the paid for polls on how she has double digit leads.

zee - standard purposeful disinfo dude or mind controlled drone wants all blogs to stay in one focus so that it will be easier to divide and conquer. brad has never played the left right game and that is why i consider him the most credible.

anyway guys, we should be a little more concerned about their next attack, here are some pieces of news that may assist. I just pieces some dots together in a humourous but dead serious way:

http://forum.prisonplane...m/index.php?topic=5168.0

{Ed Note: Do not cut and paste huge documents onto this software. Make a link or don't bring it up. This about the fifth time I've had to bring this up with you, and I'm tired of asking. --99}

If you want to watch a video that highlights the current president's hypocrisy, watch this!

...the conflict between Bush's actions and his stated religious beliefs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsF-RiMzGpk

...and I suppose some of y'all saw this on FOX tonight...
I guess I'm now a communist and I like gay bathroom sex.
This reinforces the argument about the media falsely portraying doubters of the official story...
Geraldo gets pWnEd NYPD comes to his rescue

Muzgi:

My suggestion would be to start a fund for Cindy to replace Nancy the Bush Enabler asap. Brad has my email, I'll be the very first to contribute. Frankly, I wish she was aiming for Pennsylavnia Ave, but I'll settle for retirng Pelosi.

Ike Skelton needs desperately to go, too. "Assholes" that, Ike. YOU MUST GO.

Work like hell to be certain Arnold can't work dirty tricks to interfere with the '08 vote in California, they are already geared up to attempt it.

Work like hell to be certain those dirty tricksters are unsuccessful placing bogus propositions stealing California's Electoral college votes.

Work Like Hell.

Btw, those articles making today's news about the E-B4 Airborne Command Center videotaped by CNN over D.C. on 9/11/01? Same plane videotaped by CNN seconds after both planes impacted the Towers in NYC on 9/11/01. google it and see for yourselves.

If any here have some comments about how this plane could have been over both attack locations during the attacks, while the official bs story says "we had no planes in the area", I'm all ears to hear.

Tony??? You have something you wish to add?

Perry,

Why don't you put it in YOUR own words why you think WTC 7 "collapsed" without being hit.

Please explain the video, audio and taped testimony of EMT eyewitnesses who heard the countdown for "PULLING IT." "..3,2,1.." Just a "lucky guess", P.L.? They knew to the second. Please explain, without sending us off to read what others think, try articulating it for yourself.

I'm all ears, Mr. Logan, all ears.

I'm pleased that Brad Blog posted a thread about this; this appears to be one of exceedingly few genuine left blogs out there that anyone's heard of that is. I'm sure some of the smaller ones are real (and some are fake as well, like Moxie Grrl and Educational Whisper are both small and fake) but it's rare to see a well-known left blog that is actually genuine and not a gatekeeper blog like Crooks & Liars or Daily Kos or Democratic Underground. Which means when the truth about 9/11 becomes common knowledge, Brad Blog will be one of exceedingly few news outlets to retain any credibility whatsoever. The gatekeepers will end up on the ash heap of history alongside the official 9/11 myth.

I think Bush he is not that a slave...
For looking for the masters, we just simply watch at the federal reserve...

example Silverstein:
- 4,2 billions $ insurers
- 3,55 billions $ (request) of Liberty Bonds assignations
- 869 milions from Industry risk for WTC7
- 475 milions Liberty Bonds for WTC7

How mach it cost new WTC7?
707 milions
the old mortgage from GMAC (buyed from Black Stone), 450 milions transer to 400 milions

He has the money also for cigarettes...!

Who take also Liberty Bons free taxes?

Goldmann & Sachs 1,7 bilions of dollars for the new building center, free state tax, low cost of electricity...

Who really pay?

You!