READER COMMENTS ON
"Sibel Edmonds Calls for National Security Officials to Step Forward as Whistleblowers"
(52 Responses so far...)
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Newscott
said on 12/29/2005 @ 3:05 pm PT...
I'm glad to see Sibel Edmonds is stepping to the fore on this important issue.
It says a lot about our government that an independant organization has to be formed to try and protect potential whistle blowers, when they should already be protected by the laws of this land.
That Congress has failed to act is doubly shameful.
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Jonathan Gold
said on 12/29/2005 @ 3:47 pm PT...
Here's a story I wrote about Sibel.
Click Here
She is a hero.
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bluebear 2
said on 12/29/2005 @ 3:55 pm PT...
This lady has GUTS!
Thank you Sibel!!!!
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Slappy
said on 12/29/2005 @ 4:19 pm PT...
If we're lucky --- if the U.S. can find enough brave, honorable people like her to help topple the Bush/corporate regime --- someday there'll be a big, bronze plaque with Sibel's name and face on it in the lobby of the (renamed) J. Edgar Hoover Building.
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/29/2005 @ 4:24 pm PT...
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jen
said on 12/29/2005 @ 4:31 pm PT...
Thank you Ms Edmonds and Mr. Weaver! It's patriots like you that keep our hope alive that we WILL be able to save our country by honoring, preserving and defending our Constitution!
The more light that is directed towards the darkness hovering in and around the WH, the less that darkness will be able to survive and thrive as it has for the past several years.
We're here, willing and able to support and stand beside you. Let us know if we can do anything!
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/29/2005 @ 4:36 pm PT...
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Mugzi
said on 12/29/2005 @ 4:38 pm PT...
Thank you Ms. Edmonds for going the extra mile and speaking out. The truth is coming out!
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Floridiot
said on 12/29/2005 @ 5:04 pm PT...
OT, but I liked this ACLU ad here
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bluebear 2
said on 12/29/2005 @ 5:10 pm PT...
Doug E
Holy cow - you've given me something to later - read all those links!
Thanks - looks interesting!
I can't even look at Bolton without thinking "slimeball scuzbucket"
The wierd part is he looks just like a guy who took up with one of my best friends. Asked her to marry him and then turned out to be married and engaged to someone else as well. He took my friend for about $10,000 by activating old credit cards he found from her ex-husband as well as staging burglaries at her house. She managed to get some of that stuff back from the pawn shops he had sold it to, but it cost her a bunch.
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epppie
said on 12/29/2005 @ 5:43 pm PT...
Thanks Sibel. It may be that whistleblowers are our only hope. The last line of defense.
We need a similar group for the Stolen Election issue. There are people out there who have crucial information who HAVE to come forward (and I know that that has to be one of the hardest things to do). For example, there have to be journalists out there, like the one who talked to Peter Coyote, who know how the Stolen Election story has been suppressed in the media, who have emails and such to prove it.
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/29/2005 @ 5:47 pm PT...
The only way you'll get that is by setting up a NATIONAL STOLEN ELECTIONS WHISTLEBLOWER COALITION and there should be such a thing starting now especially with Dieb-throught speaking out.......
And that's just another mandatory thing in conjunction with removing the voting machines completely and getting verified paper ballots.
Doug E.
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dan
said on 12/29/2005 @ 6:24 pm PT...
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 12/29/2005 @ 7:38 pm PT...
Thank you for blogging at this site because we are AMERICANS AND WE WANT THE TRUTH as opposed to what the BUSHIT ADMINISTRATION SERVES UP.
2 STOLEN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS.
THE INSIDE JOB CALLED 9/11 USED AS A TOOL OF FEAR,ANGER, AND CONFUSION TO TAKE RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS AWAY FROM AMERICANS AND CREATE A REASON FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO CONTROL AND WATCH AMERICANS IN A POLICE STATE.
A WAR BASED ON THE LIES AND TIES TO 9/11 RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS AND CASULTIES OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQI CIVILIANS AND AMERICAN SERVICEMEN.
BUSH CHANGING THE RULES OF FORESTRY LAST DECEMBER AND THE DICK CHENEY - CORPORATE ELITE closed door PLANS TO RAPE THE FORMERLY PROTECTED WESTERN WILDLANDS AND IRAQ.
PLANS TO DELIST THE BROWN BEAR IN 2 MONTHS BASED ON more LIES SO THE REMAINING POPULATIONS IN THE LOWER 48 CAN BE HUNTED DOWN. THEN SELL OFF THE WILDLANDS TO THEIR CORPORATE ELITE OIL, GAS, AND TIMBER CRONIES DIRT CHEAP. Americans don't know the half of it.
I find it unacceptable as an AMERICAN that you cannot tell the truth because of some Bushit $ecracy order, in addition to your LEGAL case being dropped.
I want to paint the WHITE HOUSE pillars RED and temporarily rename it the LYING MURDERER'S HOUSE until Bush and Cheney are impeached and brought to trial. Then Schwartznegger can give them the thumbs up to their lethal injection and do Californians a favor by moving out of this country.
I am not Democrat or Republican. With a few exceptions, these parties have let me down because they are really one party self serving to the corporate elite INSTEAD OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. We the working class people must take our country back before it's to late.
THE ARCTIC IS MELTING!!! OUR GOVERNMENT'S ANSWER: TURN THE HEAT ON HIGH AND PREY TO THEIR GOD.
NEW ORLEANS IS THE USA.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/29/2005 @ 11:30 pm PT...
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MMIIXX
said on 12/30/2005 @ 1:22 am PT...
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Holly Cost
said on 12/30/2005 @ 4:15 am PT...
I think part of the secret that Sibel cannot divulge is the information about the drug smuggling and the many politicians involved. Many think we went into Afghanistan to get a cave man, some say it was oil. It was all about opium. The Taliban had shut down the opium production by 90%. The drug lords in the states and other countires were furious. As you well know, opium production is now at the highest level in decades. There is much more money in drugs than there is oil. The reason there are not any whistleblowers about 9/11 is because all involved were payed big bucks with the 2.5 trillion dollars the pentagon so conveniently announced it couldn't account for on September 10, 2001. A look at 9/11
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Dredd
said on 12/30/2005 @ 5:29 am PT...
Dog Temple #16
Your comment should be deleted and you should go back under the bridge troll.
Everyone else
Republican John Dean (past White House Lawyer) has pointed out that the spying criminal president, like Nixon, is spying on whistle blowers (link here).
Whistle blowers must be very careful, as should leakers of documents that show us Bush Administration crimes.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 12/30/2005 @ 5:31 am PT...
Sibel Edmonds, you're hurting America, you're unpatriotic, we should all put our trust in the president. Do you question parents who know what's best for their kids? This is unAmerican!
signed,
a stupid, retarded rightwinger
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 12/30/2005 @ 5:33 am PT...
...oh, and you're hurting the troops...
signed,
still stupid
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 12/30/2005 @ 5:33 am PT...
Hi Sibel: I lost my job for whistle-blowing in 2001, but my own circumstances are a pittance compared to what you've been through.
Welcome to a place where you have hundreds of friends, maybe thousands. We won't turn our backs on you, or treat you as a pariah. We'll understand if you can't reveal everything we want to know. We might not know your whole story, but from other evidence, we do know the kinds of people you've been dealing with...and we don't like them at all.
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 12/30/2005 @ 6:58 am PT...
Sibel, I know you're under a gag order. Can you explain a gag order in layman's terms?
Here's what a gag order appears to be to me: Our government overstepping their bounds in silencing an American citizen, infringing on their freedom of speech. And, what this means to me also, is that our government is corrupt to gag certain people.
Also, what would happen, if someone under a gag order speaks? Our corrupt government puts them in jail? Isn't there enought good people in this country to help you if this happens?
Also again, I read in American Free Press, that the NYC firefighters and police are all under gag order not to talk about 9/11, and they all know it was an inside job, they speak freely among themselves about it "off the record." Isn't that AGAIN our government being corrupt, placing a gag order to save the asses of those in power who are corrupt and breaking the law? Doesn't this make our courts corrupt, too, because they are the ones knowingly gagging people with important whistleblowing information?
Aren't gag orders for silencing patriotic whistleblowers??????????
Where is a case, where there's a gag order, and it's not protecting corruption?????
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 12/30/2005 @ 7:58 am PT...
I second Dredd's request, #19:
Please delete #16, idiotic & offensive.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 12/30/2005 @ 8:20 am PT...
For Big Dan: Your post got me to thinking. If Sibel was fired for whistle-blowing, but she's still under a gag order, then what did she blow the whistle over?
If the continuing gag order only pertains to classified information, then she must have been fired for revealing only non-classified information. But if it's non-classified, why is it still a secret? Quite bizarre.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 12/30/2005 @ 8:58 am PT...
Sibel will go down in history as a true American patriot
that is for sure.
(as far as #16 goes, I was thinking the same thing but not for print, maybe Brad thinks so too, thats why it hasn't been deleted yet, He-He)
I'm an old consruction worker, you'll have to excuse me
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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MarkH
said on 12/30/2005 @ 9:26 am PT...
Sibel should hang in there because there will come a day when the Bush gang won't be able to silence her and then she can scream at the top of her lungs for the world to hear what a mess the Bush people made of the government, America and the world.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 12/30/2005 @ 10:07 am PT...
I think there should be no such thing as a gag order. They are ridiculous, and don't make sense. It's simply silencing someone. Isn't that infringement on free speech???
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templedog
said on 12/30/2005 @ 12:17 pm PT...
she is one fine piece of ass, that's for sure.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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ewastud
said on 12/30/2005 @ 12:21 pm PT...
If there is spying on anyone allowed in this country, we American citizens should have 24-hour a-day cameras surveiling the activities of the Bush administration and members of Congress to monitor possible bribery, extortion, blackmailing, and blackmailable activities which they seem to be very prone to engage in.
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/30/2005 @ 3:20 pm PT...
You got that right, fight fire with fire. And no there is no reason for the gag order. She should just speak up what she knows no matter what because most likely it has to do with Israel, and we are running out of time....
Doug E.
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Soul Rebel
said on 12/30/2005 @ 4:29 pm PT...
I know Sibel has been through a lot of shit. What if she just makes a conscious decision to break the gag order and go "underground" or even to another country for protection - take on a new identity until this crap all gets uncovered and the necessary parties are either in jail or executed for treason. I mean, it's got to end there, doesn't it? If whatever she is being forced to conceal could bring down the entire administration, and quickly, would it be worth risking more to do so - and if brought down corrupt Democrats, and we had a big ol' house cleaning that would be just dandy.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/30/2005 @ 5:03 pm PT...
I tell you this, one thing she's concealing is whatever deal Henry Kissinger made with certain congressman including Rahm Emanuel.....
Kissinger knew from day one, over a decade ago, that 9-11 would happen.....and it was going to be by "arab terrorists" apparently...
Doug
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MMIIXX
said on 12/31/2005 @ 2:07 am PT...
I hope Sibel has "reduced to writting" all the information she has from her time at the FBI and has made many copies that are spread far and wide. Just to be sure the information can never be lost.
She should be protected 24/7 ,she will become a national asset when the fog clears.
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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MMIIXX
said on 12/31/2005 @ 2:14 am PT...
What are these documents?
Calling All Bloggers: These Documents need publishing
Craig Murray was the UK ambassador to Uzbekistan, untill his complaints and protest at the use of intelligence gained by torture got too much for Jack Straw and the Foreign Office, who set about attempting to unsuccessfully smear him, and to successfully remove him from office.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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H.B. Sac
said on 12/31/2005 @ 6:09 am PT...
Google news Sibel's name today only gives a mere 146 hits. Elton John returned 4700. I call that a news blackout. What can be done about this? Why won't the MSM cover this woman's story??
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CambridgeKnitter
said on 12/31/2005 @ 7:28 am PT...
#35 Maybe you misspelled her name; I got 206,000 hits.
Also, there's a curious tie to Joe and Valerie Wilson and the American Turkish Council, which is probably just a coincidence. I remember the first time I read Ms. Edmonds's story where she referred to the American Turkish Council. I knew I had seen that name somewhere before, in "The Politics of Truth". I checked the index, and there were several entries. Pages 240-241 recount how Joe Wilson first met Valerie Plame at the residence of the Turkish ambassador when he and a general were there to receive an award from the American Turkish Council on behalf of American troops of the European Command. Later, Joe Wilson served on the Defense subcommittee of the board of the American Turkish Council (see page 283).
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Doug Eldritch
said on 12/31/2005 @ 4:46 pm PT...
CambridgeKnitter:
That's more than a odd coincidence....It sounds like Plame may have been a double agent, and worked for the Turkish Guard which has alot to do with this conspiracy. She then likely stopped working "for" them after meeting and marrying Joe, but I bet she learned a whole lot of dirty stuff over there.....and I bet she wouldn't tell Joe that she kept some of her contacts...
That's CIA always on the move..
Doug
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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H.B. Sac
said on 12/31/2005 @ 7:12 pm PT...
#36:
I meant a Google News search, not a Web search...we'd like to get a sampling of how many of the 4500 news organizations tracked by Google are covering this woman's story and the answer is practically none of them..try for yourself!
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 1/1/2006 @ 2:50 am PT...
HB Sac:
Are you saying her story is only carried on the blogs? No one else? Must be really damaging is all I can think of...
Doug E.
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H.B. Sac
said on 1/1/2006 @ 5:22 am PT...
I'm just saying that it is more than likely not in the best interest of the news corporations' bottom line(i.e. their stock traded on Wall Street) that her story gets out...prime example, GE, the owner of NBC, and massive govt. military contractor.
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 1/1/2006 @ 8:54 am PT...
Whistleblowing is contrasted with wrongful leaking in the statement of one senator:
"There are differences between felons and whistleblowers, and we ought to wait 'til the investigation occurs to decide what happened" (link here).
So a leak of information is not wrong if it exposes illegal government actions, it is valid whisleblowing.
That is the constrast between the Plame leak and the NSA spy on america project. Sibel is a whistleblower like the NSA spy story leaker.
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merifour
said on 1/1/2006 @ 6:51 pm PT...
While reading the comments posted here I started linking to some sites mentioned in this thread (Doug, Dan, MMIIXX). I kept going and going and going and finally arrived at a site talking about a book I had on my shelf. I always find that when a book falls off the shelf (at a bookstore) it seems important to read, oftentimes I don't know why. This particular book was purchased by me in 1998, written in 1994. I had not read it, I have many that are waiting my attention. I most always mark the books I read, fill them with my own notes, etc. This book seemed to have not been opened...yet.
The book "Defrauding America" by Rodney Stitch, a whistleblower, begins with the corruption of United Airlines in the 50's to 60's and their control of the FAA. I find that in reading just the first few pages, that UA has been involved with coverups and deceit for 40 years or better, gee, strange they should be involved with 911, or 'coincidence'...lol.
I can only imagine what I will find out when I get into this large volume....more history to make my mind do somesaults....M4
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MMIIXX
said on 1/4/2006 @ 3:21 am PT...
M4 LOL (Nervously)
I think half the problem with getting people to pay attention to what bush and his cronies are to ,is that you get "overloaded" with examples as you try to explain whats really behind things.the curtis flows into the feeney that flows into the lemme that flows into jeb and the fdot that flows into 2000 vote fraud that flows into katheen harris butterfly that flows into lack of msm that flow into the male prostitute in the white house that flows into the plame that flows into rove ..................so much information to absorb ............unbelievable in the extreme ..............but here we are 2006 ............these guys make hells angels look honest
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merifour
said on 1/4/2006 @ 7:13 pm PT...
MMIIXX...what is amazing to me, as I read this book, I can look back at my own life during the periods of time covered and strange things that have 'indirectly' touched my life. I won't go into any specific details but I certainly now can see how events were arranged to effect certain changes that now have an explanation. I can even connect a dot to an event that 'happened' to me in 2000...go figure. Had I read this book in '98, I would have totally overlooked this one small sentence, that now has so much meaning to me. When I see this kind of information being given and can relate to what is being said on a personal level, then I have no alternative but to believe there is some Truth to what is being written. Overloaded, indeed! M4
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
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merifour
said on 1/5/2006 @ 10:45 am PT...
MMIIXX, I often wonder how 'my' people in Aus. and NZ see what is happening here. I am a bit embarrassed to even bring the topic up to them or discuss this in emails. I am so glad we have so many from other countries following what is happening here and reporting to us what they (you) see and care enough to keep us in the U.S. informed about what is going on in our Country. The book you mentioned isn't in my library, but I have no doubt there are many that follow the same story line M4
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
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MMIIXX
said on 1/5/2006 @ 12:19 pm PT...
I'm australian (living in new zealand) and I'm reading Paul Begala book “It’s the Economy, Stupid.” at the moment , you guy's are being "used" by your un-elected leaders .we can see better from here ,maybe ,you know you carn't see the forrest for the trees...
regards mick
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
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MMIIXX
said on 1/5/2006 @ 1:20 pm PT...
What did Kennedy say "before this decade is out ,we will send a man to the moon and safely return him to earth" and your country did ,now look at HAVA ,half a decade and still your vote is not safe .It's not a lack of talent it's a lack of motivation for honesty in elections.
COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
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merifour
said on 1/6/2006 @ 8:59 am PT...
mick, I know....only in 2000 did a few of us come to understand how elections were being stolen. I have read this has been going on for years but never gave it much thought until 2000. I remember the "October Surprise" (reagan/bush 41), just makes me cringe when I see what is happening here and the sheeple that will live their lives as if they were free because they have swallowed the whole whale. I am at the point where I believe that this can only be turned around by Divine Intervention, but then I also believe my God works through people and believe we can change this if enough sheep will leave the flock. M4
COMMENT #49 [Permalink]
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MMIIXX
said on 1/6/2006 @ 4:38 pm PT...
lemmings not sheep M4.
I'm an atheist ,man made this crisis ,man needs to solve it .
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merifour
said on 1/6/2006 @ 7:13 pm PT...
Lemmings it is then, mick, probably actually a more appropiate term as they are certainly following der leader over the cliff. You are right, man certainly did make this horror and only man can solve it. I am not an atheist as you know, but I would never judge anyone on their beliefs. My only problem is when someone trys to convert me, as bush's base seems hell bent for election to do. I do not adher to their born again bs and I pity them, thus my term 'sheeple'. They can have their beliefs, but leave me to mine. I only wish more of them would wake up to see what part they are playing in this cosmic drama. You are more tuned into the game that any of them and your information is very valuable to me. M4
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MMIIXX
said on 1/6/2006 @ 8:04 pm PT...
yes sad when someone like Sibel puts its all on the line and what is she , first or second generation American ?
I would only try to convert someone to think for themselves and not to repeat the "Talking points" be it politics or religion .
COMMENT #52 [Permalink]
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merifour
said on 1/7/2006 @ 8:44 am PT...
I agree, everyone needs to do their homework and quit parroting the party line. I seek information from numerous sources and reach my own conclusions, rather than being spoon fed from the likes of those on msm etc. To be an independent thinker is a threat to those controlling our nations policies. We are those labeled and chastised. I care not. I know where my allegiance lies and it is certainly not with those that have turned my country into a police state. My view of reality may change as more is revealed to me, but in the end, all roads seems to lead to the same place...Fascism in America. M4