READER COMMENTS ON
"Three Separate Incidents of Violent Intimidation of Dems by Republican Extremists in One Single Week"
(35 Responses so far...)
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PeasantParty
said on 1/27/2012 @ 4:27 pm PT...
Now, now. Be civil. (snark)
I don't understand why they are so stupid to believe this will never catch up with them. O'Keefe and the Teahaddist stomping heads and other illegal actions will boomerang.
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Soul Rebel
said on 1/27/2012 @ 11:45 pm PT...
One of the most dismaying, though not particularly surprising, set of reactions to the news of Giffords' resignation...as I was reading both the Yahoo! homepage story, and the story in my local paper here in WA, is the wingnuts who are proud to openly post that, for instance, it's a good thing she was shot, because at least now she is out of office. There are plenty of people who are just fine with violence against elected officials...and the plain truth, as I have encountered it, is that the vast majority of those people are right-wing.
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Becca
said on 1/28/2012 @ 1:19 am PT...
This is a sad thing or situation these days,but all these are not happening by chance. This happens cos it is written.
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Dredd
said on 1/28/2012 @ 6:32 am PT...
Thanks for revisiting the evolution from left to right in this post.
Violence flows within American blood, and so does peace:
We are divided, in America, into two classes: The Tories on one side, a class of citizens who were raised to believe that the whole of this country was created for their sole benefit, and on the other side, the other 99 per cent of us, the soldier class, the class from which all of you soldiers came. That class hasn’t any privileges except to die when the Tories tell them. Every war that we have ever had was gotten, up by that class. They do all the beating of the drums. Away the rest of us go. When we leave, you know what happens. We march down the street with all the Sears-Roebuck soldiers standing on the sidewalk, all the dollar-a-year men with spurs, all the patriots who call themselves patriots, square-legged women in uniforms making Liberty Loan speeches. They promise you. You go down the street and they ring all the church bells. Promise you the sun, the moon, the stars and the earth,–anything to save them. Off you go. Then the looting commences while you are doing the fighting. This last war made over 6,000 millionaires. Today those fellows won’t help pay the bill.
(General Butler, 1933). General Butler is the one who stopped the literal violent coup against FDR.
Video of the first 99% occupy of D.C. is here, General Butler stating that such protests are pure Americana.
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Ancient
said on 1/28/2012 @ 8:22 am PT...
Great post Dred! And Brad, thanks for not ignoring this factual issue!
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David Lasagna
said on 1/28/2012 @ 8:44 am PT...
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Ancient
said on 1/28/2012 @ 9:52 am PT...
Hey Lasagna, I LOVE Twain and have never read that. Unfortunately, my Saturday schedule is a bit busy at the moment, so I'll have to read it later...but thanks for sumpin to look forward to! Oh, and I've got a bit of personal OT to share...I'm to be Auntie Titi again! And this is my niece I helped get off of heroine. I'm bursting with joy as you can tell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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David Lasagna
said on 1/28/2012 @ 10:45 am PT...
Your quite welcome, Ancient. You're gonna dig it. And congratulations on your expanding Auntiedom.
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Ancient
said on 1/28/2012 @ 11:00 am PT...
Hey David, I've got a wee bit more OT...has anyone gotten scalia, alito and kennedy on record as to why they saw fit not to be at the State of the Union?
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Ancient
said on 1/28/2012 @ 11:58 am PT...
I mean really, isn't that what thugs do...ignore your pleas for decency?
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karlof1
said on 1/28/2012 @ 1:45 pm PT...
Obama kills thousands without any sort of due process, and we're supposed to get upset when a shirt with his picture gets riddled with bullets? This reminds me of the Billy Joel tune about not having started the fire as it was already burning. Barbarians engage in barbaric behavior, while extremely few people can actually be said to engage in civil behavior because that's almost impossible given the nature of the global political-economy as its fundamentally based on exploitation driven by greed. Until that fundamental basis changes, most of us will continue to behave barbarously despite thinking we are being civil, and the dysfunction within humanity will continue to deepen.
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Mo Rage
said on 1/28/2012 @ 2:07 pm PT...
As I wrote on my blog (Mo Rage) for tomorrow morning's post, I hope these don't get more prevalent--or worse--as we get closer to the election.
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David Lasagna
said on 1/28/2012 @ 2:11 pm PT...
Karlof1 @11--
I'd say the appropriate response would to be upset at both killing without due process and the creating of images that enable/encourage more violence. They're not mutually exclusive so much as interrelated, as you sorta get at in the rest of your comment.
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Ancient
said on 1/28/2012 @ 4:08 pm PT...
Whooaa David, I wonder what would happen if that piece of literature was taught in all high schools.
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karlof1
said on 1/28/2012 @ 4:25 pm PT...
David Lasagna @13: Would domestic politics be so laden with extremism if the US Empire wasn't trying to control the planet, given all the lies, euphemisms and violence that has entailed? Actions of congressional Democrats are easily as extreme as those of their Republican counterparts; and while Gingrich and Romney try to outdo the other in their declarations of the additional countries they'd wage war upon, Obama's already ahead of them, but the focus is all on those "wacky" "extremeist" Republicans.
As a historian, I'm trying to recall a period in US history devoid of extremist politics/politicos and must admit failure: Partisan passion quickly becomes violent when liquor is involved as it is almost always. A Barbarian polity breeds Barbarian acts, especially when egged on by Barbarian politicos, regardless of party. We can/should be outraged, but we shouldn't be surprised.
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David Lasagna
said on 1/28/2012 @ 4:41 pm PT...
Karlof1 @14-
You're pretty much preaching to the choir in what you write there. Where there's an area of disagreement, perhaps, is when you say the focus is all on those wacky extremist Republicans. I think the post here is written at least in part because the focus is NOT on those people in as much as Palin, Angle, et al indulge in that sort of violence espousing rhetoric as if it's not and then act all offended and/or refuse to respond when called out on it.
There is nothing about the post or anything I've written that's at odds with your overall evaluation of the situation, I don't think.
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TC
said on 1/28/2012 @ 8:31 pm PT...
God you libs are whiners and pussies
Where were you when union thugs were beating up tea party members? Silent as usual you fucking hypocrites
1) The dead cat - anyone could have done that. Where's the proof this is political intimidation
2) The crosshairs - are sure they didn't piss off one of their drug dealing, welfare cheat constituents?
3) The Obama shirt - who the fuck cares?
Toughen up fag
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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David Lasagna
said on 1/28/2012 @ 10:04 pm PT...
TC @ 17--
Sounds like a Rushbot. Is angry like a Rushbot. Makes no sense like a Rushbot. Complains like a Rushbot. I'm thinkin', Rushbot.
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Larry Bergan
said on 1/28/2012 @ 10:56 pm PT...
If America had a "I have a gun, you know" party. Which of the two parties would that be?
3...2...1...
Bingo!
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 1/29/2012 @ 7:18 am PT...
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Nunyabiz
said on 1/29/2012 @ 8:17 am PT...
All I can say is this "Liberal" if I came home and some reich wing nutbag had murdered my cat and I knew exactly whom did it, I would not bother calling the police which wouldn't do anything about it.
I would grab my baseball bat and go over to said teabaggers house and proceed to deliver some brutal justice.
Which BTW is the ONLY thing the usual Christian lunatic teabagger would understand.
You can not reason with crazy, and if you don't fight back then just like all animals and yes humans are animals they take that as a sign of weakness and will continue to up the crazy.
I guarantee a severe beat down with a bat then spray paint Nutbag across his wife beater T shirt will get the point across.
I would literally explode if this happened to me.
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Larry Bergan
said on 1/29/2012 @ 9:03 am PT...
The cowards who did these actions will never be known - except for the bastards who shot the Obama tea shirt.
Let's get ourselves together and work for peaceful resistance until it is no longer possible. It will take a whole lot of patience, but someday they will know who won.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 1/29/2012 @ 3:16 pm PT...
If anybody killed MY cat,I would be hard pressed not to shatter the fucker's scull.
kapeesh
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Larry Bergan
said on 1/29/2012 @ 3:18 pm PT...
I, presently don.t have a cat.
But if I did!
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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FreedomOfInformationAct
said on 1/29/2012 @ 9:52 pm PT...
The Secret Service should have put the smackdown on brewer.....she got too close, what if she had been armed!?
This kind of outright hostility from the extreme right-wingers in the repubulican party should not be tolerated! Did you see the new crosshair stickers some radical rightie is putting on democrats? Did you forget Gabby Gifford's horrific attack just a year ago?
I say tell the Secret Service to protect their charge, and keep enemies, both foreign AND domestic at more than 'arms length' from our Commander-In-Chief.
apparantly, some right-wingers didn't learn anything over the past year since this tragic event....
http://www.rawstory.com/...souri-lawmakers-offices/
I think these yazhoo's justify my argument perfectly.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com...6159633/ns/us_news-life/
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 1/30/2012 @ 6:47 am PT...
Hey their 17, you make our case too easy. Reactionary emotional smallness is actually the weaker stand!
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Ancient
said on 1/30/2012 @ 9:39 am PT...
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Jaded
said on 1/31/2012 @ 8:02 am PT...
I don't want to feed the trolls, but TC's post further deepens my belief that most right-wingers simply are incapable of making an intelligent thoughtful post/comment.
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Logan
said on 1/31/2012 @ 9:35 am PT...
those cops arent holding automatic rifles there semi automatic assault rifles with 30 round magazines
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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FreedomOfInformationAct
said on 1/31/2012 @ 11:56 am PT...
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Ancient
said on 2/1/2012 @ 6:41 am PT...
Holy Shit Freedomof Info, that's just flat out criminal on several levels and must be prosecuted. It should be brought into the national discussion and not dropped until our laws are applied! Paging Rachael and Ed.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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FreedomOfInformationAct
said on 2/1/2012 @ 11:48 pm PT...
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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DieDaily
said on 2/3/2012 @ 12:27 am PT...
Ok, so let me get this straight. If I'm an operative willing to do anything to discredit the party I hate, then all I have to do is "attack" the party that I love with some stickers on their doors and a dead cat? Wow! Cool! That's the easiest thing in the world to do!
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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FreedomOfInformationAct
said on 2/4/2012 @ 8:54 am PT...
yeah DD, the bullet riddled shirt or the aggressive offensively hostile attack by brewer or last years shooting of Gabby Gifford had 'nothing to do with' extremists in the right-wing.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 2/6/2012 @ 12:06 pm PT...
Hey dd, again the pitiful attempts using twisted logic that only allows for a win or lose mindset doesn't come close to addressing our world's problems. It just shows how stunted your thinking is. Humans being can disagree without violence and still have respect for all creation...including that which you disagree with. Didn't they teach you that in your home?