READER COMMENTS ON
"Pelosi Clashes With Protesters Over Impeachment"
(57 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Troubled Texan
said on 8/12/2008 @ 5:41 pm PT...
Wow,
Pelosi is such a scum bag.
I understand that it would be innapropriate to try to impeach Bush and his Junta while the're still in office. Pardons for all! OK, wait until they are out of office. Then they all are delivered to The Hague.
Pelosi states - "I preside over the greatest collection of integrity and idealism," Pelosi said. Prior to her appearance in West Los Angeles Monday evening, CNN’s Larry King interviewed Pelosi. She told King she was willing to drop her staunch opposition to offshore drilling and would likely allow the House to vote on the issue.
Is that not a Democratic scum bag?
But Pelosi’s comments appeared disingenuous to many, since she was largely responsible for crafting an appropriations bill in backroom discussions with House Democratic leaders, passed in June, and then worked secretly with the White House budget director offering up concessions on Iraq war benchmarks if Bush would agree to the domestic spending attached to the final bill with little debate preceding a vote on the measure.
In fact, since the electoral victories in November 2006, the Democratic-controlled Congress has approved more than $300 billion in emergency spending bills for Iraq and Afghanistan without the benchmarks or withdrawal timetables that Pelosi and other leaders said they would demand.
So. As Pelosi was campaigning she stated she would cut off funding for the war.
What did she really do?
In fact, since the electoral victories in November 2006, the Democratic-controlled Congress has approved more than $300 billion in emergency spending bills for Iraq and Afghanistan without the benchmarks or withdrawal timetables that Pelosi and other leaders said they would demand.
She's a liar.
"I take an oath of office to uphold the constitution of the United States and don't tell me that I don't do that,” Pelosi said, using hand gestures to emphasize her disdain over the impeachment demands. "Why don't you go picket the Republicans in Congress that will not allow us to have a vote on the war. This is not very effective. Not very effective."
Yet she doesn't uphold The Constitution. Again she's a liar!
"As Speaker of the house, the third highest office, first is the president, then vice president, and then Speaker, I take my responsibilities deadly seriously,” Pelosi said. “I try to promote bipartisanship but that's not what the other side wants."
I must state that it doesn't matter what office you hold in the US Government if you're going to use that office to lie to the American people you're still a piece of shit!
Troubled
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Billman
said on 8/12/2008 @ 5:51 pm PT...
Pelosi needs more heat like this... A LOT more! Maybe more things like that will help her see the light.
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Mark A. Adams JD/MBA
said on 8/12/2008 @ 6:02 pm PT...
Way to go Alan and Jason! Another citizen journalist got some audio of Pelosi at another book signing which may have resulted in the stepped up NAZI security presence.
Check out Pelosi Admits She Has NOT Read Articles of Impeachment!?!
This article has a link to a great video in which Nancy Pelosi admits that she has NOT read the Articles of Impeachment even after being asked about impeachment on The View!?! Apparently, Pelosi outrageously believes that Congress should no longer hold the Executive branch accountable.
It also has a plan for action and a link to CNN’s laughable impeachment coverage. Check it out and spread the news!
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Diane
said on 8/12/2008 @ 6:07 pm PT...
Forget sending money to Obama..Send money to Cindy Sheehan...no matter where you live. Besides financially supporting election integrity and independent media, financially supporting the removal of Pelosi and as many Democratic traitors as possible from office are important steps we must take in order to send a clear message we intend to take our country back. Since Cindy's election is in California, we have a better chance of avoiding election fraud. The money I might have sent Obama before his FISA vote..will go to Cindy. She's earned it!!
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Bruce Sims
said on 8/12/2008 @ 6:30 pm PT...
COMPLETELY concur with Diane's post; NO greater message could be sent to the Dem 'leadership' AND Obama than to have Pelosi lose her seat.
AND it is exactly what she deserves !
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Via
said on 8/12/2008 @ 6:38 pm PT...
She seems completely unaware of the public's contempt of her and of the Democratic congress for doing anything they can to avoid holding Bush to real account. Does she really think we are that stupid and uninformed?
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iaguy
said on 8/12/2008 @ 6:38 pm PT...
Nancy,
Needs to go, There is No reason She should of taken
impeachment off the table.
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Bill
said on 8/12/2008 @ 6:46 pm PT...
We do need more of this type of heat put on Pelosi and other republican democrats. But we also need to support Cindy in her challenge to defeat these Pelosi.
Democrat leaders like Pelosi are taking the core voters of their party for granted and expect them to put up with their corruption and arrogants.
Pelosi's lies are becoming more often and more arrogant as time goes by.
What is really arrogant is the lies she states like she has not seen a crime yet and expect us to swallow it..
We need Pelsoi , the Blue Dogs , Schumer , Dianne Feinstein and other non democratic leader voted out of office in the democratic primary elections.
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xargaw
said on 8/12/2008 @ 6:48 pm PT...
I will support the Democratic Party to the end because the GOP is dispicable, but Peolosi is one of the greatest disappointments of all time. She represents anti-leadership and everything that is wrong with our party. She caves on everything. She might as well be on the Bush payroll. That goes for Hoyer too and Reid in the Senate. A bunch of self serving wimps that put self interest over the people in this country.
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paul miller
said on 8/12/2008 @ 7:42 pm PT...
Her book should be, "Know your Lack of Power" that's what she seems to preach
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old91A10
said on 8/12/2008 @ 7:44 pm PT...
Birds of a feather: Obama, Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, Dean, Brazile, ..., each with a hand up one another's a55.
Squandered opportunity. I am voting for McCain to disable rather than enable these pigs. That'll be a sharp stick in the eye for this corrupt, cowardly, duplicitous DNC.
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BudBrax
said on 8/12/2008 @ 7:54 pm PT...
old91A10 you are a jackass,go vote for Mccain so we can have more wrong doing by our GOVT.You think voting for A repuke will restore integrity what a complete moron.
{Ed Note: Bud, please take note of our rules for commenting. Please don't make personal attacks on your fellow commenters. Thank you. --99}
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Robo
said on 8/12/2008 @ 7:55 pm PT...
I'm a 45 year old progressive Independent and I think that the state of the nation is as much a result of Democrats as Republicans. Nancy Pelosi is, without doubt, the worst Speaker of the House in my lifetime. I did not necessarily like some of her predeccesors, like Newt Gingrich, but THEY were leaders. She lacks integrity. She is shrill AND she is a Bush/Cheney enabler. The absolute worst and I shudder at the thought of her being 3rd in line to the presidency.
I'd also like to know how much the government spend "protecting" this band of criminals who act under the the totle of "Congress".
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Jay Dee
said on 8/12/2008 @ 7:55 pm PT...
When will you realize that a vote for the Ron Paul Revolution is a vote FOR the Constitution?
But go ahead, make the corrupt system's day.
Vote Democratic and get more war, more economic destruction, oil at $10/gallon, real estate in free-fall, jobs diving, record bankruptcies.
Don't like that? OK, go ahead and vote Republican and get exactly the same thing.
Or, you could join the Ron Paul Revolution and help restore the Republic to rule by law.
Or, you can continue your personality worship and elect a facist dictatorship ruled by a few men owning corporations who care nothing at all about your love of the USA.
So go ahead, make their day!
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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BudBrax
said on 8/12/2008 @ 8:03 pm PT...
... Jay Dee said on 8/12/2008 @ 7:55 pm PT...
When will you realize that a vote for the Ron Paul Revolution is a vote FOR the Constitution?
A yeah! here we go with the racist Paul BS.These are the good Americans who don't believe in Public schools or anything Public.No let's all depend on the so called FREE MARKET which favors the rich and not the least in between.You are just as sick as the douchebag old91A10 who thinks voting for a Repuke will bring integrity to the Republic.
Memo to Jay DEE you ain't rich enough to survive how Ron Paul thinks this country should be run jackass.
{Ed Note: Bud, please take note of our rules for commenting. Please don't make personal attacks on your fellow commenters. Thank you. --99}
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abacus
said on 8/12/2008 @ 8:04 pm PT...
Spineless.
Consider this:
Joan of Arc, before Orleans: “ I will take those forts.”
General Dunois: “Single-handed?”
Joan: “Our men will take them. I will lead them.”
Dunois: “Not a man will follow you.”
Joan: “I will not look back to see whether anyone is following me.”
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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EMPY
said on 8/12/2008 @ 8:29 pm PT...
The best thing that could happen would be for Nancy to lose to Cindy. This would send a message to Obama that letting crimes go unpunished is NOT ACCEPTABLE.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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EMPY
said on 8/12/2008 @ 8:41 pm PT...
"I take an oath of office to uphold the constitution of the United States and don't tell me that I don't do that,” Pelosi said."
The truth hurts doesn't it? I understand your desire to sweep these crimes under the rug, since you can be implicated as being involved in almost all of them. How could you be expected to lead the charge on torture when you were briefed and approved? Lied into a war--you knew the truth.
I would compare your situation as asking the getaway driver to demand hearings for his own bank robbery. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
Please explain to us how you didn't break your oath.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Vman
said on 8/12/2008 @ 8:54 pm PT...
Yeah right Nancy promote bipartisan bull with a bunch of GOP shamless dicks. No wonder we are screwed, she knows not how dark the other side is and how nasty you need to be to counter them, screw getting along with them, sometime you gotta take'em out, they sure would love to kill you.
Bush gone in a hundred days? WTF! Remember you Nancy when you were so proud of your 100 day agenda and how much you would get accomplished. How much evil do you think GW has planned for his last 100 days. You friggin Bit&H. Armageddon, finANCIOAL COLLAPSE, continuity of governemnt , false flag attack, you name it, wake up.
And now you say it's ok to let GW pardon all the crooks and war criminals even himself after they robbed and destroyed not only our economy, but murdered our soldiers for lies, and shat on our diginity and honor in the eyes of the world. Your get out of jail free card speaks much for your rich ass and fraudualant idealism and integrity. You really think Cheney and Bush will just waltz on home? Give me a break FANCY NANCY YOU IDIOT.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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louis peluso
said on 8/12/2008 @ 9:00 pm PT...
i am SO dissapointed with ms pelosi. i remember how much work (and money) i expended to help get democrats elected in '06 and i remember the sense of triumph when she was made speaker of the house.
to see how far removed from the reality of the situation she is is heartbreaking to me.
the poll numbers are low becasue pelosi and some of the remaining dlc'ers are STILL pushing this neocon-lite gop rove-style crap which we begged to be away from.
its a sad day for this country. for the first time, i really do believe that ms pelosi needs to be thrown out of office, along with the rest of them. did cindy sheehan ever get on the ballot?
after bush is gone, i will make it my life's work to rid our government of these criminals and their enablers. these turncoat democrats who think they're going to get away with more business as usual.
if the current crop of republican criminals (bush, cheney, rove, etc) are allowed to go free with NO repurcussions, there will be HELL to pay.
i hope somebody is able to communicate this to ms pelosi and her cohorts.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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old91A10
said on 8/12/2008 @ 9:18 pm PT...
@BudBrax
It is almost certain that there will be solid, perhaps veto proof, Democratic majorities in the House and Senate. That ought to be more than sufficient to accomplish everything.
But, what have we just witnessed with Obama, Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, Dean, Brazile, et al.? Cowardice, duplicity, treason, ... --- from taking impeachment off the table, to forsaking promises on important issues, to undermining The Constitution in ways more severe than all of Bushit's signing statements.
A sharp stick in the eye is the only thing this Democratic Party will understand.
Too bad it had to come to this. A squandered opportunity, brought to you by the aforementioned miscreants.
It does give me a bit of pleasure that my vote for McCain will cancel out two from your kind.
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NoOneYouKnow
said on 8/12/2008 @ 9:27 pm PT...
I don't understand why Pelosi (and the other coconspirators, but particularly Pelosi) hasn't gotten more heat from Americans. Didn't she show up at the Kos convention or some other lefty confab to a warm welcome? On The View, she gets hit with one hard question by Joy Behar and is allowed to skate away with a BS answer. No reaction from the audience. In her home district there's been no campaign to recall her that I've heard about. Obviously there's a lot of us who are infuriated, but how small a minority are we? I'd like to know so I know how many of us there are to retake our government.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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ROBinDALLAS
said on 8/12/2008 @ 9:27 pm PT...
We gave the Democrats a fucking chance in 2006. They showed us, with the exception of Kucinich and a few others, that they are just as worthless as the Republicans. The Bush administration is now a bulletproof crime syndicate. They own all the Republicans except for Paul and most of the Democrats including Schumer and Feinstein. They own Mukasey the Department of Justice. They own the Supreme Court. They own the State Department. They own the media. They own the ISPs. They own the telecoms. They own the military. They own it all.
If you think Obama is going to be able to change this bullshit, you are kidding yourselves. They already own him. He flopped on FISA and retroactive telecom immunity. He flopped on faith based bullshit initiatives. He has Zbignew Brzezinski, Mr. CFR, as his foreign policy advisor. Obama may look better and talk the talk, but he has shown what he is all about. You see, you don't get to be president unless you fellate the power elite.
This country needs to wake up and realize that the solution does not lie in elections. They are all rigged. Unless people get fed up enough to take some risks, there will never be any significant changes. Fuck this bullshit.
And wake the fuck up about 911 too. It was clearly a false flag psyop perpetrated by the Cheney Bush Crime Cabal. Open your fucking eyes and see the Truth.
Goddamn it let's do something! I am tired of this fucking nightmare!
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Ska-T
said on 8/12/2008 @ 9:34 pm PT...
"I preside over the greatest collection of integrity and idealism," Pelosi said.
*****
Then why are there so many representatives under investigation, indicted, or convicted for corruption? Nancy, you don't get out much do you. I'll put up my colleagues at the Biophysical Society over your Congress any day.
Why are over $5 million per year spent by lobbyists on each representative? Corporations don't spend that amount of money unless the return is phenomenal. It is well known that there is no better "investment" than lobbying. The collective amount of money donated to the campaigns of each rep by ordinary people don't come close to $5 mil.
My point.
The three most important things to accomplish to turn this political nightmare around are
(1) Fair elections - as advocated here. (How have we allowed corporations to count our vote?)
(2) Clean Money election campaigns - the people must pay for and "own" their representatives.
(3) The outlawing of any "gifts" to representatives.
In other words, we must go back to the time when it was illegal for corporations to involve themselves directly in the political process.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Jay Dee
said on 8/12/2008 @ 9:37 pm PT...
BudBrax,
Thank you for your response.
You wrote:
"Memo to Jay DEE you ain't rich enough to survive how Ron Paul thinks this country should be run jackass."
Please read the following 'Rule of Commenting'. It would be good training if you followed it - good training for living in a society governed by rules instead of the actions of people governed by outbursts of emotions.
That is the society that Ron Paul would like to see replace the corrupt 'rule by irrational whim' of whatever person gets into office.
Thank you moderator for having 'Rules for Commenting'. This is proof that you believe that people should be governed by just laws. Hopefully your readers will agree and elect people into office who will respect the laws created by the democratic will of the people.
Love your rule about avoiding 'ad hominem' attacks:
"An ad hominem argument consists of criticizing or attacking the person who proposed the argument (personal attack) in an attempt to discredit the argument.
It is also used when an opponent is unable to find fault with an argument, yet for various reasons, the opponent disagrees with it."
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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sandy
said on 8/12/2008 @ 10:08 pm PT...
Seems Queen Pelosi is way too full of herself and really needs to be brougt back down to earth. I will never ever vote for her again and I've called her office to say so. I'll do everything I can to make sure anyone but her is elected. She makes me sick and is a mealy mouth excuse for a leader. She has to go.
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Soul Rebel
said on 8/12/2008 @ 10:57 pm PT...
Fuck Nancy Pelosi. Jesus , I wish I had something more constructive to say. But fuck her.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Jiggs
said on 8/12/2008 @ 11:09 pm PT...
Although I've given several hundred dollars to efforts to impeach Bush and Nancy continues to stonewall the effort. I voted for Bush twice, and now I want him impeached and his administration tried for war crimes. Nancy, Congress and Bush (with a few exceptions) have brought tyranny and fascism to the old red, white and blue. What's next? Martial law? If you don't believe what these traitors have done to us google or youtube:
Military Commissions Act
Patriot Act
FISA
Watch List
National Security Letter
SV40 Polio Vaccine
FEMA Camps
You'll never learn what is really happening watching main stream news.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Judith Nappe
said on 8/12/2008 @ 11:12 pm PT...
This is a heartwarming article because of the great working activists who are knocking and banging on Pelosi's door. She may realize that she really got knocked to the floor on this round at her book discussion. She never read Dennis Kucinich's 35 articles of impeachment. Can't read. Yeah. Good work for giving a solution this Pelosi problem, Mr. Alan Breslauer, et al. More of the same and have fun while doing it! I will donate to Cindy Sheehan's campaign. Wish I could vote for her too.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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SLSmith
said on 8/13/2008 @ 12:10 am PT...
**PS - at the end of BradBlog's article, Ms. Pelosi LIED LIED LIED. She knows that the HJC voted on July 30th YES (20 yes 14 nahs) to file contempt charges against Rove. The next step is to get the contempt vote on the docket for full House to vote. And that would be you Nancy...That is one of your tasks as Speaker of the House...part of the oath..your Employee Handbook.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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nora
said on 8/13/2008 @ 12:13 am PT...
The Democrats need their own "October Surprise" --- a progressive counterpart this election year. I say make it putting impeachment on the table!
What a surprise it would be to start impeachment hearings even that late --- letting the world know that Americans recognize that the Bush Crimes are serious and unacceptable!
Excuse me. I must have fallen asleep and dreamed that notion in the preceding paragraphs.
Nancy Pelosi started out with such promise, surrounded at the podium by children and all. And then something happened and she forgot the kids and continued to give Bush money --- so much money --- it seems impossible it went for anything having to do with our troops (who are still responsible for many of their own necessities ("send me some more socks and underwear PLEASE, and a flashlight")), not to mention that the so-called reconstruction of Iraq has bypassed water, electric grid, and sewer system repair and has succeeded only in putting up concrete slab walls to create ghettos in Baghdad. For this Nancy has allowed the Bush War Profiteering Appropriations to put the future of American children in hock.
What happened to Nancy Pelosi? What made her forget the children? I recall she had a White House lunch alone with Bush and Cheney after assuming the Speakership; did they slip a mickey to her? Was she chipped unawares? Her behavior is bizarre. And unacceptable. Good luck to Cindy Sheehan!
P.S. Thank you for the excellent coverage of this event. Makes one realize Pelosi would have sold a lot more books if she had written one on "How We Impeached George W. Bush"!
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Bamboo Harvester
said on 8/13/2008 @ 1:30 am PT...
In actuality pelosi is a bigger failure than bush ...she got shit accomplished.
But, she did manage to get her Fuckin' book out in time !
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Micha'el
said on 8/13/2008 @ 3:55 am PT...
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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William H. Bassett
said on 8/13/2008 @ 3:55 am PT...
Petition to Remove Nancy Pelosi from the position of Speaker of the House of Representatives
Whereas Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, having failed to fulfill her oath of office as a United States Representative from the State of California, to “protect and defend the Constitution of the United States” by abusing the power of her office as Speaker of the House to prevent the consideration of Articles of Impeachment – impeachment being the Constitutionally mandated process to hold the Executive accountable for violations of the Constitution, the laws passed by Congress, and international treaties having the force of law under the Constitution, and
Whereas Nancy Pelosi, as Minority Leader, prior to the mid-term elections of 2006, publicly stated that “Impeachment is off the table”, a politically partisan strategy designed to avoid activating Republican fears that might have disadvantaged her party’s candidates in the election, and
Whereas Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi continues to obstruct the Constitutionally mandated process of impeachment in furtherance of a politically partisan strategy designed, as she has repeatedly stated -to pass the Democratic Party’s legislative agenda in preference to fulfilling her Oath of Office to “protect and defend the Constitution of the United States”, and
Whereas Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi’s continued use of the power of her office to compel other Democrats - Members of the House of Representatives - to withhold their support for impeachment, in violation of their oaths of office, corrupts the most basic functions of the separation of powers designed by the framers and set down in our Constitution,
Therefore: we, the undersigned concerned citizens urge the Democratic Party to take action to the end that Nancy Pelosi be removed from the position of Speaker of the House of Representatives and sanctioned for her obstruction of the Constitutionally mandated investigations and impeachment proceedings occasioned by the many credible and well documented allegations against George W. Bush and Richard “Dick” Cheney.
Further: we pledge to withhold financial support for any candidate, office holder, or organization such as the DSCC, DCCC, or DNC seen to be failing in their responsibility to the Constitution in calling for immediate investigations into the actions of George W. Bush and Richard Cheney leading to the possible filing of articles of impeachment.
Madam Speaker!!
The Constitution, Your Oath of Office, Principle, The Rule of Law - All trump “party loyalty” and “bi-partisan Agendas”. Here are the Bush crimes: FISA Act violations, Torture Code violations, fraudulent case for Iraq War (Title 18 US Code §371).
Answer Joy Behar’s question.
It is our question as well!
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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socrates
said on 8/13/2008 @ 4:03 am PT...
{Comment deleted. Knowing disinformation and another comment thread hijacked. See the very few Rules for Commenting at BRAD BLOG. I've done my best to give you as much leeway as possible, including warnings, but you just can't seem to respect the rules here. Enough is enough. - BF}
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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TEDEGER
said on 8/13/2008 @ 4:38 am PT...
Actually, I find BRADBLOG to be one of the more cogent blogs on the'net. SOCRATES may or may not have something to say, but since Brad seems to toe the Progressive line fairly well, I think it's as unfair to complain about HIS friends, (even if true), as it is to fail to complain about Nancy's fascist friend Felix Rohatyn, and McCain and Lieberman's friends in Organized Crime. Google works well for ALL sides of the argument; if you don't believe it, just Google McCain + Organized Crime, or Rohatyn + Pinochet. ANYONE who votes for McCain is voting AGAINST any decent future for the Nation. If you simply cannot think of voting for a black, then vote for Bob Barr. Remember, he was the stalwart defender of the Constitution who thought any lie was an impeachable offense, even one concerning consensual illicit sex, which is a LOT more reprehensible than lying a Nation into war(?) actually not - BARR (A Republican!) would like to see Bush impeached.
I have my own remedy - true, it has done no good, but every time I get a begging letter from the Democrats, (I"ve been one for seventy years!) I write them, using THEIR postage-paid envelope, "WHEN articles of impeachment against Dick Cheney are published, ask me again. I am not contributing to a Party that does not support the Constitution." Of course, it does no good, but at least I don't waste my money, and someone may even undersstand, someday.
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Soul Rebel
said on 8/13/2008 @ 8:13 am PT...
Socrates - Go drink your hemlock.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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John H Kennedy
said on 8/13/2008 @ 8:21 am PT...
Pelosi is a Traitor To Her Oath Of Office And To Our Constitution. All Incumbent Democratic Congressmen who refuse to even hold impeachment hearings are traitors to their oath.
It is time that all all voters and activists used their Power To Force Impeach Hearings.
"As John Dean points out, Bush/Cheney have broken the same laws Nixon did, only Nixon's actions did not cost the lives of over 4000 brave American men and women" (and over 30,000 GIs wounded, one Million Iraqis Killed).
Bush and Cheney are the most impeachable US executives in American history. If the Incumbent House Democrats do not hold impeachment hearings soon it will be plain to all that they are Traitors to their Oath Of Office and to Our Constitution.
The failure of the House Democrats to hold Bush and Cheney accountable for the WMD Lies is unforgiveable. The Democrats lied to us about Stopping The Iraq War in 2006 and then proceeded to fund it thru 2009. Even the Democratic Base will not support them in the November election.
No matter what Bush/Cheney Crimes evidence comes out the Incumbent House Democrats will try to ignore it. It is time for some tough love for Incumbent House Democrats.
How can we make Impeachment Hearings Happen?
Arrayed against impeachment literally, is nearly the entire Democratic Party establishment as well as most Republican Congressmen. But the Democrats control Congress and can start Impeachment Hearings with a simple majority vote. They have the votes. We just have to make them do it.
Most rank and file Democratic voters want Impeachment but are being ignored by the Democratic Congress.
In addition, many of the so called progressive organizations are also in cahoots with the House Democrat and Pelosi (such as: MoveOn, ACLU & UFPJ ) and are against impeachment. It will take a very hard fight to over come this and some real courage on the part of Democratic voters.
MoveOn could cause Impeachment Hearings all by itself but refuses.
UFPJ once said it was for impeachment but refuses to take its 1,400 local activist groups to the street to support impeachment hearings. Is it lying?
ACLU (don't get me going) was the primary leader in causing impeachment hearings for President Nixon, but today refuses to do so. If the hundreds of violations of Our Constitution by Bush and Cheney are so much worse than Nixon... Why in Hell isn't ACLU supporting it? What underhanded deal have they made with the Incumbent House Democrats and Pelosi?
In Colorado we have actually been doing negative campaigning against all incumbent Democratic Congressmen who reject impeachment.
We have a Congressman Udall who is running to be a Senator from Colorado. He supposedly has a liberal background but is moving right as fast as he can. He avoids all protesters who want to stop the Iraq War funding and who support impeachment. The difficult aspect is that the Colorado Democratic Party, the Denver Media, and most Colorado Progressive organizations are helping him avoid us, However, we have had contacts from strong Udall supporters and bloggers asking us to back off. We know we are having an effect on Udall's Campaign.
The race for the US Senate from Colorado is statistically "too close to call", so we have a real chance to make a difference here. We believe that since the race is "so close" that we actually can stop Udall from winning and going to the Senate.
The way we are doing this is by doing "Negative Protesting" at our weekly impeachment events, at all of Udalls public events. We only have to sway the vote of a very small percentage of voters to keep Udall out of the Senate. This is doable.
Up until about two weeks ago, the honking at our weekly events had quadrupled since January. Then we used much "tougher" anti-Udall language on our signs and the honking doubled again. So much so that the Denver Police came and threatened arrest if we continued to use "honk to impeach" signs and also threatened us with citations for "disturbing the peace". A strong indication that we are getting to the Democratic establishment and that the public is with us.
Given that impeachment advocates have worked hard to lobby Congress to hold hearings and have done so for many years with no results, we think it is time for all impeachment advocates to try a different tactic, to get tough with Incumbent House Democrats.
The House Democrats have ignored us for years. Unless we threaten to un-elect them with negative campaigning they will continue to ignore us. The only thing they care about is getting re-elected.
Unless Angry Liberal Democrats, Independents, Republicans, Greens and the rest of you get off the couch and carry signs in front of all Incumbent House Democratic Congressmen's offices with harsh language such as
"UDALL is a Traitor to Our Constitution because he Refuses To impeach"...
There Will Be No Impeachment and No Accountability.
It is up to you.
John H Kennedy, Denver CO, 43 yr Democratic voter,
Obama delegate to the Denver County Democratic Convention, organizer of the
IMPEACH COLORADO COALITION http://ImpeachCO.com
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COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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Diane
said on 8/13/2008 @ 8:43 am PT...
Socrates...I do the same thing with my "begging letters" from Democrats....including Obama. NO IMPEACHMENT = NO $$$!! At times I make comments about FISA, election fraud, and 9/11 false flag as well.
I also call and talk to Obama's volunteers in Chicago at least twice a week. I keep the number in my cell phone address book (1 866 675-2008...wait a few seconds ..then press 6). Many of them are quite interested and willing to be educated about various subjects including 9/11.
If I decide not to vote for Obama.. I'll vote Green.
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Disillusioned
said on 8/13/2008 @ 10:14 am PT...
Lol Socrates, such a weak attempt at derailing this blog.
Brad's site has been running for roughly 10 years, most of which I have perused frequently.
Brad is about as anti-conspiratorial as you can get while investigating election integrity issues. He NEVER claims something without verifying the truth of it and showing to the reader the evidence. In fact, that's the entire problem with today's electronic elections now isn't it? Nobody ever can verify the truth of it, because the evidence can be so easily tampered with or simply erased.
Catch a clue, quit being a retard, and unless you're Karl Rove himself, think about what you have to lose when american citizens lose our constitutional rights because the people who get elected are by-and-large criminals who couldn't care one iota about upholding the US Constitution.
If you are Karl Rove, then please stop by for a few minutes, I have a baseball bat that wants to say hellow to your face.
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Disillusioned
said on 8/13/2008 @ 10:16 am PT...
I think hellow is a freudian slip with the word 'blow'.
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Rosencrantz
said on 8/13/2008 @ 10:26 am PT...
It's not Pelosi's fault that Republicans prevent the 60-votes?
Uhmmm....what?!?! If there was an actual 60 vote rule, as Pelosi claims, then why is it whenever the President wants something, it ALWAYS passes without the 60 votes supposedly needed. Why is it only when Dems CLAIM to stand for something, but then don't all vote for it, and then cave and give the PResident 100% of what he wants, that there is some 60 vote rule?
Presidents unqualified crony appointments? No 60 vote rule. Presidents warmongering? No 60 vote rule. But somehow, standing up and holding the President accountable requires a 60 vote rule? WTF???
Here is a plan for Pelosi. Maybe if you want something to get done, you shouldn't be putting yourself in a position to lose from day one. Like with telecom immunity, it was the Dems who ignored an excellent bill from their own party in order to pass one written by Dick Cheney. They claimed to be against "telecom immunity" and yet they ignore a proper bill to pass a bad bill, knowing full well they would never get the 60 voted that are supposedly required to STRIP telecom immunity from the bill. This is blatant enabling and complacency.
And speaking of telecom immunity and Democratic failure, maybe Pelosi would also like to respond to why it is when Republicans put anonymous holds on important Dem bills, those holds are treated as sacred and unquestionable. But when a democrat puts a hold on a bill (ie. telecom immunity) those holds are completely ignored.
Thanks to so-called "leaders" like Pelosi and Reid, the Democratic party has become nothing but Republican enablers. And as long as they continue doing what they are doing, Bush Co. and the Republicans will continue damaging the country because they know there will be ZERO repercussions and they know the Dems will go out of their way to light the match they burn the constitution with.
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ragouman
said on 8/13/2008 @ 11:20 am PT...
SAVE USA TAXE PEOPLE MONEY .SAVE THE CONSTITUTION.OUTSOURCE THE DAMN CONGRESS.
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Kmac
said on 8/13/2008 @ 11:36 am PT...
Madam Speaker!!
The Constitution, Your Oath of Office, Principle, The Rule of Law - All trump “party loyalty” and “bi-partisan Agendas”.
Here are the Bush crimes: FISA Act violations, Torture Code violations, fraudulent case for Iraq War (Title 18 US Code §371).
You keep telling people you need reasons to act.
There are your reasons. Do your job or step down. Let someone with integrity, someone that takes their oath to defend the Constitution seriously, someone who isn't all lathered up about the power of the position take over and do the job.
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DebbieKat
said on 8/13/2008 @ 11:53 am PT...
For those of you who are wanting to send a message to the Democrats by NOT voting for Obama, please consider voting for Nader or one of the other third party candidates. DON'T vote for McCain! Protests are one thing, but voting against your own best interests to do so is unwise. Vote Nader! He's already polling at about 6% nationwide with NO media coverage.
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Rick
said on 8/13/2008 @ 1:31 pm PT...
She's owned by the same power that owns Bush. She's no different. She talks the talk, but she's no different. She is out for Wall Street, not Main Street. I just had to shake a Republican Congressman hand because of my job and had to be quiet and I feel so dirty.
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TEDEGER
said on 8/13/2008 @ 1:34 pm PT...
INFORMATION FOR ROSENKRANZ
You wondered why the Democrats refuse to support Democratic (or Progressive) causes.
The fact is that there are a lot of Congresscritters who wear the Democrat label, but are NOT Democrats! First of all, there is the "Democratic Leadership Council," which, as is well known, is Republican lite. Then there are the Blue Dogs, who are really Libertarians (Definition: A Libertarian is a person who dislikes "Governmental Interference" so much that he will vote to shut down the Fire Department when his own house is on fire. Then there are the "False Flag" Democrats, who are ACTUALLY REPUBLICANS, but who ran as Democrats when they realized that people were FED UP with Republican corruption. What we need is a new politics in this country - but I fear it is too late.
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marc_in_scottsdale_az
said on 8/13/2008 @ 2:54 pm PT...
Agreed 100% with TEDEGER. That said, I have two words for all progressives/liberals/Democrats considering voting for McSame and/or 3rd parties ... Supreme Court. After 2000, when I voted for Gore as "the lesser of two evils" (my opinion) and after he let Bush win (I take Michael Moore with a grain of salt but agree Gore should have fought harder) I said "no more" of voting for the least bad choice (I wanted to vote Nader in 2000 but voted Gore as a vote against Bush). But reality has struck. I'm an Obama supporter by default (Kucinich then Edwards then Obama) and will vote for him gladly but would have voted Clinton just as gladly, although I can't stand her policies, because of the Supreme Court. There will be at least two vacancies and probably more in the next four years and regardless of how bad I think Clinton would have been for the country, she would have picked eminently better choices for the SC and other lifetime judgeships.
I am as pissed off as anyone about the lack of spine in our Congressional Democrats but I refuse to vote for anyone but the Democratic nominee because I refuse to let McCain wiin and appoint more far-right activist judges. This is bigger than my offense at the Democrats, think of your children, grand children. Think of your neices and nephews. Do you really want them to grow up in Nazi America? Is Obama ideal, no. Is he head and shoulders above McSame, a resounding YES!!!
My $.02 ...
--marc
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Ancient
said on 8/13/2008 @ 3:00 pm PT...
EMPY # 18 I totally agree! pelousy is every bit as indictable as the criminal administration and that is the sole reason impeachment was pulled. Her complicit ass would have been exposed!
OT Ron Suskind interview:
http://www.democracynow....the_way_of_the_world_ron
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Michael Keenan
said on 8/13/2008 @ 3:23 pm PT...
Jerry Voorhis, whom Nixon defeated in our local congressional race, on review of the call for Nixon’s impeachment said that Watergate was just “the tip of the iceberg” and that Nixon should have been impeached when he announced that he would ignore the so-called “Mansfield Amendment.” To wit:
” Unless Congress has the statesmanship, the courage and the respect for its prerogatives to impeach Richard Nixon, the consequences for the future of constitutional government, as well as honest government, will be bleak indeed. It will furthermore be almost as serious a mistake for the Congress to impeach Mr. Nixon for technical reasons only as for it not to impeach him at all.”
And further that the most important basis for impeachment was the:
“usurpation by Mr. Nixon of legislative powers that belong exclusively to the Congress under the Constitution.”
My report as it comes from Nixon’s old congressional district and as God is my Fuhrer believe that: We are in a state of constitutional crisis. For Rumsfeld to lobby on intelligence reform and now have military acts off the books means that the “linchpin” of the constitution, the taxing and spending powers of Congress, of raising standing armies, has now been violated. My Congressman David Dreier now has no way to effect neither my Liberty nor my Republic.
[Ed Note: Read the rest here. Michael, please read our rules for commenting. Thank you. --99]
Indeed, Madame Pelosi, where is your stateswomanship, your honor and your respect?
I am Citizen Michael John Keenan.
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Jay Dee
said on 8/13/2008 @ 5:18 pm PT...
All this anguish about the leader of the Democratic Party refusing to follow the Constitution does nothing to change things.
What WILL change things is for you to vote for the only true defender of the Constitution for the last 35 years, the one man who walks the talk, who doesn't flip-flop, who votes and acts on principal.
If you REALLY want change, you won't vote for Obama. You will vote for a man whom you can count on to vote his conscience and base his decisions on the Constitution. That man is Ron Paul. That vote is yours. What will you do with it?
Four years from now will you say "I voted for Obama and now I wish I hadn't"? Or will you say: "For the first time in my life I voted my conscience. I voted FOR the candidate I wanted. I voted for Ron Paul and I am proud of my decision to vote on principal."
Never mind what those corrupt politicians are doing. What will YOU do?
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Mugzi
said on 8/13/2008 @ 5:38 pm PT...
Someone said this country couldn't take another impeachment - I say this country can not only take it, this country needs it! What is the statute of limitations on crimes against humanity??
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FOIA/PA
said on 8/13/2008 @ 9:26 pm PT...
Nancy is worth over 50 millions, naturally she has to defend her interest. If you are running scared Nancy, then QUIT.
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Ancient
said on 8/14/2008 @ 10:04 am PT...
Thanks for the edit 99. I hope everyone caught Part II of the Ron Suskind interview with Conyers on board with Democracy Now today. From what i gathered it is time critical that We The People unite to put the pressure on these public servants to join with Conyer's present investigation to get the info we need to shove pelousy into action and get our country back. They(Senate Intelligence Committee) would be instrumental in viewing the total classification black hole that swallowed the evidence we need!
http://intelligence.sena....gov/memberscurrent.html
Calling the msm to demand coverage of this will also help create critical mass of informed people. IMHO its the best way to honor those who have died for TRUE DEMOCRACY EVERYWHERE.
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Disillusioned
said on 8/14/2008 @ 2:17 pm PT...
When Nancy P announced early in her tenure of speaker that "impeachment is off the table", I knew nothing short of multiple videos of Bush murdering people in cold blood would convince her to proceed with impeachment.
Pelosi is bad. Bad for the dems, and even worse for america.
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Marion Young
said on 8/14/2008 @ 7:53 pm PT...
Pelosi is worthless. Absolutely worthless. She's more concerned with her status and looks than she is with the duties she was sworn to do. Words cannot describe my disgust with her and the majority of senators in Congress - on both sides of the same fence.
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Bamboo Harvester
said on 8/14/2008 @ 10:25 pm PT...
Fucking "9% nancy " pelosi should have resigned long ago...
dems have had such shit leadership.
BTW ~ pelosi reminds me of Wilma Flintstone they have the same taste in jewelery ...