So the "glitch" is that they wouldn't register photocopied ballots? That sounds like a good thing to me.

I mean, I share the concern about whether other photocopied ballots weren't read correctly, but, at the same time, I'm concerned about whether the machines counted any of them correctly.

Everyone's all over this! Not waiting for the presidential election to be stolen again! Keeping an eye on the PRIMARIES this time! Great job! Improvement over elections 2000->2006!!!

Glitchbatcher, Glitchbatcher, Batch me a Glitch

I say if there were "machines," and none of them was working properly, that counts as more than one "glitch."

Wait a minute!

An electronic voting machine that requires the poll workers to just count the ballots by hand...

Sounds like it's a "feature" and not a "glitch".

I wonder how much it would cost to get 3 to 5 voting machines of this calliber in every precinct across the country, so the machines can sit in the back of the room while the poll workers count the ballots by hand?

If each scanned ballot had a unique number assigned to it,then there could not be photocopied ballots. Photocopying ballots is a red flag for election fraud.

They should have had hand ballots available for this eventuality.

Also unique numbered ballots would facilitate recount accuracy as well as preventing stealth "ballot scanning".

Yes, this is good news if:
1. the original ballots were indeed numbered.
2. the photo copied ballots have the same number.
3. the photo copied ballots were not included in the machine counted totals (it was either hand or machine counted totals).
4. the chain of custody has not been interrupted.
5. sufficient funds can be raised for the recount.

Question does the democratic and republican challengers each have to raise $65,000. or is that cost split between the two?

So what's the deal ? Will there be a recount or not? How long does it take?

Steve B #5 said:

If each scanned ballot had a unique number assigned to it,then there could not be photocopied ballots. Photocopying ballots is a red flag for election fraud.

Not in NH. It's a good procedure that they have in place if paper ballots run out. They are to use Absentee ballots, and if they run out, they go to photocopied ballots. As I reported on the afternoon of the election when the disinfo reports were coming out of the media (beginning with Drudge apparently) suggesting ballots had run out in the morning, as if to suggest that wouldn't have happened on touch-screens, for example.

Jean Binder -

Recounts, of both the D and R Primaries are to begin on Wednesday, according to the NH SoS website. Counting the whole state will take "days to weeks" according to a NH paper.

If you need any more proof that they are cheating in your mind, just look at the spin they're putting on this and not reporting the actual problems that are going on, they always seem to show up here when we get too close.
And why is it that all of the dis-info always seems to come from the Corporate MSM and these so called Conservative web sites and now some so called Librul web sites ?

They are the masters of illusion as Karl said "we create our own reality now"

Just that alone should set off alarm bells for all of you doubting Thomas's out there

BTW does anyone know if Drudge or freeperville has mentioned anything about Ms. Edmunds story ?
I refuse to leave a hit there so, anyone ?

Brad:

Can we therefore assume that all states using Diebold optical scan machines programmed by LHS will not be using numbered scan ballots?

I am guessing that LHS is also supplying the ballots to be scanned.

This would essentially mean that all of New England would be in the same boat as NH with the disadvantage of not being able to compare hand counted districts with machine counted districts thus further compromising any possible recounts in those states.

Flo, try Googling it... have yer cake and eat it too.

I did 99, nary a mention on any wingnut site

Unfortunately I don't think that electronic voting will turn out any better this time than the last. Have we learned anything?

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