Is it possible there is a whole cabal of Republicans that like to diddle little boys ?...I'm beginning to wonder
Otherwise why are they covering this up ?

Look at this site in the Netherlands.
We have the same problem with electronic voting machine's.

Heres a good one... White and Nerdy

"The Foley Catheter"

http://www.phoenix5.org/...sary/Foley_catheter.html

No pun intended . . .

The Abramoff connection hadn't occurred to me. Thanks for pointing that out.

It's my thinking that this story was going to break anyway. You can't keep diddling kids, and keep it a secret forever.

So in my thinking it's a matter of timing. And I think the Senate Hearings on the Torture Legislation made the timing appropriate.

It's not a matter of whether stories like this should be leaked. They'll get out sometime. You can't stop them forever.

But how do you gain some political capital out of them?

{Ed note: Charlie, knock it off. Post deleted. Complete disinfo. I've been cutting you slack, but if you continue your disingenous posts, you will be banned entirely. Please don't make me do that. This isn't kindergarden. Thanks!}

The "right thing" may not be right at all . . . . . Hummm... Do the "Left Thing" . . .

What are they gonna call it....Wienergate ?

Well, to the credit of the Republicans, they are arguing that middle aged men having relations with young boys, isn't any worse than middle aged men having affairs with consenting nineteen year old women.

Wait, that argument is stupid! I got quit listening to the radio.

TPM Muckraker alludes to a Wonkette piece that --well, inquiring minds want to know if Foley checked into a Scientologist's rehab center. They (Wonkette)notes some very interesting connections in Foley's past. Can you imagine Scientologists getting siding with Foley and Christian-zealots gathering against him in one election cycle? What would the Republicans do? To whom would they cater?

Weaseldog #5

It falls right into the repug plan of distractions so they can pull off bigger scams.

Love Clint's response!

And OT maybe? Interesting the recent trend of Republicans immediately checking into alcohol rehab clinics. Hello, Diversion, Are you There? Oh, I get it, it's not an incurable and inappropriate sexual obsession coupled with workplace sexual harrassment - it's the damned martini's. Wow, double denial! Now if they would just stop selling Vodka everyone would be juuuuussst fine.

Good news!!! My source seems to have been correct. Feeney DID agree to debate and he specified the issues that Clint has brought up! I got the language from the reporter. Here it is!! Methinks Clint got a separate letter. or perhaps Feeney sent one to the press that was different to what he sent to Clint.

LETTER from FEENY to CLINT (from campaign manager)"
In response to your recent proposal for debates in the upcoming election please note that Representative Feeney has been pleased in his 16 years of public service to debate each of his opponents in both primaries and general elections. A number of prior opponents have become both friends and supporters.

This race is totally different than any normal election. One thing both campaigns agree on is that only one of the two candidates is remotely competent to serve Central Florida in the U.S. House of Representatives.

If Mr. Curtis is telling the truth, then Mr. Feeney is not competent to serve. Mr. Curtis has accused Mr. Feeney of, among other things:

• Knowing about the 9/11 attacks before they occurred
• Knowing about and discussing with him the invasion of Iraq before the 2000 election
• Complicity in or knowledge of the “murder” of a D.O.T Investigator
• Ordering the development of software to “rig” elections
• Aiding or abetting a “Chinese Spy Ring”
• Ordering an IRS audit of his girlfriend
• Attempting to cause him bodily harm via tampering with his vehicle
• Attempting to cause him bodily harm via poisonous insects
• Killing his dogs (one with poison and the other by shooting)
• Various other crimes and misdemeanors.

If Mr. Curtis is correct, clearly Congressman Feeney belongs not in Congress, but behind bars or in the gallows.

On the other hand, if Mr. Curtis’s allegations turn out to be untrue and without credibility, then he is not mentally stable and is a pathological liar. He certainly would not be fit to serve in the United States Congress.

In each of the Congressman’s prior campaigns he has debated policies that concerned the constituents of his district…issues such as education, tax policy, health care, and national security. Time and again his positions have been shown to be consistent with the beliefs of Central Floridians and they have chosen him to represent them. Sadly, this election cycle proves to be one wherein Mr. Curtis has made character and integrity the cornerstone of the campaign and I cannot allow this character assassination against Congressman Feeney and other innocent parties to continue.

Issues other than the competence of the two candidates are irrelevant. If Congressman Feeney is really a communist spy and complicit in the 9/11 terror attacks, anything he says about his policy on Islamofascism and terror is irrelevant. On the other hand, if Mr. Curtis’s book and other slanderous and bizarre attacks are not true (and if he was fired by the Florida Department of Transportation as a “security risk”) then his stated positions on the War on Terror are irrelevant – he is simply unfit to serve in any elected office and instead needs serious and intensive mental treatment.

Only one candidate is fit to serve. Perhaps a debate on the various chapters of Mr. Curtis’s book would help undecided voters decide who is telling the truth.

Alternatively, we would suggest that three of Mr. Feeney’s former employers or partners, liberal and conservative, Republican, Independent or Democrat, present a defense of his character, integrity and trustworthiness.

Mr. Curtis could have his three former employers, who have sued him for theft, fired him, or both, explain his background to voters. That should clarify which man is fit, and which is just plain crazy.

Sincerely,

Jason Teaman, Campaign Manger
Tom Feeney for Congress
24th District, Florida
407-366-2212

Now Feeney's CHILDISH website, on which he puts a tin-foil hat on Clint Curtis, isn't quite so funny, huh??? Hmmm....a website that appeals to 2nd-graders...hmmmmmm......

Jason Teabag must be the answerman

The current Republicans in power seem to be a coalition of nazis and gay-bashing gays. Very strange.

#1 floridiot,
I think there is something funky going on. The noisy anti-gay republicans have always given off that creepy homo underneath the outer mask that hates gays vibe that you get from some priests. I don't know how to explain it. It's not that they are gay or anything, but that they are completely dishonest to their very souls, and condemn what they themselves are most guilty of. It seems that a necessary ability to be a top republican is to be able to have a self image that in no way relates to reality; a high on their horse pomposity that screams at the "evildoers" for doing the very evil that they are more guilty of themselves.

In a semi-related vein, I've always thought there was a connection between Abramoff and Gannon/Guckert. It would be interesting to see how many visits by Abromoff coincided or was somehow correlated to visits by Gannon/Guckert. Of course they seem to be awfully stingy with that information for some reason. For those that don't remember Gannon/Guckert is a MALE PROSTITUTE that runs an escort website. He somehow obtained hard to get press passes, and made many visits to the white house, sometimes forgetting to sign out. Hmmm. He was visiting somebody. Who?

Rove.

BlueBear2...

You know, I said as much on the comments on Atrios' blog and it upset Holden and Tena so much that they put me on the troll filter.

I was surprised that suggesting there was a vile Republican plot, would get me labelled a Republican and a Troll. But it did.

They were so happy that Mark was going down and I was a party pooper.

But is Mark going down? Is the rehab part of the deal? Immunity from prosecution if he does it their way?

So far he's only guilty of talking dirty. Anyone know if he actually had relations with minors?

what he did was bad and evil, but the timing makes this look like a sacrifice pawn. Better to get it out of the way now, rather than wait for November.

Let me preface this by saying Foley is SCUM! And just about as bad, if not worse, is anyone who covered his ass on this one, similar to the Catholic Diocese around America shipping pedophile priests to and from. If ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE, republican or democrat, covered for this guy, they should lock them up and throw away the key.

Brad said...
Like his colleague Foley, Feeney has enjoyed trumpeting his own work in the House to create legislation to protect children from predatory behavior.

So what are you saying, Brad? I think you are about to cross a dangerous line my friend if you continue this sort of rhetoric.

Like Foley, (and those Feeney hangs with from DeLay to Abramoff to Ney to Cunningham to Jeb and George W.), he's never been big on transparency or honesty either.

Never been big on honesty? When did he lie to you or anyone, Brad? What, he's a liar because he a) he denies all of Curtis' BS lies, or b) because he won't give you the time of day.

So we expect he'll do whatever he can to dance, dodge and otherwise obfuscate on this matter as usual, unless someone holds his feet to the fire.

Oh I'm sure you've got your hands all ready to hold his feet. Stay tuned to the mainstream media and we'll see how it unfolds. I'll be looking for something a little less biased than what is provided here though.

Weaseldog #19

There's this over at Raw Story:

Foley IM's appear to be 3rd degree felony

Dear The Answer Man,
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Brad said:
Like his colleague Foley, Feeney has enjoyed trumpeting his own work in the House to create legislation to protect children from predatory behavior.
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You said:
So what are you saying, Brad? I think you are about to cross a dangerous line my friend if you continue this sort of rhetoric.
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Is that a veiled threat?
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Brad said:
Like Foley, (and those Feeney hangs with from DeLay to Abramoff to Ney to Cunningham to Jeb and George W.), he's never been big on transparency or honesty either.

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You said:
Never been big on honesty? When did he lie to you or anyone, Brad? What, he's a liar because he a) he denies all of Curtis' BS lies, or b) because he won't give you the time of day.

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He lied when he opened his mouth (and maybe started blogging?)
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#12
I gotta defend drunks!
I also wonder about the Republicans who get run off from Congress for unetheical or immoral problems and then check themselves into dry-out hide outs. They wanna drop off the media radar for 30 days or more and they wanna blame an alcohol addiction.
I've known many alcoholics during my years as a musician, and not one has been a person who changed their basic morality because they got drunk.
What a cheap stupid (and maybe workable in front of hard-core relegious right zealots who believe drinking is wrong and the work of the devil...) defense of outragious behaviour!
Does anybody know if there is a listing of Dems who have engaged in such nastiness? It seems to me that whenever it's a public figure who gets involved in child molesting, it's almost always a Pub...
The crime is so disturbing and distasteful that folks don't wanna even talk about it; they just hope it'll go away. This helps a guy who hides out for a month or 2...

shw

Answer Man said:

Never been big on honesty? When did he lie to you or anyone, Brad? What, he's a liar because he a) he denies all of Curtis' BS lies, or b) because he won't give you the time of day.

Feeney has lied time and again concerning Clint Curtis, Feeney's relationship to YEI, and in the nonsense he puts out on his smear blog (Feeney's 9/11 Conspiracy Theory anyone? Curtis is a "stalker"?). Among many other such lies and smear tactics.

I don't care if he gives me the time of day or not. If the truth is on his side, he's welcome to give it to me, and I'll be happy to report it. So far, he's not done that. Has done quite the opposite.

That said, Feeney is in the Leadership. They were reportedly made aware of this issue nearly a year ago. So what did Feeney know and when did he know it?

Seems quite a fair question to me, and one that even his supporters, such as yourself, ought to be asking now before it comes out later in another, less graceful way.

Clint is gonna tear him a new one.... ha haa ha ha ha! Clint will take him down in a debate issue by issue, and if it goes to a personal level, then Feeney better understand ...this "crazy" rhetoric that Feeney has been walking with has worn so very thin, and now the coals are starting to burn his feet....good luck in your debate Mr. Feeney, you will really need it....

and btw, this is totally off-the-wall, but does anyone know if Foley and Feeney are Bohemian Grovers? if so, did they share a log cabin?

BlueBear2, Foley certainly broke the law and did vile things. He should be prosecuted. I hope he's prosecuted as if he were just any other American middle aged male sending dirty emails to children. But he's a Republican Congressman and he'll likely get off lightly.

Shannon, no kidding on the drinking part. My morality and opinions are essentially the same if I'm drinking. Only I get louder. And then sometimes I write inapproriate songs....

Not that I'm a musician per se...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-L7U1dL_Ws

Wouldn't be a bit surprised if Tom Feeney goes down with Foley. It's out that there are more than Foley. If some of them are democrats, so be it. Get all of the scum out of govt. And the democrat years ago that was seeing an underage female page, he should have been kicked out of the House. I'm sick and tired of pedophiles in govt. Bush the first should be investigated for Midnight Tour of the White House, the Franklin conspiracy....many accusations have been made against him, and pedophiles seem to be everywhere that George and Jeb happen to be. The link would be made and they would all be in jail if they were poor and black. Oh, poor black people don't seem to do it like rich white republicans.

Everybody ought to be aware that Bill Moyers is back on the prowl at PBS. He's got a two hour show this Wednesday 4th of October. It's on here in Utah at 8:00pm so I guess it's on at 10:00pm Eastern.

It's going to cover Jack Abramoff and I'm not sure what else, but it should be good!

Also, did anybody see that guy from the Frontline show on the Colbert Report. He said they have a show coming up called "The Enemy Within" about terrorism, but he seemed to discount the reports about terrorists in the US from the Bush Administration. Interesting!

Is the public getting PBS back from the Republicans?

CLINT CURTIS TO THE HILL: 'If I win Feeney will be in jail. He's acting frantic because he is frantic'

Feeney must be beside himself to hear somebody saying that about him. Go Clint!

Answer Man: How can people like you continually defend Repbulicans in light of facts? You are a prime example of the "blind faith" crowd that votes Republican no matter what. The difference between Republican voters and non-Republican voters, it's becoming painfully clear, is that Republican voters are not based in reality, and they would vote against their own interests just to vote Republican, and also their arguments have no integrity, since they simply vote Republican and defend criminal Republicans at all costs. They seem to go out of their way to defend the bad Republicans!!! And don't say a word about the good ones! Remember the taco/pizza resteraunt parable? I'll have to find that and post it again. If someone comes to Brad Blog and continually disagrees, it only makes sense if they, in fact, are trolls. Why would you find in a pizza parlor, someone "hanging around", always talking about how bad the pizza is, unless he works for the taco resteraunt next door? Then, it makes total sense. Otherwise, what normal human being who hates pizza, would "hang out" at a pizza parlor, telling all the pizza lovers how "terrible" pizza is??? The actions of a troll, not an action of a rational human being. So, Answer Man is either an irrational human being or a troll, take your pick!!!

Big Dan, some people are paid for trolling. There are several firms that specialize in undercover internet propaganda, for commercial and political interests.

Weaseldog: Ever notice, progressives can easily pick out a troll? I guess it takes some intelligence, which the rightwingers don't have any of...the rightwingers are easily tricked into voting against their own interests from a bunch of "used car salesmen"...the "family values" party of pedofiles, mistress chokers, cheats, etc...has these idiots voting for them on those issues!!! They vote for Bush for security, and he disregarded warnings and is responsible for 3,000 people dying at the WTC...YET HIS KOOK-AID FOLLOWERS VOTE FOR HIM AS THE "SECURITY" PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They can talk these idiots into ANYTHING!!! They control all houses, the presidency, and the courts, and they STILL ALLOW ABORTION, SO THEY HAVE AN ELECTION WEDGE ISSUE!!!!!!!!!! They had enough Republicans to ban flag burning, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO IT SO THEY HAVE AN ELECTION WEDGE ISSUE FOR IDIOTS LIKE ANSWER MAN!!! What would they run on , otherwise???

...and think of FOX News and the Washington Times turning on Republicans only 30 days before an election, as the gas prices: IT WILL GO BACK THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!! WashTimes/FOX = gas prices!!!!!!!

Big Dan, I knew a guy long ago that wrote used car commercials for a living. He told me that half of the population falls on the left side of the bell curve, and that they buy cars too.

Of course, I knew that, but I hadn't thought about what it meant. Since then, I've become aware that this truism applies to pretty much everything that involves people.

Over the years I've met too many people that want nothing but a roof over their heads, a working television and a promise of safe keeping. They believe that politicians are by nature, some of the wisest and most benevolent people on the planet. They vote, and they scare me.

There's a huge segment of the population that feels they need protective father figures for leaders, and the Republican Party gives them that. They find that real messages of freedom and Democracy don't carry guarantees, and that scares them.

I'm afraid that indepedent thinkers are a minority, and we don't carry weight as authorities on anything, unless we're seen on televion often.

And doesn't everyone just 'know' that you can't trust anything on the internet? The lobotomy tube works because it excites primitive parts of the brain. Folks in television and movies know that constant flashings of images and colors stimulate the primitive parts of the brain. Storylines, commentary, visuals, all go straight to the subconscious. Television is a form of emotional learning through hypnosis. It teaches people how they should feel about things.

And it's feelings that drive society. It's the statistics of individual actions that add up to results.

And the trolls that are true believers, don't live by facts or logic, they live through their emotions, through their feelings. The written word won't get through to them. They need visuals, flashing colors, and sound to push the lessons in.

Wease,

You mean like, Troglodytes ?, or as I likes to call them, knuckle-draggers

Weaseldog #34

There used to be a guy named Mike that came around here who spewed out all of this Rush and Hannity crap! He was always extremely wordy and "truthy" with lots and lots of animated graphics, (vibrating tanks, tons of flags and patriotic stuff), Brad used to allow graphics which was fun, but it probably DID take away from the discussion when used that way. It also made Mike look computer savvy to people who didn't realize how easy it was to put that stuff in there from a free website. He never claimed to have created the animations, some of which were pretty clever.

Lets see, who else uses the flashy graphics and lies technique, can anybody say FOX NEWS!

Actually, I think color and moving objects do stimulate the brain into learning by holding your attention, and is fine when combined with, (oh, what is that thing) oh yeah, THE TRUTH. Too bad it works so well when "catipulting the propaganda", (can you believe Bush got applause for that line?)