READER COMMENTS ON
"VIDEO - Tom Delay's First Day in Court"
(42 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:21 pm PT...
oooo - I hate watching this stuff. I guess I have to go back and listen to the first part because I kept being distracted by the very large nipple on Mrs. Delay's cheek. Gah.
How many judges were Republicans who judged against Democrats in very high profile cases?
This had better not get whitewashed.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:29 pm PT...
The neoCons like to yell that the charge is politically motivated.
Get up to date. Charges is the latest. Multiple charges, plural.
They are perfectly legal charges. NeoCons confuse the indictment process with the trial process. Every charge that goes to the jury trial level is a valid charge. Even when the defendant is found not guilty.
Charging a crime and proving it beyond a reasonable doubt are two different worlds entirely.
These are valid charges which the majority of the grand jury brought, not Mr. Earle.
The ignorance peddlers working for delay have advanced a notion that the judiciary is political, rather than legal in nature. In the attempted politicization of a natural criminal prosecution process, they use the Rovian tactic of character assassination.
But in their blind ignorance they forget that it is the judicial process they are slandering and dragging down. They are damaging American government.
Every judge in America belongs to some political party, and in every case there will be prosecutors, defense attorneys, judges, and juries composed of multiple political parties.
What DeLay and the other neoCon criminals want to do is take that great value from America. It is a great value to be able to do government above the partisan level. As a matter of fact, it must work above that level if the American government claims not to be a bananna republic but instead a mature democracy.
Not only are DeLay neoCons de-valuing the dollar, they are now de-valuing the judicial branch (1/3 of American government).
It is wrong to damage America in this way by attempting to drag down the judiciary into the gutter of partisan political criminals.
Remember the stupid Terri Schiavo legislation DeLay master minded, which the judiciary saw for what it was? So did the majority of Americans, and they still do.
We can get rid of DeLay and the rest of the criminal neoCon mutants and be so very much better off for it. And to their credit the sane folk in the republican party are beginning to do just that.
Meanwhile, the delay gang stepped up and told the judge that he could not judge impartially because he had contributed money to political parties that are not political parties delay approves of.
What about Meir? Is she only the judge of the party she contributes to and therefore cannot sit on cases involving parties other than those she gave money to?
Hey what about the majority of us ... the rest of the people she is supposed to represent?
What kind of mind would think like that? The answer seems to be "the neoCon criminal mind".
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:49 pm PT...
Dredd --- I would pay LOTS OF GOOD MONEY to hear you say those words on CNN or any other mainstream media channel. Oh if only ...
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Frank Parker
said on 10/21/2005 @ 4:49 pm PT...
I also will enjoy the detailed media coverage.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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bubbagene
said on 10/21/2005 @ 6:35 pm PT...
Kira
NO doubt that is a nasty thing....kinda looks like a ROVE microphone implant gone bad...you can almost hear the turd yelling...smile you guilty bastards...if they ( the Delays) keep appearing on TV, you know she will have to have corrective surgery...wonder if hes gonna smile like that when hes in the prison shower with a johnson stuck in his backside...
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 10/21/2005 @ 7:22 pm PT...
#1
Kira,
LOL! Thanks for making me laugh!
And that smarmy "smile"? Please. That smile is as phony as his molded, synthetic hairdo. That thing is so thick with shellac you could probably bang it with a rock.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 10/21/2005 @ 7:58 pm PT...
Everyone needs to email Ronnie Earle and tell him to file a motion to remand. There's absolutely no reason for there to be any change of venue.
Also indicate that if Delay does not let up, a judge with no partisan involvement should be appointed immediately. A completely indepedent judge and no longer any of the republican/democrat judges.
Doug E.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/21/2005 @ 9:26 pm PT...
Joan!!! Love your description .. LOL!!! I needed a laugh, too. He's so effing arrogant. I want him to own up to his dishonorable acts and I want him brought to justice.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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czaragorn
said on 10/22/2005 @ 3:00 am PT...
Joan - what I woudn't give to be seated between DeLay and Condi at a banquet with the cameras rolling - knock their heads together but good and watch 'em both shatter!
Bob, waiting here in Prague with a Cohiba and a bottle of Havana Club (another expat bennie) for the moment we're all waiting for...
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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The Joker
said on 10/22/2005 @ 7:14 am PT...
Delay had that smile painted on by the same plastic surgeon that did me
Shit-eating Grin
At the altar with an empty bowl,
I beseech my maker
for meaning that life’s struggles offer.
Sinking into the silent space of my center,
I settle within my questioning,
vulnerable, receptive, strong,
waiting for wisdom…
Relaxing in the arms of God,
my mind opens to possibility,
my heart to deeper love,
into and through my surrender
flows divine answer…
Inducing calm and trust
in cosmic order,
exalting me to a blissful smile.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 10/22/2005 @ 7:45 am PT...
#9
Des,
"...is it ever a good idea to be that happy in court?..."
Well, the dictionary.com definition of the word "smarmy" I think hits the nail (or I guess in this case, the Hammer) on the head:
"Hypocritically, complacently, or effusively earnest; unctuous."
He's far from happy; but God forbid he should let a crack show in that plastic fantastic veneer. Did anyone check the moisture level of his trousers, I wonder, in the courtroom?
#10
Joker,
"Delay had that smile painted on by the same plastic surgeon that did me..."
Hahaha! Did he do the hair, too? And that poem (lyric?)....too good for the likes of him.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 10/22/2005 @ 8:24 am PT...
#8
Kira,
I'm glad you liked my description, but I gotta confess I didn't originate that 'rock' analogy. I pinched it from a long-ago friend. Kind of. Gotta tell you the story now, haha!
I was in church with my girlfriend...I guess we were about 12. We were being typical, giggly girls, TRYING to be properly quiet, but there was a guy a few pews in front of us whose comb-over was so shiny & unmovable it looked as solid as a cliff.
She leaned over & whispered:
"Look at that guy's hair...it looks like you could bang it with a rock!"
We laughed like lunatics for the rest of the service & got in big trouble with our parents, who were NOT amused.
It's one of those memories that STILL makes me laugh.
Thanks, Marcia, wherever you are!
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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hiley
said on 10/22/2005 @ 11:31 am PT...
Fox reporter talking about the jingles being sang at the court house! That is very funny. :laugh:
Tom DeLay is a stinker.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/22/2005 @ 12:51 pm PT...
Hehe #14! I forgot about that. THAT was funny!
Joan #13
That's a funny story. You really have a way with words, though. Hey - isn't it about time for a DeLay limerick?
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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des
said on 10/22/2005 @ 12:59 pm PT...
my guess is the corporate media is not gonna touch l'affaire DeLay du Jour with a ten foot pole, not unless they absolutely have to, in a wan sort of CYA as SOP, because they are afraid of getting "Rathergated" (or "swift-boated").
perhaps the pictures need no further explanation, as they speak for themselves, in a way; it seems to me that DeLay has simply gone batshit. he is a little more happy than a man in his situation might want to be perceived as being. unless he knows something we don't, it may be that he has finally and competely lost his mind, after all. is it ever a good idea to be that happy in court? particularly when you're the defendant?
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Joker
said on 10/22/2005 @ 1:16 pm PT...
Joan--the rug is racoon-road-kill--but even Delay has the innocence of having once sucked on his mama's tits-though she probably lived out her years with nipple scarring
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/22/2005 @ 1:17 pm PT...
Des #9 (Enjoyed your assessment!)
Batshit!!! Indeed. What's he guano doo next?
The WHOLE nouveau reich Republican Party is totally BATSHIT.
I'm waiting for the tables to turn on them and for the media to be exposed for their stupidity and their complicity.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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bluebear2
said on 10/22/2005 @ 6:50 pm PT...
This is how it should have looked!
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/22/2005 @ 7:56 pm PT...
Very GOOD!!! Bluebear2 !!! This might be the NEXT one, eh? He won't be able to keep that grin for long if he goes down for his crimes.
PS Thanks for the site, too!
www.rmcgcreative.com
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/22/2005 @ 11:49 pm PT...
Delay's Lawyer is a LIAR!!!
Like client, like lawyer, we always say:
Tom DeLay’s attorney, Dick DeGuerin, claims that the judge presiding over DeLay’s criminal case in Texas, Bob Perkins, should be disqualified. A central part of his claim is that an organization that Perkins has donated to in the past, MoveOn, is selling t-shirts with Tom DeLay’s mug shot ...
... According to MoveOn’s Washington director Tom Mattzie, this claim is false. Mattzie told ThinkProgress this morning that MoveOn has “never sold any t-shirts with Tom DeLay’s mug shot” on their website or otherwise. You can go to their website and see that he’s right. ***more***
Here's Mattzie's statement to the false accusation:
(pdf file) MoveOn.org Action
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/22/2005 @ 11:53 pm PT...
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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bluebear2
said on 10/23/2005 @ 11:00 am PT...
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Nittany Lion
said on 10/24/2005 @ 12:24 pm PT...
#21 Kira,
BREAKING NEWS: A LAWYER LIES WHILE NOT UNDER OATH AND TRIES TO SPIN A SITUATION TO PROTECT HIS CLIENT
For God sakes, the lawyer is just doing his job. But the AP should know better than to take something a lawyer says at face value.
OT: Petition Against the Republican Budget
I went to MoveOn's website to see their statement about the DeLay lawyer and found this petition, with no links or information about the budget that they are smearing. All they do is make a short statement meant to garner opposition than get as many people to write about it as possible. And they call these tax cuts a "reverse Robin Hood budget," further entrenching the myth that tax cuts are meant for ONLY the wealthy. I think they should be stopped from doing these kind of campaigns. I don't ever see Brad trying to use this blog to disinform or to change people's opinions by rhetoric instead of information - MoveOn is just as bad as you claim the MSM is (don't argue me on the MSM, I agree they suck.)
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/24/2005 @ 1:01 pm PT...
Nittany Lion #23
BREAKING NEWS!!! Your attitude fits in perfectly with the neoCON way. NO, my dear, it is NOT a lawyer's job to lie - yes, a lot of lawyers are unethical, but it is NOT in the job description. It is an abuse of power and it is only the unethical and dishonorable who choose that path.
The tax cuts are, most certainly, a reverse Robin Hood disaster for most people (other than the top 1%) in this country. The neoCONs harp on stopping the US from becoming a 'welfare state' while they have turned us into a 'corporate welfare state.' There's no way around it --- you listen to a warped rhetoric designed to fluff-up the bu$h gangsta regime and keep people ignorant of the fact that this country is going down the tubes fast. We may never be able to recover.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/24/2005 @ 1:16 pm PT...
PS Nit --- thanks for posting the link to the petition at MoveOn.org!!
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/24/2005 @ 4:25 pm PT...
Why are Contemporary Republicans So Full of Shit?
Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Republican of Texas, in reference to the Fitzgerald/CIA leak investigation, is quoted as saying that she hoped "that if there is going to be an indictment that says something happened, that it is an indictment on a crime and not some perjury technicality where they couldn't indict on the crime and so they go to something just to show that their two years of investigation was not a waste of time and taxpayer dollars."
Kay Bailey Hutchison voted in favor of both counts of impeachment against Bill Clinton. And even more disturbingly, in the Congressional record dated February 17th, 1999 she states that she DOES NOT hold to the view of our Constitution – that there must be an actual indictable crime in order for an act of a public officer to be impeachable.
**MORE at link**
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 10/25/2005 @ 7:04 am PT...
Kira #24
You are exactly right and Nit is exactly wrong. A lawyer is an officer of the court.
Not only can s/he not commit perjury or lie, they cannot even misrepresent facts to the court, which is not quite lying.
It is contempt of court and can be punished. Cases are reversed every day where one of the lawyers misinforms the court.
Note that prosecutors are lawyers, and if they misrepresent a material fact or fail to provide exculpatory evidence to the defendant (cover up), any conviction can be overturned.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Uncle Bob
said on 10/25/2005 @ 7:08 am PT...
I'm surprised that with all this Delay crap no one mentions something very interesting (at least from my pov):
The "Stand for Israel" group led by rabbi Yechiel Eckstein , "stands 100% behind Delay"...
Master criminal neocon convicted and jews stand 100% behind him?
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Lemmethink_not
said on 10/25/2005 @ 12:17 pm PT...
KIRA Re:# 20, why don't all interested just send DickDeGuerin an email asking the liar where we can find these mug-shot T-shirts so we can buy one...sounds like fun,huh? DDeguerin@aol.com
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Lemmethink_not
said on 10/25/2005 @ 12:22 pm PT...
KIRA #24, DREDD #27, who can we get to prosecute , or do we just hope that the presiding judge slaps him with perjury ?
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Lemmethink_not
said on 10/25/2005 @ 12:23 pm PT...
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Lemmethink_not
said on 10/26/2005 @ 7:25 am PT...
O K, so I email DeGuerin@ DDeguerin@aol.com to ask him where I can find these t-shirts he said were on MoveOn, and he answers back www.pcactionfund.org, so I guess that means you don't need to have your facts straight or conduct yourself in a professional manner ( guess that would be asking alot) when you accuse a judge of anything on national TV, this is pure horse shit, DeGuerin should be held in contempt or charged with perjury or anything else the judge can find to charge him with.
I don't know what he teachs as part of the extended faculty at U of T in Austin, or if he is allowed to teach, unless not staying on point or just pulling supposed facts out of your ass if part of the curriculum or is it applied courtroom circus science that he teaches . This would be like someone telling the court that a woman judge can't hear a case because the defendant is a man or the black judge can't hear a case because the defendant is white...what kind of bull shit is this.....
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 10/26/2005 @ 10:20 am PT...
LemmeThink_Not #30, #33
I noticed this in an article today:
DeLay, accused of masterminding a political fundraising scheme that helped put more Republicans in the Texas Legislature and Congress, contends Perkins is too much of a Democrat to give him a fair trial (link here).
Notice the "too much of a Democrat" phrase. The notion conjures up a soft and puffy world view where you can't be too much of a republican or democrat or independent or green or whatever political party, or you can't be a judge.
The delay mentality is so unamerican and so sick I am wondering why folks everywhere are not calling bu$hit on it.
This is sick. It says americans are so morally and mentally weak they can't be fair because of their political party.
It also says to the tens of thousands of judges that they can only judge in cases where the litigants are of their own political party.
That is pathetically insane.
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Lemmethink_not
said on 10/26/2005 @ 11:06 am PT...
DREDD #34 "That is pathetically insane." Well hell I guess Delay will get off because of mental defect then, huh? That would explain the stupid grin on his face in his smug shot.......His next arguement will be that Duncan is dem also.....I just hope that at 81 years old his mind is sharp as a tack...........
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Terri Schiavo
said on 10/26/2005 @ 12:05 pm PT...
Bubba,
Fuck This Slob Up The Ass For Me To.
Thanks, Terri
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/26/2005 @ 12:53 pm PT...
Just wanted to share this:
Two Wolves
One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.
He said, "My son, the battle is between two "wolves" inside us all.
One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith."
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather:
"Which wolf wins?"
The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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Lemmethink_not
said on 10/26/2005 @ 1:55 pm PT...
#36 KIRA, So true, I like it .................we all need to be careful not to feed the wrong one, and to be careful what our decisions are based upon. as most people tend to make decisions based on vanity, jealousy, lust, greed,or fear.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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dem2505
said on 10/26/2005 @ 2:22 pm PT...
I see this as all the more reason that we need to get all these guys out and get all the Dems in. Sen. Reid's got it right - www.giveemhellharry.com
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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Greg
said on 10/27/2005 @ 4:44 am PT...
So let's count this up. We may have (3) of Bush's group indicted. 3
Now, let's look at Clinton:
http://prorev.com/legacy.htm
RECORDS SET FROM CLINTON.....
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
STARR-RAY INVESTIGATION
- Number of Starr-Ray investigation convictions or guilty pleas (including one governor, one associate attorney general and two Clinton business partners): 14
- Number of Clinton Cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 5
- Number of Reagan cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 4
- Number of top officials jailed in the Teapot Dome Scandal: 3
NATIONAL CONF OF STATE LEGISLATURES
http://www.ncsl.org/prog...egman/elect/hstptyct.htm
http://www.ncsl.org/prog...n/elect/demshare2000.htm
{ed note: Comment shortened, due to copy and paste of entire article. Thanks for providing a link to the site.}
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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bluebear2
said on 10/27/2005 @ 9:34 am PT...
Gregg # 39 Said: (Ran out of memory trying to copy it)
Anyway - is that supposed to be an excuse for Bushco?
What's wrong is wrong regardless of whom.
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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Greg
said on 10/28/2005 @ 8:56 am PT...
Hey BLUEBEAR2,
No, it's not an excuse ... but my point is this: Some, not all, but some liberals from TV, radio and the Internet keep saying that the Bush administration is the most corrupt White House ever ... and convicting everyone before they are charged. The main point being that Bush is liar and corrupt, which is not even close to being true.
Take a look at the link again and read it all.
http://prorev.com/legacy.htm
And I didn't even get into the pardons that Clinton gave the night before he left office.
http://www.time.com/time...cle/0,8599,99302,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/s...ry/0,2933,149345,00.html
NOW READ THIS ONE:
http://jmmartin.redstate...ory/2005/10/28/24523/868
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/28/2005 @ 9:35 am PT...
Greg is obviously clinton-retentive just like most of the reich-wingers who come here hoping to distract from what is current and relevant.
There is no contest when pitting the Clinton administration with the bu$h/neoCON administration as to which one is is/has been more harmful to our country and its Citizens. The current administration will eventually be exposed for its massive corruption. And people like you, Greg, do us no service by keeping your heads buried in the sand.