READER COMMENTS ON
"'Lack of Election Integrity in SC': Rawl's Statement on State Dems Protest Rejection"
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UCC Love-of-Truth Guy
said on 6/18/2010 @ 3:26 pm PT...
Hi again,
Is anyone working on getting more info on the counties where there were soem places with more votes recorded than voters?
That alwasy seems like a no-brainer suggesting fraud.
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Cosimo diRondo
said on 6/18/2010 @ 4:08 pm PT...
A surrender that would make Kerry and Gore proud.
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CharlieL
said on 6/18/2010 @ 4:46 pm PT...
Blah, blah, blah.
"The issues we raised about the lack of election integrity in South Carolina are real, and they are not going away unless people act."
Yeah, except that WE do not have "standing" and he does. So the "people" who can act are HIM, not US, but of course, like so many, bend-over-and-take-it Democrats, he's scared to "rock the boat."
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Floridiot
said on 6/18/2010 @ 5:25 pm PT...
I still don't get it, was Rawl offered a free light plane ride or what?
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camusrebel
said on 6/18/2010 @ 6:19 pm PT...
whoa, whoa, whoa....people, please. Vic Rawl is no Skull-n-Bones co-conspirator Kerry.
Slow down here a minute. Where should our ire be properly directed. I suggest a more logical target would be those 38&1/2 spineless Democrat Executive pussies. Specially the half person.
Rawl is a southern gentleman. A respected judge. In a state where most of his race are off the charts whack job conserva-nazis, he is trying to fight the good fight every day of his life in hostile territory most of us cannot phathom.
We should publish the names of the dirty 38. How many were paid off by Demented? By ES&S. Let's picket THEIR houses, workplaces, churches. Let us temper our rage to a fine boil and direct it to those who truly failed our "democracy" yesterday.
I was as disgusted with the whole process yesterday as anyone. Mostly w/myself for getting my hopes up. But lets imagine how this "race" is going to play out from now until November.
Alvin the Rhodes Scholar/Oracle at Pericles will get more and more exposure. Debates?! TV ads?!
He is the Democratic Party's nominee for United States Senator!!!
Every day from now until November will be a glaring reminder to the entire world that e-voting is flawed beyond fixing. It will be like someone took white out and wrote on Greene's forehead "Hand Counted Paper Ballots Now!"
Hope Demint is happy with his plant, and his vote rigging. But he overstepped. My prediction: if he lasts the whole campaign, in 10 years there will not be an e-vote machine in existence anywhere north of Mexico.
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camusrebel
said on 6/18/2010 @ 6:28 pm PT...
By the same token we should publicly praise by name the seven who stood for sanity.
Also would like to know exactly what was said, by whom, in their private deliberation.
Maybe one of the 7 tape recorded it. Who was the lawyer that adressed them? What firm does he work for and who are is other clients.
Of the dirty 38, how many have spouses or parents of the other party?
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Pathwhisperer
said on 6/19/2010 @ 1:40 pm PT...
I think you all are missing something here, Alvin Greene is almost certainly a sociopath playing a role. He is not an idiot. Rawl should push his objection to the very end.
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Pathwhisperer
said on 6/19/2010 @ 1:44 pm PT...
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Jeannie Dean
said on 6/19/2010 @ 4:15 pm PT...
UCC Love-of-Truth Guy (#1)~
Good question. Following up on those impossible numbers is everything, I think. Problem seems to be we've hit a wall when no one bothers to notice them. Or worse, when they're patently UNWILLING to look at the cheese-cloth strained, well-researched, mountainous, empirical data.
I can tell you that we've found impossible numbers from a lot of different races, from all over the country (incredible dancing numbers in evidence from the 2008 Primaries, fyi) - too many to name, here - and while we've reported them tenaciously to election officials, media pundits, highlighted them in online reports /videos:
(New Hampshire Primary / MANCHESTER WARD 5)
http://www.youtube.com/u...edean#p/u/18/GYz9O_SvIJI
...and Brad recently reporting extensively on thousands of Republican votes disappearing in Monroe Co. AR on the same damn ES&S iVotronics pieces of shit which no one can explain to this day.
https://bradblog.com/?p=7875
...we just can't get that incredible, 'uber imperative-to-obliterating-the-false-narrative' horse any traction, whatsoever.
So, if anyone is following up on those impossible numbers (calling the town clerks to verify possible explanations) that'd be GREAT...but more importantly - how do we bring that critical, all important, FACTUAL data to bear? It is so roundly ignored it's freaky maddening.
It makes me feel a Carny.
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Mark da Shark
said on 6/19/2010 @ 6:07 pm PT...
UCC Love-of-Truth Guy asks, "Is anyone working on getting more info on the counties where there were soem places with more votes recorded than voters?"
The Rawl campaign claimed that this happened in Spartanburg County, but then was forced to recant when their own "panel of experts" found that it did not happen.
That explains why they did not bring it up during the election protest (I watched every painfully slow minute of it too).
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karenfromillinois
said on 6/20/2010 @ 7:23 pm PT...
The Rawl campaign claimed that this happened in Spartanburg County, but then was forced to recant when their own "panel of experts" found that it did not happen.
or the numbers went backwards and fixed themselves like in monroe
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Mark da Shark
said on 6/21/2010 @ 3:44 pm PT...
karenfromillinois said, "or the numbers went backwards and fixed themselves like in monroe"
Local outlets have reported that the Rawl Campaign found that they had made an error and withdrew their claim.
http://www.wyff4.com/news/23874241/detail.html
Further, State Senator Paul Leventis (D-35) sent a letter to the state election commission asking for those machines to be impounded.
Read it here: http://blog.scsenatedems.org/
Then he sent another letter, in which he clarified his statements about Spartanburg County:
"Additional information regarding the published reports I cited in my previous letter of voting irregularities in Spartanburg County has come to my attention. Those reports have been clarified and are no longer accurate. I regret the error."
This letter is linked in a .doc file under the title (about 1/3 way down on the left) "Letter from Sen. Leventis clarifying previous statements about Spartanburg County voting"
http://www.postandcourie...commission-impound-voti/
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Lora
said on 6/21/2010 @ 7:33 pm PT...
OK....So SC Democratic leadership is not interested in the facts.
What if any conclusion can we draw from this?
Here's a question:
Let's say that the candidates were reversed and it was Greene who lodged a protest at the obviously funny vote totals.
What would the SC leadership have done in that instance? IOW, would Rawl have still gone down in flames?
How about a huge write-in campaign for Rawl? If the votes are indeed not what they should be, don't you think there are a lot of disgruntled Democratic voters out there? Wouldn't they be willing to write-in Rawl in the election? And wouldn't that sort of force a paper ballot? Or can you write in electronically these days?
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Mark da Shark
said on 6/21/2010 @ 8:48 pm PT...
Lora said, "How about a huge write-in campaign for Rawl?"
That would be a trick. The only U.S. Senator to ever be elected as a write-in candidate was
then-Democrat Strom Thurmond. Oddly enough, he was from South Carolina.
Can it still happen? Who knows?
I believe these are the requirements to "run" as a write-in candidate.
http://www.state.sc.us/scsec/writein.htm
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truthisall
said on 6/22/2010 @ 2:47 pm PT...
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Lora
said on 6/25/2010 @ 1:54 pm PT...
Thanks, Mark da Shark.
From your link:
There are no filing forms or fees required to run as a write-in candidate.
A defeated primary candidate may not actively offer or campaign as a write-in candidate for the ensuing election.
The use of posters or stickers on the ballot is not permitted.
A voter must cast his write-in ballot in his or her own handwriting or that of a duly
authorized assistant.
Write-in votes are not allowed in primary elections or the election of President or Vice-president. Write-in votes are allowed for all other elections.
One thing I REALLY like about this:
"in his or her own handwriting"
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
These ballots would HAVE to be hand-counted!
So Rawl could not actively campaign....what about the Disgruntled Democrats of South Carolina?
Come ON, folks! Even if you couldn't elect the man, if you made a significant showing it would be egg on the faces of the obnoxious Democratic leadership that saw no evil, heard no evil, but certainly SPOKE evil.
I would do it!