John Farnham @ 1:
You have the temerity to claim to want to "note actual science" and then you offer those three links to support your argument for "background conditions"? Really?
Okay, let's go one-by-one in order of credibility of each link.
--> http://science.nasa.gov/...a/2013/08jan_sunclimate/
Did you even bother to read the story you linked to? It specifically says that the 11-year solar cycle referred to is not believed to have an effect on Global Warming:
--> http://muller.lbl.gov/pa.../history_of_climate.html
This older report by Richard Muller, the Koch-funded scientist and former Global Warming skeptic is belied by his own more recent study, published last year, finding, among other things (in his own words):
Finally...
--> http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/08/moncktonCO2.pdf
Now, it's not that I don't believe a pretend "news site" (WND), which makes it money off of claims that the President is not an American citizen and that his birth certificate is fake, can't offer credible information once in a while. Or that the man (Monckton) who authored the paper you cite, and who previously declared, "there is only one way to stop AIDS. ... quarantine all carriers of the disease for life. ... all those found to be infected with the virus, even if only as carriers, should be isolated compulsorily, immediately, and permanently", and who is funded by mining and coal companies, and who (literally) compares climate scientists to Nazis in his presentations, is a discredited climate science denier. The problem here is none of those.
The problem with the link you cite by the discredited Monckton at the discredited WND, is that it has nothing to do with "background conditions" for Global Warming as you present in your comment above.
If you bothered to even read the abstract for the article you cited (or, hell, even just the title of it!) you'd see that the paper is about whether or not CO2 mitigation policies are cost effective.
Seriously, you denier folks need to try much harder. Or, you can just keep copying and pasting shit that someone else told you to copy and paste without even bothering to spend 30 seconds actually looking into any of it.
Oh, come on Brad. Why do you try to confuse John Farnham with all those facts?
Why disturb the cozy feeling he gets from already having his mind made up?
After all, isn't the whole purpose of swallowing the climate science denial propaganda pill to be found in the fact that it provides comfort in the belief that all is well?