This wouldn't be hard to verify. With so few voters, one could easily interview most of them and get a picture of "what really happened," although some might fib out of embarrassment if you weren't careful:

Pennsylvania

Mercer County

Lark charged that a number of voters may have been disenfranchised by the problems that shut down voting machines for all or most of the day. Some precincts didn't have enough paper ballots for people to fill out, and Lark said he suspects some people didn't bother coming back when a new supply of paper ballots arrived. He had no estimate on how many people may have missed a chance to vote, but he did have some questions Friday about the accuracy of the count coming out of the electronic machines that were working.

Lark cited statistics collected by a poll worker at the Farrell municipal building poll, which showed the voting machine recorded that 289 people cast ballots. The machine, however, recorded a total of 48 votes for U.S. Sen. John Kerry and three votes for George W. Bush in the presidential race. Lark said he finds it difficult to believe that only 51 people out of the 289 who voted actually cast a ballot in the presidential race.

I would like to draw your attention, and your readers' attention, to my journal, in which I just wrote an open letter to the big Dems about the possibility of voter fraud. This letter is my way of doing something about this election. I feel very strongly that something has gone terribly wrong--and that some of us are too afraid to ask for answers.

Here's some of it:

"To John Kerry, John Edwards, their families, and to all the organizations and individuals that lead Democrats, Republicans, and individuals in a fight against George Bush until Wednesday afternoon, November 3, 2004:

Please do not give up on the American people. We have heard you say you have our backs, but the time is now to ask serious questions about what happened in Ohio and Florida this week. It has been argued and accepted by some that exit polls did not match results, and that those exit polls were mistakes. However, today Ohio's Franklin county announced publicly that it accidentally added 3,893 in favor of George W. Bush. In Florida, counties using the Op-Scan electronic voting machines overwhelmingly and surprisingly voted for George W. Bush. If this is voter fraud, it will be the largest case of it in history. Now is the time to take action--or we could lose the Democratic Republic of America."

You can read the rest & sign it here. If you feel the same way that I do, please comment with your name and location. If you feel as strongly as I do, you will either post it on your Livejournal or blog, or link to it. Please let the word get out that these election results are worthy of investigation.

Brad, I believe that what you are doing is vitally important. I believe that we need to get major news attention on this topic as soon as possible, and that is what I am trying to recieve. I am very tired of watching bloggers see all of this happen, and then watching it all fall into oblivion as major news ignores it or pushes it to the back of the papers.

Thanks,

Anne

Check out http://www.democraticunderground.com they have amassed a lot of material about the voting fraud that went on in the election. You'll find a lot of it in the section called "presidential election and discussion", "general discussion" as well as on the front page.
There are also links to back up their information.

Troll, do you get the impression that if things were reversed, let's say, Kerry won 30 states, won by 51 or 52% in the popular vote (won by 3.5 million), won 286 EV, picked up 4 seats in the senate, picked up seats in the house, got rid of a Republican senate leader, etc., do you think this blog would be concerned about Diebold, ESS, and voting machines? I think we all t he answer to do that.

Sure there are and will be problems with 115+ million people voting but all of that will be sorted out and we will get the true final numbers. It won't change the outcome.

To Anne:
> or we could lose the Democratic Republic of America."

Dearest Anne, we at not a Democratic Republic. We are a Representative Republic. Go read the constitution. We have democratic elections. The left loves to say Democratic Republic but they are incorrect. I expect arguments to the contrary to appear.

I believe if Kerry won the way Bush won, this blog would be having a party that Bush is gone and the headline might read "The People Spoke!"

The people did speak! It’s time to "move On."

Signing off from the blog for good because our work is done! Thanks Troll for all of your great comments! And to all of the other conservatives and Republicans and conservative Democrats who were right!

Anne, don't you love it how people like Paul use "dearest" in the most condescending of tones when replying to strong and self-confident women such as yourself? Personally, it drives me crazy especially when I've come to realize that ONLY so-called republican men seem to have this testosterone infested attitude towards women.

Paul, just because she's a woman, it doesn't give you the right to "dearest" her. You ignorant bastard. (Sorry brad).

Anyway, I'm going to quote a very wise American man to you all. Hope you'll enjoy the quote as much as the Canadian public recently did.

"Were I a Kerry voter, though, I'd feel deep anger, not only at them returning Bush to power, but for allowing the outside world to lump us all into the same category of moronic muppets.

The self-righteous, gun-totin', military lovin', sister marryin', abortion-hatin', gay-loathin', foreigner-despisin', non-passport ownin' red-necks, who believe God gave America the biggest dick in the world so it could urinate on the rest of us and make their land "free and strong".

You probably won't be surprised to learn of would-be Oklahoma Republican Senator Tom Coburn who, on Tuesday, promised to ban abortion and execute any doctors who carried them out.

He also told voters that lesbianism is so rampant in the state's schools that girls were being sent to toilets on their own. Not that any principal could be found to back him up.

These are the people who hijack the word patriot and liken compassion to child-molesting. And they are unknowingly bin Laden's chief recruiting officers.

Al-Qaeda's existence is fuelled by the outpourings of America's Christian right. Bush is its commander-in-chief. And he and bin Laden need each other to survive.

Both need to play Lex Luther to each others' Superman with their own fanatical people. Maybe that's why the mightiest military machine ever assembled has failed to catch the world's most wanted man.

Or is the reason simply that America is incompetent? That behind the bluff they are frightened and clueless, which is why they've stayed with the devil they know.

VISITORS from another planet watching this election would surely not credit the amateurism.

The queues for hours to register a tick; the 17,000 lawyers needed to ensure there was no cheating; the $1.2bn wasted by parties trying to discredit the enemy; the allegations of fraud, intimidation and dirty tricks; the exit polls which were so wildly inaccurate; an Electoral College voting system that makes the Eurovision Song Contest look like a beacon of democracy and efficiency; and the delays and the legal wrangles in announcing the victor.

Yet America would have us believe theirs is the finest democracy in the world. Well, that fine democracy has got the man it deserved. George W Bush. "

And then Troll wonders why Michael Moore is loved by the rest of the world. Maybe it's because he fucking respects us. (sorry again Brad).

Now that we know what can I do to help?

Hi Brad --- invaluable work!! Thanks so much. I've been lobbying friends and my husband hard to pay attention to these e-voting machines for months, and now that the election is over and it's clear that SOMETHING happened and we owe it to ourselves and our kids to find out what, it's still hard to push past their apathy. I'm still willing to fight it out. I had a conversation with a sceptical lawyer friend who said this:
"This higher than expected data is equivocal. It either indicates that more republicans in fact voted than expected, or that there were more republican votes counted than voted. The truth of this is easy enough to check out by the exit rolls at the polls. Every voter is checked in and out by bipartisan election officials when they enter and exit the polls. Those logs are public records (available through freedom of information requests), and the number of republican votes counted can be compared with the number of republicans/independents (or for that matter , democrats) who actually showed up to vote at the polls. Tell your sources to go run those comparisons if they are interested in the truth rather than speculation."
My feeling is that these comparisons have already taken place. And if so, where are the results? Anyone? Anyone?
Thanks,
Ann

Dem fought like hell before the election to make sure there was no poll watchers. Now they are fighting like hell against voter fraud.

You lost. Get over it.

Brad,

Do you seriously expect people to believe that all this isnt because your against Bush, but rather just want to ensure a fair process? You know, people can actually read. They seeyour anti-Bush crap acorss the board and are very well aware of you one and only motive.

Sucks to be you.

uh, no, actually, i don't think it 'sucks' to be us at all. but thanks anyway for trying that cute little junior high comeback.

the fact is, no one will ever know for sure what we Dems would have said had the election gone our way. i'd like to think that if there were multiple examples of widespread voting machine MALFUNCTION that EVERY AMERICAN would be interested in seeing that all of the problems are solved in such a vital system.

but clearly, that isn't the case. the Repubs won, and *apparently* they DON'T want to make sure every vote is secure, they DON'T care about the security of our elections or our voting systems.

so we'll never know for sure what the Dems would have done, but we now have a very clear picture of what the Repubs would do --- they are clearly not interested in the truth, and are not interested in working to ensure the integrity of our voting systems for the future.

why are you guys so afraid of the truth?

Brad,

Nice continued work with this... a pessimist by nature, I had my doubts that this path would lead anywhere, but you've proven me wrong. While I wait for your promised Action Items, I came across a couple of pieces critical of the work that you and the rest of the blog community has done with this election.

http://www.cbsnews.com/s...opinion/main654285.shtml

The writer is definitely NOT a fan of the new media reporting, but being an "old school" journalist, its to be expected.

Brad excuse me for a minute.

GOP & huh,
Apparenylt you dim witted little people do not have the first clue to what is going on in this world. How can you tell me that it is ok if OBL tampered with this election? Do you not remember Nixon and Wategate? Or are you a Rapitalist who worships your God Almighty Dollar who would sell your grandma on the street to supply you that dollar you need to get your fix?

Now I am not for no one being able to speak out on a subject intellegent, but do your kin folks a favor and stop showing us how stupid you are on subjects of National Security.

Have A Nice Day!

Again, Brad and others I appologize; however, I do believe that there are enough IDIOTS in this country that does not understand that we have a government that is not made up of who blew who.

There are plenty of reasons to be concerned about the election results, but not about the "discrepancy" between expected and actual votes in heavily Democratic counties in Florida that use ES&S optical scan voting machines. All of these counties are in the Panhandle or rural/central Florida. In these counties, the Democrats are Democrats in name only --- they have overwhelmingly voted for Republican presidential candidates since 1992. For more information, see More on optical scan results in Florida and Did Republicans steal the Florida election by rigging optical scan voting machines?, both at the Blue Bunny of Battle --- which, incidentally, is ferociosly pro-Democrat. His Rabbitness happens to believe, though, that we do not advance our cause by making baseless allegations...

I am very disturbed by the fact that this election and the previous one were rigged. Data on Florida and Ohio show more votes going to Bush in certain precincts than registered voters!! These were not isolated instances. There is a certain sanctity of the election process and it has been violated and no one seems to be doing anything about it!!! I have called elected officials and the DNC - guess what they said, oh well, better luck next time. To unify the country they aren't going to do anything about it!! Guess what morons, there will not be a next time - the system is in place!!! Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. said " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."

Keith Oberman did a report on this last night:
http://homepage.mac.com/...sh/iMovieTheater270.html

http://www.wral.com/news/3901283/detail.html

Carteret Voting Issues Could Lead To Special Election
Officials Blame Voting Machine; Close To 12,000 Votes Feared Lost

POSTED: 6:27 pm EST November 8, 2004
CARTERET COUNTY, N.C. --- Election officials in Carteret County are scrambling after a machine malfunction destroyed 13 percent of the ballots. The incident may lead to a special election in the state superintendent race that currently has Democrat June Atkinson ahead of Republican Bill Fletcher by more than 2,000 votes.

Provisional Ballots Might Keep Wake From Meeting State Election Deadline

POSTED: 5:05 pm EST November 8, 2004
UPDATED: 6:54 am EST November 9, 2004
RALEIGH, N.C. --- Provisional ballots are used when there's a question about a voter's address or correct precinct. This year, more than 75,000 voters statewide cast provisional ballots.

That's twice as many as ever before --- and it could delay the results for several close races.

That is the exact attitude that lost you the election. You call the majority of the country dim witted. You talk down the the entire middle of the country, attack religion and when you lose you sit around and scratch you head and assume it must have been voter fraud because you feel better that way.

What you need to accept is that the majority of people in this country disagree with you. They believe you are wrong on issue after issue. you thought you could attack all these groups and win. Guess what, ITS OVER.

I WIN, CRY some 'MOORE' babies.

The democratic party is the part of exclusion. They do not welcome people into their tent. Instead they call them stupid and insult them

Have you ever seen the county by county electoral map? Its almost all red with very little blue here and there. Now, you guys represent the far left of what little blue there is on the map.

You are so far out of the majority, its amazing how you can possibly think you are correct. Look how many people, even in your own party, think you are wrong.

Re: Paul's comment "do you get the impression that if things were reversed, let's say, Kerry won 30 states, won by 51 or 52% in the popular vote (won by 3.5 million), won 286 EV, picked up 4 seats in the senate, picked up seats in the house, got rid of a Republican senate leader, etc., do you think this blog would be concerned about Diebold, ESS, and voting machines? I think we all t he (sic) answer to do that."

Well, Paul: the answer to that would actually be no. Speaking for Brad, I'm sure his blog would be concerned about all of the Republican lawyers fighting that outcome tooth and nail until they were able to get their friends in the Supreme Court to make a decision.

Gore was the first presidential candidate in history to sue (three counties in a state). You guys started all of this. Nixon could have, but he didn't. I have always said, if Kerry wins, Kerry wins. It's that simple! No conspiracy theories! No cry babying!

The Reason why the Supreme Court has more conservatives is because conservatives were in power when vacancies occurred! The will of the people - Reagan, Bush 41, etc. Get over it!

You guys are such incredible sore losers!

i would have thought you guys on the Right would care about what's RIGHT --- make sure that our voting machines actually work *accurately* before we commit our entire election system, and then actually, for once, count every vote. we can put a man on the moon but we can't manage to make a secure voting system that the people can trust?

this is the second national election in which the Right has proven that they only really care about winning, not about the truth. it's moral relativism, all over again, and not surprising in the least.

again, why are you guys so afraid of the truth?

Forwarded to me this morning by a very good friend.. someone far more active than myself and gave her time to monitor the election in PA.
--

This is from the new Bernstein biography of Thomas Jefferson. Here is part of a letter he sent in 1798 after the passage of the Sedition Act:

"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt. . . . If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake."

Paul, go learn some history. And this time, not from Rush or Sean.

Who brought "Bush v Gore"? HINT: It wasn't Gore.

Heres some truth for you des.

BUSH WON.

More!

2. Negative Totals Added for Democrats in 2000 & 2004

Could a voting machine be programmed so sloppily that it would report a value of –16,022 votes? How about –25,000?

Florida, 2000: Something very strange happened on election night to Deborah Tannenbaum, a Democratic Party official of Volusia County. At 10 p.m., she
called the county elections department and found that Al Gore was leading George W. Bush 83,000 votes to 62,000 votes. But when she checked the county’s Web site for an update half an hour later, she found a startling development: Gore’s count had dropped by 16,000 votes, while an obscure Socialist candidate had picked up 10,000 - all because of a single precinct
with only 600 voters. [Ultimately the 16,022 votes deducted from Gore was returned to his total --- but not until after CBS called Florida for Bush.]

Ohio Stolen (blog entry, gnn.tv) 2004-11-03 16:26:30
"Greg Palast and Randi Rhodes reported today that the state of Ohio was stolen by the Republicans in election 2004. Ohio was the critical state that tipped the balance, giving the presidency to Bush. Turns out one County in Ohio, equipped with Diebold electronic voting machines, reported NEGATIVE 25,000 votes. Wha?!? That’s what at least one election official in Ohio
said. The votes from that County are lost. Not counted. GONE!"

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3. Cases in which the number of votes does not equal the number of voters:

Florida, 2004: According to the official election results posted on the Palm Beach County election website, 542,835 ballots were cast for a presidential candidate while only 454,427 voters turned out for the election (including absentee). This leaves a discrepancy of 88,408 votes cast for the presidential candidates.

If you go to the Florida Dept of State Website and add up the numbers for yourself, it looks very strange. Total Number of Voters including Absentees: 7350900. Total Number of Votes for President: 7588422. Where did they get 237,522 extra votes? It wasn't from the provisionals. There are 9,559 provisional ballots, and 7,362 have been counted so far.

The 13 counties in Florida that report more votes than voters delivered 39.4% of the votes cast in Florida. Link

Pennsylvania (2004): Lark cited statistics collected by a poll worker at the Farrell municipal building poll, which showed the voting machine recorded that 289 people cast ballots. The machine, however, recorded a total of 48 votes for U.S. Sen. John Kerry and three votes for George W. Bush in the presidential race. Lark said he finds it difficult to believe that only 51 people out of the 289 who voted actually cast a ballot in the presidential
race. The end of the ballot contained a municipal consolidation issue, and the machine showed that 240 people cast a ballot on that item, he said. Even
the county's Web site appeared to show a similar conflict, reporting that 51,818 people cast ballots but 47,768 ballots were recorded in the presidential race, including 61 write-ins. It would appear that about 4,000 votes could be unaccounted for. LINK

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4. Discrepancies between voter registration and voting pattern

In Florida, small counties with Optiscan voted overwhelming for Bush completely at odds with registration. In Baker County, for example, with
12,887 registered voters, 69.3% of them Democrats and 24.3% of them Republicans, the vote was only 2,180 for Kerry and 7,738 for Bush, the opposite of what is seen everywhere else in the country where registered Democrats largely voted for Kerry. In Dixie County, with 4,988 registered voters, 77.5% of them Democrats and a mere 15% registered as Republicans,
only 1,959 people voted for Kerry, but 4,433 voted for Bush. The pattern repeats over and over again - but only in the smaller counties.

The first graphs: LINK

Several additional graphs: LINK

Statistically significant interaction between type of machine & votes cast for Kerry/Bush: LINK

Scatterplots & more statistical analyses: LINK and LINK

NOT CONSIDERED BY ABC-NEWS:
In Duval Co. Fl 219,251 votes for Bush, only 190,111 registered Republicans
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5. Discrepancies between exit polls and tabulated votes

Jonathan Simon of Alliance for Democracy analyzed the difference between exit polls % for each candidate and tabulated votes. Of the 12 critical (swing) states analyzed, 11 out of 12 show a “red shift” – the difference between exit polls and tabulated votes favors Bush by an average of 2.5%. Of the 35 non-critical states, 26/35 show a “red shift” – by an average of 1.4% in favor of Bush. Thus, exit polling appears inexplicably to have been significantly more accurate in nonbattleground states, than in the states that were crucial to a Bush victory.

He further notes, "In the group of 12 critical states selected for analysis, exit poll vs. tabulated vote shifts exceeded the polls' margin of error in 4 cases”. The probability that one state would exceed the margin of error is less than 5% (p

LINK

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6. Discrepancies between voting pattern for president & other races/issues

The Kerry-Salazar Divide (2004) - In Colorado, Democrat Salazar has 1,023,803 votes while Republican Pete Coors received 944,520. Bush supposedly got 1,058,040 while Kerry received 944,052 votes. LINK

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7. These numbers simply don’t add up

Reflections on the 2004 Elections, by Alex Satanovsky

In 2000 Al Gore received 51.00 million votes, in 2004 Kerry only received 55.7 million. A CNN exit poll showed that out of the minority of 3.87 million people who voted for any third party in 2000, 71% voted for Kerry this time around. That equals to about 2.75 million voters. So again, adding this figure to Gore’s total of 51.00 million in 2000 shows that Kerry
would have had 53.5 – 53.75 million votes in this election regardless of any new voter support. Therefore, according to the official results, the Kerry
campaign was only able to capture no more than 2 million new voters to get him to his total of 55.7 million this past election.

On the other hand, President Bush received only 50.45 million votes in 2000, but now the official results show him having 59.3 million votes. That’s nearly 9 million new voters that turned out for him. Very impressive isn’t it? Remember listening to all the pundits talking about how both sides are planning to register new voters? Remember the hundreds of thousands of new
registrations in urban areas in swing states that were overwhelmingly concentrated in Democratic strongholds. This was a well-documented issue and a cause for concern for the Republicans who consequently insisted on challenging voters in urban minority districts. The exit polls didn’t exactly show a Kerry landslide among new voters, but they did show him with a comfortable 54-45 majority among those who did not vote in 2000. LINK

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8. A suspicious pattern of Republican upsets in Diebold Voting Machine states in past elections:

Poll by Atlanta Journal Constitution on Nov. 1 for Georgia Senate revealed Cleland (D) over Chambliss ( R ) by 5%. Results from Diebold Electronic Voting Machines' on Nov. 5: Max Cleland (D) 46%; Saxby Chambliss 53%.

Poll by Atlanta Journal Constitution/WSB-TV of 800 likely voters on Nov. 1 For Georgia Governor: Roy Barnes (D) over Sonny Perdue (R) by 11%. Results
from Diebold Electronic Voting Machines' Nov. 5: Roy Barnes (D) 46%; Sonny Perdue (R) 51%.

Minneapolis Star-Tribune Poll on Nov. 3 for Minnesota Senate: Walter Mondale (D) over Norm Coleman by 5%. Results from Diebold Electronic Voting Machines
Nov. 5: Norm Coleman (R) 50%; Walter Mondale (D) 47%.

Poll by MSNBC/Zogby on Nov. 3 for Colorado Senate: Strickland (D) over Allard by 9%. Results from Diebold Electronic Voting Machines' Nov. 5: Tom Strickland (D) 46%; Wayne Allard (R) 51%

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9. Diebold and ES&S Deliver Votes for Bush in Florida & Ohio 2004

This is an excellent analysis of differences in voting pattern between Florida counties using voting machines from different companies – compares Diebold and ES&S (both Republican ‘owned’) and Sequoia Systems. Much less information about Ohio available, but results are similar to Florida pattern. LINK

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10. Third party candidates do remarkably (suspiciously) well

Lucas County, Ohio (2004): With 6.05% of precincts reporting the Official Ohio Election site shows David Cobb with 4,685 votes; George Bush with 1,917
votes, and John Kerry with 0 votes. With 100% of precincts reporting the Official Ohio Election site shows John Kerry with 128,874 votes; George Bush with 85,405 votes; and David Cobb with 0 votes.

Hamilton County, Ohio (2004): With 11.25% of precincts reporting David Cobb has 39,541 votes, John Kerry has 39,541 votes, and George Bush has 34,801
votes. The Official Ohio Election site shows (with 100% of precincts reporting) that George Bush leads with 215,639 votes; John Kerry has 190,956 votes; and David Cobb has 0 votes. LINK

Calfornia (2003): Figures show a skim of votes from top D candidate to people who were unlikely to affect the outcome. [Article author] added all the votes cast/counted on Diebold equipment for each candidate and expressed it as a percentage of their total votes cast state wide. Counties using Diebold equipment: Alameda, Plumas, Fresno, Humboldt, Kern, Lassen, Marin, Placer, San Joaquin, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Trinity, Tulare. These counties are spread fairly evenly across the state and include both urban and rural counties.

17.89% of the total votes cast in the California state election were cast on Diebold equipment. Alls things being equal each candidate should receive about 16-18% of their vote total from the Diebold machines. The two major candidates (Schwarzenegger - 16.83% & Bustamonte - 18.78%) fit this profile. Many other 3rd party candidates do not: Palmieri (68.3%) of his total vote on the Diebold equipment; Kunzman received 91.75% of his total vote on the Diebold equipment; Sprague (65.10%); Macaluso (39.36%); Price (47.18%); Quinn (50.8%); Martorana (28%). LINK

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11. The National Election Pool – Unlike any exit poll I ever imagined

The Voter News Service (VNS) has provided accurate election poll results for state and national races for decades. (It even correctly called Florida for Gore in 2000). It was disbanded after the 2002 election. Its functions were assumed by the National Election Pool (NEP) comprised of the AP and Edison/Mitofsky.

According to one source: Edison Media Research has a direct connection to county election results across the country via computer modems. Exit poll results were combined with (and thus contaminated by) vote tabulations.

Edison/Mitofsky will conduct exit polls in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. In addition, it will collect the vote count in sample precincts. From the exit polls it will provide analytical tabulations of vote. It will make projections, where possible, from the exit polls, from the vote returns and from the county vote tabulations for President, Senate, Governor and selected state referenda and initiatives. LINK

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12. Fluctuations in election pool results over time – improbable/impossible

Ohio (2004): State exit polls reported by CNN at 12:21 a.m. show Kerry leading Bush by 4%. The number of voters polled = 1,963. At 1:41 a.m. Bush
was reported to be leading Kerry by 2.5%. Problem? Only 2,020 voters were included in the 1:41 a.m. poll results – an increase of 57 voters. Fifty-seven voters (2.8% of 2,020 voters) cannot change an exit poll result
by 6.5%. Further, based on the results reported at 12:21 a.m. 551 women reported that they had voted for Kerry. Somehow, by 1:41 am that number had
changed – only 535 women had voted for Kerry. LINK

LINK

Florida: State exit polls reported by CNN at 8:40 p.m. show Kerry running even with Bush (2,846 voters polled). At 1:01 a.m. Bush was leading Kerry by 4% (2,862 voters polled). Their survey increased by 16 more voters between 8:40 and 1:01 am (0.55% of respondents) – and this produced a 4% swing for
Bush. LINK

First, Second, Third Election Polls. Even the later (more accurate?) polls show Kerry winning Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. LINK

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13. Explaining the Discrepancy between election poll results & tabulated votes

THOSE FAULTY EXIT POLLS WERE SABOTAGE - According to Dick Morris (Republican Strategist) "Exit polls are almost never wrong... So reliable are the
surveys that actually tap voters as they leave the polling places that they are used as guides to the relative honesty of elections in Third World countries... But this Tuesday, the networks did get the exit polls wrong. Not just some of them. They got all of the Bush states wrong. So, according to ABC-TV’s exit polls, for example, Kerry was slated to carry Florida, Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada and Iowa, all of which Bush carried. The only swing state the network had going to Bush was West Virginia, which the president won by 10 points. To screw up one exit poll is unheard of. To miss
six of them is incredible. It boggles the imagination how pollsters could be that incompetent and invites speculation that more than honest error was at play here. ...the possibility of biased exit polling, deliberately manipulated to try to chill the Bush turnout, must be seriously considered. This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong across the board as they were on election night. I suspect foul play. LINK

THE POLLING: REPORT SAYS SAMPLING LED TO SKEWED DATA. The new $10 million polling system used by many news organizations to predict the outcome of the presidential race had a number of problems that led to the early erroneous impression that John Kerry was heading for victory, according to a report prepared by the system's architects. Since Tuesday, the networks have played down errors caused by the system. "The last wave of national exit polls we
received, along with many other subscribers, showed Kerry winning the popular vote by 51 percent to 48 percent, if true, surely enough to carry the Electoral College,'' Steve Coll, managing editor of The Washington Post, wrote in an online chat with readers Wednesday.
http://nytimes.com/2004/...s/campaign/05poll....

EVIDENCE OF A SECOND BUSH COUP? The author, Robert Parry, broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in1980s for AP and Newsweek. But the most perplexing
fact is that exit polls into the evening of Nov. 2 showed Kerry rolling to a clear victory nationally and carrying most of the battleground states, including Florida and Ohio, whose totals would have ensured Kerry’s victory in the Electoral College. Significantly, polls also showed Republicans carrying the bulk of the tight Senate races. However, when the official results were tallied, the presidential exit polls proved wrong while the Senate polls proved right. Through the late afternoon, exit polls did show Kerry’s lead in some swing states shrinking, For instance, his lead in Ohio slipped from four points to one point. In Florida, his lead dropped from three points to one point. However, his edge in the popular vote seems to have held fairly steady at about three percent. Again - The author, Robert Parry, broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in1980s for AP and Newsweek. LINK

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14. Election by embezzlement – voter suppression + vote hacking = ?

Will provide info on voter suppression here. In the meantime, Check Democracy South & NAACP.

target="_blank">“Twelve Ways Bush is now Stealing the Ohio Vote”

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15. HOW to hack the vote

For those of you who do not know - data (ie votes) from the Diebold and ES&S touchscreen E-Voting machines and Optiscan machines are sent via modem to a "central tabulation machine" - an ordinary PC. The precinct supervisor sees the results displayed on a normal computer monitor screen --- but behind this "pretty picture" lies the program that makes it work: a simple conventional Microsoft Access Database program which can easily be entered via the "Start" button (then "Programs" ....etc...) in person or "remotely".
These machines were used in 80% of the US. A few clicks and you are into Access and can pull up the votes tabulated database and then by cutting/pasting you can change votes from one candidate to the other. Click
below to watch a demonstration with Howard Dean that appeared on nationally syndicated TV show "Voter Gate - The Movie."

Votergate: The Movie is at http://www.votergate.org

Diebold GEMS Central Tabulator Contains Stunning Security Hole LINK

The Theft of Your Vote Is Just a Chip Away LINK

Hacking the Presidency LINK

Evoting News & Analysis from the Experts LINK

November Surprise LINK

The Case of the Diebold FTP Site LINK

I love watching you libs try to justify your loss. Its makes winning so much bettter.

Oh jeez. Im sorry. Maybe you democrats dont understand why Bush won. You see, he got more votes. And in an election the guy/girl who gets more votes wins.

All clear on this now?

Whether this blog and the Democrats would be mute if the Kerry/Bush situation were reversed is irrelevant. Doesn't matter who's in the wrong. Wrong is wrong, and the wronged must insure that justice is done.

Paul's position is that of a bank robber who attempts to escape prosecution by exclaiming "If YOU robbed a bank, you'd be trying to get off too, just like me, so get off my case! "

One who believes his or her candidate won fair and square will welcome investigation. One who fears his or her party cheated will castigate doubters and vehemently attempt to discourage investigation - as the Republicans and right wing posters to this blog are doing now.

"You lost. Get over it." is exactly what the Republicans said after the 2000 election, but that turned out to be wrong: Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris broke the law and stole the election. Gore won, and maybe Kerry did too.

Warren O'Dell and Diebold did deliver Ohio for Bush.

No iti didnt turn out to be wrong and it isnt wrong now. Bush won the popular vote by 3.5 million. In 2000 thats all we heard from democrats. Now they all of a sudden dont care. He also won the elctoral votes. His coattails also won congress and governerships.

It was an ass whipping. All the scandal theories in the word wont change that. Kerry isnt even disputing it or anyone from his party.

Do you think if what you said had any merit the democrats would leave it up to the bloggers to handle?

You guys are crazy. Seriously, you need to move on. Get some professional help. Im being serious. You have a problem.

Thanks for setting us straight Ricky, LOLOL and GOP. You guys are a real inspiration with your "Na-na-na, boo-boo" attitude.

I can't wait until you realize how badly you messed up. In the meantime, keep on being hypocrites. Bush would be proud.

Two quotes from our republican friends:

"The democratic party is the part of exclusion. They do not welcome people into their tent. Instead they call them stupid and insult them ."

AND

"You guys are crazy. Seriously, you need to move on. Get some professional help. Im being serious. You have a problem. "

Yup. You republicans are PERFECT.

We are not afraid to count votes. They have been counted and are still being counted and will be verified by each states verification date.

If there really is this many discrepancies, then it will all be worked out in the end. Here is a nice little article on it:

http://abcnews.go.com/WN...ory?id=239735&page=1

"Conspiracy Theories Abound After Bush Victory: Web Sites, E-mails Conjure Phantom Voters, Invented Malfeasance"

"In regard to Lafayette County, one of the counties in question, it is true that there are far more registered Democrats in that county than Republicans (3,570 to 570, respectively), and that the county elected Bush in this year's election, but the county elected Bush in the last election, too.
Four years before that, the Republican presidential candidate, Bob Dole, won in Lafayette County as well, as did the first President Bush four years before that. "

"Rep. Kendrick Meek, the co-chair of the Kerry campaign in Florida, says he knows why Bush was re-elected, and it has nothing to do with fraud."

"We did a good job, but the other side did a better job," he said.

"Before the election in many places you saw people questioning the process because they were concerned about the result," said Chapin. "And now there are people looking at the result and using that as a basis to question the process."

The article gives other examples.

A little fun:

Here are some choices for those who are upset at the election results:

1. Move to Canada
2. Commit suicide (location of your choice)
3. Get a real job
4. Continue with conspiracy theories
5. Seek counseling
6. Get over it
7. Go on with your lives

A little history lesson here:

George W. Bush was the president between 2000 and 2004. George W. Bush will be the president between 2004 and 2008. Al Gore was not the president between 2000 and 2004. Al Gore sued three counties in Florida first and Bush had to counter sue.

JFK in 1960 won the popular vote by almost the same number that Bush won in Ohio in 2004. Nixon could have sued because lots of dead people voted in Chicago. Nixon did not sue which means he had more class than Al Gore.

Opinion:

Bush won in a blowout! If Hitler was on the ballot, Hitler would have gotten the same amount of votes as Kerry did because it was "Anyone But Bush."

Dearest Mrs. J - You are not an American and you didn't vote, so your opinion is meaningless.

One more from the Gipper:

During the memorial service for Ronald Reagan, you probably noticed that Bill and Hillary were both dozing off.

President Ronald Reagan, who never misses a chance for a good one-liner, raised his head out of his casket and said...

"I see the Clinton's are finally sleeping together."

Paul, I dare you to call me "dearest" one more time. No really. Try it.

As for my "meaningless" opinion - keep on burning your bridges buddy. It must be lonely where you are. I really couldn't care less if you care about my opinion or not. I have every right to be here, so you can kiss my "dearest" ass.

As for anyone who wants to move to Canada, as long as you're not Paul, c'mon over. The more the merrier.

Dearest Mrs J,

I wouldn't move to your marginalized do nothing but complain about everything country if you paid me 100 million dollars.

Dearest Mrs. J - I plan to move to Canada and date your best female friend.

Thanks, Brad, for all your hard work. I read about your site on eRiposte, and I'm impressed. It really is the best blog of its kind. I'll link to you on my own site, The Shameless Antagonist.

Of course, conservatives are threatened by your work. You've presented a comprehensive list of voting irregularities, and the more the evidence mounts, the more they'll attack you personally. Their ad hominem attacks reflect their own inadequacy as critical thinkers. They're afraid, and they should be. They know that if voter suppression, intimidation and true "equal protection" existed, Kerry would be president. Let's continue to bring the heat. The results haven't been certified yet, and shouldn't be. This isn't over.

Thanks, Brad, for all your hard work. I read about your site on eRiposte, and I'm impressed. It really is the best blog of its kind. I'll link to you on my own site, The Shameless Antagonist.

Of course, conservatives are threatened by your work. You've presented a comprehensive list of voting irregularities, and the more the evidence mounts, the more they'll attack you personally. Their ad hominem attacks reflect their own inadequacy as critical thinkers. They're afraid, and they should be. They know that if voter suppression, intimidation and true "equal protection" existed, Kerry would be president. Let's continue to bring the heat. The results haven't been certified yet, and shouldn't be. This isn't over.

Thanks for the kind words, Steve. It's not over by a long shot. We find democracy impressive and worth fighting to maintain.

Mrs. J - Paul has been put on notice, and I'm hopeful he will figure out how to reach into his "christian" heart and find some of those "moral values" we've heard so much about and treat others with a bit of decency and respect.

Ricky/LOLOL/GOP (all the same person) was given several warnings to post under a single name and he ignored them all, so while I won't miss his obnoxious posts, I'm sorry he won't be making them as frequently here anymore. He was removed for being unwilling to respect the very few rules of the joint, not for his opinions, wrong as they might have been.

(Contact me by Email if you wish to discuss that Ricky/LOLOL/GOP).

Thanks all of you for your continued support, tips and feedback! Keep 'em coming and keep spreading the good word!

I've linked to you once, and will soon add a new one-my new blog

http://whoreallywon.blogspot.com/

which is a 'greatest hits' version of the FLA/OH 'isolated incidents'....

Brad,

Nader and Cobb could use everyone's help to pursue recounts in New Hampshire and Ohio!

Ralph Nader is getting his recount in New Hampshire. I think this is a great role for Nader: he's at his best defending citizens' rights.

Now it looks like David Cobb and the Green Party might call for a recount in Ohio, according to Keith Olbermann at MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6368819/#0411010c)

There's one catch: both candidates will be forced to pay for the recounts themselves. They are doing it for the principle, of course, because there have been so many incidents of vote count problems and possible tampering. Since the Kerry campaign won't call for recounts, these third-party candidates might have to stand up for us all.

If either recount finds evidence of tampering or gross inaccuracies, it could trigger recounts in other swing states.

Please put aside any animosities you hold toward these third party candidates. They are fighting a fight that could lead to great things for Kerry and the Democrats.

If you want to see these recounts happen please help Ralph Nader at www.votenader.org and David Cobb and the Green Party at www.gp.org.

More details here: http://rantworld.blogs.c.../11/new_hampshire_a.html

Thanks,
Rob D.

Thanks, Rob. Yes, that was one of the major stories I got late last night, and planned on reporting this afternoon. Trying to nail down a few more details from a source or two, and then will be running it very shortly!

I agree whole-heartedly with ya!

Paul,

No wonder you are stupid enough to vote republican. WHy do you claim to want to teach people history and yet, in your very first lesson, you get the facts wrong?

The link below is very disturbing to me.

Peter King (Republican Rep. in New York) says "It's over. The election's over. We've won." He's then asked, "How do you know that?" Cuz it's all over but the countin'"... and We'll take care of the countin'"

Here is the link:

http://homepage.mac.com/...sh/iMovieTheater256.html

yes, that clip, from Alexandra Pelosi's HBO documentary, "Diary of a Political Tourist", can be accessed here on the Brad Blog. it's the last entry for Monday, November 8th.

King's off-the-cuff comment is, indeed, very disturbing.

Brad,

You're doing a fantastic job blogging about this crisis. I just found out about your blog on daily kos (which except for certain diarists is NOT doing a fantastic job).

Keep it up!
Peace
Why Are We Back In Iraq?

I voted in Downtown Toledo, Ohio. The African American lady behind me had problems deciding who to vote for so she went to the African American lady who signed us in and was given a Lucas County Democrate slate of who to vote for. I wasn't the only one who witnesses this going on. Handing out democratic slates to African American voters in the polls by poll workers it seems is a regular occurance.

Something I think we need to look at, although no one is likely to want to see, is why we keep showing the world our worst side? I mean, Bush does represent us...the worst in us. How many of us complain about corporations' destruction or pollution of the environment, but continue to lead lifestyles that support those very corporations? How worried are we about global warming, as we drive gasoline-powered vehicles, instead of refusing to pay into that system and riding bikes, walking, and using mass-transit? We worry about Walmart driving out small business, but we shop there for their low prices that make it possible for us to consume even more of everything they sell, made by corporations that recklessly pollute, waste, and employ slave-labour. We know they pay their employees poverty wages, but we continue to shop there. We give them the money they need to do what they do.

How can we blame Bush for sending our troops to kill people we don't want killed, and get killed, when we pay taxes and don't say "no, we won't go. This war isn't right, and I won't go kill these people for your oil profits." If all those soldiers had said "no" just how many of them would have been injured or killed in this war? Many of them knew it was a bad war, but still followed orders. Many of them didn't know it was a bad war, and wrong, and that's worse. We failed to teach our young right from wrong.

How many times have I accidentally or carelessly cut someone off in traffic because I was in a hurry. So the person I cut off wasn't in a hurry? Why is my mission more important? Am I the only one who pays the taxes that builds and maintains the road? No. But by behaving in such a self-centered, callous manner, am I any better than Bush when he thumbs his nose at the world or we the people?

We must look at ourselves and accept responsibility for our actions. Until we treat each other with the respect we say Bush should show the world; until we refuse to support the systems that are destroying our environment, health, children's future, we will continue to elect, or allow to have power, those who reflect the worst in us.

We are generous, compassionate, warm, loving people. We have a good and beautiful side. So why do we continue to allow our worst side to dominate our world and environmental presence? We've got to look for the good in people, and accept responsibilty for the situation. Only then can we change it, and reverse the downward trend in which we're trapped. It isn't just about our votes being counted. If we're unwilling to give up a lifestyle that condones the destruction of our natural resources and the middle class, and we continue to bank with corporations that steal from us, and buy products made by hurting other beings, whether human, animal, or plant, and don't say "no" when told to do something we know to be wrong, and cut people off in traffic, and think nasty thoughts about anyone we think is in our way... how on earth can we blame Bush for his behaviour? Isn't it a bit like the pot calling the kettle black?

Bush can have a very important role for our betterment: we can study his actions and let him show us how NOT to behave! Knowing how it feels to be sacrificed for big business and a few power-hungry rich people who think we're here for their fodder, we can look at how we treat people in other lands and in the neighbourhood and on the streets, and find a better way to be. Then our representatives will show the world our best side, and we can all feel warm and fuzzy inside.

Something I think we need to look at, although no one is likely to want to see, is why we keep showing the world our worst side? I mean, Bush does represent us...the worst in us. How many of us complain about corporations' destruction or pollution of the environment, but continue to lead lifestyles that support those very corporations? How worried are we about global warming, as we drive gasoline-powered vehicles, instead of refusing to pay into that system and riding bikes, walking, and using mass-transit? We worry about Walmart driving out small business, but we shop there for their low prices that make it possible for us to consume even more of everything they sell, made by corporations that recklessly pollute, waste, and employ slave-labour. We know they pay their employees poverty wages, but we continue to shop there. We give them the money they need to do what they do.

How can we blame Bush for sending our troops to kill people we don't want killed, and get killed, when we pay taxes and don't say "no, we won't go. This war isn't right, and I won't go kill these people for your oil profits." If all those soldiers had said "no" just how many of them would have been injured or killed in this war? Many of them knew it was a bad war, but still followed orders. Many of them didn't know it was a bad war, and wrong, and that's worse. We failed to teach our young right from wrong.

How many times have I accidentally or carelessly cut someone off in traffic because I was in a hurry. So the person I cut off wasn't in a hurry? Why is my mission more important? Am I the only one who pays the taxes that builds and maintains the road? No. But by behaving in such a self-centered, callous manner, am I any better than Bush when he thumbs his nose at the world or we the people?

We must look at ourselves and accept responsibility for our actions. Until we treat each other with the respect we say Bush should show the world; until we refuse to support the systems that are destroying our environment, health, children's future, we will continue to elect, or allow to have power, those who reflect the worst in us.

We are generous, compassionate, warm, loving people. We have a good and beautiful side. So why do we continue to allow our worst side to dominate our world and environmental presence? We've got to look for the good in people, and accept responsibilty for the situation. Only then can we change it, and reverse the downward trend in which we're trapped. It isn't just about our votes being counted. If we're unwilling to give up a lifestyle that condones the destruction of our natural resources and the middle class, and we continue to bank with corporations that steal from us, and buy products made by hurting other beings, whether human, animal, or plant, and don't say "no" when told to do something we know to be wrong, and cut people off in traffic, and think nasty thoughts about anyone we think is in our way... how on earth can we blame Bush for his behaviour? Isn't it a bit like the pot calling the kettle black?

Bush can have a very important role for our betterment: we can study his actions and let him show us how NOT to behave! Knowing how it feels to be sacrificed for big business and a few power-hungry rich people who think we're here for their fodder, we can look at how we treat people in other lands and in the neighbourhood and on the streets, and find a better way to be. Then our representatives will show the world our best side, and we can all feel warm and fuzzy inside.

oops, it said it wasn't going through. so i tried it again, same result. i guess it did anyway.

Some of you people are so stupid you can't get past the fact that your side won (nanner,nanner,nanner)....lets take a history lesson shall we....do you know why our founding fathers set up a government in three different "bodies" ? For checks and balances! To make sure that no "one" party" got complete control, to do as they please. A one party system is called a dictatorship, a monarchy, a plutocracy (among other things)..now the Republicans have managed to cheat their way into control of all three government bodies...the judicial system, the legislative and the administration are all under the control of one party...understand this, you morons who are gloating about a "Bush win"..congratulations! you now have the exact "one party government" that the USSR, Nazi Germany, Iraq, Suadi Arabia and most of the other "third world countries" have...a one party dictatorship...if you had a lick of sense, instead of gloating that you helped to "set it up" and condoning this form of government...you should be very afraid of what a dictatorship government is going to do to you, and who the hell is going to stop them from doing it

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Keith Olbermann (the only mainstream journalist covering votergate) has lied, misinformed, and smeared one of the most important investigators for finding out the truth in the 2004 election. Why?

Another question posed at

>>> FOCUS: VOTERGATE

MIS-TRUTH: Is General Electric Knocking on Keith Olbermann's Door?

http://newsclipautopsy.blogspot.com/

Another "dissecting" of very interesting (and revealing) blogs made by Keith Olberman and Bev Harris.
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Please note that what you have is NOT a sworn affidavit, it is a notarized document. Anyone could type that same thing, have a notary notarize it and post it online. It means nothing. It is not legal testimony, not a legal document.

Also, those of you with Nexis should run a search on "Clint Curtis" and Feeney. There's much more to this story and it's been covered over the years.

Please note that what you have is NOT a sworn affidavit, it is a notarized document. Anyone could type that same thing, have a notary notarize it and post it online. It means nothing. It is not legal testimony, not a legal document.

Also, those of you with Nexis should run a search on "Clint Curtis" and Feeney. There's much more to this story and it's been covered over the years.

And as for Olbermann being the only mainstream reporter covering this issue, that's simply not true. All the coverage every day is detailed at

http://www.electionline.org

And that information is not filtered through a COLUMNIST, which is what Mr. Olbermann is.

Dear Brad Friedman:
Thank you for bringing us the report from the programmer who was instructed by Republican Feeney to develop the fraudulent voting software "that would be undetectable." This is a very big story. I am circulating it to all. Please keep on this. You are exposing one of the biggest frauds in American history (similar to the S&L, another Republican fraud that the bush crime family were in on).
Keep up this great work Brad. Thank you.
Guruneil Singh