One more note or two on some Ohio anomalies previously reported, but which may have gotten lost in last night’s crush.
The final vote, apparently, was cast in Knox County, Ohio last night (this morning) at 3:55am after loads of student voters (who broke heavily for Kerry) at Kenyon College had stood in line to vote for as many as ten hours due to a shortage of electronic voting machines. Do you suppose there were many who chose not to wait that long to cast their vote and simply left?
The still-open polls, of course, did not keep Fox from making their call for Bush in Ohio at 11:41pm last night, a full four hours before the polls in Ohio had closed.
Apparently their protestations of “media bias!” back in 2000, when some of the nets called Florida for Gore in 2000 before voting had ended in conservative Tallahassee, was just another piece of bullshit at the time meant to go down the Memory Hole once that battle-cry became no longer operative. (UPDATE: Murdoch’s NY Post also called Bush the winner in it’s 2am issue, before polls had closed, according to Drudge. Surprised? Didn’t think so.)
As well, if you missed it last night, see AMERICAblog’s photo and story of Ohio ballots being carted away yesterday in a “Bush-Cheney ’04” truck. The photo and incident was confirmed with multiple witnesses and they are reporting today that some in the media are investigating. I hope so. Though, again, I’ll not be holding my breath.
There is more to life than politics. Stop with the conspiracy theories already. The democrats agree that they LOST. It is time to move on and bring both sides together. Not try to continue to pull them further apart. You may not want to believe but there is definitely common ground that both side can rally around.
yes, there is common ground, but Bush and his cronies haven’t found it yet in four years. i hope you’ll forgive me if i don’t hold my breath waiting for them to care.
questioning the voting system is not a ‘conspiracy theory’ — the days after an election are the IDEAL time to examine and uncover problems, so that they can be fixed in time for the next round. four years ago we discovered massive problems and moved to address them. the system still has lots of holes, lots of issues yet to be resolved, and that doesn’t just happen magically. now is the time to look critically at our process, while the experience is still fresh, and the will is still there.
if the election results had gone the other way, ask yourself — be honest now — wouldn’t you have a few questions , too? wouldn’t you like those to be addressed before the next big election??
why don’t you want to make sure we improve on ourselves each time, so that every vote gets counted, in every election?
to borrow a favorite phrase from Sean Hannity, "why do you hate America?"
It is time to move on and profit as much as possible from what we have learned. Hopefully, Bush will realize how close he came to getting defeated and will try to incorporate some of the opposition’s most appealing positions because there will be another election in four years.
The answer to the question "What would I do it the election had gone the other way?" I would have done the same thing I am doing now, getting on with my life.
Hugh, your position, while "admirable" is naive.
Setting aside the fallacy that "Bush…will try to incorporate some of the opposition’s most appealing positions" (remember when he *lost* the Popular Vote in 2000 but ruled America as if he had a mandate?) — The plain fact is that America having a clean election system is important to the entire world.
See this article in today’s PRAVDA if you have any question about that.