The Dutch have been implementing long range plans for the rise in sea levels and investing in new solutions for years while the rest of the world dithers. You would think that the West would at some point think to ask 'well, what do the Dutch think, after all, practically their entire country is below sea level, maybe they have an opinion worth listening to'?

It's all about short term gains for the West.

http://www.npr.org/templ...ory.php?storyId=18480769

http://www.csmonitor.com...001/0823/p17s1-sten.html

Maldives cabinet meets underwater to stress threat from rising sea levels

The president of the Maldives is desperate for the world to know how seriously his government takes the threat of climate change and rising sea levels to the survival of his country. He wants his ministers to know as well.

To this end, Mohamed Nasheed has organised an underwater cabinet meeting and told all his ministers to get in training for the sub-aqua session. Six metres beneath the surface, the ministers will ratify a treaty calling on other countries to cut greenhouse emissions.

Some Governments are preparing...

I think it was here that someone posted a link to a concise, well-organized, and properly cited Web that debunks all the wacko "climategate" nuts.

Can someone post a link to a site to help me counter some of the crap that am being deluged with?

I have had to stop visiting some of my daily reads, alternative news sites, because it is just all "climategate" crap all the time now.

Can anyone help with link?

You may be referring to http://SkepticalScience.com, PB. It seems to answer directly and clearly to a lot of the "hottest" denialist arguments.

Shortbus:

I was just going to post a link to the brilliant episode PBS' "NOW" did with the president of The Maldives, which includes a mention of the underwater cabinet meeting!

http://www.pbs.org/now/s...ow-audio+%28now-audio%29

Yeah, he and the 40+ other island countries he is working with to get the attention of UN members understand PERFECTLY what "Adapt or Die" means.

That's it, brad - meant to bookmark it when you posted it hear earlier. Will do now - thanks

As helpful and important as most posts here are, the links people add to the threads can be the most valuable part of blogs.

any one need the shortcut to see what those idiots did in our name, I mean "humanity's" name. There are people starving and those fools are saying let them die. How to cobble figures so they match the hockey stick, I believe there is global change every day, up, down, and all around, but I was raised to use my mind, and not to cheat the customer, and lying wasn't part of it either. Those guys did all of that.

purple barney COMMENT #3,

You can see the following links to make sense of ClimateGate. They are written by the very people the emails refer to. If you want to make sense of it all might as well read 1st party sources rather than spin:

http://camirror.wordpress.com

http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com

It just shows how rightwing media has taken over all mainstream media. Mainstream media IS rightwing media now. Wake up! And they MUST say, as part of the game, that it's still "liberal" or it wouldn't work. Who is still calling the mainstream media "liberal"? Not us, it's Rush Limbaugh. Why? We know it's not, why does Rush Limbaugh still have to say it is?

The right's infiltration of the "liberal media" became apparent to me during the 2000 election, when they pushed Bush's stolen election as being legitimate and portrayed Gore as an overtalkative bully who invented the internet. They ignored anything bad about Bush and made up stuff about Gore. That's exactly when it spiked. And it was never the same since.

So, even 3rd world countries are preparing for global warming...but not the USA because of the rightwing media's War on Science.

http://rawstory.com/2009...mpaign-climate-skeptics/

Why is the entire country somehow beholden to these people? I guess we should ignore it, though...ignore that they're making the entire country including us do what they want.

the Group Promoting Climate Skepticism, has extensive Ties to Exxon Mobile:

http://rawstory.com/2009...tensive-ties-exxonmobil/

Ten months after this story broke over at rumormilnews.com a crack in the mainstream armor is finally opening up. Thanks Brad for jumping in. Your still ahead of the retarded lamestream.

Sea level is rising. Are humans to blame? not so much. The "decline" the disgraced scientists were lamenting in their leaked ( not hacked) emails is a result of a drastic drop in solar output. That power reduction is unexplainable in conventional terms resulting in the need for a cover up.

Oil companies love cap and trade because it let's them continue to pollute for a fee they can deduct from their tax bill.

The price of energy skyrockets and carbon emmisions continue to rise.

Zero point radiation is unlimited free energy that permeates the universe. Tesla tapped into it a hundred heRs ago. The funky display on Tunga's iPhone that always knows which way is up exploits it. It's not magic or a mystery. Just suppressed.

Bicker and argue all you want. If the sun goes supernova we'd all be ash in less than ten minutes. Demand the real truth not the phony distraction designed to divide us.

http://www.scientificame...-are-josephson-junctions

Materials science has advanced since this article appeared 12 years ago. Hope this link works. The first one didn't.

http://www.scientificame...hat-are-josephson-juncti