Rove: ‘Undistinguished’ Small Town Mayor and Short-term Governor ‘Intensely Political Choice’

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“Silent Patriot” over at Crooks & Liars has the video, and a bit more detail to go with this. But here’s the condensed version [emphasis in original]:

On August 10, Karl Rove went on “Face The Nation” to argue that Senator Obama would make an “intensely political choice” for Vice President without regard for the “responsibilities of president.” At the time, Rove believed Obama would choose Tim Kaine, and argued against him by saying this:

With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he’s been a governor for three years, he’s been able but undistinguished. I don’t think people could really name a big, important thing that he’s done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America. And again, with all due respect to Richmond, Virginia, it’s smaller than Chula Vista, California; Aurora, Colorado; Mesa or Gilbert, Arizona; north Las Vegas or Henderson, Nevada. It’s not a big town. So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I’m really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States?


Rove argues that Kaine’s mayorship of Richmond (pop. 200,000+) is insignificant and that his 3 years as Governor of Virginia (pop. 7,712,091, GDP $383 million) has been “indistinguisahable.” If Rove was intellectually consistent, wouldn’t that mean Palin’s mayorship of Wasilla (pop. 8,000+) and 20 months as Alaska governor (pop. 683,478, GDP $44.5 million) makes her even less qualified than Kaine?

So, Karl, who made the “intensely political choice”?

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Rove: ‘Undistinguished’ Small Town Mayor and Short-term Governor ‘Intensely Political Choice’

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    Dave of Maryland said on 8/30/2008 @ 10:57am PT: [Permalink]

    I gave up TPM when they started running junk like this.

    Obama is blatantly unqualified to be president. (And don’t get me started with McCain.) But since he’s now the nominee, then any well-spoken, good-looking hack is acceptable.

    A governor who went to work every day for 20 months beats a senator who shirked his duties for four years.

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    TEDEGER said on 8/30/2008 @ 11:09am PT: [Permalink]

    I don’t know where you got the idea that Obama is unqualified. By your criteria, neither was Kennedy – or Ronald Reagan. Or FDR! It’s not “Qualifications” that count – it’s QUALITY! And frankly, I’d rather trust the Nation to someone who cares about its people, than putting it in the hands of a lifelong politician who got where he is thanks to organizsd crime money, and trading on his experience as a POW, after which he showed himself to be a faithless philandering wretch – an early Gingrich. In my book, Palin is far more qualified for the job than McCain!

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    leftisbest said on 8/30/2008 @ 5:00pm PT: [Permalink]

    Did I read the same blog that the above folks did? Seems to me the issue is this: is the VP candidate qualified to be president?

    Biden, with immense experience in Foreign policy, absolutely. And the maturity and accomplishments to go with it.

    Palin, with absolutely NO foreign policy or domestic policy experience, not a chance! She is a champion snowmobiler however, and that might be important if the Russians come across the straight and she needs to make a quick getaway.

    C’mon, would anyone want a 44 year old with no background in federal government service, foreign affairs, and domestic affairs to have her hand on the button? Well, she was mayor in a town of 8,000 and now governor of one of the smallest population states for 1.75 years.

    Criminey, McCain picks her after have met her exactly twice – do we want a president who makes these kind of idiotic gut-level decisions in charge for the next four or eight years. Or his VP if and when he bites the big one?

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    Mugzi said on 8/31/2008 @ 4:04am PT: [Permalink]

    I shudder to think! She is pro foreign oil – reason for being against polar bears on endangered list (I guess polar bears inhabitat the same land as oil exploration and it’s easer to kill them), says we haven’t been attacked in US because we occupy Iraq, do you see where she is going…certainly FOR the same oil barons that currently are in office, and NOT for middle class people! I take a stretch and say, if jm/sp are elected, there wouldn’t be any differences than are currently in place…probably worse for middle class, not better. This reason alone, should inspire people to vote for Obama. Our occupation has nothing to do with 9/11. Iraqis had nothing to do with 9/11. Our occupation of Iraq is about oil, not 9/11.

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    Floridiot said on 8/31/2008 @ 4:51am PT: [Permalink]

    I was close on the quote on another thread, “intensely” sounds more like Rove tho, I said strictly.

    When he said that back then, I knew they were going to be the ones to make the political choice, but not her (God, that dim witted voice!)

    Nice side show though to take the media off of Obama’s fukin historical speech.

    It only figures dunt it?

    It will be a matter of time before she has to go and spend more time with her family.

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    Floridiot said on 8/31/2008 @ 5:02am PT: [Permalink]

    Oh yeah and now they’re trying to figure out a way to politicize hurricane Gustav so their convention won’t look like shit compared to the Dems.
    They can use the excuse that not as many showed up because they are out doing hurricane relief efforts.

    It’s getting easier by the day to figure out these used car salesmen.

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    OldHickory said on 8/31/2008 @ 8:57am PT: [Permalink]

    Your GDP figures for both Virginia and Alaska are off by a factor of 1000. The amounts are actualy Billions, not millions. Other than that, I agree with everything you say.

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    FreedomOfInformationAct said on 8/31/2008 @ 11:14am PT: [Permalink]

    Sarah Palin is this years ‘Harriet Miers’, both concoctions of karl roves tiny brain. only this year it will backfire more for mclame than it did for dubhya. waiting for your bait and switch neocons.

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    msvox said on 8/31/2008 @ 10:51pm PT: [Permalink]

    The only issue that matters is how the vote will be cast, how it gets counted and who gets to vote. Obama has already won. The numbers we aren’t seeing in the utterly compromised media are overwhelming and the Republicants know it. That is what the catapulting of the Sarah Palin onto the national stage confirms for anyone who is paying attention. Gustave is not why they are canceling their convention. At the moment, chances are very good that these criminals will succeed in stealing a third election. Isn’t stopping this theft what the Bradblog is all about? Can’t we talk about the mechanics? How do we address the real threat to our democracy?

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    Roseburner said on 9/1/2008 @ 2:08pm PT: [Permalink]

    Two likely scenarios

    The baby they carry around all the time who is ALWAYS sleeping is really a doll and the daughter is really pregnant. When the daughter has her baby they will announce that Sarah’s down syndrome doll baby died. Why would they have a fake baby? To pretend that Sarah had a baby. And who names their baby Trig? is that short for Trigger?? Bottom line: SHE DIDNT NOT GIVE BIRTH TO ANY BABY IN APRIL!!!! WHERE ARE THE PREGNANCY PICS???? YOU WONT FIND ONE!!!!

    Another scenario:

    The baby is real and Palin’s daughter is really pregnant but the down syndrome baby was birthed by the 13 year old or the 17 year old. The father probably molested one of the girls and thats why its such a big cover up. The 17 year will have her second child or they will announce in a few months, that she had a miscarriage. The 17 yr is NOT CURRENTLY pregnant and SARAH did not have the down syndrome baby. The baby probably does not even have DS and whose to say the baby is even real???? HAS ANYONE HERE EVER SEEN THE BABY MOVE????

    -ROSEBURNER

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    Sue Woniya said on 9/4/2008 @ 7:26am PT: [Permalink]

    Although, the comments about the baby are somewhat amusing – No, I’ve never seen the baby awake – HOWEVER, it may be the equivalent of Rush’s comments about the beautiful and intelligent Chelsey Clinton when she was an awkward “tween”.

    So, in agreement with MXVOX, we need to seriously concentrate on finding real answers to the enormous threat that our country faces. I have worked with almost militant Republicans for two decades and I assure you, all they talk about is how scared they are that Obama may win. They’re scared of his race, they say they believe the rhetoric about his terrorist ties, but it is actually change that they fear. They would vote for Satan himself rather than vote for Obama. Thinking is not their best attribute but I assure you they will be out in force at the polls in November and that scares me!

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