READER COMMENTS ON
"Your Daily Dose of Daily Kos Diarists in Dangerous Denial..."
(17 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 2/4/2008 @ 1:16 pm PT...
Shoot, the CIA has nothing on them...oh wait
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Dredd
said on 2/4/2008 @ 1:47 pm PT...
Yes, it is that time of month again ... when momma ain't happy no one is happy. F*ck Holt or somebody ... anyway ...
I have been listening to the FISA "debate" in the US Senate.
Very, very pathetic. Much like the EI movement.
The very best we have, Feingold, Tester, Webb, are all bragging about being left of Hitler.
Did you, our best, forget to ask "who framed that f*king question?"
In case you want to know, the question must be: "Is this in compliance with the Supreme Law of America, the Bill of Rights?" I thought I would mention that.
Instead, they are unabashedly bragging about "how much survellience on Americans their amendment will allow", because, "that amount is less than what the drooling, self-fondling, blood worshiping, murder and mayhem, neCon fascists would allow". Whoopee frickin doo ...
The EI movement is equally pathetic, but you know, it is that time of month so ...
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Dredd
said on 2/4/2008 @ 1:52 pm PT...
Brad,
Clearly there was a typo. The airhead smintheus spintheus did not spell its lil' handle correctly.
Ah yes, reminds me of the time I was forced to live on kos and water for three daze.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Linda
said on 2/4/2008 @ 1:59 pm PT...
What is going on at the Daily Kos disqualifies it as a progressive blog. Censorship (preventing the free exchange of ideas and opinions) is a defining characteristic of a regressive/conservative site. I do not understand how any progressive can, in good consciousness, participate in their discussions. Right from the get-go, I was turned off by what I read there. People calling the Daily Kos a progressive site is like people saying Bush's war on terror is keeping us safe. They don't connect, folks.
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pat driscoll
said on 2/4/2008 @ 2:11 pm PT...
it takes all of a minute to glance thru the nonsense on kos and DU these days. nothing worth reading.
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americangoy
said on 2/4/2008 @ 2:49 pm PT...
"What is going on at the Daily Kos disqualifies it as a progressive blog. Censorship (preventing the free exchange of ideas and opinions) is a defining characteristic of a regressive/conservative site."
There are excellent diaries on DKos, but these are mostly not recommended. Instead, the "I luv me some Obama" or "Hillary has experience!" dominate with a 400 comments, whereas an informative diary about a complicated issue will get say 10-60 comments... if it doesn't disappear too fast.
And woe to you if you write about conspiracy stuff - you know, like facts about Diebold counting machines and such...
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Mark A. Adams JD/MBA
said on 2/4/2008 @ 3:12 pm PT...
Don't worry, be happy. No one would ever try to seize power in the good old USA! Does anyone want to buy a bridge, cheap?
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teknikAL
said on 2/4/2008 @ 3:15 pm PT...
I don't bother with Kos anymore, don't even read it. My posts were deleted and my login purged after I posted comments there. Integrity is not something left to trust but to verification. They immediately use a straw man argument to claim that to question the integrity of the voting process is the same as claiming fraud. Screw them.
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kansaschuck
said on 2/4/2008 @ 3:20 pm PT...
I've been ignoring DailyKos so as to contribute to their decrease in readership.
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Steve B
said on 2/4/2008 @ 4:22 pm PT...
Those EI folks posting at DKos risk banishment every time they respond to the "Contributors" who are sanctimonious thought police. I will bet that most of them have been warned at least once.
What should happen is that if someone poses what is considered to be a "conspiracy theory" on Dkos then it should be up to the readers to decide whether it should be ignored or not. After all,we are all adults and perfectly capable of thinking for ourselves.
Here is a thought that would rankle the DKos "terminators" and bringing it up would almost surely get you banned. DKos says that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Dkos "Front Pagers" all subscribe to the "conspiracy theory" that "evoting machines always correctly count votes except for the miniscule standard deviation".
This is an extraordinary claim which requires extraordinary evidence which the obviously don't have. So to them,this becomes fact which,of course,is self evident.
Some of the "what if" thinking being posted by the DKos EI people ,I believe, is being recognized by the "designated enforcers" as coming way to close to the truth if not actually hitting on the truth. Thus,we see the relentless campaign of poster purges and damage control.
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Traverllerev
said on 2/4/2008 @ 7:54 pm PT...
This morning I read an article from a Kos Blogger who was most apologetic about perhaps suggesting that 4 cut submarine telecom cables isolating Iran from the rest of the world might look a bit suspect but honestly he wasn't trying to promote a "conspiracy theory" it sounded pathetic and I wonder why you would want to your right to free speech be hampered like that. A good debate about facts never hurt anybody other than those who like to live in a bubble.
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socrates
said on 2/4/2008 @ 8:09 pm PT...
I can't believe Kos admitting he is a fan of the CIA and Ronald Reagan was deliberate. That appears to have been a brain cramp. Because now a legitemate question to ask is whether Kos is paid to astroturf hidden agendas.
BradBlog wants the good people to keep fighting on Kos' turf. He asks them to keep signing up if they get banned. I can appreciate that outlook. Yet maybe it's time for the good folks at Kos to find other homes and let the DailyKos rot on its own. The more people stay there, the good ideas will get lost amidst all the insidious propaganda.
It appears that Kos is censoring the comments in his sections. I have found a bunch of threads where comments have been blocked out. However, I was able to get to all the original comments. Even though they are apparently censored, the permalinks can be clicked on by sliding the mouse over the hidden posts. I think this may be evidence of Kos running a spook website. All the unreadable comments appear to be ones a rightwing spook would delete or obfuscate, if he was to do such a thing.
Here's one example.
http://www.dailykos.com/...29/10323/8025/682/444774
To see the screenshots I took of the posts, just click on my username above. I plugged in the url there.
If this is a wild goose chase, I will admit it. But again, I find it strange that the posts that got blocked out all seem to be ones a fake would censor.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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molly
said on 2/4/2008 @ 9:28 pm PT...
'I noticed that if anyone posted a truly progressive diary...the first 2 or 3 commenters were big put downs. It's been several years since I read Kos..before I was banned..but there seemed to be a lot of knowledgable people who wanted to discuss election fraud..but weren't allowed to. Don't forget crooksandliars puts out disinformation. Firedoglake will not put up an article about election fraud. Huff po won't either. Correct me if I'm wrong...it is dismal to me.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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socrates
said on 2/5/2008 @ 12:01 am PT...
This stinks, because DailyKos is such a big name and place. So we feel we need to spread our voices there. But the place is rigged.
Maybe Brad could get Rosie O'Donnell interested in starting an above board forum for concerned, amateur bloggers who research and debate fair. Otherwise, all this talent is being wasted sparring with paid trolls and useful idiots.
I started out at HuffPo but gave up on them after the yacomink/Peter Rost thing, and then because of Arianna's hack job on George Clooney.
I've given up on most of these places. It's as if most of them have been established with the primary goal to marginalize true progressives and peaceniks.
DailyKos is surely some kind of disinfo agent. No true lefty would ever come down this hard on anyone for trying to get rid of the election fraud. KOS is probably a CIA member right now. Just take a good look at what he writes. Read between the lines.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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gtash
said on 2/5/2008 @ 6:21 am PT...
I only drop in occasionally at dKos and rarely read anything through unless it is linked from another site by a poster with a specific point or recommendation. The site is a lot like Huffington Post to me---but HuffPo has better design and fluff. At least it is clearly marked. But HuffPo is also becoming something different and I read it less and less as well. I am tempted to say it has more to do with the scale of the operation than anything else. There is only so much you can read or promote in a day, and when the sites become so packed with commentary and diaries, they have to find someway to organize themselves by theme, by author, or ---or what?
I read Emptywheel and Firedoglake a lot. Firedoglake recently changed its webpage format and "financial model" and frankly, I don't like as much as before despite the regularity of hits blog-roster. I predict I will quit reading it regularly in about 6 months for many of the same reasons I gave up on dKos.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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socrates
said on 2/5/2008 @ 10:49 am PT...
The problem isn't that individual websites have badly designed formats. Organised forces are spreading propaganda about "kooky conspiracy theorists." The problem being addressed here is whether DailyKos and others are gatekeepers for the status quo of war, corruption, and the loss of our rights.
The problem is that progressives and truthseekers are being played by psychological operatives. It appears that DailyKos was established to create a dead end for positive, social change. The ptb's do not want sincere, good people working together.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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GWN
said on 2/5/2008 @ 2:37 pm PT...
A few things about Marcos that make you go hummmmm,
[snip]
fanatical supporter of Ronald Reagan
worked as a Republican Party precinct captain in high school.
worked for the campaign of Henry Hyde (widely known for his role in the Clinton impeachment)
Moulitsas often speaks of himself as a “war refugee” and as a person who “came to this country (U.S.A.) in 1980”....but Moulitsas says he was born in Chicago and the family moved to El Salvador and stayed there for “about 5 years”. The family returned to the U.S. in 1980
Marcos
http://truth-about-kos.blogspot.com/