READER COMMENTS ON
"Diebold Tells NYTimes Access to Their Voting Machines 'Analogous to Launching a Nuclear Missile'"
(21 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Mark S
said on 9/24/2006 @ 5:46 pm PT...
Oh, great. So Diebold intends to nuke us in November.
I'm going to google my nearest fallout shelter right now. Duck and cover, folks, duck and cover!
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Chris Hooten
said on 9/24/2006 @ 9:06 pm PT...
What kind of an idiot is going to go, "Yeah, that's the ticket... Just like launching a nuke... checking the security of a voting machine... Sounds totally reasonable."
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TomR
said on 9/24/2006 @ 9:18 pm PT...
I will say that I agree with Diebold's assessment that voters access to the buttons on Diebold's touch screens should be restricted so no one uses them.
These guys need to go to jail.
- Tom
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Skate
said on 9/24/2006 @ 9:49 pm PT...
Hmmm...how can Diebold claim their current machines are super secure but that giving anyone access to them is "analogous to launching a nuclear missile?" Seems more like an admission of guilt than anything...
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Marian
said on 9/24/2006 @ 11:19 pm PT...
Maybe a missile should be launched at Diebold.........pronto...!!!!!
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Eric Smith
said on 9/25/2006 @ 12:33 am PT...
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Ram
said on 9/25/2006 @ 1:44 am PT...
Mark #1: I'm digging a shelter in my backyard right now!
Eric #6: How could Brad take your graphic when that page won't even come up? (Broken link?)
Brad, if you ripped off his graphic, please apologize.
Great picture anyway!
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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bvac
said on 9/25/2006 @ 2:06 am PT...
Sorry but depicting a Diebold electronic voting machine as a slot machine is not the most original idea in the world. Especially when it's just a picture of a slot machine with some text photoshopped onto it.
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gtash
said on 9/25/2006 @ 5:41 am PT...
You probably heard the Science Friday show on NPR where experts from Brandeis and others talks about the machines. They wrote off conspiracy readily, but did say clearly the machines were defective. They conclude manufacturers "rushed into service" slipshod equipment that failed to take security into account.
Well, that's progress. They have made a space for machine makers to back-up and apologize and try to do better.
But they also said the Federal commission in charge of developing the standards and testing did a good job. They do not see politics are part of it at all. They are giving a "technical" assessment only. Was that an accurate assertion to broadcast?
Ira Flatow did very little to encourage speculation. Had to be about science and technology. Maybe that is good. I don't recall his evenhandedness regarding global climate change, but then I quit paying much attention to him after Newton's Apple was taken off the air.
What say ye?
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Dolphyn
said on 9/25/2006 @ 8:11 am PT...
For comparison, it might be worth looking into how Diebold operates their ATM business. What kind of security is in place for ATMs? Do the customers (banks) have access to the software code? What information does a bank demand to know before buying the product? What liability does Diebold have in the event of an ATM security breach?
I believe Diebold is fully capable of making secure products, because I believe the banks must demand it. But, apparently Diebold chooses to make insecure products for voting.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Eric Smith
said on 9/25/2006 @ 8:17 am PT...
BVAC:
Maybe. Neither is a hoola hoop. But if you use he idea with crediting the inventor (or paying royalties), it's theft.
And thenks for your critique of the "simple" photoshop job. Not quite as simple as you think.
This, sir, is the work of a master.
peace,
Eric
Tokyo
RAM:
Link works fine for me (and apparently BVAC)
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Ram
said on 9/25/2006 @ 8:32 am PT...
Eric #11: This is what I get when I click on your link:
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 9/25/2006 @ 9:18 am PT...
DIEBOLD is the epitome of the blending of Corporate America and American government, and proof that the two should be separate. DIEBOLD is a non-public company in charge of the public democracy. Enough said. Those who allowed this to happen, should be sent to jail. All the politicians in charge of overseeing the safety of democracy in America.
Jail. Nothing less. Those in charge of our trust in our vote, failed miserably. (on purpose???)
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 9/25/2006 @ 9:20 am PT...
Chris Hooten: Answer: Those who voted for Bush.
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big dan
said on 9/25/2006 @ 9:58 am PT...
When DIEBOLD said that their machines Princeton hacked into were "2 generations old", a good follow up question would be, "Well, were these 2 generation old machines ever used in elections?" "No comment".
So, 2 generations from NOW...they'll be saying that the ones we're using NOW stink??? They ALWAYS should have been secure!!! They're admitting the ones 2 generations ago, which were USED IN ELECTIONS, WERE NOT SECURE! Does everyone realize they implicated themselves?
Their answer should've been, "The DIEBOLD machines Princeton used were 2 generations old, ALTHOUGH THEY WERE ALSO SECURE AT THE TIME"!!!! WTF???
They're really saying, "The DIEBOLD machines Princeton used, were 2 generations old, and they WERE NOT SECURE, AND THEY WERE USED TO STEAL ELECTIONS AT THE TIME. OH, AND BY THE WAY? AT THAT TIME, WE WERE TELLING EVERYONE THAT THOSE MACHINES WERE SECURE, LIKE WE'RE TELLING YOU NOW, THAT THESE ARE SECURE!!!
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JenJ
said on 9/25/2006 @ 12:19 pm PT...
I will say that I agree with Diebold's assessment that voters access to the buttons on Diebold's touch screens should be restricted so no one uses them.
These guys need to go to jail.
- JenJ
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Bluebear2
said on 9/25/2006 @ 12:52 pm PT...
This weekend The Sacramento Bee ran an article on how many people are starting to question these voting machines. It was buried in the middle of the A section. While it only gave one sentence to the hacking issue and called it a theory, at least it exposed the other problems that have been occuring with these machines.
Unfortunately it did lean towards blaming the poll workers, but I guess this is better than the nothing we have been getting so far.
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Melissa
said on 9/25/2006 @ 3:29 pm PT...
What is the name of the guy that worked for Diebold that told congress that he was given orders to write a program that would allow the results to be changed?
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Larry Bergan
said on 9/25/2006 @ 11:39 pm PT...
Eric Smith:
Did the New York Times pay you royalties when they used the picture?
Please don't sue Brad.
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bvac
said on 9/26/2006 @ 9:41 pm PT...
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Eric Smith
said on 9/29/2006 @ 10:31 am PT...
Larry:
Yeah, as a matter of fact. Please don't be such a pussy.