This is big news. I wonder if Dobbs will pick this up for all those cable watchers. Thanks for the info.

While we're on the subject - has anyone heard anything more about the guy who busted up the voting machines?

No surprise here. I am disgusted that people don't realize the problems with the memory cards and the "ballot definition files". Audits won't solve this problem; only hand counting paper ballots will. But what do we do in the interim? Read Bruce O'Dell's article in the OpEd News in which he says: "Jonathan Simon, Steven Freeman, Josh Mitteldorf and I have just published a paper that recommends nothing less than a 10% in-precinct hand count of all paper ballot records to be done by the public and on election night, everywhere we allow electronic tallying...Because I for one firmly believe that wherever and whenever we actually do start hand-counting ballot records in public on election night, we will find such a catalog of horrors, such unconscionable sloppiness, such pervasive backdoor manipulation of the electronic tally that the American people will rise up and demand that we take back control of our elections into our own hands – and cast and count our paper ballots ourselves."

Apparently, we must be ready to stand and demand these hand counts ourselves, for audits at this level are not legislated anywhere.

http://www.opednews.com/...an_exit_strategy_for.htm

For more direct defensive measures, see Mark Crispin Miller's piece: "Psst! The Fix is In (and what you can do about it)"

http://www.opednews.com/...st_21__the_fix_is_in.htm

I have less talent than those 54-year old women.

Can Bev show us all how to do it? I think this would be worthwhile - public domain, as it were. I mean they are our machines, are they not? We should know how to hack them in case of emergency.

Anyway, I'm ready for a seminar. Bev?

LOL... I guess I should have read the whole post first. Good seminar.

The Republicans are saying "Tic Toc, game is locked, and nobody else can play."

Beverly Harris says "Wanna bet?"

Bluebear2 #2

I wonder if that guy who tipped over the Diebold machine looked like this guy?

Just in case this link doesn't work, here's a clue. "open the pod bay door HAL!"

Sorry Dave...

(in sticking with my 1 second destroy the vote challenge on *ANY* electronic box)

Instead of "replacing" the memory card, lay a thick cloth over the chip, And wack it, really fucking hard, one time, with the end of the screw gun. Pop the bracket and two screws back in.

~poof~
*All* votes gone.

Chip must have overheated and cracked! Doh!

There is NO ELECTRONIC machine that can be trusted to count votes.

This is specifically by design. That way it will always have to go to the courts.

What are you going to do, go through every single component with an electron microscope to check every nanometer from end to end for anomalies? No. Not even GOD can do that. Your also not going to be able to monitor every inch of every mile of every network that is used to send these signals to the central tabulator.
And if your hand carrying the CHIP that can be swapped with a specially crafted CHIP also.

I will say, nice work by blackboxvoting.org

If I had to do it in a hurry, I would be flying blind, but with an electronics and mechanical background, I still say ANY BOX, ANY circuit, chip or component, and I CAN give it a one second death. It doesn't matter if I have seen the hardware/firmware/powersupply/or circuit board before or not.

Q: Why else does EACH box cost about $5000 ?
A: So it's a felony.

(I got a god damn scanner for $20 bucks)

Just think what a billion dollar invisible government could do at the "doping level" of each chip!!

Hell some parts are not even made in america (As if that matters), who's to say, that ANOTHER COUNTRY is deciding for us. You can't validate it either way, because you can't validate the god damn electronics either way, unless you destroy them by destructive reverse-engineering.

These machines MUST all go.
Just like the CORRUPTION in our government MUST go!

There's always a government level above, to block such things from happening, look around you, Every problem that you have, that you have tried to change. IT JUST LIKE I SAID. Always some fuck in some agency muckin something else up to stop common sense or justice, or whatever (fill in the blank.)

It's interesting, how each state/local precint is supposed to decide how we vote. Except at the federal level HAVA [wiki:Help America Vote Act] can apply to ALL precints nationally. Yet nothing can be done at the federal level to get rid of these fucking devil machines that have COST US TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS NOW!

This whole god damn electronic voting thing is a GIANT crock of steaming shit.

IT IS KILLING PEOPLE.

I don't think I can face these people civily anymore, I just want to shove the palm of my hand up into their fucking nose bones.

How much more PROOF does our government need to ban these machines? Lou Dobbs, you should report on this.

Phil

As I have said frequently of late -

It's time to start breaking shit.

Phil..I am seeing more and more posts such as yours. So, we aren't divided. We are getting stronger. Six years of corruption and graft..and those machines were the secret weapon. Every time a republican christian goes to the gas pump, buys groceries, and tries to pay rent/mortgage payment..their govt. hits 'em in the face. Methinks same sex couples, racism and war will lose it's appeal daily.When poor people get out and vote without the repub. drippings, watch out!

Got this from www.blackboxvoting.org

Looks like SLEEPOVERS ALL OVER CALIFORNIA!

The Registrar from Constra Costa County mailed this to me. It states:

"Sending voting equipment and supplies home with poll workers is equally secure to the alternative approach of delivering equipment to poll sites in advance of the election where the chain of custody and security cannot be as easily documented or traced."

It looks like sleep overs are ok. See the full document below

California Association of

Clerks and Election Officials

ISSUE PAPER: VOTING EQUIPMENT “SLEEPOVER” PRACTICE

CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF CLERKS AND ELECTION OFFICIALS (CACEO)

July 27, 2006

The reference to voting equipment “sleepover” refers to the practice of election officials distributing secured voting equipment to poll workers in advance of the election. In this model, voting equipment and all election supplies (including paper ballots) are stored at the home of lead poll workers (inspectors) and transported to the poll site on Election Day. Questions have been raised regarding the security and integrity of voting equipment under this practice.

Association Statement

The California Association of Clerks and Election Officials (CACEO) recognizes that distributing secured voting equipment to poll workers prior to Election Day is an efficient, accountable and transparent practice that contributes to the orderly and secure conduct of elections.

The following safeguards associated with this practice ensure that the integrity of the elections process is maintained:

All poll workers take an oath to uphold the integrity of the elections process prior to initiating their duties. Poll workers are essential to ensuring public accountability in the elections process. It is appropriate that they are entrusted with the security of voting equipment and supplies prior to and during the day of the election.
Poll workers are trained to confirm that voting equipment is sealed and that the tamper-evident seals are not broken prior to the opening of the polls on Election Day.
Lead poll workers (inspectors) are required to complete comprehensive training on all election processes which they are legally responsible for administering on Election Day.
Sending voting equipment and supplies home with poll workers is equally secure to the alternative approach of delivering equipment to poll sites in advance of the election where the chain of custody and security cannot be as easily documented or traced.
Memory cards, programming chips and other electronic data storage devices used to record votes are sealed within the voting equipment using tamper-evident seals prior to distribution.
Upon confirming that the seals are intact prior to opening the polls, the poll workers break the seals and run a zero report (or tape) to document and confirm that no votes have been cast or recorded on equipment prior to the first voter appearing at the poll site.
At the close of the polls, a results report (or tape) is run to show the number of ballots cast and votes recorded on the equipment. This report is maintained as part of the comprehensive audit and reconciliation processes associated with the canvassing and certification of the election.
California election law requires all voting systems to produce a physical representation of the ballot, either a paper ballot or a voter verified paper audit trail, which is used to validate vote results recorded on or by the voting system.
As a public and transparent process, elections in the United States historically rely on the checks and balances associated with appointing citizen poll workers to oversee the conduct at the polls. This practice is consistent with that model.
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