Hey All: Mark Crispin Miller and Clint Curtis are appearing in Fort Lauderdale Florida today Sat 3-11-06 from 1:00 to 5:00 P.M. to give a talk on voting integrity. I found this on News from Underground, for more info: Http://Markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com. I know some of you are in Florida and might be interested in going. Too far for me but I'd love to go to hear these two guys. I hope someone can go and report back on how it went. I know its short notice,but thought I'd give it a heads up.

I'm wondering if we should solve this whole thing by just scrawling our sigs on paper and dropping it into a huge cardboard box, like the grand ole days of Kindergarten. Seems our elections have lost ground in reliability, since then.

American hostage killed in Iraq by Terrorists. Any mention here? Blog? Discussion? Anyone care at all?

Guess not.

Retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor indicates we are on the road to dictatorship, criticizing DeLay, and pointing out that republicans are severly damaging America when they damage the Judicial Branch of Government.

If the damage continues, we will have no place to remedy fraudy voting machine problems, and there will be nothing left but a republican dictatorship (link here).

#1 Laura,
Thank you so much for that news! I'm gonna go. I'll let you know how it goes.

From IrelandOnLine... 3/11/06...

"....Tom Fox, 54, from Clear Brook, Virginia, was the fifth American hostage killed in Iraq. There was no immediate word on his fellow captives, Briton Norman Kember and two Canadians.

....His Chicago-based group [Christian Peacemaker] said: “We mourn the loss of Tom Fox, who combined a lightness of spirit, a firm opposition to all oppression, and the recognition of God in everyone.”

“In response to Tom’s passing, we ask that everyone set aside inclinations to vilify or demonise others, no matter what they have done,” Christian Peacemaker co-directors Doug Pritchard and Carol Rose said in a statement...."

...Dredd said on 3/11/2006 @ 5:18am PT...

"Retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor indicates we are on the road to dictatorship, criticizing DeLay, and pointing out that republicans are severly damaging America when they damage the Judicial Branch of Government.

If the damage continues, we will have no place to remedy fraudy voting machine problems, and there will be nothing left but a republican dictatorship".

MYTHOZDOG WROTE:

As I Recall, Sandra Day O'Connor was part of the Infamous 5. Has she all of a sudden discovered ethics...now that she is out of office?

The people would be better served if these hypocrites would remember these important points while they are supposed to be serving the American People instead of Political Parties "Special Interests".

Thanks Joan.I can't wait to hear how it went.

O'Connor said that Republicans challenge the independence of judges and the freedoms of all Americans.
O’Connor said that attacks on the judiciary by some Republican leaders pose a direct threat to our constitutional freedoms. O’Connor began by conceding that courts do have the power to make presidents or the Congress or governors, as she put it “really, really angry.” "But," she continued, "if we don’t make them mad some of the time we probably aren’t doing our jobs as judges, and our effectiveness is premised on the notion that we won’t be subject to retaliation for our judicial acts."
"The nation’s founders wrote repeatedly," she said, "that without an independent judiciary to protect individual rights from the other branches of government, those rights and privileges would amount to nothing." But, said O’Connor, "as the founding fathers knew statutes and constitutions don’t protect judicial independence, people do."
And then, without actually naming names, she took aim at former House GOP leader Tom DeLay. She quoted his attacks on the courts at a meeting of the conservative Christian group JUSTICE SUNDAY last year when DeLay went after the courts for rulings on abortion, prayer and the Terri Schiavo case. This, said O’Connor, was after the federal courts had applied Congress’ one-time only statute about Schiavo as it was written. Not, said O’Connor, as the congressman might have wished it were written. This response to this flagrant display of judicial restraint, said O’Connor, her voice dripping with sarcasm, was that the congressman blasted the courts.
It gets worse, she said, noting that death threats against judges are increasing. It doesn’t help, she said, when a high-profile senator suggests there may be a connection between violence against judges and decisions that the senator disagrees with. She didn’t name him, but it was Texas senator John Cornyn who made that statement, after a Georgia judge was murdered in the courtroom and the family of a federal judge in Illinois murdered in the judge’s home. O’Connor observed that there have been a lot of suggestions lately for so-called judicial reforms, recommendations for the massive impeachment of judges, stripping the courts of jurisdiction and cutting judicial budgets to punish offending judges. Any of these might be debatable, she said, as long as they are not retaliation for decisions that political leaders disagree with.
"I," said O’Connor, "am against judicial reforms driven by nakedly partisan reasoning."
Pointing to the experiences of developing countries and former communist countries where interference with an independent judiciary has allowed dictatorship to flourish, O’Connor said we must be ever-vigilant against those who would strong-arm the judiciary into adopting their preferred policies. "It takes a lot of degeneration before a country falls into dictatorship, she said, but we should avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings."
This summary is from the Raw Story. The audio can be heard at
http://www.npr.org/templ...tory.php?storyId=5255712.

#7 MYTHOZDOG WROTE:

>>As I Recall, Sandra Day O'Connor was part of the Infamous 5.

She was a (moderate, "centrist") Republican. So, these statements made by a Republican make it all the more surprising; don't you think? I am glad she spoke out about it while the Idiot in Chief (that she installed, against the wishes of the people) is still in office.

>> Has she all of a sudden discovered ethics...now that she is out of office?

The Supremes are not supposed to publicly express their opinions while they serve, as an issue may crop up in a case later, which would force them to recuse themselves from participating in the decision. This excludes Antonin Scalia, of course, as he has special dispensation because he hangs out with Dick Cheney (and does Cheney's bidding.)

>>The people would be better served if these hypocrites would remember these important points while they are supposed to be serving the American People instead of Political Parties "Special Interests".

She certainly should have given more thought to the potential impact of her decision to hand Bush the presidency in Gore V. Bush. I would hope that she feels a little guilty about her obviously partisan decision not to let the PEOPLE decide who should lead our country.

IMHO she has blood on her hands as a result of her decision to install Bush.

Pran

Heres a pretty damn good detail on Election fraud from A to Z
This is a good article for beginners, (and it will get the old timers blood boiling all over again too)

On another note, this article called "The Numbers Behind the Lies", shows how they rig the economic numbers to make the economy look better than it really is
Link here

has anybody tried to use the link at VoteTrustUSA to send a letter to FL Officials in support of Sancho?

I got the email with the following link to VoteTrustUSA, but none of the links to send the letter work for me. Anyone else having problems with it?

Laura,
I did go today to hear Curtis & Miller, & I posted a comment about it on the next thread (I'd re-post it here but I always feel a little weird when I do that)
peace~through~impeachment! - Joan

Thanks Joan I saw it and replied.

Very interested theme, with attention I will read following registration fees.