Dean rocks. He stuck to his guns on the repeated assertion that Democrats "took" money from Jack Abramoff, and it's so obvious that Chris Wallace was being a partisan hack pressing the issue. Dean had to repeat himself 2, 3 times - No Democrats knew money was coming from Abramoff - and No Democrats gave any favors in return for any money. Wallace just didn't want to let that one lie. That's FOX to a goddam T - I'm sure Wallace is got his marching orders that specifically said to push the Democrat involvement, and to challenge ANYTHING Dean said. Which of course he did when he said "Well, we're going to follow up on that." Once again, typical Republican m.o - don't apologize for wrongdoing, just point the finger and say "Well the Democrats did it too." They don't ever have to win a debate (they DON'T ever win a debate) they just have to cloud the issues with unsubstantiated invective, and the wingnuts start frothing at the mouth.

JACK AbramOFF didn't even like Dems. Chris Has a very tough act to follow.

Unfortunately, the best of Chris must have dripped down his dads Leg.

Did Wallace have a stroke or something? Why is his mouth crooked? Maybe it's from all the lies he's spreading!

When the indictments come down, let's count all the Democrats vs. Republicans.

I was a Dean guy, btw, not a Kerry guy. I love Howard Dean. The MSM & GOP did their best to assure Kerry won the primary. Did anyone count the exit polls vs. the electronic machine counts in the Dem primary? I've been saying that for over a year! What's to say the GOP isn't controlling the Dem primary, to get the opponent they want? Anyone ever think of that? Do you think whoever's stealing elections doesn't mess with Democratic primaries? The same F***ing guys are controlling the machines in EVERY election, DUH!!!!!!!!

Why do you think Florida is a republican state when everyone you talk to is voteing Dem.

Wallace: "Governor...Governor, we're running out of MONEY, but..."

Dean: "Yes, we are...Rapidly! So, we need a new party controlling Washington."

So, I guess even FOX News gets the truth out occasionally --- that is, accidentally through Freudian slips.

I'll take Dean's comment a step further:

Bush needs to be arrested and prosecuted.

It looked like Wallace was throwing Dean softballs, Dean is so good and clear on the issues.

Wallace says "we're going to follow up on that", about finding direct ties between any Dems and Abramoff, but that's only posturing.

The whole neocon machine (of which Fox is an instrument) has been champing at the bit to find a Dem to point the finger at, ever since this scandal broke.

With all that power aimed at this one goal, it's my guess that, if there was anything (or anyone) substantial enough to point to, the whole neocon machine would be making a poster-boy out of him by now.

Wallace says they're "going to follow up", but what have they BEEN doing?

Chris' comment is just an attempt to leave the facts hanging, for anyone who wants to fool themselves that this is a bi-party scandal, which it clearly is not.

Dean knocked him flat on his arse.

Score another one for home base!

Doug E

The TV has become such an OFFENSIVE Jack-in-the-Box !

Propaganda * Lies * Sports Buffoons * Political Buffoons

* Snake Oil * Drug Peddlers * Shit Peddlers * Loan Sharks *

I'm Going to Though it in the Trash Tomorrow.

"We're running out of money." No kidding. Good thing there is always other countries like China who are willing to finance the GOP spending spree. What? China isn't going to be doing business with us any more? Hummmm...

What I love is that even some members of the GOP are calling for the White House to come clean on Abramoff!

Don't bother following anything the GOP does, its only to save their own ass. Let them rot and continue to force the removal of the voting machines....

Lets "Dump" Diebold.

Doug E.

Follow everything the GOP does because they are the party in power.

Following what the dems do and constantly criticizing the minority because of the problems those in power are creating is severe Stockholm Syndrome mentality.

Follow what the GOP does and you see neoCons becoming neoConvicts. You see crime, lies, cover up, bribery, obstruction of justice, spying on Americans, destructive wars, and the bankruptcy of American values and goods.

Following the GOP is the same as following the money, the loot, the pillage.

And hold them accountable, not the minority. In November vote to punish the criminals, because the criminals are not going to punish themselves.

The criminals want us to keep beating up on the minority so the republicans can keep on going unnoticed.

Lets dump the republicans as a demonstration of American values in the accountability department.

I agree with Big Dan's comment about the Democratic Primary for Kerry. I didn't care about the Dean scream at all. I heard it over and over and still voted for Howard Dean (speaks the truth)as did all my buddies. Kerry came out of left field to win the nomination. Look for the same to happen with Hillary Clinton. I don't want her for my candidate, but the MSM is convincing all of us that she's a sure thing for when they fix that nomination too. If Al Gore will run as a Democrat or Independent, thats who I will vote for. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR HILLARY. She cannot win.

I would support and vote for anyone over the neoCon fascist criminal element that has taken over the political power of the United States.

Wake up and smell the corruption.

No one could be as bad as the frigging fascists.

Anyone hear any more about the special investigation into the "manipulation of intellegence" leading up to the Iraq conflict (the phase 2 thing)? I was sure we were supposed to have an update months ago.. why is this off the radar again? Didn't we shut down Congress and have a closed door meeting that demanded the investigation proceed?

Talk about having our president follow the law.. how about Congress? WTF is this that we can't get a simple investigation running?

The ticket for 08 election-

Pres.Gore and VP Dean.............

There has been only one more obnoxious person than Chris Wallace in TV broadcasting history. That was Mike Wallace at the same age.

Chris Wallace was born with his mouth wide open and he'll die with it wide open. But his ears remain closed at all times...at least to anything that might threaten his career, like integrity.

Savantster #18

The republican chairman of the republican committee promised, for the second official time, to start hearings. He lied again and the majority can do that. They have not started the hearings they promised over a year ago.

I think we should, like the limp dicks who like to beat old women and homeless folk, blame the democrats for this. I mean they do not have the majority, do not have the presidency, did not promise to do Phase II, and therefore they should be blamed.

The holy righteous republicans who have the house, senate, and the presidency, and who promised to do it are strong and resolute, like The Dick, and therefore it is the democrats fault.

NOT!! NOT!!

Lets stop this neoCon talking point that is working so well ("the dems are not stopping it") and put the friggin blame where it friggin belongs.

The republicans are fucking up the nation, the world, the congress, the presidency, and everything else.

STOP blaming the weak for the wrongs of the strong!!!

Hmm.. wonder if they will use electronic voting machines to determine who wins this election.. I mean, they already set the precident in that there's more votes than voters..

Course, it would be priceless if a DEM won the seat, seeing as how they aren't even on the ballot. Talk about your "smoking gun"..

LilDoggy - I whole heartedly agree! Do you notice the Repub degrade the Dem candidate they can't beat??! Dean was outspoken and could whip gw - hence, he's too loud and embarrassing! Then Kerry - flip flop!! The Repub will push for Hillary - who doesn't have a snowball chance in hell of winning! I am not a political analyst, but can't the dnc see this???

Savantster #22

The only relevant election is coming up very soon. It is the election where the republican criminals will be allowed to keep the house or they will not.

If they do and we do not have a revolution then we will have had the last of America.

Amerika will be here and injustice will prevail. We will see them beat the homeless, the women, the children, and tell themselves how great and glorious they are.

Then they will die very, very quickly. In cosmological terms.

Remember the classic MAD magazines from long ago, where it says what they say out loud, and then a thought bubble what they're really thinking?

"We'll follow up on that" (outloud)

(thought bubble): "You got us, and we're not answering your question...and we're not following up on it"

Wallace looks like "Rainman" in that picture.

"Wopner at 9...Wopner at 9...FOX News at 10...."

Big Dan

Unfortunately a weak opposition is half the entire problem. They've never continually followed in lockstep on anything. The republicans may all be corrupt, but many democrats as well.

None of the real senators have even come in front of the voting machine issue full bore or demanded media for it like Dean has...and they have to in order to bring it into the public.

The very fact that they don't speaks volumes. Both must be punished and all primary challengers for those ineffectual democrats must be supported. In addition to the throwing out of congress and indictments needed, the entire 20 democrats or so who have become ineffectual at opposing anything need to be replaced. There's no other way around it at all.

Doug

I'm glad dean is selling out harry reid for hsi corruption.

Dems want a president who will follow the law. Bullshit! The last one they had was a bigger crook than Nixon. He listened and spied on corporations and committed perjury and had secret FBI files, yet that was okay with libs. also, lots of people around the clintons end up dead or in jail. Why is that?

Earmark Reform... Line Item Veto Not Needed

why can't the process change to set a point where the bill is locked/read and then vote...

step in the right direction to fix part of the problem anyways

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