READER COMMENTS ON
"Tom Feeney, Alleged Election Rigging Conspirator, Op/Eds Against 'Voter Fraud'"
(42 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Phil
said on 10/29/2005 @ 3:48 pm PT...
One piece of solid proof. The right memo, for example. The dominoes could start to fall.
A Rove confession?
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Kezaro
said on 10/29/2005 @ 3:53 pm PT...
So, uh, how does showing an ID at the polls protect from someone screwing with the central tabulator?
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Dredd
said on 10/29/2005 @ 3:58 pm PT...
Well done Brad. I salute you and your words.
Take heed MSM whores (such as enemy helper Novak and Judy Miller), we the people do not believe your lies in support of the criminal fascists now in government.
We have read your lips and you can now read our polls.
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jIM cIRILE
said on 10/29/2005 @ 4:32 pm PT...
hERE'S MY LETTER TO THE sENTINEL:
Dear Editor:
Tom Feeney is a corrupt liar and should not have been given a forum in your paper. He has been convincingly tied to a plan to rig voting machines and to the death of Investigator Raymond Lemme. His latest fraud is a brazen attempt to divert attention from HR 550, the REAL voting reform bill--which if passed would make it very difficult for Feeney and his cronies to rig elections. According to MSNBC, dozens of heavily Democratic Florida counties voted for Bush in 2004 by crazy margins--yet voted Democratic on local issues. This anomaly is statistically impossible and can only be explained one way: voting machine fraud--an analysis supported by the recent GAO report. This is no longer a "conspiracy theory." It is a conspiracy. It's high time someone investigated "Election '04," in particular the role Tom Feeney and Jeb Bush played in the theft of Florida.
Sincerely,
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 10/29/2005 @ 4:32 pm PT...
Tom Feeney editorializing in behalf of honest elections is like Ken Lay defending shareholder rights.
Remember Shakespeare's dictum..."Methinks they doth protest too much."
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Bernie
said on 10/29/2005 @ 4:33 pm PT...
Great op-ed piece, Brad. One small editorial suggestion, in the next-to-last paragraph:
" ... to once again pull the wool over America's (insert "eyes") in his seemingly ..."
Otherwise, well-written and right on target. Florida voters need to make shark bait of Fart-Face Feeney.
I still can't believe that he has a Diebold machine outside his Congressional offices in DC that provides his biographic information. What a shameless shill for the corporate election thieves.
No more private companies counting our votes in secret, using software we can't examine.
Voter-verified paper ballots NOW
Mandatory random manual audits NOW
No wireless communication capability in our voting machines NOW OR EVER AGAIN.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Arry
said on 10/29/2005 @ 4:48 pm PT...
Fine piece, Brad. Thanks for staying right *on* Feeney.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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ChemBob
said on 10/29/2005 @ 4:53 pm PT...
Excellent letter Brad. Concise, accurate, factually referenced and to the point. Thank you for all your efforts.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 10/29/2005 @ 4:55 pm PT...
For Brad and Jim Cirile: Thanks for the heads up.
I too wrote the Orlando Sentinel, asking them why they gave editorial space to a sleaze who was part and parcel of a major election fraud in 2000 and has been involved in ongoing corruption at the Florida Department of Transportation.
Maybe they know something we don't. More probably, we know something they don't.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Cyteria
said on 10/29/2005 @ 6:01 pm PT...
A good effort, and you have the facts, but I would have liked you to tone the piece down just a bit. As it stands, if the Sentinel publishes it, then in my judgment it really is the beginning of the end for the Busholes --but they won't publish it. Understand, we're on the same side, but I'm afraid it is just too outlandish for a paper like the Sentinel. They're going to be wondering if all this stuff is true, why hasn't it been reported on the network news.
I hope I'm wrong, Brad.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 10/29/2005 @ 6:08 pm PT...
Cyteria - Point taken. With an eye to that, I wrote an additional note to them when I sent the note letting them know I'd be more than happy to give them all the specific documentary evidence they need to support any and all of the claims made in the letter. Whether they will or won't run it anyway, is, as you suggest, another issue.
Bernie - Thanks for pointing out my typo there. Have fixed it above. Hopefully the Sentinel will fix it also when they choose to NOT run my letter
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 10/29/2005 @ 6:20 pm PT...
It's time to kick Tom Feeney the hell out of Congress as well!!!!!!!!!!!!
We can together put the FINAL nail in Feeney's coffin, he's been caught like a deer in the headlights for his ridiculous gaming of the election as shown by Clint Curtis.
A Grand Jury must open an investigation immediately. Just like Thomas W. Noe, he can be indicted and thrown out. Its time we force the job to be done. Spread the word and tell everyone at vote trust USA, he's now a desperate man
It's time to put the final nail in election thievery!!
Also I copied this from another post for anyone who ever wants to give up....
"No one knows or can tell america what they think, except the american PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!! And over 50% now in the new AP-Ispos poll, want Bush impeached for lying to CONGRESS.
Lets accept the facts: WE are the ones driving this force!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The blogs, the new media and the extended internet.
If justice lives or it dies, it depends on each one of us!!!!!!!!! Our own complacency or complicity, not anything else. And if every one of us out here in the blog world denounces this vile behavior as a violation of the law and public trust, they WILL BE held accountable. Tom Delay, Harriet Miers, Thomas Noe, Lewis Libby are all GONE thanks to us!!!!!!! Look on the bright side!
They can't come back, either unless WE give up...and unless WE decide the rule of law is worth nothing. Instead, if we keep smashing them into oblivion until they can not move anymore.......THEY WILL LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!! And pay the price
Everyone needs to keep this in mind. Stay on the path of JUSTICE, do not listen to the traitorous trolls, and keep uncovering everything in sight and we'll win and this country will be saved. It's that simple. DO IT, instead of going to the sidelines and complaining."
I think it speaks to the heart of the matter. Everyone should write to the Sentinel, and get Feeney kicked off, and then not only that lets kick him out of congress!!!
>8-)
Doug E.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Cyteria
said on 10/29/2005 @ 6:26 pm PT...
To tell you the truth, Brad, I hadn't expected a response so soon. In fact, I hadn't expected a response! But, if you don't mind some constructive criticism, may I add one more thing? Delete all references to motives --editors dislike that kind of thing. Instead of saying, "Feehy intends x, y, z effects," say instead, "X, y, z will occur if this legislation is adopted." See what I mean? It's important to avoid coming close to ad hominems, even if we both detest the guy. Hope this helps.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 10/29/2005 @ 6:49 pm PT...
Thanks for the thoughts, Cyteria. As I originally began writing it as a blog item, and only decided to make it a letter to the editor about half-way through, I'm sure some of my language *might* have been different if my original intention when I started out had been different.
That said, I've already sent off the letter (prior to posting it here), but I do encourage *you* to send a letter yourself with language that you feel may be better received by the Sentinel!
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Arry
said on 10/29/2005 @ 6:52 pm PT...
May I suggest that our letters to the "Sentinel" also stay within what would be reasonably published by the paper. We have to use every "wedge" possible in a politically practical manner.
So right, Doug. It's us.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Arry
said on 10/29/2005 @ 6:55 pm PT...
Posted mine before I saw Brad's right above it.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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George Walker Bullshit
said on 10/29/2005 @ 8:44 pm PT...
Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Why won't you listen to me?
You people used to stand on the sidelines!
Everybody around me is getting indicted!
The Ohio Republicans are in deep shit with Coingate!
People are starting to believe that John Kerry won Ohio!
Head for the hills! Head for the mountains!
Nobody believes me anymore! Back to my LSD!
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/29/2005 @ 10:42 pm PT...
These faux-Republicans are totally inept (on purpose ???) at making "voter fraud" non-existant. Here's the way I see it:
I get a Voter Registration Card that has my legal name and address on it. I take that with my piece of ID (in GA you can take a utility bill WHICH HAS YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON IT, or a TAX RETURN --- which also has YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS ON IT) to the precinct and they then (for some weird reason) check to see if I'm on THEIR list. (I have my registration card ... I also was turned away from voting in a local election prior to 2004 Presidential election because - even though I had my voter registration card which told me which precinct to vote in, I was not on THEIR LIST. That was shameful on their part, wasn't it?)
OK --- they have my Registration Card and another piece of Identification that corroborates I am who I say I am. Damn. Isn't that all you need?
For Tom Feeney's Op-Ed --- He AND the Orlando Sentinel wrote with a heavy bias toward the NeoCON spin. I found on D-Kos a post and copy of the Sun-Sentinel article (now unavailable at their site) which Feeney based some of his Op-Ed figures on:
The Orlando Sentinel Article
[snip] The vast majority of them have not voted in two states, but aggressive campaigns to encourage absentee voting makes it easier for those who are registered in two states to double vote. [snip]
Absentee voters should have a Voter Registration Card and ID of some sort that corroborates the info. Why not simply TAKE the VOTER REGISTRATION CARD at that time? Trade your Voter Registration Card for a ballot. How about that?
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/29/2005 @ 10:46 pm PT...
Oops! Sorry, Brad, I meant to say, "Kudos for the great Counter Op/Ed piece you wrote!" Great work.
I'm still trying to go through Feeney's piece to see what I can find real documents for. They make us work so hard, don't they? Evil bastards.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/29/2005 @ 10:53 pm PT...
Additionally to my thoughts tonight --- give each Voter Registration Card, VRC, (the one mailed to each voter) a unique number. At the end of the voting day - check the number of VRCs against the number of ballots to see if they match.
Is this plausible?
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 10/30/2005 @ 3:05 am PT...
If all this goes where we think it should go (and it will eventually), I hope Feeney keeps bringing this up, so when the shit hits the fan, it puts him right in the middle of it, that will blow his ass straight to jail first.
Great job Brad
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 10/30/2005 @ 5:49 am PT...
I am wondering if Feeney wants to be the next DeLay or to dump DeLay?
Note that the indictment storm has now put moderate republican against the neoCon and neoConvict infested white house (link here).
It may also put neoCon v neoConvict and even neoCon v neoCon.
They will probably see it as a purifying process ... only the "good" neoCons like Feeney will be left standing. (I just noticed the "left standing" phrase too )
Is Feeney attempting to look as if he is moving away from the right and toward the middle?
Just so he can be left standing when the dust settles?
If so, the polls show that he would be moving in the direction of the people. That is, moving toward what the people want vs what oil barons want.
If so, that puts the burden on us to keep the spotlight on the lies and crimes of the neoCons so they cannot go underground and hide out during this cleansing that is going on.
We must help the republicans get rid of the infection they have suffered by the likes of Libby, DeLay, Noe, etc., etc., etc., etc. ad nauseum.
And we must not let them hide in the parties the rest of us identify with.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Kelly
said on 10/30/2005 @ 12:36 pm PT...
I recently tried to explain Clint Curtis to my father and he stated that it was the most ridiculous thing he ever heard and that there is no way a conspiracy of this magnitude could possibly happen in the United States. As long as the MSM remains silent on the issue, the majority of Americans will not believe how corrupt the current regime is. Thank you Brad for staying on these people all along. I hope in the near future one of these media cowards finally grows a pair and prints the truth.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 10/30/2005 @ 2:38 pm PT...
Kelly: You can help by easily printing the story that shows Clint Curtis passed a lie-detector test and show the confirmed affidavits about the vote flipping software.
Take it everywhere, not just your dad, but leave copies in public places....spread the whisper campaign everywhere you want as the corporate media becomes irrelevant....
Feeney's a crook, lets get him knocked out. There's nothing redeemable in his laughable election "bills" and he wants increased VOTER PURGES all across the board......
Doug E.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 10/30/2005 @ 5:08 pm PT...
Kelly: Not to disparage your father's intelligence, but please have him follow us here:
1) Feeney is a lobbyist for Yang Enterprises, which wants to do business with the Florida Department of Transportation, an organization which had long been associated with Republican party cronyism.
2) In 2000, Feeney persuades Yang to ask Curtis, one of their programmers (and a Republican) to design a software program TO PREVENT FRAUD BY DEMOCRATS IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
3) Curtis designs the prototype, not realizing it would be used TO PERMIT REPUBLICAN FRAUD.
4) The Republicans steal the 2000 election in Florida, using computer software methods similar to those designed by Curtis, who didn't realize what his software prototype would be used for.
5) Curtis resigns from Yang Enterprises. He is asked to stay on until a replacement can be found. He does so, then leaves and goes to work for the Florida D.O.T. He is later fired for blowing the whistle on fraud there.
6) Yang Enterprises is implicated in fraud regarding contracts with the Department of Transportation. One of its employees, Henry Nee, is an illegal alien who admits to spying for China.
7) In part because of Feeney's political clout, Nee is let off with a token sentence.
8) Raymond Lemme, a Florida D.O.T. inspector, tells Curtis "corruption goes all the way to the top" at the Florida D.O.T., and he is about to expose it. Presumably, by "the top" he means Jeb Bush (Feeney had been Jeb's former running mate in a losing gubernatorial race, after which the victorious candidate, Lawton Chiles, refers to Feeney as "the David Duke of Florida politics."
9) On July 1, 2003, Lemme is murdered in Valdosta, Georgia, a place he had no reason to visit. The murder is disguised as a suicide. Georgia, where his body was found, has no mandatory autopsy law, unlike Florida (Lemme lived and worked in Tallahassee, Florida). No autopsy is performed. The official ruling is "suicide," but the timeline and other facts preclude that possibility.
10) Largely due to the efforts of Brad Friedman, the Valdosta P.D. agrees to reopen the case and reconsider its finding of suicide.
11) Almost immediately, the Florida D.O.T. intercedes, and persuades the Valdosta P.D. to shut down the investigation again.
Kelly, if your father is can look at these facts and still believes the whole thing is a ridiculous conspiracy theory, I would respectfully suggest you change his medication.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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dan tastic dan
said on 10/31/2005 @ 7:12 am PT...
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Phil
said on 10/31/2005 @ 7:35 am PT...
Kelly, my best friend's Mom is the same way (not meaning to be presumptuous). She watches cable constantly. She thinks Pubs look trustworthy and Dems look shady. She wouldn't have a pot to pee in after her divorce were it not for social programs of the Dems, but she can't stand Dems. She thinks criticism re. the Iraq war and the Stolen Election = paranoia. I think she assumes that the MSM would never lie or conceal the truth.
The great thing about the truth is that time is on its side. Otherwise, it would be hard not to fall into despair sometimes.
I told some Pubs on a forum the other day about the ABC news reporter who filmed a guy putting multiple ballots into a box in Iraq. I pointed out that reportedly, this film was never shown by ABC. I pointed out the obvious: if they would not show this fraud that happened right in front of them, how can we believe that they would fairly cover Stolen Election allegations?
The answer was the usual accusations of whining.
A lot of times, the truth has few friends. But what makes it strong is that the truth is everybody's friend in the long run, even if they don't know it.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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steve cannell
said on 10/31/2005 @ 7:37 am PT...
Yeah, all this shit makes sense, just let anyone vote that claims the right, no proof of registration, proof of identity, etc. The opponets to voter ID are staging a cheap ploy to use their self-serving masses to facilitate their election stealing because they can't actually win it. You should be ashamed.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/31/2005 @ 8:10 am PT...
Steve Cannell #28 --- *Knock*Knock* ... *Clink*Clink* ... *Tink*Tink* ... *tink* I guess nobody's home in that tiny GoPee brainwashed head.
When you fill out a Voter Registration Card you must give your address, DL number OR SSN OR if you don't have one of those (as I just noticed by looking at Voter Registration Cards online) you will be assigned a unique ID number. NOW --- it's up to the BOE to make sure THEIR list is in order.
When you check in at your precinct, bring something that corroborates the information you gave when you registered to vote. A tax return or a utility bill or a W-4.
BUT HEY!!! HOW about the CARD you receive in the mail AFTER you register to vote? It has the UNIQUE number on it ALREADY!!!!!
Since it's already a cross-check ... you don't friggin' need a photo ID.
STEVE CANNELL --- you and the rest of the (possibly unwitting) GESTAPO should be ashamed.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/31/2005 @ 8:17 am PT...
PS --- (re: #28) --- What a funny remark, "staging a cheap ploy to use their self-serving masses to facilitate their election stealing because they can't actually win it." Hey Steve --- you're talking about your neoCON party ... you know ... the ones who stole TWO elections because they couldn't win. You guys are in the minority ... you've NEVER been the majority. So sad --- BUT TRUE!!!
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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PIZZA MAN
said on 10/31/2005 @ 8:18 am PT...
WHAT A LAIR! WE've got the testimony on tape he was in the front of the vote rigging scandal. What the f is up with America. Convict these crooks not this she said she said shit. I say take the matters into your own hands people! Don't let them get away with this BS and lies. You have the power to exterminate them from your thoughts and end their existance of lies! Quit your jobs! www.URBANTERRORISTS.COM {ed note: Comment Edited --- SPAM and pornography}
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 10/31/2005 @ 10:04 am PT...
The annual worldwide press freedom index from Reporters Without Borders shows the United States, which is supposedly spreading freedom and liberty throughout the world, is in a fast decline regarding the freedom of its own press.
The report ranked the United States in 44th place, an atomic drop from a favorable position of 22nd held last year, and from a handsome 17th place in 2002 (link here).
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 10/31/2005 @ 10:27 am PT...
Amazing we made 44th place
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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emma
said on 10/31/2005 @ 11:08 am PT...
Kelly,
Well, thank goodness I am not the only one. I tried to explain the entire mess to my mother and she just rolled her eyes at me and told me I spend too much time reading this "nonsense". I wanted to jump out of my skin. I have printed out every single item on this subject and I'm going to do a synopsis of it and like Doug said....I'm going to leave it EVERYWHERE. I just can't stand the thought that I'm not doing anything about all of this and this is something I CAN do!
Emma
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 10/31/2005 @ 12:31 pm PT...
Do any of these moms and dads ever look at facts? There seems to be an endemic laziness affecting large segments of the population, and Florida might be the epicenter of that phenomenon.
Tom Feeney ran unopposed in Florida last time. How can it be that a man described by the governor of the state as "the David Duke of Florida politics," a man closely identified with corruption in the Florida Department of Transportation and lobbyist for a company that employed a spy for China, can't inspire a single Democrat to oppose him?
When I went to Florida to serve as a pollwatcher a year ago, I stayed at my daughter's house in Lithia, a community outside Tampa. She lives in a neighborhood of similar homes, which were dominated by Bush/Cheney signs. I thought, "Can all these people be Republicans?"
Then, while walking Katie's dog the Monday before Election Day, I noticed something. Two women were walking down the connecting streets, checking out the lawn signs and taking notes on a clipboard as they went. They wore Bush/Cheney buttons. My guess was (I can't prove it) that they had planted the signs themselves and were making sure no one had taken them down.
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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Arry
said on 10/31/2005 @ 3:34 pm PT...
Kinda OT, but, speaking of parents, my dad was dying in a hospital bed during the Watergate hearings. He told me he thought there was a cancer advancing in the nation (just as it was in him) and we were close to losing everything valuable. He hoped the Ervin hearings would spark a renaissance of values, but he knew we had to stamp out the exponentially expanding and enveloping dishonesty. "Don't let those @&!*&'s get a foot in the door ever again," he said.
Well we did. We weren't thorough and were too distracted. We have endured 30 years of dumbing down and refining of dishonesty and propaganda and have let in the wolves.
That the current pack have likely gained access illegally does not exonerate the public. The lies are blatant and obvious, the corruption palpable. What kind of standards do we hold (have we held) our "representatives" to? What kind of standards do we apply to elections? Does the distracted public have any standards at all, or is the idea to let ethics and the workings of democracy be in the (proprietary, secretive) hands of corporations and politicians?!
Beyond the specific instances of election fraud, there is the simple matter of standards and civic responsibility.
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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Arry
said on 10/31/2005 @ 3:45 pm PT...
That is, "That the current pack has likely gained access..." Call me obsessed, but those grammatical errors that crop up every time in my quick postings drive me nuts - like a pebble in my shoe.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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emma
said on 10/31/2005 @ 4:07 pm PT...
# 35...Robert Lockwood Mills....
Obviously not but give us credit for TRYING to educate them. The ignorance is pervasive but try to look at the good side of this....despite our parents we think for ourselves and do our own research!!! She's difficult and set in her ways but already I find her asking questions. She has her bridge club that she chats with as well and if everyone just took the time to educate just those around us we'd accomplish so much!! Just 20 minutes ago she was looking through all the items I printed out for her and I saw her marking items and making notes.
Emma
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 10/31/2005 @ 5:05 pm PT...
A promising sign, Emma. Let's hope there are thousands more grandmas and grandpas taking notes.
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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colleenmilitarymom
said on 10/31/2005 @ 6:29 pm PT...
Feeney was the first for me.
Brad and crew here made me see the light.
Thanks for not giving up, Brad.
Fucking Feeney is a full time job.
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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Glenn McGahee
said on 11/2/2005 @ 6:30 am PT...
Just learned that our "permanently appointed Secretary of State", Glenda Hood, has resigned for "personal reasons". She was appointed to replace Katherine Harris by Gov. Jeb Bush after the 2000 nonelection. Guess she has purged all she could and will go into hiding before Katherine Harris' bid for Senate begins this year. Think of the attention they are all gonna get. This is our chance to bring back Clint Curtis and Feeney into the media limelight. Keep it up Brad. We are spreading the word about your site all over South Florida any way we can. How bout those bumper stickers: "read www.BRADBLOG.com"
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 11/2/2005 @ 1:06 pm PT...
Good news about Glenda Hood. That's one fewer roadblock to the truth...unless, of course, Katherine Harris resigns her seat in the House and takes her old job back.
Don't laugh, folks. It's possible. Cruella Devil can see the G.O.P.s fortunes declining along with everybody else (except a few of our trolls). Her chances for the Senate look bleaker by the minute. But as long as little brother Jeb is in charge in Tallahassee she can have any job there she wants. It's that loyalty thing with the Bushes, you know.
I better stop now. She might be reading this.