READER COMMENTS ON
"NEWS YOU MIGHT HAVE MISSED"
(23 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Bejammin075
said on 4/4/2005 @ 9:49 pm PT...
While the 24-7 Jackson-Schiavo-Pope-a-thon continues, I'm amazed at how often articles like this prove the irrelevance of the main stream media.
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Bejammin075
said on 4/4/2005 @ 9:58 pm PT...
CNN Headline News was actually doing a segment today on the network coverage (ABC, CBS, NBC), and criticized 2 of the 3 for not having interupted significant amounts of programming to cover the Pope-a-thon. They actually put a big red X on 2 of the network symbols. Apparently, they only had mainly 1 segment a night in the nightly news broadcast. The segment implied that they disrespected the pope by not stopping everything for nonstop coverage.
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horkus
said on 4/4/2005 @ 11:13 pm PT...
Excerpt from Thom Hartmann at Common Dreams
Published October 2002:
Which led me to wonder: How would things change if Saddam, tomorrow, were to say, “I’ve decided to put my oil reserves up for auction to the highest corporate bidder, and, like many other oil-producing nations, all I want is a commission from the oil company that wins the auction.”
Once the stampede was over, I’ll bet the US would discover that there are dozens of dictators in the world more vicious than Saddam. Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe, for example, has engineered a cynical strategy of racial exploitation that has pushed six million of his citizens into famine today. Burma’s ruling junta has turned that nation into a slave-labor camp, where torture, executions, and terror are daily fare. And in North Korea, the policies of dictator-for-life Kim Jong-Il have turned a formerly fertile and prosperous land into a concentration camp where people are forced to eat grass to survive, and anybody who questions the great leader’s brilliance is executed. There is no shortage of “evil” leaders of nations – the list could go on for pages.
Of course, none of these nations have oil.
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 4/5/2005 @ 2:08 am PT...
Has anyone considered the possibility that Robert Mugabe and Kenneth Blackwell are one and the same person?
The do look a bit alike. Their attitudes toward free elections are very similar. Their contempt for public opinion is identical.
Has anyone ever seen them together? If not, that might clinch it.
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supersoling
said on 4/5/2005 @ 4:05 am PT...
Our regime is *the* worst in the world in my opinion because it commits vastly larger and more deadly crimes throughout the world, cloaked in the name of democracy and compassionate conservatism. With the coronation of Paul "the comb licker" Wolfowitz to head the World Bank, the crimes will only become more frequent and hideous. This alone is another direct slap in the face of thoughtful people all over the world.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Teresa
said on 4/5/2005 @ 4:48 am PT...
Supersoling, the World Bank, the IMF. the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, and all these elitist people that are behind these deadly crimes are from all over the world.
And there is some indication that Wolfowitz has become a liability and he was sent to that position to get him out of the way.
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Bob Bilse
said on 4/5/2005 @ 10:11 am PT...
Several mentions of Bush on vacation - doesn't really matter much, since he's not really running the country, anyway.
RE: Wolfowitz being appointed to head the World Bank. Does anyone really believe that Bush had any choice in the matter? I surely don't. It's more like Wolfowitz, et al, appointed Bush to be president. He one of the many faces of "Beelzebush", which is not GWB, it's a syndicate..
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Robert Lockwood Mills
said on 4/5/2005 @ 11:38 am PT...
Wolfowitz is a ridiculous choice, but I think the larger question is, "Why does Bush get to decide?"
He doesn't choose the Secretary-General of the U.N., does he?
World Bank? I think a better name would be "Bank for American Global Imperatives."
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Teresa
said on 4/5/2005 @ 12:06 pm PT...
I am so glad you brough this up, Jaime.
This was in my local paper, which covers a lot of important stories. The newspapers are not under government control. They think that not enough people are reading them.
Under Mugabe, Zimbabwe's economy has dropped 50% and there is 70% unemployment there.
I read an article that put Saddam Hussein in the middle of the pack as far as brutality in the world's current dictatorships.
Our regime is benign compared to many, many in this world.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 4/5/2005 @ 1:19 pm PT...
Teresa #4, I have to agree with Supersoling at #6..
While we don't have the kind of unconceivable atrocities here that other countries do, those other countries don't have a strangle-hold on world markets either. And they aren't out there rampantly fiddling with other countries politics/economies like we do. While "bush" might not be as "vile a dictator" as many others, our 'government' is one of the worst out there in that we praise democracy and hard work, but reward facisim and slavery..
The biggest difference is, our regime lets "us" stay out of being in total dire straits like those other countries because they know that on our backs is the only way to remain dominant in the global marketplace. If we fall to 3rd world status and unemployment hits 70% and our economy fell 50%, they'd not be able to continue meddeling all over the world, and would lose they financal foot-hold. If the U.S.A "fell", they'd not have anyone to protect their companies, since that's about all our government does these days.
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Teresa
said on 4/5/2005 @ 3:40 pm PT...
Would you be willing to go to 70% unemployment to have a government that didn't meddle in the world?
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Teresa
said on 4/5/2005 @ 3:43 pm PT...
I am not denying the vileness of our government, I am pointing out that the corporate cartels that rule the world are international.
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Teresa
said on 4/5/2005 @ 3:54 pm PT...
The United States is a pawn in a much larger game. Bush, Wolfowitz, and the rest of them are getting orders from elsewhere.
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Mark Lloyd Baker
said on 4/5/2005 @ 3:56 pm PT...
Robert #5. I think you may be onto something.
Robert #9, and Horkus #3.
The March 21st DemocracyNow! piece on Greg Palast's recent BBC report explains what happened with Wolfowitz and Iraq's oil. (The transcript's a quick read. You can still watch the video as well.)
We can make a pretty good guess about what would have happened had Saddam tried to sell off Iraq's oil, because that's exactly what Wolfowitz wanted to do. Big Oil stopped him because the move would have weakened OPEC (Wolfowitz' intent), and brought down oil prices/profits, which was of course not acceptable to the oil companies.
So it seems that George W. Bush didn't decide to remove Wolfowitz from the Pentagon, Phill Caroll, former CEO of Shell did.
Caroll was brought in as an adviser by the Bush admin. before the invasion. He makes his position plain as day:
There were models everywhere from the total privatization to partial privatization, etc., etc. There were all sorts of ideas floated about the economy of Iraq and what ought to be done. I was very clear that there was to be no privatization of Iraqi oil resources or facilities while I was involved.
End of statement.
Another amazingly candid statement in Palast's report came from Robert Ebel, CSIS State Department, formerly CIA:
The thought was, why are you going into Iraq. It's about oil isn't it? And my response was, no it's about getting rid of Saddam Hussein. The morning after, it's about oil.
Interesting that he didn't even bother with the b.s. about WMD or the supposed threat Iraq posed to the U.S.
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Teresa
said on 4/5/2005 @ 4:29 pm PT...
Mark Lloyd, I read that piece and I was fascinated. That's why I think the PNAC/neocon crowd is out of the game now. I belive that the Wolfowitz position isn't powerful. Just an empty frontman job.
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Bob Bilse
said on 4/5/2005 @ 5:38 pm PT...
I hope you're right, but I think PNAC is just getting started.
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Peggy
said on 4/5/2005 @ 6:34 pm PT...
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Peggy
said on 4/5/2005 @ 7:01 pm PT...
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Peg C
said on 4/5/2005 @ 9:23 pm PT...
I'm certain that we need an Open Thread. Attention, surrogate Brads!!!!!
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Teresa
said on 4/5/2005 @ 10:06 pm PT...
I believe there has only been one democracy in human historty, and that was ancient Greece.
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Peg C
said on 4/5/2005 @ 10:20 pm PT...
Teresa -
That's because they'd thought about governance philosophically and had come to logical rather than self-interested conclusions. Like our own founding fathers.
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Teresa
said on 4/5/2005 @ 10:37 pm PT...
Ours is a republic, as you know, not a democracy.
And it is really interesting how the founders set it up. The didn't want a democracy because they wanted to protect the rights of the minority. That's why they set up the three branches as a system of checks and balances.
The judiciary was created to protect that minority. They always had a recourse that way, and an advocate for their rights.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Tzu
said on 4/10/2005 @ 2:45 pm PT...
They news media paid little attention to this guy until he took land from a bunch of white rich guys and gave it to poor black guys. He’s been a deteriorating politician for a long time. Had he not provided land reform (Which he only promised 10 years before he actually delivered it) even fraudulent elections wouldn’t have helped him. The real offense to the mainstream press is favoring poor people over rich. He warranted little attention until that happened.