Irony-Drenched Quote of the Moment

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“We want democracy in Lebanon to succeed. And we know it cannot succeed so long as she is occupied by a foreign power,” Bush added.

Yes, he actually said it. And yes, our head may soon explode…

(Via the eagle-eyed Mixter at WatchingTheWatchers.org!)

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  1. 1)
    Natasha said on 3/6/2005 @ 11:26am PT: [Permalink]

    When I read this article in the Washington Post, I couldn’t believe my eyes, I had to re-read it. I have no response to this…

  2. 3)
    Peg C said on 3/6/2005 @ 11:33am PT: [Permalink]

    I heard him say something similar a couple of days ago. While out brains explode, Brad, his goes entirely numb. We need the world to help us rid the planet of this deadly pestilence: leprosy of the cerebral cortex.

  3. 4)
    Peg C said on 3/6/2005 @ 11:39am PT: [Permalink]

    One thing about leprosy: the afflicted body part loses all sensation, making injury to it next to inevitable. Fingers and toes gnawed by rats, hands burned in the cooking fire – you get the picture. * would never even notice if a rat ate his brain or a vacuum cleaner sucked it out through his nostrils while he was asleep.

  4. 5)
    frankenbush (64.12.116.74) said on 3/6/2005 @ 11:45am PT: [Permalink]

    We are so lucky to have GW Bush in the White House. Freedom is spilling out all over the middle east and yes, today on Stephanoupolis, Ted Kennedy even congragulated Bush on his victory!

    So all you nitwits have been proven wrong and millions would still be living under tyranny if you were in "charge".

    YOU LOSERS!

  5. 6)
    frankenbush (64.12.116.74) said on 3/6/2005 @ 11:50am PT: [Permalink]

    YOU are ALL LOSERS!

    Bush is in the White House; Republicans own the Senate and House!

    Even Hillary Clinton is becoming a prolife conservative just to keep her job!

    You socialist Democratic Underground nut cases here should just stay in Canada!

  6. 7)
    czaragorn said on 3/6/2005 @ 11:51am PT: [Permalink]

    I myself think that SOB should get 50 million bags of pretzels in the mail on 19 March. Come on, people, we can at least do this – you don’t have to write "CHOKE ON ME" on each pretzel – just send off a bag – 50 million bags would fill bunch of semis…

  7. 8)
    frankenbush (64.12.116.74) said on 3/6/2005 @ 11:51am PT: [Permalink]

    Ted Kennedy today on stephanoupolis:

    1) congratulated Bush on his victory in Iraq and bringing profound CHANGE to the middle east and

    2) admitted he is a bible reading new testamount believing CHRISTIAN!

    Another Democrat switching to GOD to stay elected!

  8. 9)
    frankenbush (64.12.116.74) said on 3/6/2005 @ 11:53am PT: [Permalink]

    czaragon: GET OUT OF MY AMERICA YOU worthless vagabond! YOU do not DESERVE our FREEDOM!

  9. 12)
    peterpont said on 3/6/2005 @ 11:57am PT: [Permalink]

    Ugh! the bible -thumping idiots are out today.
    Bush and company ideas on Democracy-Let us handle everything-while others lose everything.
    See how easy you have it Frankenloser!
    Peter

  10. 13)
    frankenbush (64.12.116.74) said on 3/6/2005 @ 12:01pm PT: [Permalink]

    BUSH WINS: YOU LOSERS LOSE!

    Syria will start a pullout of its forces in Lebanon to the Bekaa Valley on Monday, Lebanese Defence Minister Abd al-Rahim Murad said.

    "The withdrawal starts tomorrow," Murad said on Sunday, adding that forces would retreat from northern Lebanon and Mount Lebanon in accordance with the Taif Accord that ended Lebanon’s 1975-90 civil war. He said the pullback would start immediately after a meeting in Damascus between the leaderships of both countries to approve a withdrawal plan announced on Saturday by Syrian President Bashar al-Asad.

    BUSH WINS ANOTHER ROUND!

    GOD BLESS YOU GW BUSH!

  11. 14)
    frankenbush (64.12.116.74) said on 3/6/2005 @ 12:06pm PT: [Permalink]

    TED KENNEDY = BIBLE READER

    TODAY TED KENNEDY ADMITTED ON GEORGE STEPHANOUPOLIS MORNING SHOW THAT YES HE DOES INDEED BELIEVE IN GOD AND READS THE BIBLE!

    THE LEFT WINGS FURTHEST LEFT WING KOOK IS A BIBLE READER!

  12. 15)
    horkus said on 3/6/2005 @ 12:19pm PT: [Permalink]

    Hey people, I think Atty Jimmo/Taco Tom is back. I guess Frankenbush is his handle now. The MO appears to be similar. Welcome back Attorney man. What would America be without a difference of opinion? I truly hope you’ll stick around Mr. Frankenbush. Just remember Brad’s policy. He won’t censor comments, but he will censor vulgar abusive statements. And try to get Paul to come back too. Last I read, he was trying to defend a certain gay male prostitute who was able to enter the Whitehouse through the "back door". Hey, I’m all for defending the gays if that’s the Republican "position".

  13. 16)
    frankenbush (64.12.116.74) said on 3/6/2005 @ 12:19pm PT: [Permalink]

    http://www.jeffgannon.com/

    JEFF GANNON IS "OUTING" BIDEN!

    UNBELIEVABLE!

    The left wing went after a gay journalist and now he is MAD! He is starting to OUT his secrets at this blog site!!!!!

  14. 17)
    frankenbush (64.12.116.74) said on 3/6/2005 @ 12:20pm PT: [Permalink]

    http://www.jeffgannon.com/

    JEFF GANNON IS "OUTING" BIDEN!

    UNBELIEVABLE!

    The left wing went after a gay journalist and now he is MAD! He is starting to OUT his secrets at this blog site!!!!!

  15. 18)
    frankenbush (64.12.116.74) said on 3/6/2005 @ 12:22pm PT: [Permalink]

    4:17AM

    I watched a clip of Sen. Joe Biden on Bill Maher’s HBO crapfest. I wonder why he didn’t mention meeting me some years ago. C’mon Joe, think…

    http://www.jeffgannon.com/

  16. 19)
    BUSHISRIGHT! (64.12.116.74) said on 3/6/2005 @ 12:26pm PT: [Permalink]

    Syria will start a pullout of its forces in Lebanon to the Bekaa Valley on Monday, Lebanese Defence Minister Abd al-Rahim Murad said.

    "The withdrawal starts tomorrow," Murad said on Sunday, adding that forces would retreat from northern Lebanon and Mount Lebanon in accordance with the Taif Accord that ended Lebanon’s 1975-90 civil war. He said the pullback would start immediately after a meeting in Damascus between the leaderships of both countries to approve a withdrawal plan announced on Saturday by Syrian President Bashar al-Asad.

    *****Another two bit terrorist running away from Bush.

  17. 20)
    czaragorn said on 3/6/2005 @ 12:33pm PT: [Permalink]

    Vagabond, #9 Frankentwat? It’s OUR America, of, by, and for the people. The rest of the world doesn’t hate us for our freedom, they hate us because of people like you. Go dig yourself a grave, pal – I’ll happily piss on it…

  18. 22)
    Peg C said on 3/6/2005 @ 12:43pm PT: [Permalink]

    What I resent the most is the wasted space. And the time spent scrolling past. It must be a really boring Sunday somewhere in Amerika.

    Czaragorn – Peace.

  19. 23)
    Brad said on 3/6/2005 @ 12:50pm PT: [Permalink]

    Frankenbush/Bushisright! – Please pick one name and stick with it, or your comments will be deleted. Your IP address has been added to your posts above so that people can see that you are posting with different names.

    It would also be appreciated if you did not spam the comments over and over with the same information.

    Say whatever you like, but it would be appreciated if you were respectful to other commenters, and of course, used one single user name. It would be swell if you didn’t force me to behave like your kindergarten teacher.

    Thank you.

  20. 24)
    Teresa said on 3/6/2005 @ 12:51pm PT: [Permalink]

    We are in the midst of theater of the absurd right now, but give it a minute. We all know, worldwide how pathetic George Bush is. People coddle, him for some reason. He is mentally disabled and infantile, and I’m sure most people are just waiting for him to be gone. He isn’t dangerous. He’s simply an expendable pawn. It’s all a game. He has 0 influence over Middle Eastern affairs.

    The situation in Lebanon has absolutely nothing to do with Gearge Bush. It has to do with age old conflicts from within, and with Syria, and Israel who is trying to annex part of Lebanon. There will be continuing conflict there, and all throughout the Middle East. We will leave, most likely in defeat. The illusion of George’s talent at liberation is just about to hit the wall of reality.

    How foolish he is, and all the people who weakly mimic one another and try to sing his praises.

    Really!

  21. 25)
    Teresa said on 3/6/2005 @ 1:04pm PT: [Permalink]

    FYI…here is a statement that might illuminate and clarify the situation somewhat. It is important to be factual and patient in all of this childish hysteria, and irresponsible American leadership.

    >Hello again,
    I have read the articles by Juan Cole and Sam Hamoud. They are impressive, but they speak of half truths. From the population count of Lebanon today to the Falange carrying English signs in the "demonstrations of only 3000." I have held back until now because I feel everybody’s opinion is worth reading. Just be careful of those who give you the so called "facts."
    I was born in Beirut, reared in Beirut and speak and read the language. I do not think that Hariri was "forced’ to resign. He resigned because President Lahoud was allowed to extend his term, thanks to the Syrian controlled Lebanese parliament and cabinet which changed the Lebanese Constitution in order to allow such an extension. The way I hear it and read it, the MOST of Lebanon is sick of the Syrian "CIA" in Lebanon, and if you read your history all the way back, the Lebanese are a fractious bunch who hate everybody. Nobody has really been able to totally dominate the country for any length of time. And incidentally, they are not Phoenicians, although the extreme Right Wing Christians of the country wanted and still want you to think they are. Historical research says otherwise. Like their Phoenician cousins, however, the Lebanese…and I mean all the Lebanese…are not only very sophisticated merchants, but quite politically savvy. Most Lebanese are able to speak three languages with varying degrees of fluency, and will learn what ever language it takes to close the deal economically. Merchants of the highest order. Most of the placards in that demonstration were in both Arabic and English. And yes, they played to the camera, because they knew the whole world was watching.
    And yes, we all know that the CIA helped bring on the wars of 1958 and there after. And we know that Israel has always wanted southern Lebanon as part of Greater Israel (the Litani River in snowy, southern Lebanon is the originating source of the Jordan River). Control the Jordon at it source, control Palestine. And we know that it would suit Israel to have the Syrians pull back from Lebanon. And we know that the US supports an Israeli foreign policy, BUT the Lebanese have grown weary of Syria. They are in effect saying to Syria that "we thank your for your help during the Civil War," (if one could really call it that…more like a testing ground of all that was to come in the Middle East after that war, a rehearsal of sorts by all the major powers) "but now it’s time to leave. And we are going to try and Lebanese-ize the major part of Hezbollah in the South…" The majority of the Lebanese Opposition Party cuts across cultural, religious, economic boundries. It is gaining strength. They will agree with god or the devil (political pragmatists, the Lebanese; never forget that)if it gets the Syrians out of Lebanon. They will play ball with Condi, Sharon, Assad and Putin if it gets the Syrians out of Lebanon.

  22. 26)
    Robert Lockwood Mills said on 3/6/2005 @ 1:10pm PT: [Permalink]

    George W. Bush cannot spell the word freedom, let alone distinguish it from the word liberty.

    "Freedom" is code for "free markets" or "free enterprise." "Liberty" means the right to opt out of either, or join in, as a given country sees fit.

    In the case of Iraq, for them to opt out is not acceptable to the United States, because of a prized commodity called oil. If we substitute the word "liberty" every time we hear Bush utter the word "freedom," we’ll understand what’s going on over there.

  23. 27)
    Teresa said on 3/6/2005 @ 1:47pm PT: [Permalink]

    I think we are at the point where we must extricate ourselves from the hype and the fear, in order to become really influential. Ignore the politicians. They aren’t concerned with us. Unless any of them show any potential. Most of them are afraid of the teacher. And most are afraid or their own lack of power. That’s how they got in these positions. We’ve got to take this into our own hands.
    But, I repeat, we will have more power if we voraciously educate ourselves, outside of the pesky ego problems, and try to get to the truth. That’s what we are doing here. Sharing knowledge and ideas. Not cowering under some impending doom. And like Brad says, making the truth fun.

  24. 28)
    Peggy said on 3/6/2005 @ 2:02pm PT: [Permalink]

    No one cares what GWB says. I don’t – nor does Russia, Europe, China – or even Lebanon for that matter. GWB is a moron – and guns in the hands of morons puts everyone in danger. However, GWB is also a coward, along with his greedy corporate cronies – their time in power is limited – and our goal is that their time in jail will be unlimited. America can’t afford to continue to let their country be highjacked by morons. America has lost the respect of the entire world, and placed the safety and security of its citizens in extreme danger throughout the world. It will not regain any respect during this generation, and will not regain respect ever unless it puts a stop to this nonsense which makes all Americans look totally ridiculous and completely vulnerable – militarily, economically and otherwise. If GWB is the best you can do, then I’m afraid you are FINISHED!

  25. 29)
    Teresa said on 3/6/2005 @ 2:12pm PT: [Permalink]

    Exactly, Peggy #28.

    And don’t forget, in this great success at enforcing demockracy, an Italian government agent was just murdered by the USA. Are we in another smokescreen, today?

  26. 30)
    Miss Persistent said on 3/6/2005 @ 2:34pm PT: [Permalink]

    It is also ironic that the majority of U.S. citizens won’t be able to experience Democracy again either…until he and his (also uninvited) fellow partiers decide to un-occupy the oval office and it’s wings.

    I suppose we shouldn’t be surprised, he barged into both terms uninvited by most of us Americans. He wants to PARTY! Well, the clean-up afterward won’t be pretty, and we’ll suffer the consequences that the uninvited guests always leave behind and have never had to face up to, but, all in all, it’ll be quite do-able.

  27. 31)
    cheryl said on 3/6/2005 @ 2:36pm PT: [Permalink]

    Hi all!
    I’m back….actually, we all know that the trolls only come out when they’re feeling threatened. And the only response they have are insults. So Brad, what have you done to upset the trolls while I was away?

  28. 32)
    frankenbush said on 3/6/2005 @ 2:51pm PT: [Permalink]

    http://www.jeffgannon.com/

    4:17AM

    I watched a clip of Sen. Joe Biden on Bill Maher’s HBO crapfest. I wonder why he didn’t mention meeting me some years ago. C’mon Joe, think…

    http://www.jeffgannon.com/

    GANNON IS OUTING BIDEN! YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE TICKED OFF THIS GAY MAN!

    You liberals are SUCH hypocrites! You LOVE the gays for the GAY VOTE but LOVE to OUT them whenever you CAN!

  29. 33)
    frankenbush said on 3/6/2005 @ 2:52pm PT: [Permalink]

    Ted kennedy today had to ADMIT that change in the middle east is DUE TO BUSH!

    and TED KENNEDY is a BIBLE READER

    TODAY TED KENNEDY ADMITTED ON GEORGE STEPHANOUPOLIS MORNING SHOW THAT YES HE DOES INDEED BELIEVE IN GOD AND READS THE BIBLE!

    THE LEFT WINGS FURTHEST LEFT WING KOOK IS A BIBLE READER!

  30. 34)
    Dredd said on 3/6/2005 @ 2:55pm PT: [Permalink]

    Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    Those who want more and more power want more and more corruption.

    They get what they think they want, but some point it is not reversible.

    This is clear proof that mad cow disease is rampant in the cud chewing neocon darkness.

  31. 35)
    frankenbush said on 3/6/2005 @ 2:57pm PT: [Permalink]

    Hey bradbloggers!

    Bagdad Burning blogger was ARRESTED by the IRAQI police!

    Turns out she is a relative to Saddams WIFE and has been supporting the Baathist terrorists all along! Wonder how she likes being in Saddam’s prisons!

    and all you libeals hate America types thought she was the REAL THING in Bagdad and telling you the truth! She sucked you all in!

    http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

  32. 37)
    Peggy said on 3/6/2005 @ 4:44pm PT: [Permalink]

    It is only (some) Americans who "believe" that GWB is "intelligent or correct". And these Americans are simply fooling themselves. Everyone else in the entire world "knows IN FACT" that GWB is a moron, a liar, and has innocent blood on his hands. It is, of course, embarrassing and humiliating for America. So, you GWB supporters can keep on pretending amongst yourselves. It may make you feel better right now, but you will suffer the inevitable consequences nevertheless.

  33. 39)
    Peggy said on 3/6/2005 @ 4:53pm PT: [Permalink]

    #32 – Unless Gannon pinched Biden’s bum and smiled coyly, I guess Biden would find Gannon entirely forgetable – just another ignorant right-wing plant, mindlessly chanting the party line.

    BYW – Bush looked into Putin’s soul and saw… (a soulmate?). Putin tried to see into Bush’s brain and saw nothing.

  34. 40)
    Cole... said on 3/6/2005 @ 5:13pm PT: [Permalink]

    I saw a segment in which bush said -Brads quote-and more. It was aan impressive show, watching bush head gestures and hand waving and pointing and yapping like he knows what he says.

    bush’s talk, scripted or funneled into his ear piece are unconnected to thinking and the chosen audience applauds without having to understand what he says.

    It’s a self cooking omlette.

    The farce goes on.

  35. 41)
    frankenbush said on 3/6/2005 @ 5:14pm PT: [Permalink]

    Teresa, Cheryl, Peggy = Three Charlie Manson girlfriend wannabes!

    Charlie is calling you !!!!

  36. 42)
    frankenbush said on 3/6/2005 @ 5:17pm PT: [Permalink]

    Wonder how the Bagdad Burning tramp is liking sitting in Saddam’s old jails. Shame she got caught but then again we caught Tokyo Rose, too.

    Turns out she is Saddam’s wife’s relative; a bathist, and a (former) rich on at that from Saddam’s money!

  37. 43)
    fb said on 3/6/2005 @ 5:18pm PT: [Permalink]

    Ted Kennedy today on stephanoupolis:

    1) congratulated Bush on his victory in Iraq and bringing profound CHANGE to the middle east and

    2) admitted he is a bible reading new testamount believing CHRISTIAN!

    Another Democrat switching to GOD to stay elected!

  38. 44)
    fb said on 3/6/2005 @ 5:22pm PT: [Permalink]

    http://www.jeffgannon.com

    10:01pm

    ***MEDIA ADVISORY***

    I will be a guest on the Steve Yuhas Show Sunday night, March 6 at 9:00pm EST. The segment will be LIVE – I’ll be talking about Gannongate and the Hyper-Hysterical (and not in a funny way) Homosexual Hypocrites and their enablers in the Old Media who played the "gay card" to try to destroy me.

    "I’m here, I’m conservative. Get used to it!"

    5:58pm

    A sore loser from the failed re-election bid of Sen. Tom Daschle complains about my coverage of last year’s race, but says it didn’t have any effect. So what’s the beef Hildy? STORY

    4:17pm

    I watched a clip of Sen. Joe Biden on Bill Maher’s HBO crapfest. I wonder why he didn’t mention meeting me some years ago. C’mon Joe, think…

    1:18pm

    More interesting observations about the Washington press elite from Fred Brown in the Denver Post. STORY

    12:47pm

    James Joyner wieghs in with an interesting observation on the Outside the Beltway blog, Why is Sgrena Called a Journalist?

  39. 45)
    Nana said on 3/6/2005 @ 5:27pm PT: [Permalink]

    Dr. was suturing a laceration on the old farmers hand. Old man:"All you need to know about politics is that young Bush is a post turtle" Doctor:"Oh? Whats a post turtle?" Old man:" When your driving down a country road, and ya come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top? Thatsa post turtle. Ya know he didn’t get there by himself, he don’t belong there, and he can’t get anything done while he’s up there, and ya just want to help take the poor thang down."

    All Hat and No Cattle

  40. 46)
    Cole... said on 3/6/2005 @ 5:29pm PT: [Permalink]

    Interesting item–#44. thanks frankensteinbush.
    So Gan/Guk has been at this for quite a while!

    Use your influence fb–when? and where?
    You know, time and place, just the uncut truth.
    thanks.

  41. 47)
    Nana said on 3/6/2005 @ 5:53pm PT: [Permalink]

    You might be a right winger if…

    you think Martin Luther King is the guy who built your road.

    you think No Child Left Behind is a new bus service to the KKK rally.

    you have bumper stickers that read "nuke his ass" and next to it one that says"I support life!"

    you blame Clinton for having jobs to loose.

    All Hat and No Cattle

  42. 49)
    Teresa said on 3/7/2005 @ 11:15pm PT: [Permalink]

    Actually, Charlie Manson would be a great cabinet member for Bush. Right up his alley. He’s got everything George loves: the cultism, the torture, the murder, and all that scrumptious blood for Frankenbush.

  43. 50)
    Winter Patriot said on 3/7/2005 @ 12:08am PT: [Permalink]

    It’s taken me a while but I finally get it:

    Lebanon and Iraq are DIFFERENT. You see,

    Democracy cannot succeed in Lebanon WHILE she is occupied by a foreign power.

    But democracy cannot succeed in Iraq UNLESS she is occupied by a foreign power.

    Now it all makes a lot more sense.

  44. 51)
    supersoling said on 3/7/2005 @ 1:55am PT: [Permalink]

    This contradiction is what set off my rant on the "All’s Well" open thread. Didn’t mean to shock anyone (Cheryl :0). I listened to NPR rerun those words all day Friday and the more I heard it, the madder I got. You can hear it in his voice when he gets his (fake) bowlegged cowboy bushit going, and unfortunately many braindead (frankenbush) sheeple eat it up :crazy:

    You see, he’s not really all hat and no cattle, it’s just that his herd consist’s of the two legged variety.

  45. 53)
    anyoneanywhereusa said on 3/7/2005 @ 5:44am PT: [Permalink]

    Hi all,
    I read bradblog daily but this is my first post. I just have a few words for mr. atty. frankman.
    It is not so surprising that Sen. Kennedy reads the bible. Did you think we would all be shocked at the notion! Not to shock you, but many liberals are new testament believing and practicing Christians, and this is exactly why we support the politics we do. The greatest commandment is to love God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself. Do you think you right wing nuts have the corner market on Christianity? I think not! You will know them by their fruit, and let me tell you GW has no fruit of the spirit. In fact, he has used the Evangelical Christians for votes. In 1993, as part of his fathers re-election campaign, GW studied this group of people and how one would most likely get their votes. So, he used this information in his own campaign; GW’s "christianty" is nothing more than a campaign strategy.
    As far as the above Bush quote goes, I am not stunned. I have come to expect nothing less than lies, hypocrisy, and contradiction from this group of Repugs.

  46. 54)
    cheryl said on 3/7/2005 @ 6:28am PT: [Permalink]

    #54 Welcome AnyoneanywhereUSA! Can we call you AAUSA for short?

    #41 Frankenbush – Ouch! Boy, when you want to hurt someone you really go for the jugular.

    WP – don’t believe anything that comes out of Frankenbush. Look at all the other crap he/she has posted. If Riverbend had been arrested it would have shown up somewhere.

  47. 55)
    anyoneanywhereusa said on 3/7/2005 @ 6:38am PT: [Permalink]

    #55 You can call me AAUSA
    Sorry if my post was off topic, I just get so angry when these right wingnuts claim Christianity as their own, as if they invented it and if you don’t fall in line with them you are God’s enemy. In fact, in my eyes, these people are nothing but pharisees.

  48. 57)
    cheryl said on 3/7/2005 @ 7:40am PT: [Permalink]

    #56 AAUSA,
    Don’t worry about going OT occasionally. We ALL do it. We also crosstalk but if you’re going to do that you have to say CROSSTALK ALERT! or do Peg C’s thing.

    X0X0X0X0X0X0X0X0X0X0 (Is this right Peg?)

  49. 58)
    supersoling said on 3/7/2005 @ 8:01am PT: [Permalink]

    Just wrote out a long post and lost it upon hitting submit and am out of time, but………..

    AAUSA #54

    Welcome and thank you for your post. They will twist and usurp religion to suit whatever their present need is.

    Dawookie #53

    My paper, Long Island Newsday has it buried today on page 29. Yesterday I saw CNN’s news site calling her newspaper communist. Fear and propaganda.

  50. 60)
    Winter Patriot said on 3/7/2005 @ 8:09am PT: [Permalink]

    re #58. No, Cheryl. XOXOXO is hugs and kisses. Cross-talk is XTXTXTXTXT.

    re #54. Hey AAUSA! Welcome to the discussion. Don’t worry about the OT. Plenty of comments earlier in the thread were even more OT than yours, and some of them were vicious and ignorant as well. Polite and informed OT posts are a relief compared to that stuff. 😉

  51. 61)
    Peg C said on 3/7/2005 @ 8:16am PT: [Permalink]

    Supersoling #59 –

    "Il Manifesto" IS communist, according to Amy Goodman. Another label, equally damning to our MSM’s tender sensibilities, is "left-wing." Oh my.

    The world according to Senator McCarthy.

  52. 62)
    Cole... said on 3/7/2005 @ 8:39am PT: [Permalink]

    Just another thought about Frankensteinbush #44 item, and the numerous other posts which intend to pass the word that Gan/Guk has been active for ‘many years’ and appearently has a rather loose tongue.

    That ‘loose tongue’ with or without sufficient provocation or cash (he is a whore you know) might be a concern for those who may be included in the many years of diary or calander entries
    by Gan/Guk.

    Those folks may prefer to remain ‘not outed’ but now should fear that the winds from Gan/Guk are now blowing. And the leaves of the ‘bushes’ can be as readily blown off by direct blast or by collateral damage.

    Anyway, fb spread the word. Widely.

    And, fb-I’m not big on prayer but may I suggest one for you to pass on to Gan/Guk–
    "Please God, protect me from my friends, I will watch out for my my enemies myself."

  53. 63)
    cheryl said on 3/7/2005 @ 9:15am PT: [Permalink]

    Well…..I knew it was something like that! Darn rookie bloggers, eh?

    Oh yeah, XTXTXTXTXTXTXTXTXTXTXTXTXTX

  54. 66)
    Savantster said on 3/7/2005 @ 11:52am PT: [Permalink]

    Yeah.. amazing how we are "sure" Iran is making nukes "in secret", like Iraq had "nukes, but they are a secret".. Now we are telling other countries "your presence is a hinderance", but the same doesn’t apply to our presence in Iraq.. Kind of like how -all- the wingnut rehtoric is all about "this is good for you, but I have different rules.. you must pay for my riches and like it"..

    Frankenbraindead.. my my.. As was pointed out, there are plenty of Liberals that are Christian as well, being Christian has NOTHING (well, according to our CONSTITUTION anyway) to do with law or politics.. to bring Christianity into it means you don’t support the Constitution, and YOU should leave MY country 😎 Oh, and I’ve not read anything from the "left" that has issue with Gannon being "gay", just that a whore in the White House was given "classified documents" while lying about his identity.. His being gay is just -another- example of how the morons on the right side of the isle are absolute hypocrits .. I know, I know.. you don’t care.. cause the same rules that apply to the rest of the world don’t apply to you, so being a scumbag hypocrit doesn’t apply to you, only to Liberals if you can find a way to twist their view to "look" hypocritical (like trying to bring up the Christrian thing, or the gay thing).. Poor pathetic little man..

  55. 68)
    supersoling said on 3/7/2005 @ 1:41pm PT: [Permalink]

    Peg C #62

    Thanks :0)
    Had I time to rewrite my original post, I would have said that I didn’t know whether or not Il Manifesto was communist, and that I don’t see that it matters, only in the way that CNN used the label "communist" to get a desired effect from it’s readers. It almost implies that the shooting was justified *because* she writes for a communist paper.

  56. 69)
    big dan said on 3/7/2005 @ 2:25pm PT: [Permalink]

    Here’s the deal. Noticing things like this, is how you separate the North from the South…in the South, they said, "YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, let’s get ‘dem Serials outta Lebbnone!!!!!!!! Dubya speaks our language!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  57. 70)
    Toni said on 3/7/2005 @ 6:50pm PT: [Permalink]

    Why is it so surprising that Ted Kennedy would say he reads the bible? He is Catholic, and yes, the Catholic Church was the first Christian church, and surprise, surprise, Catholics do at times read the bible. duh…Why do some people think they alone own rights to GOD and the holy scripture? There are multi millions of people who read the bible besides those who claim to be the righteous religious right!

  58. 72)
    Peg C said on 3/7/2005 @ 7:33pm PT: [Permalink]

    Amen. Remember everyone: Jesus was an honest, perceptive man trying to expose a corrupt, wordly theogarchical status quo. With the Beatitudes. Why aren’t we arguing about whether THEY should be displayed on government property, I wonder?

  59. 73)
    supersoling said on 3/8/2005 @ 1:27am PT: [Permalink]

    As an agnostic / near athiest, I wish everyone would leave religion out of political discussions, and matters of governance. The history of religion fueled warfare is long and bloody, and few if any denominations are innocent save maybe the Quakers.

    Our current pResident has seen fit to cast all Americans, through his words, as being soldiers in a *crusade* against evil. Those who invoke religious rhetoric with the purpose to incite fear and anger, in order to mobilize their minions, are traitorous to the basic ideals of Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, The Great Spirit, and so on.

    Bush and Bin Laden both, have prostituted their peoples faith as the means to carry on that bloody history.

  60. 74)
    Miss Persistent said on 3/8/2005 @ 4:03am PT: [Permalink]

    Is it true (if so are there some good examples?) that Liberal/Left’s around the world tend to like and respect one another while Conservative/Right’s around the world don’t tend to like and respect each other?

  61. 75)
    cheryl said on 3/8/2005 @ 5:40am PT: [Permalink]

    Hey AAUSA!

    XTXTXTXTXTXTXTXTXT CROSS TALK ALERT!

    Check out NY Times, bloggers and Brad thread…….It’s amazing how easily we get carried away.

  62. 76)
    Peggy said on 3/13/2005 @ 5:48am PT: [Permalink]

    Miss Persistent #74 – I am neither Liberal or Conservative, right or left. I listen to my conscience and try to determine what is the right thing to do in any given case, given the "Christian (as in new testament) principals" which I believe in, and also practical given the limitations of the physical world. My observations of American politics started ONLY with the Monica/Clinton scandal, which I listened to and followed daily in complete fascination. Since then I continued to follow American politics, primarily thru TV, thru the 2000 and 2004 elections. I now do not own a TV. But, GENERALLY of course, I have found Repubs. to be obnoxious, short-sighted, fast and loose with facts, certain they are right, intolerant, unpleasant, devious but not particularly intelligent, selfish and self-centered. They turn me completely off. Do I love Democrats. Not necessarily. But like the position Gov. Dean took, he believes it’s more practical to try to reform the Democratic Party than to start a new party. Some party has to represent the rights of the American people, and in order to have effect, that party has to have some power, at least. The Democrats currently have more power than Nader or the Greens, for example. The Republican party represents corporations and those with money, who have contempt for social programs for those who are less fortunate than themselves: not everyone is born smart, or rich, or exceptionally talented, or with great parents, or healthy, or in good towns with jobs, etc. Republicans have no empathy, and no ability to imagine what it’s like to be in other peoples’ less fortunate situations. They don’t wish to share their good fortune in life with anyone else. It means less for them. They want to keep their money for their own luxuries and are prepared to go to any lengths to do so, lies, for example. I should also say, this particular attitude reeks of FEAR. This is not something I have dreamed up. It is based on my observations of what the Republicans in politics have said and done themselves over the past seven years or so, since I started listening. This does not apply to every Republican. But unfortunately, many Republicans, despite the drastically wrong turn taken by the party, cling to the label "Republican" as if it’s a religion, or as die-hard fans of the local football/baseball team. They won’t change their affiliation come hell or high water. This attitude is insane. You either stand for justice, or not. You either stand for fair elections, or not. You either stand against an unjust war, or not. You either stand for the truth, or not. These are not grey area issues. If the party in power is corrupt, you do not support it, whether it is REPUB., DEMO, GREEN, SOCIAL, COMM. The purported name of the party is irrelevant, when the true name of the party is CORRUPTION. Have I documented my observations to be presented as facts and data – no – but this is my personal experience. (Aren’t you sorry you asked?)

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    JoAnn said on 3/20/2005 @ 6:20am PT: [Permalink]

    This statement proves just how dumb our moral president is: Usually when people make statements that don’t quite make sense, they catch themselves, no not him. He doesn’t even hear himself speak.. (Where is Bush’s brain, while he’s making statements like this-Karl Rove???) He is one of the most unmoral people in america, thinking that he can be the big powerful bully, and just dictate to other countries how they should be free and democratic. Practice what u preach Mr. Bush!!!!Start by fixing your own Country!!! U can’t fix the world, even though your fellow republicans lead u to believe u can..Just a bunch of rich, corporate loving, over paid politicians, that don’t live in the world all of us do..

  64. 78)
    JoAnn said on 3/20/2005 @ 6:22am PT: [Permalink]

    This statement proves just how dumb our moral president is: Usually when people make statements that don’t quite make sense, they catch themselves, no not him. He doesn’t even hear himself speak.. (Where is Bush’s brain, while he’s making statements like this-Karl Rove???) He is one of the most unmoral people in america, thinking that he can be the big powerful bully, and just dictate to other countries how they should be free and democratic. Practice what u preach Mr. Bush!!!!Start by fixing your own Country!!! U can’t fix the world, even though your fellow republicans lead u to believe u can..Just a bunch of rich, corporate loving, over paid politicians, that don’t live in the world all of us do.. Democracy comes from within, not from outside sources!!!

  65. 79)
    JoAnn said on 3/20/2005 @ 6:22am PT: [Permalink]

    This statement proves just how dumb our moral president is: Usually when people make statements that don’t quite make sense, they catch themselves, no not him. He doesn’t even hear himself speak.. (Where is Bush’s brain, while he’s making statements like this-Karl Rove???) He is one of the most unmoral people in america, thinking that he can be the big powerful bully, and just dictate to other countries how they should be free and democratic. Practice what u preach Mr. Bush!!!!Start by fixing your own Country!!! U can’t fix the world, even though your fellow republicans lead u to believe u can..Just a bunch of rich, corporate loving, over paid politicians, that don’t live in the world all of us do.. Democracy comes from within, not from outside sources!!!

  66. 80)
    JoAnn said on 3/20/2005 @ 6:24am PT: [Permalink]

    This statement proves just how dumb our moral president is: Usually when people make statements that don’t quite make sense, they catch themselves, no not him. He doesn’t even hear himself speak.. (Where is Bush’s brain, while he’s making statements like this-Karl Rove???) He is one of the most unmoral people in america, thinking that he can be the big powerful bully, and just dictate to other countries how they should be free and democratic. Practice what u preach Mr. Bush!!!!Start by fixing your own Country!!! U can’t fix the world, even though your fellow republicans lead u to believe u can..Just a bunch of rich, corporate loving, over paid politicians, that don’t live in the world all of us do.. Democracy comes from within, not from outside sources!!!

  67. 81)
    JoAnn said on 3/20/2005 @ 6:24am PT: [Permalink]

    This statement proves just how dumb our moral president is: Usually when people make statements that don’t quite make sense, they catch themselves, no not him. He doesn’t even hear himself speak.. (Where is Bush’s brain, while he’s making statements like this-Karl Rove???) He is one of the most unmoral people in america, thinking that he can be the big powerful bully, and just dictate to other countries how they should be free and democratic. Practice what u preach Mr. Bush!!!!Start by fixing your own Country!!! U can’t fix the world, even though your fellow republicans lead u to believe u can..Just a bunch of rich, corporate loving, over paid politicians, that don’t live in the world all of us do.. Democracy comes from within, not from outside sources!!!

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