“Ohio’s provisional balloting was not a model for the nation to follow,” understated Michael Vu, the Democratic election head of Cuyahoga County, Ohio’s biggest, to the U.S. Election Assistance Commission in their first hearing since the brilliantly run 2004 election.
“I didn’t think it should have been the forum for Mr. Vu to vent his frustration,” snipped Keith Cunningham, the Republican election board head of Allen County, and also the head of the Ohio Association of Elections Officials.
“We’ve had tremendous success with provisional votes in Ohio and we did with this election,” said J. Kenneth Blackwell, Ohio’s Sec. of State (and Co-Chair of the Committee to Re-Elect Bush) clearing up the confusion once and for all.
Wow, it seems there’s some sort of disagreement. But we had read in all the papers that the 2004 elections went off with nary a hitch! How odd.
AP has the nearly useless coverage of the mostly useless spat at the hearings of the completely useless U.S. Elections Assistance Commission.
Kinda gives you a warm fuzzy feeling, doesn’t it?
When I read comments from Ken Blackwell saying "We’ve had tremendous success with provisional votes," I always suspect he means "We did a tremendous job of forcing the people who wouldn’t have voted for Bush to use provisional ballots, so we didn’t have to count them."
And where does Keith Cunningham think people like Michael Vu SHOULD vent their frustration? Out in the middle of the interstate? Spare me!
It is becoming abundantly clear that the neocon fascists see the republican party as the propaganda arm of the administration.
Jeff Gannon, Ken Blackwell, Tom Delay, and the rest of the fascists have that thread in common.
The one thing throughout is the expectation that all will toe the line.
When folk like Michael Vu and bloggers here do not do so, the yeppers, nodders, and general yes men all see it as the very essence of evil.
In the eyes of these neocan fascists political corruption is seen as a virtue. Dissent and a notion of criticism is all too often perceived as unpatriotic or traitorus. Hell, america has been outlawed.
Just like fascist’s have always thought and performed. From Adolf H to Jeffie G.
Oh YAKKKK! Such "frustration" he "vented!" A battery-powered mini-fan on year-old batteries could have "vented" more of anything, including hot wind. For God’s sake, the absolute template of the fix has been displayed before the world, and we still read baby-talk like this about imperfect models? What is everyone afraid of?
Guess what? They shouldn’t be afraid, because there is power in numbers. The first person REALLY to stand up to the bastards, imposters, and freaks, will be a Pied Piper, magicking the better part of the nation behind him.
(""We’ve had tremendous success with provisional votes in Ohio and we did with this election," said J. Kenneth Blackwell, Ohio’s Sec. of State")
They had tremendous success, all right. After all, their goal was to distort the wishes of, and steal the right to vote from, the people of Ohio, and they were tremendously successful.
A Democrat makes a Milquetoast-like criticism on a bi-partisan matter, and is contradicted by a Republican who calls the comment inappropriate or responds with a lie.
Sounds like Hannity and Colmes, doesn’t it? I think these guys must take a course in debating technique at a top-secret paramilitary camp.
I’m not a sociologist nor have I taken any polls. All I do is live in Ohio, but I do believe the people here are scared. Athens County is supposed to be a civilized liberal paradise, but let me tell you: if you travel 10 miles outside of the city of Athens into the countryside, where I live, there is conservative savagery everywhere. People are armed to the teeth and drive like madmen 3 times a week to the fundamentalist churches whose parking lots are full. People have no faith in the political process or those elected. There is a presumption everything is a racket, and all power and decision-making depend on who you know and how well you kiss butt. What you’re are supposed to try to do is get your piece of the action. There is ugly anger spreading in Ohio. One does not question an election any more than you’d whine about a lost football game. It may be too late for a pied piper to lead the masses to the truth.
Interesting, Jazzolog. If your neighbors think everything is a racket, one would assume they’d be skeptical about the election. For them to trust no one, yet to also believe the vote count was honest in Ohio, is an utter contradiction.
Forgive me for using a dictionary word here, but what is missing in Ohio and most red states is a sense of verisimilitude. Believe in nothing except Bush, your guns, your favorite NASCAR driver, and the preacher at Armageddon Pentecostal Church who tells you liberals are the reason you feel scared all the time.
Of course, in a proper debate, the lie would be considered inappropriate. But we haven’t had one of those for a long time.
I notice that the Ohio political propaganda machine that patted itself on the back did not mention any segments of the election that can be associated with science.
That would be exit polls.
Several Phd. scientists from various universities have studied the Ohio debacle and have said the odds that it was fraudulent are as close to certain as it gets.
The Fox is not only in the news, it is in the Ohio hen house and Fox News parrots the fox.
So Ohio folk being scared is the only sign of sanity left there.
Who knows, maybe Jeff Gannon will be hired by Fox News to go over there and uncover things.
I live in Ohio also, about 30 miles south of Athens in Meigs County. If there ever was a bible belt, this is it, a church on almost every corner. But, I have discovered something very strange about some of my church-going neighbors. They hate Bush. The mention of his name throws some of them into a fit of rage. I had assumed that most of my religious neighbors voted for Bush, but not so. This is even more proof that the election was rigged, when the so-called "moral values" group didn’t even vote for the fascist regime.
Meeting Of Ohio Election Officials:Caption: "Jeffie, get out from under the table"
Jazzolog #7, Sherry #10 –
We have out share of ignorant asses squealing around in their gun-racked pickups up here too. But like Sherry, I too have witnessed a phenomenon: life-long Baptist Republicans who grow fangs and spit venom if the B-word is mentioned. Our head selectman is Republican, but he sneers, shakes his head, and vows that * is another breed. The only people who displayed Bush/Cheney signs last fall were a banker or two and down-and-out "Appalachia" types in run-down house trailers with the rotting carcasses of dead vehicles in their yards. Money or ignorance, venality or stupidity: take your pick. That’s the neo-CON base in Maine, as far as I’m a judge of the demographic.
If that is the case everyone, who actually voted for Bush last time around? Things that make you go *hmmmmm*.
Boycott Wendy’s Restaurants and Outback Steakhouses.
Why you say? Wendy’s Restaurants operate out of Dublin, OHIO and Outback Steakhouses operate out of FLORIDA. Now you see. I have picked two well known companies that operate out of the states that have brought us stolen elections by the immoral Republican Party. These companies operate restaurant chains that have restaurants around the United States.
Now why boycott them after the effort to overturn Bush’s second stolen election has failed? Boycott them, call them, email them and tell them that we will not go to their restaurants until Ohio and Florida elects democrats to Governorships, Secretaries of state and majorities in their legislatures in Ohio and Florida. In other words we will punish them for allowing the stolen elections to happen in 2000 and 2004. Will it work? Well do it and see.
I had a petition to demand a revote in Ohio and Florida at
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/revote
but now I use it to allow people to express their opinions on the 2004 and 2000 stolen elections and encourage them to boycott Wendy’s and Outback Steakhouse, 2 famously Republican contributors.
Thank you.
Also visit these fine websites
http://www.Buyblue.org
http://www.2005blue.com
http://www.choosetheblue.com
http://www.imblue.net
Please pass this onto other people.
How can the people force a mean spirited conservative congress to pass a progressive agenda? Simple. I have picked some well known companies that appear related to issues that progressives find important. Boycott these companies and make them lobby congress and get what we want or they go bust. While I agree we need to elect a Democratic congress and a Democratic president, with a consumer boycott we the people can exert influence every single day and not just at election time and not just with letters or petitions but with petitions with the bite of a boycott.
Join the revolution for progressive legislation
http://www.boycott-republicans.com
Write this url on your one, five and ten dollar bills.
Call Eckerd Pharmacy Corporate Headquarters at 800 325 3737, Call CVS Pharmacy Corporate headquarters at 888 607 4287 and Call Walgreens Pharmacy Corporate headquarters at 800 289 2273 and tell them you will not purchase any products from their drug stores until they get the Republican congress to repeal the faulty prescription drug benefit and replace it with a simple 80 percent coverage benefit under Medicare Part B. Then sign the petition.
Call Walmart at 800 WALMART and tell them you will not buy from them until they get the Republican congress to stop social security privatization, increase the minimum wage to TEN dollars an hour, and extend unemployment insurance for people who lost jobs and sought work for more than 6 months. then sign the petition.
Sign the petition to stop social security privatization, increase the minimum wage,extend unemployment insurance for people who lost jobs and sought work for more than 6 months and repeal the faulty Republican prescription drug benefit and replace it with a simple 80 percent coverage of medication under Medicare Part B. Please get two other people to sign this petition.
http://www.petitionspot.com/pet...ns/progressive
Sign the petition to stop the War and Occupation in Iraq
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stopthewar
BuckFush –
Your bandwidth is showing. We are all sold on BuyBlue and BoycottRed. We are, we really are! :laugh: