‘Progress’ v. ‘Revolution’: Bernie and Hillary’s Lively NH Debate: ‘BradCast’ 2/5/2016

GUESTS: Kentucky civil rights attorney Joe Dunman; Crooks and Liars' Managing Editor Karoli Kuns...

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On today’s BradCast, as you might have guessed, it’s post-debate analysis of last night’s very lively head-to-head debate between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in New Hampshire.

Joining us to make sense of it all is Joe Dunman, the Kentucky civil rights attorney who represented the same-sex couples suing Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis over her refusal to grant marriage licenses last year, Karoli Kuns, Managing Editor of the great Crooks and Liars blog.

During the debate, the first since the Iowa Caucuses and the last between Democrats before voters head to the primary polls in NH on Tuesday, the two candidates sharpened their dispute over potential directions for the Democratic Party (and the nation, along with it), as they hashed out whether to protect and expand on successful Obama Administration policies, as Clinton hopes, or fight for expansive and “revolutionary” new progressive policies as Sanders is calling for.

That question, a worthy one, also leads to a lively debate among the panelists on today’s program, which you can listen to in full below! And, if you’d like to ring in on the issue yourself, I’d love to hear your thoughts in comments below, since I think this fight will be continuing for a while. Enjoy!…

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‘Progress’ v. ‘Revolution’: Bernie and Hillary’s Lively NH Debate: ‘BradCast’ 2/5/2016

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    ChicagoMel said on 2/5/2016 @ 10:13pm PT: [Permalink]

    Answer: Hillary world (DLC, DWS, cronyism, payola, Carlyle Group, Carville, globalist ‘free’ trade, PNAC, shadow gov’t, FCC and SEC deregulation, Rahm, blah blah the fuck blah) has been kneecapping Democratic Party ideals since the ‘Reagan Revolution’ when conservadems infiltrated MY PARTY and pushed the Overton Window further to the right with EVERY election cycle….DAMN FUCKING STRAIGHT this is a death match for the heart and soul of the Party of FDR, through Delano’s fearless avatar, Sen. Bernie Sanders….40 years of American decline under goddamned Republicans and wobbly Democrats = GAME OVER!!!, real progressives are driving this motherfucking conversation now….HILLARY IS THE TOTAL EMBODIMENT OF THE PAST….you blew it, Mrs. Thatcher, you and your cohorts have wrecked the social fabric of this nation, now just stfu and GET THE HELL OUT OF OUR WAY as we show you the road forward from all your nefarious bullshit….this ain’t a fight with the Clintons per se….this is full out war against the worldview they represent and implement to everyone else’s detriment….

    At 74, Bernie is the youngest presidential candidate of both parties, with his bold vision, his bold solutions, his boundless energy and galvanized followers….ALL of his ‘younger’ rivals for the presidency are so backwards and shriveled in their thinking as to be veritable cadavers of their own moribund candidacies….be GONE with ye….the Future is calling and your sorry mugs ain’t in it!….

    A month ago i said here that our teetering financial system may be on the verge of what Thom Hartmann calls “The Crash Of 2016″….seen the Dow lately?….nervous yet?….am i wearing a tin foil hat right now?….maybe….but if Thom’s right, we’re fucked fucked fucked….bright side?….when even the dumbest of dumb Americans finally realize the dire straits we’re in, Sanders’ message will ring out as clear as a bell, and he will be President in a landslide….look for all his detractors in the rubble…

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    Ernest A. Canning said on 2/6/2016 @ 2:12am PT: [Permalink]

    I suspect that Hillary Clinton went into this debate with a calculated plan to feign indignation the moment the topic of her deep ties to Wall Street emerged.

    As an attorney Hillary is well aware that those ties — the millions both she and Bill have received for “speaking fees” and in campaign contributions — at a minimum give rise to the appearance of a conflict of interest.

    It’s the type of conflict that would disqualify a judge from presiding over litigation regarding those entities. Why should a president be any different?

    The Atlantic provides this example in which shortly after Hillary Clinton intervened on its behalf, UBS paid Bill Clinton a $1.5 million speaking fee.

    A few weeks after Hillary Clinton was sworn in as secretary of state in early 2009, she was summoned to Geneva by her Swiss counterpart to discuss an urgent matter. The Internal Revenue Service was suing UBS AG to get the identities of Americans with secret accounts. If the case proceeded, Switzerland’s largest bank would face an impossible choice: Violate Swiss secrecy laws by handing over the names, or refuse and face criminal charges in U.S. federal court. Within months, Mrs. Clinton announced a tentative legal settlement””an unusual intervention by the top U.S. diplomat. UBS ultimately turned over information on 4,450 accounts, a fraction of the 52,000 sought by the IRS.”

    I’m reminded of a door is not a door when it’s ajar. So I guess a bribe is not a bribe when it’s a “speaking fee.”

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    ChicagoMel said on 2/6/2016 @ 8:53am PT: [Permalink]

    When is a door not a door? ^^^^

    Haha!!!

    When is a candidate not a candidate?….when they’re a candy date turning tricks for out of town businessmen…

    Housecleaning time, people, no joke….even a bordello can be made a house of Faith with a brand new top…

    Throw it down, Brother Bernie, preach it!!

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    karenfromillinois said on 2/7/2016 @ 1:22pm PT: [Permalink]

    brad

    if i had the link to jeanie’s video i would not have asked for it

    could you please get a hold of her and have her post it in comments?

    it really shows how non transparent the “recount” was

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    Larry Bergan said on 2/7/2016 @ 12:06am PT: [Permalink]

    Salon published a dead-on article instead of the media’s usual, (some-say-this/some-say-that), garbage. Looks like the person who’s keeping the data Sanders requested from Iowa secret, also worked on Hillary’s 2008 campaign, along with DNC chair, Wasserman Schultz. 🙁

    Sanders got bagged again in Iowa, this time by a state party chair, one Andrea McGuire. Like Schultz, McGuire’s specialty is high-dollar fund raising, and like Schultz she was deeply involved in Clinton’s 2008 campaign. Under the esoteric rules of the Iowa Democratic caucuses, and after a string of lucky coin tosses, Clinton eked out a 700.52 to 696.86 margin, not in votes cast but in a mysterious commodity known as “delegate equivalents.”

    We’re electing a president, not the senior warden of a Mason’s lodge. All evidence indicates Sanders won the popular vote. It isn’t a minor point. If the public knew he won the only vote anybody understands or cares about, Clinton wouldn’t be “breathing a sigh of relief,” she’d be hyperventilating. McGuire refuses to release vote totals. She says keeping them a secret is an Iowa tradition. So what if it is? As with debates, the stakes transcend the candidates’ interests. In an editorial headlined “Something Smells in the Democratic Party,” the Des Moines Register, which endorsed Clinton prior to the caucuses, wrote:

    What happened Monday night at the Democratic caucuses was a debacle, period”¦ the refusal to undergo scrutiny or allow for an appeal reeks of autocracy.

    As close a race as the results showed, it’s insane to say that “tradition” is a good enough reason to hide those results. You gotta love the headline on that Salon article, and the honest reporting though!

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