READER COMMENTS ON
"Oh, Yeah, Jeb's Running..."
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 1/6/2015 @ 1:09 pm PT...
"Jeb attempted a mulligan"
I love that!
It's time for people to pull out their copy of "Stupid White Men". Everything you needed to know about NEVER voting for anybody in the Bush crime family was right there years ago, but people in the know knew that was the tip of the iceberg.
Besides; Americans didn't vote for Bush-the-lesser anyway.
Even Barbara "beautiful mind" Bush agrees that there have been enough Bushes in the white house.
What more do we need?
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 1/6/2015 @ 1:21 pm PT...
I just sent you - yet another - $20.00 Brad, but I need you to answer a question for me.
As far as you know, is Utah's voting system still owned by a Canadian entity called Dominion, or has it been sold again?
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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Brad Friedman
said on 1/6/2015 @ 5:08 pm PT...
Larry -
First, thanks. But I must make it clear that nobody needs to pay me to answer a question for them!
As to the answer you paid for...I have heard nothing about Dominion being sold to anybody. That said, I've been trying to look mostly the other way for the last couple of weeks. So, if anything happened, I don't know about it.
Diebold Voting Systems, Inc., which used to control pretty much all of the voting systems in Utah, was first sold to ES&S some years ago, until the DoJ forced them to sell it off due to anti-trust issues. Dominion bought the Diebold hardward and software contracts, except for those jurisdictions which wanted to stay with ES&S instead of going to Dominion, as part of the DoJ/ES&S settlement. I haven't checked, but I'd presume that Utah went to Dominion.
Not long thereafter, Sequoia Voting Systems was also purchased by Dominion (who lied about the sale).
The last thing I remember hearing about a change to voting systems in Utah was the Lt. Governor's creation of a committee last summer to look at moving from the Diebold touch-screens used across the state to an Internet Voting system.
So, while I haven't heard they have done so, they were certainly looking to move their current 100% unverifiable system to an all new and more easily hacked 100% unverifiable system.
And thanks again for your donation.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 1/6/2015 @ 6:45 pm PT...
Thanks for your time Brad.
I've always believed that the reason people ignore this issue is that it demands they do something.
Bringing it up is a great way to lose friends.
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Adam
said on 1/6/2015 @ 7:06 pm PT...
Considering that elections are rigged in Florida, Jeb Bush could pretty much say anything and it wouldn't make a difference in election outcomes.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Barbara Bellows-TerraNova
said on 1/6/2015 @ 7:31 pm PT...
The machines we voted on here in Utah last November look like the same Diebold designed-to-be-hacked junk we've had since our Governor and his hackmen and the Diebold rep got Bruce Funk thrown out of office back in 2006...
Grumble... grumble... grumble...
So today, between these machines and Rove's money, Mia Love --- the former one term mayor of the super-white city where a young black man was gunned down by police for walking around and gesturing with a "cosplay" Samurai sword --- became the first female black REPUBLICAN to take office in the U.S. House of Representatives. She was "elected" even though she failed to even bother to show up to a scheduled debate with her Democratic opponent, Doug Owens.
It seems to me that corporate/GOP lobbyists really know how to work the local Utah culture, and their willingness to mindlessly sustain the authorities.
Grumble... grumble... grumble.
And now we have to witness Jeb Give-Florida-to-brother-Georgie Bush pretend to believe in the will of the people? Grrrrr....
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 1/6/2015 @ 7:43 pm PT...
I spoke at a couple of hearings here and one of them included about 40 activists against Diebold who were the only people filling the room presided over by, then, Lt. governor Gary Herbert who showed up after the head of the "voting equipment selection committee" stepped down, unexpectedly.
All of the activists were thinking, at the time, that a non-Diebold computer system involving printed ballots was a good plan. There was one man in the front row named Thad Hall who was warning against paper jams. When he talked, you could hear a gasp in the audience. Needless to say, he disappeared when the meeting adjourned.
Later,I attended a very small seminar that Thad Hall gave, where he presented a survey which seemed to conclude that most Utahn's were comfortable with electronic voting machines which were about to be deployed.
I talked to him after the meeting and asked him if the results would have been different if Utahn's knew the machines were secretly programmed out of state. He seemed to be more worried about George Soros.
He's been excited about internet - paperless - voting for longer then I could have imagined.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Barbara Bellows-TerraNova
said on 1/6/2015 @ 7:47 pm PT...
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Barbara Bellows-TerraNova
said on 1/6/2015 @ 7:52 pm PT...
I remember Thad Hall. Working from memory, Thad Hall was funded by those behind the whole movement to shift to the very unsafe voting machines that jumped in after the 2004 election theft. A sly patronizing fellow.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 1/6/2015 @ 7:56 pm PT...
Good to see you here Barbara! I was so glad when I saw your gutsy article about this in one of Utahs prominent magazines, many years ago.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Barbara Bellows-TerraNova
said on 1/6/2015 @ 7:57 pm PT...
Nice to talk to you again, Larry. I searched Blad Blog for Thad and the first thing I found was in a comment you made about him back in 2006. Ah yes, we remember him well.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 1/6/2015 @ 8:17 pm PT...
I like to think that I convinced the head of the "voting equipment selection committee" to step down and force - now governor - Gary Herbert to preside over the last hearing about the voting machines. I told her that I didn't think it mattered if the machines were 100% accurate' it was that we didn't know. I heard her say that on our local public radio station just before she stepped down.
I only tell little white lies, and would never lie about something this important.