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"CHRIS FLOYD : ABC's Agit-Prop: Another Serving From Bush's Poison Kitchen"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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MikeyCan
said on 9/7/2006 @ 12:00 pm PT...
In rewriting history for government ends, ABC is quickly joining FOX in becoming part of Bush's "Ministry of Information".
George Orwell would be proud.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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molly
said on 9/7/2006 @ 12:09 pm PT...
Richard Clarke, in his book about 9/11, had nothing but praise for Clinton's efforts to combat terroism. The Republican house , senate and military seemed to be Clinton's biggest obstacles. The book says that Clinton ordered Ben Ladin killed, the CIA or military refused and then started the rumor that they had Ben in the cross hairs and Clinton wouldn't let them kill him. I'm not a Clinton fan..but Clarke seemed to be able to do his job under his administration. ...Wonder if the 20 million tax payer dollars going through the DOD to make Iraq look like a shining success is spilling out over the air ways.
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/7/2006 @ 12:15 pm PT...
FUCK abc !!! . . . I have a loooooooooooong memory. . . In case you forgot . . . . . FUCK abc !!!
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Miss P
said on 9/7/2006 @ 12:56 pm PT...
Anyone know the phone or fax number for Robert A. Iger, President and CEO, The Walt Disney Company. Maybe the 7 or 8 of us could say hello? Or the fax and phone number for some peoples at ABC?
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/7/2006 @ 1:04 pm PT...
The extreme right-wing Christo-fascist neo-Nazi bu$$hco
Republican Party can not stand by their record so what do they do ? They simply alter historical facts and makeup some fairytale reality exonerate themselves and cast all blame on someone else,.. regarding causation of 9/11. The fact that these fascist right-wingers used the House of Disney - the the world renowned factory of fantasy and fantasia to spread their Nazi terrorist propaganda is very telling.
How Disney now has the unmitigated audacity to take this filthy fascist propaganda and now foist this crap on our public schools - contaminating,.. bending,.. and twisting reality to the extent they have,.. and then calling it a history lesson that should infect the minds of our youth,.. is beyond pathetic. The German Nazi YOUTH Propaganda Corps would be very proud of this KKKarl Rove-ian political dis-information effort/ploy. It is an elaborate smokescreen to artfully conceal their blatant political inadequacies and incompetencies.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Miss P
said on 9/7/2006 @ 1:08 pm PT...
Here's some contact information for Disney:
http://corporate.disney..../news/contact_press.html
Ane here's some "Audience Relations Department" contact information for ABC: http://abc.go.com/site/faq.html
How do I contact the ABC Television Network?
We encourage you to check our Questions & Answers section on ABC.com regarding an inquiry you may have about ABC's Primetime and Daytime shows, as well as our Movies and Specials. For specific inquiries not answered on the website, feel free to contact our Audience Relations department.
Questions can also be submitted via regular mail or by phone to:
ABC, Inc.
500 S. Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521-4551
(818) 460-7477*
Due to the volume of correspondence we receive regarding ABC programming, we are unable to individually respond to every audience inquiry. We do, however, value your comments and suggestions.
*Standard connection fees apply.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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David Francis
said on 9/7/2006 @ 1:26 pm PT...
If they air this BS "docudrama" I'll be among the millions who boycott Disney and ABC. I won't be doing it for two weeks though as some have proposed - it'll be permanent. They'll never again get one dime out of me. My kids will probably want to go back to Disneyworld again someday, but I guess I'll just have to explain to them that the "happiest place on earth" is actually the most rotten place on earth. My two year old is going to miss her pooh bears when I cut the heads off them and send them to Disney's CEO, but she'll be better off without them.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/7/2006 @ 1:30 pm PT...
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Steve
said on 9/7/2006 @ 1:42 pm PT...
David Francis-
I'm with you. Disney's reach is pervasive and that is especially true when you live near one of their theme parks as I do (Disneyland) and perhaps you do in Florida. My family has been Season Pass holders for years and my kids think nothing of going there even several times per month. It will be difficult cutting that off but I will be damned if I will spend another penny supporting that propaganda machine. When the fascist Bush regime finally falls, Disney and like corporations will be tarred with their actions aiding and abetting these criminals for the rest of their existence (and despite the influence of that company throughout so many of our lives, I truly hope that I live to see the demise of this corporation along with the criminals in this adminstration!)
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Charlie L
said on 9/7/2006 @ 1:42 pm PT...
Chris, don't cut your argument short: "for most of his reign, Hitler was far more popular than Bush, and so the corporate bandwagoning is more easily understood."
NOT TRUE.
Here's a quick history recap...
1930, Nazis received 6,371,000 votes, 18%, for 107 seats in the Reichstag (Germany's "congress").
March, 1932, Hitler received 11.3 Million votes for President (30%) to Hindenburg's 18.6 Million (49%) forcing a run-off. April, 1932 Hitler got 13.4 Million (36%) and Hindenburg got 19.3 Million (53%).
On July 31, the people voted and gave the Nazis 13,745,000 votes, 37% of the total, granting them 230 seats in the Reichstag. The Nazi party was now the largest and most powerful in Germany.
March 5, 1933 the last free elections of the German Republic were held. The Nazi's did NOT get a majority, garnering only 44% of the vote with 17.2 Million. Many other major parties split the rest, in spite of massive Nazi-Government crackdowns and dirty tricks.
After the Nazi's obstructed the operations of the government and on March 23, 1933, by a vote of 441 to 84, the Enabling Act was passed by the Reichstag, giving Hitler the power to declare himself Fuehrer.
Democracy was ended. The Nazi's had brought down the German Democratic Republic legally, without ever receiving a majority vote. From that day onward, the Reichstag was just a rubber-stamp for Hitler's pronouncements. (Sound familiar?)
There are so very many similarities to our recent American history: In just four short years, the Nazi's went from a "joke" to absolute power. Remember when we laughed at the stupid, ex-drunk, coke-addled, dumb-talking Governor of Texas and though he was just "silly?" Nobody took him very seriously or really imagined that he could compare to a world-experienced, Senate-veteran, Vice-President.
Even Gore expected that Bush would burn-out after four years and our country would get back on the right track thereafter.
We did not see the effect that the media consolidation and Republican corporate interests were having. We were not watching closely enough as the mass media orchestrated the election of 2000 with false memes such as "Gore invented the Internet" and ignoring the questionable (and failed) business practices of Bush. Venerable institutions like the NYT, LAT, and WAPO spiked stories that would have dropped Bush in the polls, like his drunk driving or coke use and let him get away with "childhood indiscretions" excuses for illegal behavior he committed in his late 30's and early 40's. The propaganda arm of the Republican party was already hard at work in our supposedly neutral "Fourth Estate" thanks to Mr. Clinton's Telecommunications Act of 1996.
We are now at a place in time very similar to 1933. How we deal with the congressional elections this year and the illegal and unconscionable actions of the Republicans in Congress will decide where our future lies.
November 8, 2006. If not now, when. If not here, where.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Steve
said on 9/7/2006 @ 1:55 pm PT...
Charlie L-
Incredibly enlightening and interesting post. I absolutely agree that we are at a critical crossroads with the upcoming elections. The criminals in power know that too and this ABC mockumentary is likely to be the tip of the iceberg of what we are going to be subjected to in the coming months. It will be up to ALL of us to do all in our power to combat this assault but, if there is a deity or deities out there, may he or she help us!
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Agent99
said on 9/7/2006 @ 2:00 pm PT...
It's so creepy how this picture reminds me of the ones of * you see all the time. I think Jimmy Breslin was the first one to start hollering "Hitler", and that was very early on, where he was drawing the parallels between *'s speeches and Hitler's. Long past where the population should have awakened to the full import, polls showing that many are awakening: time for the liberal application of soporifics like this crap they threaten to air. They have PBS too. Nova will be airing more 9/11 disinformation too.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 9/7/2006 @ 2:11 pm PT...
Steve said, "if there is a deity or deities out there, may he or she help us!"
According to Mencia, there's a lot of them out there
and they vote Republican
Link
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/7/2006 @ 2:40 pm PT...
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Agent99
said on 9/7/2006 @ 2:54 pm PT...
I've been thrust by Judge of Judges into fantasy land! ABC is really making all this noise, scaring us all so badly, for ratings, WHEN THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO AIR "LOOSE CHANGE"!!!!!! How's that for a feel-good day dream? Thank you. Thank you. You're more than welcome. It was nothing....
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/7/2006 @ 3:07 pm PT...
More contact info to register a complaint,..
Walt Disney Company - (owner of ABC TV)
CEO & President - Michael Iger - Info: Link 1,.. Link 2
Contact info:
Secretaries and Executive Assistants:
Zenia Mucha Phone: 818-560-5300
Michelle Bergman Phone: 818-560-8231
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Board of Directors
Chairman of the Board
George J. Mitchell
The Walt Disney Company
500 South Buena Vista Street
Burbank, California 91521-0931
Link 1,.. Link 2
Chair. of B. of Dir./Disney - G.J. Mitchell Esq.
e-mail/phone/fax : Link to info.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/7/2006 @ 4:20 pm PT...
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Miss Persistent
said on 9/7/2006 @ 5:13 pm PT...
I heard on NPR a political analyst say (and I paraphrase, etc. here) basically that the Republicans have NO other thing to try to sell than 9-11 and the threat of terrorism. He said, they certainly can't sell on the economy, they can't on gas prices, they can't sell on this or that. And so 9/11 is ALL they have. The analyst also said that it would be intense 9-11 propaganda from here on in and for that reason. They have nothing else to peddle. He said, it worked before and although perhaps to weaker effect, it may work now. But still, it's all they have. And this is what we are seeing and hearing. How many times have you heard it just in the last few days.
Why did he wait until now to publicly transfer the 14 from secret prisons to Gitmo? Duh.
Sick. Sick. Sick.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Agent99
said on 9/7/2006 @ 5:26 pm PT...
Miss Persistent
LET'S TAKE 9/11 AWAY FROM THEM!
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/7/2006 @ 5:28 pm PT...
This clown of a pResident and his pathetic administration has nothing left to market themselves and their corrupt Republican Party as we enter the last leg of the campaigning to the midterm elections,.. they remain hopeful neo-Nazi propaganda
will once again hoodwink the voting public to keep these fascists in power.
Lies and Propaganda Cartoon Link.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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brock samson
said on 9/7/2006 @ 5:37 pm PT...
caught part of shrub's long speech today narrating events of 9/11/01 in *glorious* detail. Turdblossom and co. know full well immense power of narrative, so does Disney/ABC. No coincidences here. Seriously, you have to hand it to these folks, they do know how to make their shit stick. . .
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Daniel DiRito
said on 9/7/2006 @ 5:58 pm PT...
To see a tongue-in-cheek visual of the Bush administration's "A Guide to the ABC’s For Dummies"...link here:
www.thoughttheater.com
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/7/2006 @ 6:02 pm PT...
Disney,.. ABC TV is feeling the pressure,.. turn the heat up on these Fascist Propagandists,..
Robert Iger - CEO -
robert.a.iger@disney.com
Rich Ross - President of Disney Channel Worldwide -
rich.ross@disney.com
Sean Cocchia - VP/Business Development, Disney Channel Worldwide-
sean.cocchia@disney.com
Gary Marsh - Disney Channel Worldwide President of Entertainment -
gary.marsh@disney.com
Sarah Shelton - Assistant to Gary Marshsarah -
shelton@disney.com
Scott Garner - SVP/Programming, Disney Channel - scott.garner@disney.com
Karen Myer - Assistant to Scott Garner -
karen.myer@disney.com
Meredith Metz - Senior Vice President, Creative Affairs, Walt Disney Television Animation -
meredith.metz@disney.com
Lisa Salamone - The Head of Animation Production, Disney Channel -
lisa.salamone@disney.com
Joanna Spak - The Head of Finance, Planning, etc., Disney Channel -
joanna.spak@disney.com
Mark Kenchelian - The Head of Business and Legal Affairs, Disney Channel -
ark.kenchelian@disney.com
Jewell Engstrom - CFO and Executive VP for Disney-ABC Cable Group -
jewell.engstrom@disney.com
Olivia Stafford - Assistant to Jewell Engstrom -
olivia.stafford@disney.com
Albert Cheng - EVP/Digital Media, Disney-ABC Television Group -
albert.cheng@disney.com
Karen Hobson - Digital Media Communications Office, Disney-ABC Television Group -
karen.hobson@disney.com
George Bodenheimer - Co-Chairman Media Networks Group -
george.bodenheimer@disney.com
Nicole Nichols - Senior VP of Entertainment Communications, Disney-ABC Television Group -
nicole.nichols@disney.com
Aime Wolfe - Assistant to Nicole Nichols -
aime.wolfe@disney.com
Patti McTeague - VP of Kids Communications -
patti.mcteague@disney.com
Siobhan Kenny - Acting Head of International Communications -
siobhan.kenny@disney.com
Paul Lee - ABC Family Channel -
paul.lee@disney.com
Annie Fort - ABC Family Media Relations -
annie.fort@disney.com
Alex Wallau - President of Network Operations & Administration -
alex.wallau@disney.com
David Westin - ABC News President -
david.westin@disney.com
Mike Shaw - ABC Sales and Marketing President -
mike.shaw@disney.com
Fred Kuperberg - Disney/ABC Executive VP of Business and Legal Affairs - fred.kuperberg@disney.com
Kara Rousseau - VP of Ad Sales Marketing for Disney/ABC Kids Networks - kara.rousseau@disney.com
Kim Harbin - Buena Vista Media Relations -
kim.harbin@disney.com
Anne Gates - Disney Consumer Products Executive VP & CFO -
anne.gates@disney.com
James Fielding - Senior VP, Retail Sales and Marketing for DCP -
james.fielding@disney.com
Deborah Dugan - President of Disney Publishing -
deborah.dugan@disney.com
Graham Hopper - Senior VP and General Manager of Buena Vista Games -
graham.hopper@disney.com
Angela Emery - Director of Public Relations, Buena Vista Games -
angela.emery@disney.com
Chris Bess - Buena Vista Home Entertainment -
chris.bess@disney.com
Peter Murphy - Senior Adviser to Mr. Iger -
peter.murphy@disney.com
Judy Estrin - Board of Directors -
jestrin@packetdesign.com
John Bryson - Board of Directors -
john.bryson@edisonintl.com
Monica Lozano - Board of Directors -
monica.lozano@laopinion.com
John Chen - Board of Directors -
john.chen@sybase.com
Gary Wilson - Board of Directors -
gary.wilson@nwa.com
Leo Odonova - Board of Directors -
leo.odonovan@mbna.com
Thomas Staggs - CFO/Senior V.P. -
tom.staggs@disney.com
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Truth Seeker
said on 9/7/2006 @ 6:04 pm PT...
212-456-7777 is the number to call.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/7/2006 @ 6:14 pm PT...
Who is paying for abc's 9/11 gop political advertisement ? Follow the money . . .
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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brock samson
said on 9/7/2006 @ 6:14 pm PT...
Also note the new Al Jazeera (CIA planted?) video which suddenly came out today of bin Laden supposedly planning attacks. Mote pictures telling a story. We need to learn from these evil geniuses.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 9/7/2006 @ 6:14 pm PT...
#20
Thanks, Old Turk, that's a brilliant one from Mark Fiore! Gonna save that one.
#15 Agent99,
Can't we please make that happen ?? Pleease???
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Laura
said on 9/7/2006 @ 6:26 pm PT...
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Agent99
said on 9/7/2006 @ 6:38 pm PT...
Joan
If everybody emails the Disney people, demanding it, and if I stew hard enough about it, it could actually happen!!!!!!
OR
A bodhisattva hacker, or feed hijacker, might manage it...?
Maybe the throngs gathered for the 9/11 demonstrations in New York, or at Camp Democracy will suddenly become such big news that the garbage will be pre-empted. I have an awful lot of other really good ideas, but I better not say.............
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/7/2006 @ 6:58 pm PT...
Laura - (C) # 28
Good link,.. ultra extreme Zionism and its apartheid policies are very much a part of the Middle East's problems,.. why peace is so elusive. Thx for sharing the link.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Truth Seeker
said on 9/7/2006 @ 7:00 pm PT...
The fact that Limbaugh was given an advance copy and Clinton was not is all that I need to know about it. It is a piece of trash. I will not be watching.
I did watch Charles Gibson tonight. He presented the opposition comments about scenes that did not happen. He also asked GWB some tough questions that GWB side-stepped. I believe that the journalists at ABC are very upset about this newspeak attempt to change history.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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molly
said on 9/7/2006 @ 7:29 pm PT...
#31..I watched Charlie Gibson tonight too. He asked good and tough questions. Did Bush look more wacked out than usual or was it just me. I don't usually look at the news but had heard Tony Blair was stepping down..guess he didn't. I might become a Charlie Gibson fan. Loved the last little scene ..both of 'em riding in the back of a limo. Bush looked like he needed more meds..and his but was up on the door. So funny. Old Charlie looked calm and relaxed zinging in those questions. And how about when Bush got in Charlie's face and blocked the camera. May have worked in grade school but doesn't help the Prez. Cannonfire has a good article up about the 9/11 fuckudrama.
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Joan
said on 9/7/2006 @ 7:52 pm PT...
Agent99,
Actually, maybe if ABC gets enough requests to at least show Loose Change in addition to this propaganda, appeal to their sense of fairness...if they have one...?
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Agent99
said on 9/7/2006 @ 7:56 pm PT...
I just found this FAST way to let ABC/Disney know how I feel, and I said:
Do not air it. If you do, show LOOSE CHANGE before and after each episode.
Few bazillion of us do that, maybe the scumbags with get the message.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Laura
said on 9/7/2006 @ 8:29 pm PT...
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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Soul Rebel
said on 9/7/2006 @ 8:42 pm PT...
thanks for that link laura, i will be getting that DVD. if you hadn't read the link from the previous thread, it was Jeersey mom Kristin Breitweiser who handed Ann Coulter skinny ass too her here
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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Laura
said on 9/7/2006 @ 9:09 pm PT...
Soul Rebel, here's another clip. The Jersey Girls are true American Patriots and Heroes in my book. W/O them we wouldn't have had that shitty 9/11 independent commission. You know all those lies written into book form for us. http://www.youtube.com/w...?v=0yBgzNeqZE0&eurl=
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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Jo-Joy
said on 9/7/2006 @ 9:45 pm PT...
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COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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GWN
said on 9/7/2006 @ 10:01 pm PT...
COMMENT #40 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/7/2006 @ 10:07 pm PT...
COMMENT #41 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/7/2006 @ 11:25 pm PT...
From Judge of Judges Washington Post link above,..
This is good news,.. you don't want to brainwash future voters by contaminating the minds of today's high school students with this fascist propaganda,.. calling it a historical perspectives in accordance with the findings of the 9/11 Commission.
from WoPo link:
The network's move came as the children's publishing company Scholastic deleted from its Web site materials about "The Path to 9/11," developed in partnership with ABC, that were being offered to 25,000 high school teachers. "We determined that the materials did not meet our high standards for dealing with controversial issues," Chairman Dick Robinson said.
KEEP THE FLAMETHROWERS ON THESE NAZI's AND THEIR FASCIST PROPAGANDA,.. DON'T LET THESE BASTARDS REWRITE HISTORY AND TRANSITION MONKEY SHIT CHIMP pRESIDENT INTO AN ALTER BOY.
The airwaves are part of the public commons. The general public owns the airwaves,... the FCC issues an operating licence to ABC TV on an annual basis. We do not want the public airwaves used to disseminate their vile Nazi/Fascist Propaganda !!!! Do not gift wrap this trash,.. calling it an accurate historic perspective,.. and then shove this garbage down our throats. "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" -
BUT THE FASCIST/NAZI PROPAGANDA WILL ? Thanks for the offer - but go to hell !!!!!
Must see,.. 1 hr. film,.. "The Revolution Will not be Televised". The Venezuelan oligarchy and elite in consort with the American CIA,.. attempt a coup de tat against the democratically elected government of Hugo Chavez.
COMMENT #42 [Permalink]
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MMIIXX
said on 9/7/2006 @ 11:42 pm PT...
COMMENT #43 [Permalink]
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brock samson
said on 9/8/2006 @ 1:38 am PT...
The democrats need to learn to tell stories. If you listen to the preznit and repubs, at least they have a coherent narrative - fabricated, but coherent nonetheless. Then you hear Harry Reid or whoever talking and it's like blah blah, defensive posturing, in one ear out the other because there's no STORY.
Here's the problem: there are actually plenty of stories out there for the dems to hit up, but they consistently avoid them. elephant in the room stories of blood and deceit staring them in the face, but they just dance around them, afraid to address them directly. Therefore they end up sounding dull, which is the worst thing for a politician. Why are they so afraid? Hmm. Anybody?
And please, Loose Change might be an interesting internet download, but it will not pass for a legitimate narrative by any stretch, not because of its content, which is totally irrelevant, but because it's just not well made by standards of television or film. Part of the story that needs to be told is there, but it's not in a form that can be swallowed mainstream - like ABC's show clearly is - although it does present a good cohesive narrative, which accounts for its underground popularity.
Sorry can't get off this, too much tv.
COMMENT #44 [Permalink]
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anonymous
said on 9/8/2006 @ 1:38 am PT...
duh bIg LaBeLz
Tina.Dunn@disney.com
givenName: Tina
sn: Dunn
homePhone: 818-560-6161
o: Hollywood Records
physicalDeliveryOfficeName: 212-645-3007
COMMENT #45 [Permalink]
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Winter Patriot
said on 9/8/2006 @ 2:36 am PT...
perhaps even more despicable than the fact that this fiction posing as fact was ever made are the apologists who have to work so hard to "justify" it ...
this is Joanne Ostrow, Denver Post TV Critic, but it could be any of them [my emphasis]
A controversy rages concerning a climactic scene in the ABC drama "The Path to 9/11," airing in two parts, commercial-free, Sunday and Monday.
In the scene in question, CIA agents and the Northern Alliance had spotted Osama bin Laden's compound in Afghanistan in 1998. They knew the al-Qaeda leader was there; they could level the place with missiles but needed the go-ahead from Washington. Up and down the chain of command, the U.S. was unable to move on the information, fearing negative fallout. Sandy Berger, Bill Clinton's national security adviser, is depicted as indecisive, hanging up on the field team. Supremely frustrated, the team stood down.
Whether the U.S. let bin Laden slip as depicted here, or whether the event never happened, as former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke alleges, is beside the point.
say WHAT???
now guess what?
the title of the piece is : "9/11 hindsight that's rigorous"
excuse me while I lose it
COMMENT #46 [Permalink]
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Soul Rebel
said on 9/8/2006 @ 3:17 am PT...
I looked on iMDb for the cast of this 9-11 fiction, and I was very disappointed to see Stephen Root and Amy Madigan listed in the credits. Root is the brilliant character actor who played mumbling Milton in Office Space and boss Jimmy in NewsRadio. Amy Madigan is married to Ed Harris and the two of them were a couple of the only people not to stand and applaud Elia Kazan when the academy gave him an honorary lifetime achievement Oscar due to his cooperation with Sen. McCarthy in the 50's blacklisting period. I always thought they were pretty liberal. Bummer.
I did notice that Patricia Heaton was in the cast, she of Everybody Loves Raymond fame. She was one of the few entertainment industry outspoken Bush supporters in the last election cycle (hence my ceasing to watch Everybody Loves Raymond). Apparently 9-11 changed everything for her and Ron Silver. Now she gets to be a part of changing everything again.
COMMENT #47 [Permalink]
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Truth Seeker
said on 9/8/2006 @ 4:43 am PT...
Brock Samson,
So where do you stand? Have you swallowed the Republican hooks? You write about "democrats" as if you were not among them.
I listen to Democratic leaders on Air America, KTLK Los Angeles and MSNBC daily. They sound quite coherent to me. The problem is that their voices are generally blocked from MSM and right-wing radio. Is that where you live?
COMMENT #48 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 9/8/2006 @ 4:48 am PT...
molly #32
Molly said:
fuckudrama
That says it all!
Funny stuff!
Tipping point!
Keep it simple!
Thank you!
COMMENT #49 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 9/8/2006 @ 4:54 am PT...
Does everyone get it? That ABC, a corporate-owned entitiy, will air lies about 9/11 to make Clinton look bad? Outright lies, even according to the 9/11 commission? But will not air the scholars and scientists from st911.org? Does everyone get what's going on with corporate media propoganda? st911.org continually invites the corporate media to cover them, and they refuse. They challenge NIST to debate them, and they refuse. This is a tipping point, because you even have Clinton speaking out against this. The outcry against this propoganda would not have happened 4-5 years ago. So, times have changed.
COMMENT #50 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 9/8/2006 @ 5:24 am PT...
Hold your banner low Mickey Mouse!
Walt Disney had the honor to delay his opposition against Hitler until he was CERTAIN!
What the crap is your excuse!
I, personally, will NEVER endorse the agenda of Dick, Donald, or George!
SIMPLE, NO?
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Steve Lane
said on 9/8/2006 @ 5:52 am PT...
I am sad to report that the BBC in England will be showing this crap on the 10th and 11th.
I have written to them enclosing a copy of the Democrat Leadership letter to Disney pointing out their strong objections. I hope others have also written to them.
It has become very clear that the BBC is no longer the impartial broadcaster it claims to be. It was allways suspect but since the Kelly affair it has lost all pretence. It is a very sad day for the once Free World.
Most people have no idea how they have been blindsided by these corporate monsters.
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Mugzi
said on 9/8/2006 @ 8:19 am PT...
It is an election year and they will do ANYTHING to stay in power! I'm curious what Clinton's response would be?? Would he think of suing ABC for defamation of character? How about another commercial with Poppy?? Why doesn't ABC have a panel for open discussion??
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/8/2006 @ 10:05 am PT...
The nail in the coffin is if abc runs this shit the Dems Will Remember . . . . . Fuck disney . . .
COMMENT #54 [Permalink]
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Charlie L
said on 9/8/2006 @ 11:07 am PT...
I have acquired the domain killdisneyabc.com and will point it to anybody who can build and host a webpage that promotes the total boycotting and financial destruction of disneyabc for their pathetic attempt to prop-up the Rethuglican administration and propagate their Rovian crap.
Just send me the DNS information and I'll set up the pointers so that www.killdisneyabc.com can redirect there.
Let's make the a-holes pay for their ass-kissing of the neo-con Rethuglicans. Let's make being water-carriers for the next Nazi regime be COSTLY to the shareholders and cut into the CEO's bonuses.
Charlie
COMMENT #55 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/8/2006 @ 11:23 am PT...
Charlie L. - I just noticed your handle link . . . . . Wow that's way cool . . .
COMMENT #56 [Permalink]
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brock samson
said on 9/8/2006 @ 11:51 am PT...
Truth Seeker - I stand to the left of most democrats, certainly not swallowing any hooks, but that's beside my point. I'm not talking about speaking coherently, but puting together a coherent NARRATIVE. Do you know what I'm saying? Where's the storytelling? I'm no big fan of MSM, but I do think part of the problem is not just that counter-narratives are blocked, but rather I just don't hear democratic leaders telling the stories that need to be told, calling out the liars. What stories are you hearing, and who is telling them? Say what you want about the ABC show, I bet it tells a good story.
Soul Rebel - don't forget about "the cleaner," Harvey Keitel. I saw him on showbiz tonight (CNN) trying to weasel out of resposibility for this, but I've lost respect for him for being part of this show. But Everybody Hates Raymond is a dumbass show anyway.
COMMENT #57 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/8/2006 @ 12:01 pm PT...
COMMENT #58 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 9/8/2006 @ 1:13 pm PT...
Actually, this docudrama is backfiring, I'm glad it happened, because it's making the 9/11 scholars mad, and everyone's now talking about 9/11 more. It backfired, the ABC propoganda attempt.
Oh, and btw? FUCK YOU! ABC...
COMMENT #59 [Permalink]
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brock samson
said on 9/8/2006 @ 1:32 pm PT...
Did anyone catch Nova on PBS last night about NIST's response to 9/11 scholars' issues?
COMMENT #60 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/8/2006 @ 1:35 pm PT...
COMMENT #61 [Permalink]
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brock samson
said on 9/8/2006 @ 2:00 pm PT...
COMMENT #62 [Permalink]
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Agent99
said on 9/8/2006 @ 2:38 pm PT...
Brock
PBS has been cowed too. Once-great institutions of truth have been forced to capitulate to certain pressures in order to keep funding, and the boards are being overrun by the right. Even public broadcasting must bow to the forces of capitalism when those forces lose their allegience to the country....
COMMENT #63 [Permalink]
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Meg McBride
said on 9/8/2006 @ 2:58 pm PT...
For those of us eager to boycott Disney and ABC - Let's go a step further. Media Education Foundation (MEF) has a movie about the Disney Corporation and the shaping of American Values. It is called "The Mickey Mouse Monopoly". ( More information here: http://www.mediaed.org/v...edia/MickeyMouseM... )
I propose that those of us who feel outraged about "The Path to 9-11" invite family and friends over to our homes to watch "Mickey Mouse Monopoly" at the same time "Path to 9-11" is airing. Most University Libraries have copies, as do many public libraries. Or if you want to spend $ - call 1-800-897-0089 and order it today. It'll have to be Fed-Ex'd.
COMMENT #64 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/8/2006 @ 3:20 pm PT...
KY-J For Mickey & abc . . .
COMMENT #65 [Permalink]
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brock samson
said on 9/8/2006 @ 4:29 pm PT...
No doubt, Agent.
But will be interesting to see how "the Scholars" respond to the latest official story. Too bad Steven Jones is about to get fired from BYU for asking too many questions.
http://www.rawstory.com/...49%2C645199800%2C00.html
Wonder how many others will be silenced by this move.
COMMENT #66 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/8/2006 @ 4:31 pm PT...
JofJ - (C) # 64,..
What do you have planned for Mickey and abc ?
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An easy way to register a complaint with Disney,.. copy this list to your address box.
memberservices@disneychannel.com, disneychannel@disneyonline.com, disneyinfo@disneyhelp.com, robert.a.iger@disney.com, rich.ross@disney.com, sean.cocchia@disney.com, gary.marsh@disney.com, sarah.shelton@disney.com, scott.garner@disney.com, karen.myer@disney.com, meredith.metz@disney.com, lisa.salamone@disney.com, joanna.spak@disney.com, mark.kenchelian@disney.com, jewell.engstrom@disney.com, olivia.stafford@disney.com, albert.cheng@disney.com, karen.hobson@disney.com, george.bodenheimer@disney.com, nicole.nichols@disney.com, aime.wolfe@disney.com, patti.mcteague@disney.com, siobhan.kenny@disney.com, paul.lee@disney.com, annie.fort@disney.com, alex.wallau@disney.com, david.westin@disney.com, mike.shaw@disney.com, fred.kuperberg@disney.com, kara.rousseau@disney.com, kim.harbin@disney.com, anne.gates@disney.com, james.fielding@disney.com, deborah.dugan@disney.com, graham.hopper@disney.com, angela.emery@disney.com, chris.bess@disney.com, peter.murphy@disney.com, jestrin@packetdesign.com, john.bryson@edisonintl.com, monica.lozano@laopinion.com, john.chen@sybase.com, gary.wilson@nwa.com, leo.odonovan@mbna.com, tom.staggs@disney.com, David.K.Thompson@disney.com
COMMENT #67 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/8/2006 @ 4:42 pm PT...
O.T. - Mickey & robert iger should spend some quality time together. . .
COMMENT #68 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/8/2006 @ 4:49 pm PT...
COMMENT #69 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/8/2006 @ 5:26 pm PT...
9/11 Commission Report,..
Link
(What are you doing this weekend ?)
COMMENT #70 [Permalink]
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Truth Seeker
said on 9/8/2006 @ 5:32 pm PT...
Brock,
I think Jay Rockefeller had a good story to tell today - 400 pages.
COMMENT #71 [Permalink]
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Meg McBride
said on 9/8/2006 @ 5:39 pm PT...
Thanks Oldturk, for the list of Disney email addys. Here is the letter I sent in bulk to them:
My husband and I have 5 children. This summer we took them to Disneyland. They had a great time! So great that we planned to go to the bigger and better Disney World Resort next summer.
Since we've been back, our three-year-old daughter has been obsessed with Disney Princesses She has wanted to watch nothing but Cinderella, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, or Beauty and the Beast. I even went out and bought some of these movies that I didn't already have! I also bought her a Snow White dress-up costume, and had plans to inundate her with Disney Princess things at Christmas, and do a Disney Princess theme for her fourth birthday this January.
But no more. We're looking at going to San Antonio instead of Orlando. There is a Six Flags Roller Coaster Park and a terrific Water slide park there. Her birthday theme will probably be Hello Kitty, and for Christmas, well - we'll see. But NO DISNEY!
Why? Because of the shameful fraud your company ABC is planning to air. A pack of lies about 9/11. Utterly immoral! I am joining the boycott of ABC and of Disney. In addition, I have Contacted the FCC about ABC's violation of Political air time - because this fake documentary is clearly a political ad. I indicated to the FCC my support to remove the licenses of any station airing "Path to 9/11".
Furthermore, I have sent an email to everyone on my contact list - friends, family, co-workers, and church members - as well as to every liberal blog I know. The email is a suggestion that they watch "Mickey Mouse Monopoly" - the Media Education Foundation's (MEF) movie about Disney's negative impact on American social values. I myself will be hosting a house party Sunday night, when "Path to 9/11" is supposed to air , and having a viewing and discussion of "Mickey Mouse Monopoly".
I am even considering leading an adult spirituality class at my church that would look at contemporary issues in our society and discuss Christian perspective of each issue, and talk about how we as Christians should live our values. I think the MEF's movie on Disney would make a great first class!
Shame on you, Disney, for your part in ABC's decision to air "Path to 9/11". Me and my family are done with ABC, and done with you.
Respectfully,
Meg McBride
COMMENT #72 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/8/2006 @ 7:03 pm PT...
Meg McBride - Comment # 71
Very well written letter,.. the big shots at Disney and ABC will get the message not to pass propaganda off as a historical recording of current events.
Good job,.. THX for adding your voice to the outraged.
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FCC Complaint,.. In violation of the US Communications Act of 1934,... Link
COMMENT #73 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/8/2006 @ 7:36 pm PT...
SECRET FINANCIAL AND INTELECTUAL (fascist) BACKERS OF
ABC TV's - "The Path To 9/11"
The Judeo/Christian - Nazi/Fascist David Horowitz was very much instrumental in bringing the ABC TV's -
Docu-drama - "The Pass To 9/11". A behind the scenes extremely conservative fundimentalist christian group and the rabid anti Liberal,.. anti Clinton financier the Richard Mellon Scaife Family conceived and financed this ABC TV fascist propaganda docu-drama trying to pass it off as true to historical perspectives.
From an article,..
" With the LFF now under Horowitz's control, his political machine began drumming up support for Cunningham and Nowrasteh's "Untitled" project, which finally was revealed in late summer as "The Path to 9/11." Horowitz's PR blitz began with an August 16 interview with Nowrasteh on his FrontPageMag webzine. In the interview, Nowrasteh foreshadowed the film's assault on Clinton's record on fighting terror. "The 9/11 report details the Clinton's administration's response --- or lack of response --- to Al Qaeda and how this emboldened Bin Laden to keep attacking American interests," Nowrasteh told FrontPageMag's Jamie Glazov. "There simply was no response. Nothing."
A week later, ABC hosted LFF co-founder Murty and several other conservative operatives at an advance screening of The Path to 9/11. (While ABC provided 900 DVDs of the film to conservatives, Clinton administration officials and objective reviewers from mainstream outlets were denied them.) Murty returned with a glowing review for FrontPageMag that emphasized the film's partisan nature. "'The Path to 9/11' is one of the best, most intelligent, most pro-American miniseries I've ever seen on TV, and conservatives should support it and promote it as vigorously as possible," Murty wrote. As a result of the special access granted by ABC, Murty's article was the first published review of The Path to 9/11, preceding those by the New York Times and LA Times by more than a week.
Murty followed her review with a blast email to conservative websites such as Liberty Post and Free Republic on September 1 urging their readers to throw their weight behind ABC's mini-series. "Please do everything you can to spread the word about this excellent miniseries," Murty wrote, "so that 'The Path to 9/11' gets the highest ratings possible when it airs on September 10 & 11! If this show gets huge ratings, then ABC will be more likely to produce pro-American movies and TV shows in the future!"
The complete article with considerable links are here.
COMMENT #74 [Permalink]
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brock samson
said on 9/8/2006 @ 11:05 pm PT...
Sorry, I don't follow Seeker. What story?
COMMENT #75 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/9/2006 @ 12:25 am PT...
COMMENT #76 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/9/2006 @ 1:32 am PT...
Maybe if abc pulls this piece of shit (The sychoPath & 9/11) they could air "Song of the South" ...
COMMENT #77 [Permalink]
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Soul Rebel
said on 9/9/2006 @ 7:47 am PT...
I wrote a single line e-mail to the Denver post journalist who wrote the critique of ABCs shit (WP #45):
to jostrow@denverpost.com
Besides the Post, whose payroll are you on? Just curious.
COMMENT #78 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 9/9/2006 @ 1:47 pm PT...
COMMENT #79 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/9/2006 @ 2:01 pm PT...
Re: "Path To 9/11",.. Nazi/Fascist propaganda film-fest,
(Digby)
But as the promotional videos demonstrate, the Disney series is right-wing 9/11 porn. It has no business being broadcast. If it is, then any Congress, whether controlled either by Republicans or Democrats, should investigate whether ABC is, intentionally or not, fomenting the agenda of groups bent on subverting the government of the United States. Let's not forget. Contrary to what the extreme right thinks, this government is supposed to be a democratic republic, not an oligarchy, and not a theocracy.
In addition, this country is certainly not supposed to be a fascist state in which far-right propaganda is permitted on our mass media but anything to the left of Colin Powell's politics is deliberately squashed or quarantined, available only on less influential media and never heard by the majority of the American people.
Above Source:Link
COMMENT #80 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/10/2006 @ 12:30 am PT...
abc (all BULLSHIT channel) in our area is "5" so I got a small "5" stickers
and put them on all my tv's so we never forget abc's abortion of democracy!
COMMENT #81 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/10/2006 @ 9:57 am PT...
P.S. This also raises the level of conciousness of who
sponsors this other traitor network!
COMMENT #82 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/10/2006 @ 11:58 am PT...
Print this up,..
and tape it to your television screen,..
Visual Link
COMMENT #83 [Permalink]
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what now toons
said on 9/10/2006 @ 12:18 pm PT...
Pinocchio caught lying The ABC 9-11 pack of lies
Tonight we shall see how much editing ABC actually has done, however as a filmmaker I am well aware that story points woven into the story are hard to fully remove, and some stinky residue always seeps through, and in this case, the falsification of history, that seepage would be despicable.
History should not be rewritten to please the political party that holds power, this is the first step towards an Orwellian world. I am very disappointed that the Disney Company, a unique American company would give up it's truly American values to support a partisan lie. The effect on the Disney brand could be devastating. To see my latest cartoon on this topic, go to my website and check it out.
http://www.whatnowtoons.com/#058
COMMENT #84 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/10/2006 @ 12:43 pm PT...
abc & disney have been moved. . . . . To the Top of my Shit List . . .
COMMENT #85 [Permalink]
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Laura
said on 9/10/2006 @ 6:57 pm PT...
Old Turk I found that visual at cannonblog.com and put it as background on my PC. Who would a thunk that we would look at the great Disney Corporation like that? I want my country back.........ITMFsA
COMMENT #86 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/11/2006 @ 1:09 am PT...
Laura (C) # 85
Mickey Mouse has gone Charles Manson,.
A swastika tattooed on the lower forehead,.. between the eyebrows just above the nose. The Fuhrer would be proud. A Nazi cartoon character to entertain our children.
The neocons want plenty of little brown-shirts to vote for them down the road. Brainwash the young ones with fascist propaganda,..when they come of age to mark a ballot,.. condition them to vote ultra right-wing Republican Party only. Cleanse the political system of the last vestige of liberals and progressives.
COMMENT #87 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/11/2006 @ 2:04 am PT...
COMMENT #88 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/11/2006 @ 3:41 am PT...
Excellent Video,..
"9/11: Press for truth" - (1hr/24m/15sec)
How the government,.. the media,.. and the 9/11 Commission failed to find the truth of 9/11.
(William Jefferson Clinton was not the culprit here.)
9/11 Video Link
COMMENT #89 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 9/11/2006 @ 4:43 am PT...
I get David Horowitz and Christopher Hitchins mixed up. Can't be the names. Must be because they equally CRAZY and UNAMERICAN!
COMMENT #90 [Permalink]
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Charlie L
said on 9/11/2006 @ 11:47 am PT...
BTW, I used to work at Disney (86-89) and do a pretty good "Mickey" voice. I am officially retiring the voice from general use, but if you need it for any anti-ABC/Disney work, it is yours for free. I will "phone it in" to you if you have the facilities or record it my end and upload it. No charge - no residuals. CLL2001@gmail.com.
P.S. In re "journalists" who prop up the Republican dictatorial government. Don't assume they are "in the pay" of the thugs --- many of them are just totally brainwashed by hearing the same lies over and over for 30 years. Many of them really BELIEVE that the media is "full of liberals and out of touch with mainstream America" and don't realize that they actually CREATE that illusion with their work. They are victims of this Corporate Dictatorship, they just have better jobs that pay more and help keep the wheels running (over the innocent).
COMMENT #91 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/11/2006 @ 6:40 pm PT...
Someone Should :
Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue . . . abc
Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue . . . abc
Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue . . . abc
Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue . . . abc
Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue . . . abc
Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue . . . abc
Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue . . . abc
Until they are Bankrupt !
COMMENT #92 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/11/2006 @ 11:33 pm PT...
COMMENT #93 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 9/12/2006 @ 1:09 am PT...
These idiots at ABC never had any compunction with putting this on because they consider it to be their Fahrenheit 9-11.
Problem is, Mikes great film isn't filled with lies, even though it portrays real, living people, (if you can call them that). He's never been successfully sued, because he always TELLS THE TRUTH.
They can SAY he doesn't tell the truth until the cows come home from mars, but he does tell the truth!
And that's the difference between them and us!
I love life!
COMMENT #94 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 9/12/2006 @ 1:13 am PT...
To the tune of "Whistle While You Work"!
Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue,
Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue,
Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue Sue
Sue Sue Sue Sue
Sue Sue Sue Sue sue!
HEY!
That last part is for the Commies!
COMMENT #95 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 9/12/2006 @ 1:17 am PT...
Who Stole the kishka,
Who stole the kishka,
Who stole the kishka,
From the butchers shop?
HEY!
COMMENT #96 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 9/12/2006 @ 1:21 am PT...
Neo-cons are going down, going down, going down,
Neo-cons are going down,
May fair lady!
OK, I'll stop!
COMMENT #97 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/12/2006 @ 4:33 pm PT...
COMMENT #98 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/12/2006 @ 7:32 pm PT...
Arlen Sphinctor must probe bush. . . . . On Pre 9/11 Wiretaps . . .
COMMENT #99 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 9/12/2006 @ 10:59 pm PT...
O.T. & L.B. = Hehehehehehehe . . .
COMMENT #100 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 9/13/2006 @ 2:32 pm PT...