READER COMMENTS ON
"FRANK SCHAEFFER: Evangelical Mike Huckabee is Unfit for Command"
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Vann Hall
said on 12/1/2009 @ 9:07 am PT...
That should be "Former AR Governor."
[Ed Note: My bad. Thanks, Vann. Typo fixed. - BF]
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majii
said on 12/1/2009 @ 9:19 am PT...
Thanks for publishing Mr. Schaeffer's article because he was one of the original members/founders of this movement. I appreciate him for realizing the harm it has done to this country and for speaking out, and I appreciate you, Brad, for having the courage to always seek the truth because it is the only way our democracy can survive. With people like ex-Governor Huckabee and former president George W. Bush in contol, the country always suffers because they ignore their constituents as they pretend to get their orders from God. I've been a Christian all of my life, and I don't buy it for one minute because they do not behave toward their fellow man the way that one would expect a Christian to. They are wolves in sheep's clothing, misleading and misusing the gullible. Sarah Palin is only the next chapter in this farce. In reality, all they really want is to be worshiped and to wield power over others, the worst reasons for seeking public office.
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Diane
said on 12/1/2009 @ 9:33 am PT...
Thanks to Mr. Schaeffer for again standing up for what is wrong with the so called christians today.
It takes courage to admit that you were wrong and even more courage to defnd your thoughts and feelings in the way that Mr. Schaeffer has.
Please, keep writing!
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5ds
said on 12/1/2009 @ 10:31 am PT...
you forgot the extreme religious fanatics in and out and in our govt: wolfowitz, perle, joe lieberman, feith, libby, emmanuel, shumer. just a few. the list of jewish extremist lunatics is very long. but you are only interested in the "christian" variety.
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Ernest A. Canning
said on 12/1/2009 @ 10:37 am PT...
From The New York Times:
Robert Herzfeld, then the prosecuting attorney of Saline County, wrote a letter to Governor Huckabee in January 2004, saying his policy on clemency was “fatally flawed” and suggesting that he should announce specific reasons for granting clemency. Mr. Huckabee’s chief aide on clemency wrote back: “The governor read your letter and laughed out loud. He wanted me to respond to you. I wish you success as you cut down on your caffeine consumption.”
“It was all a very personal issue for him,” said Mr. Herzfeld, who later sued successfully to overturn one of Mr. Huckabee’s clemency decisions, which would have set free a man convicted in a bludgeoning death. “It was always about how I was trying to get him or another prosecutor was trying to get him, not about how to do it right. He’s brilliant politically and very likable, but it seems like there’s a blind spot on this issue.”
"Blind spot" precisely describes the problem with those who make sectarian, faith-based decisions pertaining to secular, public issues that require separation of church and state.
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CharlieL
said on 12/1/2009 @ 12:12 pm PT...
I'm wondering if somebody will ever do a statistical analysis of the Huckabee clemency grants to determine if the victims were black or women or non-Christians in a higher ratio than could be explained by coincidence.
My guess is that rapists were granted clemency because he doesn't really believe rape is a crime and that he granted clmency when the victims seemed "bad" to him (i.e. ethnic non-whites, women, or non-Christians).
Hopefully, in spite of the execution-without-trial of the alleged shooter, this will put his 2012 hopes to rest.
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Big Dan
said on 12/1/2009 @ 4:45 pm PT...
Could you imagine what the right would be saying, if Obama pardoned a guy who then killed 4 cops? What would Breitbart the Grouch be saying?
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purple barney
said on 12/1/2009 @ 5:51 pm PT...
obama = bush
tonight's speech just proves it. Say what you want about huck - obama isn't giving us any change either.
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Soul Rebel
said on 12/1/2009 @ 7:42 pm PT...
Just to clarify, they weren't Seattle Cops, they were from the Lakewood PD. Lakewood is an unincorporated suburb of Tacoma (about 35-40 miles south of Seattle), where I grew up and went to HS. It is not a big metropolitan area like Seattle, it is a smallish suburban community than until just a few years ago did not even have their own police force. I drove past where they were shot every single day on my way to school.
They got the guy last night, but I'm sure everyone knows that by now.
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David Shedlock
said on 12/2/2009 @ 12:56 am PT...
I too was influenced by a Schaeffer book to defend the unborn: Frank "Franky" Schaeffer's "A Time for Anger: The Myth of Neutrality". That guy made more sense than other writer in his day. Too bad he died and became the supporter of all causes God-hating.
Huckabee didn't issue a pardon as you suggested, but only a commutation, after a recommendation from the parole board. As Huckabee left him, he still had 37 years to go.
Maybe had the cop-killer been killed in the womb in advance by his mother this wouldn't have happened it, would it? The old Franky recognized how wrong cop-killing and child-killing was, whatever happened to that guy, anyway? Now he is angry at God!
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BlueHawk
said on 12/2/2009 @ 7:11 am PT...
David Shedlock @10
No.
From where I sit Mr. Schaeffer seems to have been enlightened and not angry at all anymore. It's the so-called Christians who are angry and bitter and vindictive.
I won't speak to Mr. Schaeffer's belief in "god" or not. But him exposing Evangelicals for what they've done to this country isn't being angry at "god"...hell I don't sense much anger at all. Unless of course you equate criticism with anger.
Seems you may be projecting your anger onto Mr. Schaeffer.
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BSR
said on 12/2/2009 @ 9:02 am PT...
Four police officers are dead in Washington State today because:
1) When Clemmons returned to prison in Arkansas after violating parole - where Huckabee left him --Arkansas prosecutors failed to file the proper paperwork in the case for the 3 YEARS, causing all charges to be dropped and freeing him.
2)A ridiculous bail system in Washington State allowed Clemmons to bail himself out of jail without even having to see a judge - EVEN AFTER he's threatened the police, saying 'I'll kill all you bitches."
3)On his next arrest, this one for child rape and 7 other felonies, two Washington State judges set bail amounts so low - over prosecutors' objections - that Clemmons was able to walk away from jail again JUST 6 DAYS before the killings.
Those are the facts, you sorry excuse for a journalist. Where is your article lambasting these inept clowns who really let this happen?
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dd
said on 12/2/2009 @ 1:13 pm PT...
BRS you are wrong. You must have gotten your information off of Fox, no surprise that they got it all wrong. I live about an hour away from where these police officers were murdered and have been reading the local papers and news. Please get your facts straight before spreading it around.
Mike Huckabee is responsible for turning this animal loose in our state.
Grieving in Washington
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Colored Opinions
said on 12/2/2009 @ 3:38 pm PT...
Frank Schaeffer misses the significance of Huckabee during the primaries last year. Huckabee made sure the Evangelical vote was divided which was one of the reasons Obama got elected.
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BlueHawk
said on 12/2/2009 @ 9:22 pm PT...
Colored Opinions @Comment @14
You're kidding right ?
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ObiJonKenobi
said on 12/2/2009 @ 11:55 pm PT...
Give me a FREAKING break.
Huckabee approved parole of a young black man who had been given 95 FREAKING years for a series of robberies and bringing a gun onto school grounds. No one was hurt in any of his crimes. Yes, a young thug, but 95 years??? And, he served 11 years at the point Huckabee paroled him. This was a break that gave him another chance at life - a break he quickly blew.
The people that are responsible are the ones in both Arkansas and Washington that saw his later patterns of criminal behavior and mental instability AFTER he was given a second chance and either allowed parole AGAIN (in the case of Arkansas) or allowed him out on bail (in the case of Washington). Huckabee's mistake was MINOR compared to them!!
Note; I couldn't disagree more with Huckabee politically but I"m not in favor of giving the Willie Horton treatment to anyone, even a conserative.
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corporate world
said on 12/3/2009 @ 3:52 am PT...
isnt huckabee chuck norris' boy? is he running again next election?
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hidflect
said on 12/3/2009 @ 3:58 am PT...
I never heard that Huckabee pardoned people so much. Good or bad it shows the liberal and right media are both selective about what they report. Huckabee might be masking a potential loon underneath a facade - who knows? But I give kudos to someone who takes big personal risk following through with well-intentioned beliefs that get him no personal benefit. Makes a change from sh1theads like Lieberman who triangulate the payoff for every next vowel and consonant.
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JS
said on 12/3/2009 @ 4:57 am PT...
And Huckabee would defend to the death the right of the shooter to carry a gun.
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cann4ing
said on 12/4/2009 @ 7:56 am PT...
Colored Opinions said
Huckabee made sure the Evangelical vote was divided which was one of the reasons Obama got elected.
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Ding ding ding! Anybody home?
Huckabee did not run against McCain & Obama in the general election. He came in second in the Republican primaries; lost the "Republican nomination" to McCain who selected Palin in order to appeal to that obnoxious, know-nothing minority you refer to as the "Evangelical vote."
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Colored Opinions
said on 12/5/2009 @ 12:56 am PT...
To suggest that all Evangelicals voted for Mccain is incorrect. Many either stayed home or voted for Obama.
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Robert Collette
said on 12/6/2009 @ 4:07 pm PT...
What a dilemma for Christian politicians. It must be difficult to belong to a religion initiated by a man/god who forgave the people who killed him--I cannot say that I am a Christian as I still hate my enemies but I know that I should move in that direction and I am trying. I would not want to be in the justice system these days as I guess no one will ever again be pardoned in this "Christian" nation. I don't see that this nation has ever forgiven anyone for any injustice real or imagined. We have executed and imprisoned many innocent people however and are very quick to go to war with any country that sits on top of oil or pipeline routes. I only hope that humanity is more forgiving of the U.S. than we are of our fellow men.