Said Norm Coleman, as he announced his election contest:
“Democracy is not a machine. Sometimes it’s messy and inconvenient, and reaching the best conclusion is never quick because speed is not the first objective, fairness is.”
He also added, as if he was serious, “We are filing this contest to make absolutely sure every valid vote was counted.”
The sore-loser Coleman, who refuses to move on, was explaining his tin-foil hat conspiracy theories of a stolen election to reporters and cry-baby supporters, as he made the sour-grapes comments which threaten democracy, as quoted above.
I find the lack of comment on Israel’s recent actions in the Gaza strip very disturbing. I’ve been a reader of this site since 2004 and have great admiration for the work done regarding the topic of election integrity. Which is why I find it so incredibly sad to see this site helping to IGNORE the atrocities being committed in Israel right now. I guess there’s some truths that your audience isn’t quite ready for Brad?
Isn’t it wonderful that politicians invoke “democracy” when they lose,claiming that somehow it had failed them and was “imperfect”,but, when they win,it rarely enters their vocabulary and they choose to ignore it as much as possible.
GOS, this site doesn’t typically involve itself in non-election and non-media issues. While you could argue the Israel situation is really a media situation, that’s a bit of a stretch.
Back on topic: Coleman should excercise his legal rights on the issue, and provided everything in the process is transparent and seen by the courts, then the court’s decision will ultimately (and rightfully+legally) decide the situation.
And this is the man who during the election railed against the judicial branch” where activist, liberal judges changed the intended process night for day. I always wondered why Mr Coleman, a lawyer had such disdain for the legal system of which he is part.
When this process started I said at least we have a process that is about as fair and open as you could wish, whoever wins,. It is too bad that our former Senator doesn’t trust the people, process and laws he was sworn to serve.
Why is it re counts are sore loser only if the democrats do it? Are we just spineless as a group?
I don’t know that Coleman’s comments threaten democracy, precisely, perhaps just Democrats 🙂
I always wondered why Mr Coleman, a lawyer had such disdain for the legal system of which he is part.
Well he is a member of the party that has held
for thirty years that “Government isn’t the solution to the problem, (no matter what it is)
it is the problem.” And as a member of that party
he wants to go back to work for the government.
Maybe that’s why he always looks like a sourpuss.
He’s never been happy in in his work.
PETER, I think it’s a little ridiculous to say that this site soley focus’s on matters of election and media. One of the tag lines of the site is that it’s not about left or right it’s about right or wrong. The issue of prop 8 and gay rights has been covered, along with many others, but really, is one’s choice of FORUM really that important when the topic is genocide? I think not.
And if you really think that any situation involving Israel and the U.S. isn’t a media issue then you’ve already been successfully propagandized by the corporate media. It’s a shame that Brad, dogged pursuer of election integrity, has little or nothing to say about what clearly is one of the most important issues of our time. I think Israel’s actions are unequivocally wrong, and in addition, the state has lied repeatedly in the run up to, and operation of this military action. Why is it that Brad is comfortable criticizing the U.S. and George Bush in this regards but so tight-lipped when it’s Israel with blood on her hands?
If only we could have such an exhaustive and time-consuming review of Mr. Coleman’s dubious election six years ago. Of course, that was another plane crash in another time.
Gos –
If you’ve not noticed, I’ve been on the road for the last month and a half, and haven’t been able to keep up with nearly as much as I’d like.
That said, since you’ve been reading since 2004, you’ve likely also noticed that I generally only cover items about which I have something to add. There are a great many topics of import that we’ve haven’t touched here at all, either because they are adequately covered elsewhere, or I simply don’t have anything substantive to add to what’s already out there.
When, if, I have something to add to the current Israel/Gaza travesty, and have the time to post it, you can rest assured I will. Until then, I’m sorry to see that you seem to be jumping to some kind of conclusion based on the lack of coverage of that (or any other) issue.
When I have something to say, I do. When I don’t, it would be foolhardy to presume anything about any particular position that either I, or the blog may have.
Remember, this is still generally a one man operation. One who has been traveling, sick, and ordered to stand down as much as possible by the doctor. (some details here.) When I can find guest bloggers available and willing to work for free, in my absence, I do. But that’s not always possible, and hiring folks is out of the question, as donations are few, and most of my monthly subscribers have had to cancel recently, for whatever reasons, following the elections.
Hope all of that info is helpful to ya. Thanks for your input, and I’m glad you’re able to post your own thoughts on just about anything, here for all to read.
Re #1, #8,
I must add my two cents, Gos.
Brad is one guy. It looks to me like he’s been doing more than his share to try & save the world these last few years.
Unfortunately the world needs a lot of saving, but there’s a limit to how much one man can be expected to do, wouldn’t you say?
Brad’s built up a body of experience on voting & on our election system; ergo, he’s taken seriously on those issues, it’s very evident that he “knows whereof he speaks”.
(not to dis your expertise on the Israel/Hamas situation, Brad…maybe you’re as well-versed on it as you are on election issues…I’m just sayin’. Oh jeez, I’ve probably gone & put my foot in my mouth again)
So! On a lighter note…
“The sore-loser Coleman, who refuses to move on, was explaining his tin-foil hat conspiracy theories of a stolen election to reporters and cry-baby supporters, as he made the sour-grapes comments which threaten democracy, as quoted above.”
Love that sentence. How nostalgic (in an unpleasant, gut-wrenching sort of way) to re-visit those old, familiar phrases!
And by the way, Mr. Coleman, why do you hate America? Why do you hate the troops?
Not to further derail the thread, but the Israeli-Palestinian issue has tons of sites dedicated to it. This is not the case (for the most part) on election and voting issues.
Its incredibly hard to find an unbiased site on the Israel topic, since pro-Israeli’s will slant everything towards their view, and pro-palestinians will slant everything towards their view.
Although I’m no internet (or world) expert on the topic, I did study the history of the region in a lot of detail and visited many sites a number of years ago. Although I haven’t been there in a while, I recommend http://www.nimn.org Its a site run by Jews titled ‘not in my name’, because they’re outraged by the kinds of things Israel does in the names of ‘all’ Jews. It has maps and histories showing what happened in the region, and if any group is likely to unveil untruths from the pro-Israel perspective, they are.
#12 Disillusioned,
My knowledge of history is pretty dismal. I’d like to know more about Israeli/Palestinian history & wasn’t sure where to go, so thanks for the link.