Blogged by Brad Friedman from Denver…
I’m up in the press skyboxes at the Pepsi Center tonight where Hillary Clinton just finished her speech. The place was absolutely jammed, literally, to the rafters, as the “UNITY” “HILLARY” “OBAMA” signs flowed on schedule through the throngs.
How she did will be up to you to decide. Or rather, for ABCNBCCBSCNNMSNBCFOX to tell you how to decide. May have more later tonight, though it’s been a very long day here. So let’s consider this an open thread for your thoughts on tonight’s pageantry, until I’m able to check back in again…
Her speech was excellent and should have left her supporters no doubt what she expected of them. It was a lively speech but wasn’t a barn-burner. For sheer visceral excitement Kucinich was the one to watch. He’s a very animated speaker and can get a crowd on it’s feet.
I was kind of surprised that the crowd response to the speech was stepped on by the closing invocation though; it was a happy moment and the crowed was clapping and loud when they were rather abruptly silenced to end the nights program. I thought it put a damper on the event and verged on rudeness.
I listened to her on NPR this evening, and I thought her speech was off-the-scale terrific.
So did my husband.
And neither of us have ever been HRC supporters.
Our 13-year-old didn’t care. Tomorrow’s her first day of school, and she spent the evening texting with all her girlfriends about what they’re all wearing tomorrow.
It’s good to know there are matters more prescient than saving the world from the Rethugs.
After watching Glenn Greenwalds report on the VERY PRIVATE party AT&T threw for the Blue Dogs,
http://www.salon.com/opinion/gr...ogs/index.html
HRC’s repeated line in her speech about the Dems being a party of the people, and NOT the privileged few shows that she can lie with the best of them.
With all the Bush policy bashing and the chronicling of his offenses against the citizenry, it was quite conspicuous in it’s absence, ANY mention of the illegal wiretaps. AT&T sure got it’s moneys worth.
Her Botox job looked though.
She looked great. So did her daughter. It was a damn convention speech. Thin air. Bubba mouthing “I love you” over and over was sickening. I’d much rather have spent my evening listening to world leaders speaking ingenuously about serious things.
Good talk, but not strong enough to turn around the idiots who are intending to revenge themselves on the whole Nation because their candidate blew it early in the campaign. The McShame forces are going to dissect every speech she made during the run-up, and use every one of her unfair attack points against Obama. She should have taken the high road during the early days, so that her efforts to gain the nomination could not be used against Obama. The CNN commentators (who are entirely too fond of the sound of their own voices) couldn’t make up their minds whether she really likes Barack or hates his insides. (And maybe Bill Clinton DOES love his wife. My impression of the man is that he is attracted to anything in skirts – but they’ve stayed together, so there must be more there than political expediency.)
I had to stop watching it on NBC because the talking heads wouldn’t STFU. They endlessly rambled on about complete BS while all the speakers were in the background getting the crowd all amped up.
I personally could give a rats ass what Brian Williams along with every single reporter had to spew. I want to hear what the SPEAKERS had to say.
So I turned to CSPAN which covered it like it was supposed to be.
Clinton’s speech was “OK” but nothing special at all. However and as usual Kucinich’s speech was OUTSTANDING!
Naturally none of MSM (Except CSPAN) played any of it that I saw.
It is quite clear that the MSM wants to steer/lead/manipulate what it is you hear and what THEY want you to think.
I also do not believe for one damn second that McSame is actually leading in the polls now, that is pure BS.
I flatly refuse to believe that a majority of the public would elect BUSH AGAIN!
I flatly refuse to accept that a candidate (Obama) that drew crowds that many times would fill a football stadium is even close poll wise to a candidate (McSame) that rarely was able to even fill a small High School gymnasium.
I live in a red state and I have not seen even ONE McSame bumper sticker or yard sign, yet see Obama ones every day.
None of that adds up to McSame being even close let alone leading in the polls.
That tells me that they already have this S-election stolen.
They are making everyone believe that McSame is close in the polls so when they switch the 10s of Millions of votes needed for that nut bag to steal the white house there wont be any riots in the streets, just shoulder shrugs in November.
Why not? I mean they KNOW they can get away with it with no problem what so ever and we the ignorant people will do nothing about it.
We are going to get exactly what we deserve in November.
We bounced around from CNN to CSPAN to FOX. Thank God for CSPAN! At least there is one station that shows you what is happening without telling you what they think the speakers think and how you are supposed to think!
Aaargh!
We couldn’t help but notice there were actually other speakers beside the headliners. Only CSPAN showed them. the other stations had their “pundits” blathering on and on telling us what they think the news is going to be, in between ads for their corporate sponsors.
As for Hillary Clinton’s speech, it was good, but not historic. I do however, want whoever did that video about her to make a movie about me! Wow!
Hillary’s inspirational unity speech may go down as one of the greats.
It also served as her first campaign speech of her next office.
MSNBC’s coverage with Olbermann and crew was truly enjoyable.
nunya says
“I also do not believe for one damn second that McSame is actually leading in the polls now, that is pure BS.
I flatly refuse to believe that a majority of the public would elect BUSH AGAIN!
I flatly refuse to accept that a candidate (Obama) that drew crowds that many times would fill a football stadium is even close poll wise to a candidate (McSame) that rarely was able to even fill a small High School gymnasium.
I live in a red state and I have not seen even ONE McSame bumper sticker or yard sign, yet see Obama ones every day.
None of that adds up to McSame being even close let alone leading in the polls.”
i agree,i pray i am wrong but logic tells me u and i r correct
The polling skew is maybe unintended since the automated telephone polls leave out the extensive cellphone-only crowd. It reminds me of the famous story of the 1948 telephone poll that mispredicted “Dewey beats Truman” because more Republicans owned phones than Democrats. (I’m cellphone only for home and at work I’m behind a switchboard, so the automated pollsters could never reach me.)
Nunya, I agree too, and I urge this strategy:
Every precinct in this country will already have an Obama volunteer in attendance in one capacity or another. This volunteer should report to the campaign at the close of the polls how many dems voted, how many repubs voted, how many others, etc., and what the total vote count was in that precinct. This information can be submitted in an encrypted online form that is pre-programmed into a nationwide database on election night. These numbers should be compared with the officially reported numbers, as well as the exit polls, to make sure there are no suspicious discrepancies. Yes, some dems will vote McCain, but not very many. And if you are right, a landslide for Obama will show up in an independent verification even if it doesn’t show up in the “official” Diebold count.
apparently the kucinich speech was edited to leave out a great line:
“They’re asking for another four years “” in a just world, they’d get 10 to 20.”
Karen.. Agreed and I hope we are wrong also but I don’t think so. Although what Paul said is very possible, of all the people I know I only know one that still has a land line phone.
I haven’t had a land line in over 8 years.
Even my 92 year old mother has been cell phone only for 5 years.
Plus this election is “supposed” to be when the under 25 year olds are going to make a big showing and 80+% of them are Democrat.
Sheila: sounds like a good idea if it can be implemented on short notice.
HEY, I still have a land line phone! Sadly I don’t answer polls. Too much of a chance for someone to record your voice saying, “Yes” then charging some crap to your bank account. I feel old, Let me whip out my Nose Hair Trimmer and go to work on my ears and nosehairs… ;o)
Ahh the fur trimmins…
What bugs me the most about the 2008 DNC, is
1.) Speakers are coming out of a giant planter box. Should we add water and fertilizer to make them grow? Or was this just for Nancy Pelosi to show off specimens that were transplanted and propagated out of her swamp preserve? You know the freakin water supply was the George W. Bush Sewage Treatment Plant Bypass.
2.) Corporate coverage won’t shut the hell up, I don’t want to hear your anchor’s fucking opinion, I want to hear COVERAGE from the freaking STAGE.
Someone said it best, Coverage of the Coverage’s, Coverage. I disagree, I think it’s simply Hunter Thompson style reporting. All for RATINGS and FASCIST Commercialism.
3.) Meat and potatoes lacking. Let’s get some nitty gritty details of how your going to turn this country around. Enough HISTORY LESSONS!!!
4.) I got tricked on Kucinich’s speech. An email saying when where, but the corporate media on PBS, either I missed it or never heard him. Finally got it on YouTube. I have to have a broadband web connection in order to hear the best Senator we’ve had in the last 50 years? Should have been on CSPAN I guess, but again, that’s either a CABLE PAY channel or a Broadband Connection with knowledge. The American people are NOT INFORMED.
“Wake up America, Wake up America, Wake up America!” Hit your local FASCIST news station’s public file and complain!
5.) There seems to be a few people locked up who were protesting, and they have had their Constitutional Rights violated. Where’s the coverage on that? Looks like history repeats itself, http://www.2600.com/rnc2004/ . So what the fuck is going to be done to stop this nonsense?
Nothing I guess.
Phil.
Not only were some of the protesters locked up ILLEGALLY because they did nothing wrong what so ever, but also a few have been beaten for absolutely no reason at all except to try and incite a riot.
http://www.rockymountainnews.co...ice-use-force/
There was a little group of loons called “Recreate 68” which is a bunch of agents provocateurs hired to make protesters look crazy.
The so called “news” especially Faux Noise is desperately trying to blend these agents into the 9/11 truth & any anti war movements in an effort to make them look like a bunch of crazies.
http://blogs.westword.com/demve...es_takes_o.php
http://badamerican.wordpress.co...defend-malkin/
http://justgetthere.us/blog/arc...st-Groups.html
Welcome to the Police State, Sieg Heil!
This is why I simply can not go to anymore of these protest because I don’t want to be arrested.
If I had been right there during this I could not have stopped myself from slamming my fist as hard as I possibly could right in that pigs face.
Crap like this makes me so mad that I literally see red.
sheila,
those r great ideas
i visit obamas blog once in a while and i know bobby kennedy jr and his bunch of lawyers have been warning the campaign to be ready to count the vote
what i think we need
1.actually list of voting age peops per precinct
2.as many affidavids as poss,saying peops have voted for obama or whomever (by precinct)voterescue has been working on this for awhile
3.actually counting of signatures at each precinct,matching that to number of votes at precinct and yes ur how many dems ,how many repubs voted should be in that number
4.be ready BEFORE the election
i heard on cspan that craigslist is trying to get a complete list of voting age peops together but i think we need one site to coordinate all this info in one place