H/t: Pam's House Blend

Who cares if he was or wasn't gay? I don't.
He was known by his work,for the good of our country and the common man, for Liberty, Prosperity and Peace for all. There is no discrimiation in THAT!
Let this dear soul rest in peace.

400 grand, c'mon, and he died.
Sounds like medical staff is highly over rated.
Some one made a nice profit, lack of competition.

Sad ~ I would hope ron paul would pony up substantial cash if he's decent.

How does it cost $400,000 to provide a bed, a bible, a magazine, a newspaper, some light, aspirin, penicillin, ventilator and three meals a day, and occasionally test by blowing into a plastic tube to see how far the little balls go?

What the hell is going on with the hospitals?

This is sad - but. natch, it is par for the course; "Final expenses" are bankrupting the Nation! However; there is an expose that needs to be fully investigated. Some of the real talent here should investigate McCain's connection with the Lansky-Bronfman syndicate. Cindy's fortune largely results from "Services" her dad performed for Kemper Marley, the Capo of Phoenix, and Bugsy Siegel's partner. Let's see - some of the juicier bits - McCain's wife was deathly ill, so he took a really cute kistress named Cindy Hensley. This action enraged the Reagans so much that thet=y cut all ties to him, which bothered him not at all, because he had all that loverly mob money to dip into. And, of course, he was a charter member of the Keating Five - No matter WHAT you might say about Ron Paul, the MOB has no input into his candidacy, where they arguably OWN McCain. You could check it out.

Who deals whenever he was or wasn't gay? .
He was acknowledged by his work,for the good of our country and the common man, for Liberty, successfulness and ataraxis for all. There is no discretion in THAT!
Let his beloved soul rest in peace.
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Mac

The only relevance of speculating, in the above story, as to whether Mr. Snyder may have been gay is that it is possible that he had AIDS and, if so, that would certainly increase his chances of dying from an opportunistic infection (one that may not normally be lethal in a person with a competent immune system).

Also, $400,000 for a 2 month hospitalization, probably at least some of it in an ICU and possibly requiring some very expensive antiviral (and other) medications, would actually not be a surprising amount, no matter what country he was hospitalized in. Unfortunately, he was hospitalized in the U.S. where there is not universal healthcare coverage and where the burden of payment falls to the patient or his/her family if they are uninsured (and often, even if they are insured!) and can bankrupt and destroy one's life even when they survive. Ironically, Ron Paul, a libertarian, not only did not give his campaign staff health insurance, he would certainly be against any government sponsored program to provide universal healthcare.

Steve #7, that irony eludes all Libertarians, now good insured citizens/taxpayers will bail the hospital out.

Why health insurance? Isn't it fraud from the beginning? Dirty tricks in the fine print to selectively deny or allow treatment, Health Care is what the United States needs..Health Care. And if not health care, at least allow underground health care..

e.g. Weed, pot.

Definition of a Libertarian; a person who thinks so poorly of "Governmental Interference" that he will vote to shut down the fire department while his own house burns.

What a fitting way for Snyder to die. He worked for a RepubliKKKan whose party is dedicated to the destruction of gay people. A party that is responsible for the state of our health care system. A gay RepubliKKKan activist dying from AIDS and without health insurance...now that's justice.

What a fitting way for Snyder to die. He worked for a RepubliKKKan whose party is dedicated to the destruction of gay people. A party that is responsible for the state of our health care system. A gay RepubliKKKan activist dying from AIDS and without health insurance...now that's justice.

Yeah, the same Ron Paul that just voted in favor of proceeding with Kucinich's article of impeachment. Im sure you're one of the True Believers that will act as cheerleader for scumbags like Pelosi and Reed while you trash people like Ron Paul.

And why were his bills $400,000 in the first place? Some of you should pick up Ron Paul's Manifesto some time. You might learn something.

#11- Unless you know something the rest of us don't, it's only speculation (mine included) that Snyder may have been gay and died of an AIDS related complication. It's sad even if it may be ironic.

#12- Ron Paul certainly has many admirable qualities but his general libertarian philosophy would be a disaster for this country as, it seems, is being demonstrated by the move toward deregulation and the general libertarian philosophy of the Republican Party as regards regulation of corporations and our infrastructure.

You consider bailing out the banksters and sending welfare checks to the likes of Raytheon and Boeing "General Libertarian Philosophy"? That's interesting.

And what you consider "regulation" others consider fascism. Just ask the Olympic athletes how much all that "regulation" has helped China. Just because the state makes rules it doesn't mean the fascists have to follow them, the rubes are the ones that the imperial stormtroopers will enforce it on, not the entrenched corporations that such "regulations" prop up and protect.

Wilbur ~ I believe to to some degree we have experimented with libertarianism over the past 7 1/2 or so years and look what it got us . . .

I'd've gone with "libertinism"....

When you die, your debts should die with you.

If he wasn't married, certainly the debts shouldn't fall to his extended family.

Those of you who keep passing around the lie that Kent was 'gay' are going to be subject to a libel suit if you don't remove these articles soon. We are keeping a list and there will be action taken.

You cannot just come out and say someone is gay without proof. Just because he was not married doesn't mean he was gay.

Also not having insurance has nothing to do with being unable to fight an illness. Kent was the one who did not want to provide himself insurance for the campaign workers.

Trying to target and blame Ron Paul is a very low tactic.

This comment:

What a fitting way for Snyder to die. He worked for a RepubliKKKan whose party is dedicated to the destruction of gay people. A party that is responsible for the state of our health care system. A gay RepubliKKKan activist dying from AIDS and without health insurance...now that's justice.

Will be noted on the lawsuit against this blogger.
Kent did NOT have AIDS, was NOT GAY. How dare you talk about destruction of people? You will pay for this.

NH-
While the comments you block quote are certainly objectionable, your comments that

"Those of you who keep passing around the lie that Kent was 'gay' are going to be subject to a libel suit if you don't remove these articles soon. We are keeping a list and there will be action taken"

are absurd. The possibility of whether Mr. Snyder was gay or had AIDS was only speculation regarding the possible cause of death of a previously healthy, younger man from a viral illness. There is no judgment intended in such speculation. Offensive comments like #11 above notwithstanding, perhaps you need to look at your own biases as you seem to imply a rather judgmental and negative connotation on being gay or having AIDS. It's really irrelevant whether he was gay or had AIDS (I'll take your word that he didn't), it's just sad that he died and that he might have had to worry about how the cost (let alone the fact) of his illness would impact him (or possibly, his family).

Please tell us this: would Dr. Paul's libertarian philosophy make him inclined to be for or against any government sponsored or mandated assistance to obtain insurance for those who can't otherwise afford it?

Would libel even exist in a pure Libertarian US?, I think not.

Freedom of speech and all that.

More hypocrisy from the right.

No one here cares if he was gay or not, the point was somebody has to pay for his care seen as he was so negligent in his life choices and didn't have health insurance, period.

Libertarianism = Live half assed and go off half cocked

government sponsored or mandated assistance to obtain insurance for those who can't otherwise afford it?

It already exists, it's called Medicaid 'Share of Cost'

It's for unemployed/underemployed persons.

If you make over a certain amount for a certain month, say 400 dollars, without hitting a pre-determined maximum and your medical costs go over that amount ($400), they pay for your medical bills for that period.

It's a complicated formula, but it is there for people who need it in Florida anyway.

...well I must say that I am shocked to see so many blame his death on speculation of him having AIDS witch is nobody's business but Kent's. Lemme get this "straight"; if you are a republican (witch I proudly am) nobody cares a bit if you die and leave a wife and kids behind with a 400 grand bill? What if on the other hand he was a democrat in the same circumstance? To those that mock libertarian ideals without fully understanding them is the exact same thing you were doing to people with AIDS in the 80's. Anyone here gots money in IndyMac? Got a nice mortgage with Freddie or Fannie? Dr. Paul was warning us months ago that no matter how big a band aid you throw at this system, it will fail because the underlying cause of all this suffering is none other than the Federal Reserve System. We have allowed private banks to print our money (taking the wealth away from the people where it belongs) and for some reason you people think he's crazy? You wanna know why Obama voted "yes" so that your government can keep us safe from the bad guys? Opensecrets.org is the answer...he took over 11 million dollars from telecoms! He is just as bought and paid for as McGoo. Libertarianism is just that....LIBERTY. Does that scare you? Do guns scare you? Does allowing people to think for themselves and control their own lives and destinies scare you? Having to pay for your own kids to go to college...frightening,isn't it? If the wealth was restored to it's rightful owners, we again would be the most prosperous nation in the world. Your Obama and McCain will bring this country 3 steps backward,if not to the brink of global annihilation. CFR told them to.

Pat

I for one would love to see the Fed abolished, and the SEC re-empowered, and the people once more allowed to prosper to enjoy their freedoms and the fruits of their own labor, but things have been made SO outrageously unequal for so long there are just too many people who would suffer even more horribly without what passes for a safety net now.

Too much of the Libertarian platform really amounts to people are free to starve to death and die of curable things. We don't like to think it, but no Libertarian with whom I have spoken has been able to address this problem with more than a shrug.

And what makes you think Libertarians could stop the CFR perfidy anyway? Wouldn't they be as free as everyone else?

It's to bad he wasn't an illegal alien, then it would have been free.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJxmJZXgNI

McLame or Hussain abominable should have to pay... LaRaza is McLame race, and Hussain is insane.

Agent99 said, "Too much of the Libertarian platform really amounts to people are free to starve to death and die of curable things."

That's the fallacy being perpetrated here: To think that people would suddenly get "cut-off" and end up only being "free" to die. The truth is that the corporate and general welfare systems would be slowly eliminated, but it can not be successful without pulling our troops out of all these countries around the world, including the reversal of national and trans-national subsidies, and the removal of the Federal Reserve and IRS. More specifically, this would eventually lead to less people suffering and more people being willing to help those afflicted due to us having more money. 'Cause not only will we be able to keep more of the fruits of our labor, we'll be able to experience the benefits of charity and goodwill first hand, rather then by inept and costly second hand charity by Big Brother.

This book has many great examples of wasteful government sponsored welfare and offers valuble solutions to these issues. I also understand your concern and can only say that any Libertarian thinking that has a deemphasis on compassion is mistaken. On the contrary, with more Freedom comes more responsibility.

So... can you really support a grossly inefficient system that steals wealth from its people on a national level? Is it wrong to take care of yourself now-a-days? Apparently, the government thinks you need to be taken care of from cradle-to-grave. Look at the Katrina incident: People who helped themselves were denied Fed assistance, most of the aid that our stanchest allies sent was turned away and, although not directly related, the 2nd Amendment was shredded when Blackwater and friends went on a gun grabbing spree.

Personally, those who believe the government should take care of them are the same ones who believe that We the People could care less, are too naive, and are too selfish to ever help out anybody other then themselves. Yet when I see people dropping everything to help strangers in another State, I know you or anybody else is wrong about perpetuating socialism.

Note: I also work in the medical industry and can assure you that Universal Healthcare will cost much more then any other proposed system, much more then our "Managed Care" which both are forcing profits upon the Medical Industrial Complex. Each non-insured client is charged $40 for a visit. Insured clients who come in guarantee us about $118 for the same treatment. With Universal Healthcare, we're getting the $118 every single time.

A tanking dollar doesn't help either...

Now can you see why medical care is so expensive and why the Land of the Free should not follow the socialist bandwagon? Can you see that Kent's medical expenses would be a lot less and donations a lot larger if only people were encouraged to be charitable by letting them keep their money in the first place?

If so, then you'll also see that forcing businesses and people to pay for others through bureaucracy not only leads to animosity and waste, but also record profits for the medical and insurance industries since they are assured customers rather then compete for them. Of course, promoting individual responsibility will never happen so long as we are taxed to the hilt --- subsidize medicine or anything else.

In a 2005 ruling of the Canadian Supreme Court, Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin wrote that "access to a waiting list is not access to healthcare."

Get ready to wait in line...

...that's exactly the point. Just because I don't have to help those in need doesn't mean I wouldn't. Americans are some of the most generous people around. Just don't force me to do it when I don't have the money to give in the first place. Not about Right or Left...it's about right and wrong.

In a few days the news is going to tell us, FORMALLY, (like we didn't know this already) that our country is in a recession. We have known this for quite some time now, yet we kept hearing Bush tell us that the economy was ok; we are doing alright. Some kinda piece of work he is huh?

We the people hired the democrats to get things back on track but they TOOK THE WRONG TRACK !

Things are gonna get worse too. No one can fix what is wrong in washington. The only ones who can fix what is wrong is US !

We have the power. It was given to us by our fore fathers. The more these empty headed nut jobs in Washington keep lying to you and the more you keep sucking it up, the more trouble your gonna find yourself in.

The democrats and republicans are all in the same bed together. It doesn't matter which of these empty headed nutshells you choose to run the country, it really doesn't. Because they don't run the country for you. They run the country the way the people from OTHER countries want it run.

Washington D. C. has stolen most all of our freedoms and liberties, we don't live in freedom anymore. Look at your taxes. Do you like working an 8 hour day just to pay 4 hours of your hard work to tax?

Obama will RAISE your taxes, John McCain will just have more money printed so that we will owe more debt. You call what we have freedom?

You have lost your privacy rights, which is an impeachable offense itself, your 4th, 5th and 6th ammendment rights were violated and no one did a damn thing about it.

One day and (not too long from now either) your gonna wake up under a communist government. It's coming. Do you like the idea of that?

The country has been socialized and Maxine Waters told us so when we saw her in front of congress talking to the oil companies.

"We are gonna take over your companies"! she said. "We are talking about socializat (she stopped before the full word came out)"

You can most likely check that on c-spans archives.

Socialization is the step before communism people.

The ten planks of the communist manifesto are operating in the usa right now. We are all about to lose our freedom and our rights and our liberties and because of being dumbed down by a government school system, too many people are not even aware of it.

When they come for you it will be too late to speak up then. Government is not there to make you happy. They are there to make you as miserable as they possibly can.