I have bitterly disagreed with Hitchens on Iraq, but on the election fraud issue he is spot-on.

Good for you on this one, Hitch!

Hey Allen, where was that signing ?
Out on the street outside the LA mission ?
The winos down there are too good for the likes of him IMO.
Don't worry , he'll get crocked tomorrow and say somthing stupid.

He only said it because one of his mentors, Stalin, was 100% in favor of paper ballots and hand counting.

Hitches should quote Stalin who said: "It is not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes".

Yep, if paper ballots are good enough for Hitchens, they are good enough for Stalin.

These simplistic types are not spot on they are full of blind spots.

All election systems, whether machine based or paper ballots only, depend upon the integrity of those managing them.

Give me officials who are honest above all, and I will allow them to use machines, machines and paper ballots, or paper ballot only systems.

Give me officials who are corrupt and I really am not going to waste my time trying to fix the machines or the color and shape of the ballots:

Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree corrupt and its fruit corrupt; for the tree is known by its fruit.

(Mat 12:33). A corrupt system will never work with or without machines.

Hitchens is right-on about e-vote machines, and his smoking out religious fraud, too. I used to hate him, but he makes sense on these 2 issues.