READER COMMENTS ON
"Evidence Suggests U.S. Attorney Firings May Have Been Part of White House Scheme to Help Game 2008 Election"
(37 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Arlen
said on 3/26/2007 @ 11:13 am PT...
Seems to be a slight error with the Palast link halfway down the post. Happy to see it published though!
{Ed. note: Link issue now fixed. --- DES}
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Floridiot
said on 3/26/2007 @ 11:43 am PT...
So, since Tim Grifter was already installed down in Arkansas, that automatically gave him an opening to look through all of Hillerys stuff, no?
So, even if he is ousted, the Pukes already have the scoop ?
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Savantster
said on 3/26/2007 @ 11:47 am PT...
Isn't it amazing? They first get hackable machines put in place to hold their choke hold on the people.. That works (after an initial court appointment to the Presidency by someone that wasn't actually elected) for a time, but when we see that "leaked early voting counts" aren't quite enough to finish gaming the election (something seems to have gone wrong despite all the under-votes and lost votes in Democratic areas since many seats went to Dems anyway in the last election), they then put in the "final word" people in to places they know they will have to blatantly steal next time.
Nice legal system we have here.. "and still the people sleep"..
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Brantl
said on 3/26/2007 @ 12:29 pm PT...
I've got to tell you, there are way too many political, unelected positions in governement for me. US attorneys should be elected or appointed by non-partisan judges.
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Roger
said on 3/26/2007 @ 2:32 pm PT...
The powers that be will never allow elections of attorneys. That would be relinquishing power and this administration is doing everything to accumulate it. ALL!
The best way out of this mess is impeachment and conviction. (Even if impeachment occurs, which I doubt, conviction will probably never happen.) The only other alternative is to keep the message going to as many as can be reached. The public has had it with these crooks and like last November, diligence and a strong showing by democrats and independents, yelling as they exit the voting booth "I did NOT vote republican!" is essential.
Keep up the good work Brad. It's patriots like you that have prevented a full blown dictatorship so far.
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oldturk
said on 3/26/2007 @ 2:59 pm PT...
Can't you just see KKarl rove's jack-boot/brown-shirt crony henchman Griffin rummaging through Hillary's and Bill's underwear draw and clawing thru their dirty laundry hamper,.. desperately looking for something to sabotage Hillary Clinton's 2008 Presidential ambitions.
This bu$$hCo is such a slimy crew. The day we get this fascist cartel out of Washington DC and force them to release their death grip on our government is the day we can start to repair our Democratic Republic.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 3/26/2007 @ 3:05 pm PT...
One of the DOJ officials set to testify before congress has indicated that she will "take the Fifth", and not answer on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate her.
If this were to happen to be coming from one of the looney white house officials, I would wonder. But since white house folk think we have a third world government and testimony before congress is like telling mommie a lie, I would be surprised if one of them thought of the Fifth. Also, they have never seen the constitution.
But this is coming from where the people are who know the law (DOJ career lawyers) work, so I am not surprised.
They now know that crimes have been committed, and therefore they are doing what such lawyers should do ... shut up because heads are going to roll.
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JEP
said on 3/26/2007 @ 3:08 pm PT...
"The implication was that if Republicans had a partisan prosecutor in Arkansas where the Clintons lived while Bill had served as governor during the 1980s, he would be able to drudge up old political dirt on the couple in time for the 2008 elections."
...or to create a lot of phony NEW dirt like those other fired attorneys refused to do...
They are going at it right now in Iowa, (and Rove included Iowa on his "hit list,") the US Attorney have been entrapping Democrats, even in light of these recent revelations, it is still an ongoing investigation, and it reeks of scheming.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 3/26/2007 @ 3:13 pm PT...
Arlen Parsa
I picked up on this last year.
Since you have finally put it out there officially, I shall discontinue my postings about it and see if another Fitz comes along for Fitzmas.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 3/26/2007 @ 3:22 pm PT...
Arlen: RE post #9
Focus on:
Before last year's election, I posted this:
The fact of the matter is that election felonies are being directed from the White House itself:
The fourth man indicted in a New Hampshire phone-jamming scheme --- in which Republican operatives jammed the phone lines of Democratic get-out-the-vote efforts in a 2002 Senate race --- will argue at trial that the Bush Administration and the national Republican Party gave their approval to the plan, according to a motion filed by his attorney Thursday.
(Raw Story, bold added).
I tend to distrust this white house in the sense that I have the faith that everything they do is criminal in nature because they are criminal in nature.
You know, its the old adage: "you can take the boy out of the crime family's state, but you can't take the state of crime out of the boy".
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 3/26/2007 @ 3:46 pm PT...
RE: post #7
I am unable to get past the name MONICA GOODLING. It sounds like the Hobbit version of Monica Lewinski.
She is the Spokesperson For DOJ who is taking the Fifth so she will not be incriminated.
Remember "Dusty Foggo", the CIA third in power, hired by the CIA Director and congressman Gop Hack (just kidding his name escapes me right now ... but I know it wasn't Six Fingers), who Bush sent over to clean up the CIA?
And Snottie and Show Job and Scooter and Freedo and Pootie Poo and Turd Blossom ...
Oh well ... could these all be clones or merely someones imagination in a bad novel? Jim Webb must be freaking cracking up about now.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 3/26/2007 @ 3:55 pm PT...
"plagiarism is intellectual theft ... which is a form of intellectual dishonesty"
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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CharlieL
said on 3/26/2007 @ 4:40 pm PT...
Monica is just angling for immunity. Lawyers aren't THAT stupid as to roll on their bosses and not have a safety net.
She'll get immunity and testify before Alberto does, that's why they've pushed his date so far out, and also to give him more time to shred.
Her only danger is that if she screws up and lies after immunity, they can take it away and prosecute her. And if she "forgets" too much, they can hold her in contempt (I already do hold ALL of them in comtempt, but that's another story) for the duration of their term.
Personally, I think hanging is too mercifull for these Rethuglican hacks and criminals.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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molly
said on 3/26/2007 @ 4:56 pm PT...
Bangor News ..March 22. James Tobin of Bangor found guilty 15 months ago of conspiring to make 800 repeated hang up calls for about an hour to a phone bank...Tobin was sentenced to 10 months in federal prison ...He has been free on bail pending the outcome of his appeal.Federal appeals court reversed the conviction....The day before the Bangor News wrote "was this case put off until after the election?" The next day..Mar 22.. Bangor News says federal appeals court reversed the decision. Scandalous. I think Tobin works for Susan Collins but I'm not sure.It's worth looking into Mainers.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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RF
said on 3/26/2007 @ 5:01 pm PT...
Well, well, the Cheesehead colours are finally GONE!
I would comment more, but I got lots of reading to do, now that I can see the text!
Thanx to whomever finally knocked the dominos over, I always liked this place but the paint was ATROCIOUS!
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 3/26/2007 @ 5:39 pm PT...
Is there anything the bush regime Hasn't LIED About . . .
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JUDGE OF JUDGES
said on 3/26/2007 @ 7:19 pm PT...
Mike Malloy just gave this story a big plug !
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Vic Anderson
said on 3/26/2007 @ 8:26 pm PT...
To have scrwed or Not to have screwed? THAT is the question! Time to move this scandal inside the "gate" into the "AG in court", instead.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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big dan
said on 3/26/2007 @ 8:58 pm PT...
In the news on Free Speech TV, they said that the Italians and Mexicans are looking into Rove connections in vote fraud in their elections.
http://www.exmearden.dai...nly/2007/3/19/182854/322
SOOOOOOOOOO..............
...is it a stretch that ROVE STOLE 2 ELECTIONS FOR BUSH?????????????? IN OUR COUNTRY????????????
How come WE'VE been saying this for years, and statistics have proven it...BUT IT TAKES OTHER COUNTRIES TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT ROVE AND THE GOP'S ELECTION FRAUD??????????????
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Linda
said on 3/26/2007 @ 9:03 pm PT...
When I first heard of these attorney firings, I wrote Sen. Feinstein and told her I believed the repubs were doing this to position their operatives to steal yet another presidential election. At the time I wrote that letter, I was thinking "I'm probably the only person in America who thinks this, but what the heck. I'm going to go with my gut on this one." Since then, Feinstein is on to it, and now this article. Glad to read I have some friends in this thinking.
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Rob
said on 3/27/2007 @ 3:34 am PT...
But the real bombshell came near the end of the interview....
Cummins told Matthews before going on the air that he had heard a "conspiracy theory"
But of course he had no Pryor knowledge...
Thanks for the article, your focus on electoral fraud is a great public service.
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 3/27/2007 @ 5:17 am PT...
I am glad we are all on the case and aware of what the neoCon criminals are trying to do to america. Good for us.
Henry Waxman has been all over this:
"White House officials have used nongovernmental e-mail accounts, including those maintained by the RNC, to conduct official White House business," Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) wrote in letters delivered today, copies of which were sent to RAW STORY. "The Committee has questions about who has access to these e-mail records and how the RNC protects them from destruction and tampering."
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Waxman also noted that according to the terms of the Presidential Records Act of 1978, "Such e-mails written in the conduct of White House business would appear to be governmental records subject to preservation and eventual public disclosure."
(Raw Story, emphasis added).
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 3/27/2007 @ 6:03 am PT...
Okay, I'm not a computor specialist by a long shot, but can anyone who is answer this question for me?
If the RNC accounts are purged before Waxman can get their emails would the phone line systems like verizon, at&t, ect. have a copy? If so shouldn't Waxman ask for a FISA order to get them?
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 3/27/2007 @ 6:47 am PT...
And while they're at it wouldn't it be interesting to see what Cheney's, Rumsfeld's, Wolfowitz's, AIPAC's, Hallibuton's and the rest of the cabal's emails looked like just prior to 9/11 ?
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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youngharry
said on 3/27/2007 @ 8:12 am PT...
This is also the reason the Chicago Tribune sent Jeff Johnson to take over the LA Times. The Times endorsement of Bruce McPherson to be Sec of
State, to game the voting machines in California in 2008. Their hopes were to have a California Katherine Harris of 2000 and a Ken Blackwell of 2004 running the election in California. Their plan is massive and they are leaving no stone unturned to win in 08.
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Anastasia P
said on 3/27/2007 @ 8:36 am PT...
I should add, youngharry,that the Republicans were in my opinion scheming to replace Ken Blackwell in Ohio with someone even worse for 2008. This past year they put up for Secretary of State one Greg Hartmann, a carpetbagger from Texas who had exactly no elections experience, said in a forum here in Cleveland that he believes all voting machines are totally safe and also that it was impossible for anything to have been wrong in the 2004 election because all the BoEs have two Republicans and two Democrat. This Mr. Hartmann appeared in Ohio about eight years ago, almost instantly winning a series of politically appointed jobs including executive director of the Hamilton County Republican Party. In his last job, Hamilton County Clerk of Courts, he proved as inept as in all his previous jobs, posting personal information of citizens on his website and creating dozens of cases of identity theft. A ne'er-do-well, rich frat boy from Texas (sound familiar), he is the son of Dick Cheney's lawyer. Set up? You decide.
(Luckily, he lost- badly. He was such a bad candidate he didn't get the endorsment of a single major daily in Ohio, and the major dailies here are mostly Republican shills)
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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rabblerowzer
said on 3/27/2007 @ 9:04 am PT...
Does anyone seriously doubt that Republicans would hesitate to illegally influence the 2008 vote to rig another election?
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Lyleblog
said on 3/27/2007 @ 9:35 am PT...
Brad
It appears more and more that the epicenter of this still locates on Arlen Specter and his willingness to accept the overseer/nursemaid from the OutHouse. If he had not been negligent in his duties as chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee, he would not have aquiessed to Tolvan(?) writing and inserting legislation into the Hatriot Act Renewal. The emails, as posted by McClatchy, show he was instructed as to how to strike and insert the desired language into the bill. Specter, being the poorly equipped, mental midget that he is, wanted the Chairmanship of the Committee so bad that he sold his soul and, what little integrity he had, to remain Arlen Specter (R-OutHouse). He should have recused himself, or at best, resigned by now. All he will do now is obstruct and obfuscate the proceedings to protect Turd Blossom.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Savantster
said on 3/27/2007 @ 1:04 pm PT...
The emails are only preserved on the mail server and PCs.. (in general).. That is, if the Government's "mail server" (or, in this case, the RNC's mail server holding official government mails but not under full governmental control) was "purged", there would only be the local copies left.. if those were deleted (properly), there would be no record of the mails (though, there are 2 parts to the mail server, incoming and outgoing.. but there could be many outgoing servers involved.. in fact, any ISP that sent the mail).
ISPs don't keep copies of data transmitted over their lines (the actual mail gets broken up during transport in to several chunks, then put together and stored on the receiving server), there's just way too much data. The "sending ISP" -might- have a copy of mails it sends, but you'd have no way to know which (of the 10s of thousands) outgoing mail server it started from (without the actual mail, that is). Hence, the Government runs their own servers to keep track of this stuff.. when officials (illegally, it seems) use services outside of those official means, we have no way to track down what we need (which is why criminals would use unofficial means).
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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whodid
said on 3/27/2007 @ 3:04 pm PT...
There needs to be substantial research on appointments to the bench, also. Florida's 1st district has been "reliably Republican" for as long as I can remember, but Jeff Miller faced a determined opponent, Joe Roberts, in '06 for the districts' house rep and Roberts plans to run again in '08. It's rumoured that the Republicans are planning to run a stronger candidate against Roberts in '08. But not to worry..remember Florida's Director of Elections, Clay Roberts? Yeah, the guy who stormed out of the room while being interviewed by Palast. Clay Roberts now sits on the bench at Florida's First District Court of Appeals. Ole Jeb even asked if he could appoint Clay Roberts before Judge Erwin's term expired!
http://abstractappeal.co....html#115952996644406251
Abstract Appeal --- by Matt Conigliaro
Clay Roberts will be an "activist" jusge, as planned.
http://archive.salon.com...ture/2001/08/04/florida/
Salon.com Politics | Is Katherine Harris' office resisting Florida election reforms?
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Ancient
said on 3/27/2007 @ 6:39 pm PT...
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Savantster!
Now that we know that lil nugget, I dare say time to watch those PCs.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 3/27/2007 @ 6:50 pm PT...
Or maybe new LAWS for Whitehouse services!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 3/27/2007 @ 7:14 pm PT...
And when it comes to the White house...
HE'S AGAINST THE PEOPLE"S
WILL
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Hello Arlen!
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 3/27/2007 @ 7:29 pm PT...
Ya know if they're trying to make this a
BIG BROTHER SOCIETY
WE CAN PLAY TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Dianna
said on 3/27/2007 @ 9:31 pm PT...
I think the term is "dredge up" not "drudge up." Just for future
reference
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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The Oracle
said on 3/27/2007 @ 10:36 pm PT...
If Democrats are being accused of "voter fraud" then Republicans should be accused of "sanity fraud" because everyone knows by now (especially after all the craziness of the Bush administration) that any claims to sanity by Republicans is definitely fraudulent.
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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bardicfool
said on 3/28/2007 @ 9:59 am PT...
If it can be proven that Rove, et al, used RNC email instead of US Gov. email for some communications, then we have an indictable offence against any and all White House officials who used those systems, as a direct violation of existing Federal laws.
The question will be whether or not any US Attorney or Congress will be able to get a grand jury indictment on them.
We need to keep reminding Pelosi and company that they must impeach Bush and Cheney, right now, both of them at once so Cheney can't appoint a new VP to shield the White House from Pelosi taking the Presidency when Bush is ousted.