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"Wingnuts Desperately Spinning U.S. Attorney Firings into Unsubstantiated 'Voter Fraud' Allegations"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Floridiot
said on 3/13/2007 @ 12:53 pm PT...
Where's the mighty "Thor" Hearne of the ACVR on all of this, he should have his panties in a bunch over this...oh, I forgot the ACVR was made just for disenfranchising the poor, I remember now
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ewastud
said on 3/13/2007 @ 2:18 pm PT...
Just what is the present status of Ann Coulter's alleged voter registration fraud in Florida? Is the prosecutor doing his/her job on that one?
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Off the Grid
said on 3/13/2007 @ 4:09 pm PT...
ASPO ...IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOU BETTER ASK SOMEBODY...because Fascism, 9/11, stolen elections, Bush, Patriot Act, and our institutionalized ignorance has a goal.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Off the Grid
said on 3/13/2007 @ 4:12 pm PT...
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 3/13/2007 @ 10:37 pm PT...
David Frum couldn't sign the PNAC document because he's actually a hologram. Despite that, I wish he had been on Bill Maher's show with Rosanne last week.
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big dan
said on 3/14/2007 @ 5:43 am PT...
Larry: I like Roseann after seeing her on Bill Maher.
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oldturk
said on 3/14/2007 @ 9:34 am PT...
Playing politics with US Attorneys,.. KKKarl Rove style,..
another one surfaces,.. Washington state,..the chair of the Republican Party, confers with KKKarl Rove, they decide the US Attorney John McKay should open a federal case about Democratic Party voter fraud in a highly contentious governors race. The Us Attorney did not respond fast enough to prosecute Democrats so US Attorney McKay was fired.
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Former Washington state Republican Party Chairman Chris Vance acknowledged Tuesday that he contacted then-U.S. Attorney John McKay to inquire about the status of federal investigations into the 2004 governor's race while the outcome was still in dispute.
Vance also spoke regularly with presidential adviser Karl Rove's aides about the election, which Democrat Christine Gregoire ultimately won by 129 votes over Republican Dino Rossi. But Vance said he doesn't recall discussing with the White House McKay's performance or Republicans' desires for a formal federal investigation.
Vance's revelations come as Congress continues investigating whether the firings of McKay and seven other U.S. attorneys by the Bush administration were politically motivated.
Source/link,..
http://seattletimes.nwso...2003616950_mckay14m.html
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 3/14/2007 @ 11:32 am PT...
How did the selection of US Attorneys become contaminated by the filthy politics of KKKarl Rove ?
Bu$$h/KKKarl Rove/Gonzales/Tom Delay/and Jack Abramoff had trouble with a US Attorney on the island of Guam. This US Attorney was opening investigations that were inconvenient and could prove embarrassing for Bu$$hco/Delay/Abramoff. Gonzales/Rove were brought in to quickly remedied the problem by demoting the US Attorney,(Black) stripping him of authority to pursue the investigation. Hired a new US Attorney loyal to Bushco and put the matter to rest.
Having been so successful to protect Bu$$hco/Abramoff from oversight/review/potential prosecution by dumping the inquisitive US Attorney in Guam, Rove/Gonzales figured with the coming election and future elections why could they not use the US Attorneys offices as a weapon against the Democratic Party.
What they needed to do was to terminate any/all US Attorneys who might even consider a filing a case against a Republican office holder or party operative. No more prosecutions of Republicans would any longer be tolerated/permitted. Step two was to weed out non loyal/compliant US Attorneys who proved not eager to do bu$$hco's bidding. Clean house if you will and install robotic party hacks who would eagerly march to the drums of Rove/Gonzales fascist political agendas.
The weeding out/dumping process by bu$$hco (rove/gonzales) of non compliant US Attorneys. Harriet Miers, chimperors in house attorney, and his supreme friend came up with the idea to fire all US Attorneys who were reluctant to do bu$$hco's bidding and replace them with more compliant ones. Her style was to clean house with the white tornado method, crash/bang/boom - clean sweep. If she had her way she was about to do a major clean house and fire a majority of US Attorneys in one felled swoop. But bu$$hco (rove/gonzales) wanted to makes the switch to weed out the non-loyal attorneys a little more quietly. it would be far more to their advantage to make the switch more stealthly and under the radar - without public scrutiny or attention.
Revamp the process of selecting US Attorneys - under the radar approach. With the specific goal to maintain a grip on power for the Republican Party, shutdown any/all/every Republican criminal prosecution and step up those of Democrats.
The executive (rove) needed a man in the legislative (senate) with pen in hand on standby waiting for the go signal from the White House to change the law that permitted the executive (bu$$h/rove/gonzales) to change the law/rules for the procedure that selected US Attorneys.
Enter rove man MIKE O'NEILL, a former court clerk for Clarance Thomas. Mike O'Neill has a fresh pen given to him by KKKarl, now where do you place O'Neill on the political chessboard ? By means of deceit and stealth he can serendipitiously change the rules/laws to give more power to the executive. So that the unitary executive (despot/dictator) can bypass the previously required authorization/approvals of the legislative branch before the executive branch can seat/select replacement US Attorney. What the unitary executive wanted was to wave his political wand (royal staff) and upon political considerations switch and change US Attorneys upon political whims.
Mike O'Neill was placed in the office of Arlen Spector. Spector had to prove loyalty to bu$$hco so hiring O'Neill was a political concession to KKKarl rove by Spector to allow placement of O'Neill in Spectors office. When nobody was looking, peoples attentions were diverted elsewhere Mike O'Neill upon the instructions of rove/gonzales, took out his magic pen during the rewrite of the Patriot Act, secretly added/included the new rule allowing the changing/terminating/hiring of US Attorneys without/beyond any review by the US Congress. Spector as the chair of the Judiciary, his clerk wrote up the final draft of the new Patriot Act Bill, secretly included the US Attorney hiring Congress review bypass provision with nobodies knowledge. O'Neill even pulled a fast one on Spector ,he had no knowledge of this unauthorized "rule change". The "Revised" Patriot Act Bill was voted on BUT NOT READ BY ANYONE, this Bill passed The "Revised Patriot Act" passed the vote, and was immediately signed into law by bu$$h (without a signing statement or revision). Down the road with the new "UNITARY EXECUTIVE POWERS" rove/gonzales started to shit can non-loyal,.. non compliant,.. bu$$hco hit/henchmen to start to do the political dirty work and marching to the beat of the drum of KKKarl Rove.
US Attorney in Quam politically terminated from employment,..
http://www.democrats.org...5/08/the_white_house.php
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US Attorney from Arkansas terminated and replaced by KKarl Rove henchman who perpetrated a crime from KKKarl Rove by intentionally violating the Voter Civil Rights Laws of 1965, in the State of Florida and the State of Ohio.
http://www.gregpalast.co...ey-a-criminal/#more-1586
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http://www.nonesoblind.org/blog/?p=458
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002487.php
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002489.php
http://www.realcities.co...rwashington/16683949.htm
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Bluebear2
said on 3/14/2007 @ 12:22 pm PT...
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Michael Slater
said on 3/14/2007 @ 1:44 pm PT...
You're posting is right on target. By sure coincedence, we released a thorough, academic report, "The Politics of Voter Fraud" (www.projectvote.org/report), last Tuesday that examines claims of fraudulent voting. The report finds that most are either errors by voters and election officials or mischief and that real instances of fraudulent voting are few and far between. But, claims of voter fraud are often manufactured or exaggerated by groups seeking partisan gain, usually to justify procedures or policies that make voting more difficult for minorities.
It's telling that the Administration would rather fire US Attorneys who conducted thorough, fair investigations into claims of fraudulent voting in New Mexico and Washington rather than accept the fact that there's no effort afoot to corrupt the voting process. (Yesterday's Seattle Times has a story that details McKay's thorough investigation into claims of voter fraud stemming from the 2004 Washington governor's race.)
The well-documented danger to voting is not fraud but bad policies like voter ID and proof of ctizenship requirements.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 3/14/2007 @ 4:52 pm PT...
White House documents and e-mails subpoenaed for Congressioal hearings seem to indicate that bu$$hco based the firings of the US Attorneys for political considerations rather than professional shortcomings as they would like to contend.
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The documents show that in one case, officials were eager to free up the prosecutor's slot in Little Rock, Ark., so it could be filled by Timothy Griffin, a GOP operative close to White House political guru Karl Rove - at all costs.
"We should gum this to death," Sampson e-mailed Monica Goodling, the Justice Department's liaison to the White House. He said officials should talk up Griffin's appointment and try to "forestall" any criticism from Capitol Hill. Just "run out the clock" on any objections, he said.
Elsewhere, the documents describe the office of Sen. Pete Domenici, R-N.M., who was pushing for the removal of the prosecutor in Albuquerque, as "happy as a clam" that David C. Iglesias was fired.
But the material also noted that in Nevada, where U.S. Attorney Daniel Bogden of Las Vegas was forced out, Republican Sen. John Ensign was "very unhappy" about the ouster, "very unhappy about its timing, and didn't understand the urgency."
It also made clear that in San Diego, U.S. Attorney Carol Lam was fired for not being tougher on illegal immigration. Sampson told Kelley that Justice had a "real problem" with Lam. He later asked William Mercer, the acting associate attorney general, whether officials "ever called Carol Lam and woodshedded her re immigration enforcement."
The disclosure of Sampson's aggressive role in the episodes came as Gonzales announced on Tuesday that he was stepping down as chief of staff. Sampson had worked for Gonzales both at the White House and in the attorney general's office.
Source/link,..
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/031407K.shtml
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Larry Bergan
said on 3/15/2007 @ 12:25 am PT...
D. Kyle Sampson is a local boy who graduated from a religious university, (Brigham Young University), and was a counsel to Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
So he couldn't have done anything wrong. And he doesn't even look like "Scooter."
OK, I was being a little sarcastic.
Boy, when Waxman opens a can of worms, they are night crawlers.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 3/15/2007 @ 8:06 am PT...
The important thing to remember on the Gonzo issue is that the administration was avoiding any Congressional oversight by USING THE EMERGENCY POWERS to replace attorneys general WHEN NECESSARY in the Patriot Act for POLITICAL PURPOSES. Yes, W had the right to fire AGs, even though this rarely, rarely happens EXCEPT AT THE BEGINNING OF A NEW ADMINISTRATION. This is yet another example of the abuse of executive power in the name of national security to undermine the Legislative and Judicial powers vested by our Constitution to balance the threat of an imperial presidency. This is why it stinks to high heaven. This is a high crime and at the very least misdemeanor because of the lies told to Congress. Watch, they'll be more! Gotta love e-mail. It keeps track of those high crimes and misdemeanors!
Deb Givens, Esq.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 3/15/2007 @ 10:14 am PT...
Time mag has an article and a front page pic with the late President Reagan crying.
He is said to be crying about "How the Right Went Wrong" ... but I think the real and true story is "How The Wrong Went Right To The Republican Party" and pulled them down.
Republicans are vulnerable to fascist arguments for some reason ...
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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oldturk
said on 3/15/2007 @ 1:57 pm PT...
More documents and e-mails prove lies were told,..
Gonzales and others in the DoJ caught lying to Congress went questioned about replacing US Attorneys,..
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In testimony on Jan. 18, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales assured the Senate Judiciary Committee that the Justice Department had no intention of avoiding Senate input on the hiring of U.S. attorneys.
Just a month earlier, D. Kyle Sampson, who was then Gonzales's chief of staff, laid out a plan to do just that. In an e-mail, he detailed a strategy for evading Arkansas Democrats in installing Tim Griffin, a former GOP operative and protege of presidential adviser Karl Rove, as the U.S. attorney in Little Rock.
In testimony on Jan. 18, Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales assured the Senate Judiciary Committee that the Justice Department had no intention of avoiding Senate input on the hiring of U.S. attorneys.
Just a month earlier, D. Kyle Sampson, who was then Gonzales's chief of staff, laid out a plan to do just that. In an e-mail, he detailed a strategy for evading Arkansas Democrats in installing Tim Griffin, a former GOP operative and protege of presidential adviser Karl Rove, as the U.S. attorney in Little Rock.
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The inconsistencies between Justice's positions and the documents are numerous. On Feb. 23, for example, a Justice legislative affairs aide wrote to Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) that the department "was not aware of Karl Rove playing any role in the decision to appoint Mr. Griffin." But internal Justice e-mails show that "getting him appointed is important" to Rove and was closely monitored by political aides in the White House.
Last week, senior Justice official William E. Moschella told a House Judiciary subcommittee that the White House was not consulted on the firings until the end of the process.
But the documents released this week show that the plan began more than two years ago at the White House counsel's office, which initially suggested firing all 93 U.S. attorneys. Gonzales rejected that idea, and Sampson wrote back in January 2006 that Justice and the White House should "work together to seek the replacement of a limited number of U.S. Attorneys."
Schumer argued this week that Sampson "may well have obstructed justice" by not disclosing his communications to Congress and other senior Justice officials, who had said for weeks that the White House had only a limited role in the removals. "There has been misleading statement after misleading statement, and these have been deliberately misleading statements," Schumer said yesterday.
The National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers also called yesterday for investigations by Congress and a special prosecutor looking at "whether any official has testified falsely in violation of federal perjury and obstruction of justice statutes."
Source/link,..
http://www.washingtonpos.../14/AR2007031400519.html