READER COMMENTS ON
"PA County Sues Voting Machine Company After Votes Lost in '04 Presidential Election"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
said on 5/19/2006 @ 9:57 pm PT...
Good thing you're on top of it, Brad, important or not. And I'll be contacting PayPal first thing tomorrow. Your interview with Martini and co. reminded me of an overdue obligation.
Thanks for all you do!!!
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
said on 5/19/2006 @ 10:18 pm PT...
From your post on 11-4-04:
"Since Democracy demands both vigilance and an accurate reflection of the will of the people, I will do my best to stay on top of these matters as so many of your Emails have requested of me."
I am so happy that you have persisted in your vision and integrity!
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 1:08 am PT...
Sorry all! Maybe voters will come to the conclusion that paper ballots are the best way to go and less expensive!!
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 4:18 am PT...
This should have a flasher on it for sure
Every State should be suing the Republican party for about 9 trillion dollars, that will be about what they've bilked the Federal taxpayers out of by the time we're done fixing their mess
Hopefully this is a new trend that gets some legs
Like "The Boner" tying up all McDermott's money for a payback, that story really pisses me off
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 6:00 am PT...
That is something often missed ... the machines were intended to make elections less expensive.
That has not panned out.
It is less expensive and more reliable to have hand counts and recounts.
And there is no way to calculate the loss of election integrity, never knowing who won simply by official declarations of who won ... which are at odds with the exit polls.
Freedom can't be expressed in monitary terms like elections can.
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 6:22 am PT...
Just look at what the state of the art has cost us in terms of being totally fucked in many, many ways, in the US and around thw world too, from - oh well, what's the use? Where would I start? Where would I end. Totally is, like, totally totally...
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 6:29 am PT...
The Boner v McDermott lawsuit has been in the courts for years, having gone all the way to the US Supreme court, and back.
Here is one decision in that case which held that Florida law did not apply (link here).
I had wondered why Boner had a tic, and your link indicates that he was a plastic man before becoming a member of congress. That explains a lot.
Boner obviously does not like leaks that go against him, but would welcome leaks that did not.
Boner is a strong member of the republican dictatorship destroying this nation as well as other nations of the world.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 6:44 am PT...
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 10:53 am PT...
More fallout from the recent primary in Pittsburgh (Allegheny County):
A continuing review of Tuesday's election results has turned up numerous discrepancies in vote tallies in the 24th Legislative District, placing a question mark over the initial report that Rep. Joseph Preston won a narrow victory over his Democratic challenger, Ed Gainey.
Unofficial results from the district had shown the veteran incumbent with a 96-vote advantage over Mr. Gainey for the nomination. A third candidate, William Anderson, was far behind. But a look back at the returns suggested that many votes in the district may not have been counted in that first, unofficial tally.
"A lot of people went out to vote and their votes weren't counted, and that's a concern,'' Mr. Gainey said yesterday, at the end of hours of double-checking the figures.
Under the scrutiny of lawyers for both Mr. Preston and Mr. Gainey, elections officials spent the day yesterday in a precinct-by-precinct review of vote tallies. By the end of the day they had looked at roughly two-thirds of the voting district. In the vast majority of precincts, there was at least some discrepancy between the list of voters who signed the rolls and the numbers of ballots reported cast in that district.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 11:01 am PT...
When I here "we're aware of no action that has ever been taken by the state of OH to investigate what might have happened and whether or not votes were similarly lost" and I know that the machines are mass produced, and every county that has one has the same thing, I can only think of "The Silence of The Goats".
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 11:05 am PT...
... oops "when I here" should be "when I hear" ... typo el braino
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 12:51 pm PT...
Maybe suing is the only thing neocons understand, since morals, difference between right and wrong, rigging machines, etc. don't work!
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 2:49 pm PT...
Oh my God, this is the biggest cry baby BS I ever heard of. If you really want to see how DEMONRATS use the OLD machines to steal elections, just take a look at the Washington State Governor Election in 2004.
It's no wonder you guys want to get rid of the diebold machines Brad. You want hanging chads and paper ballots that can be added as it was in King County Washington, where 20,000 ballots were added to the mix that had no voter attached whatsoever. There were 2000 voters registered to the same building in downtown Seattle, which was a commercial building, and no one lived there LOL. You guys are pathetic.
Its also funny how YOU guys are the one's who supposedly know how to corrupt these diebold machines, which work just fine unless someone knows all the details on just how to flip them, which would be hard to do with one person going to each machine and spending 10 minutes with it.
Admit it Brad, without paper ballots and hanging chads, the elections become more fair and you guys can't call for recount after recount after recount until your guy wins (tried it with GORE and lost, tried it in Seattle with Gregoire and finally won thanks to King County and them finding 200 votes under this machine, 500 in this closet etc...until she won.) Those tactics wont work anymore will they Brad? Boo hoo. This diebold issue is not picked up by anyone but you hard core left wing progressives because there is no validity to what you say. Sure there can be a "Possibility" of screwing with the software on the machine, but you can screw with any medium of counting votes. Besides, putting on new software would show up on the machine for one thing, and 2, they dont update that fast or that easily. Someone would be caught doing it very very easily.
Also, as for Ann Coulter voting in her real estate agents address, SO WHAT dude? She still only voted once. You cry babies get all riled up when you think ONE person may have voted republican in a wrong manner, yet we had 200 dead people voting up here by absentee ballot, filled out by their significant others. We even had thousands of Felon's voting, and when taken to court, these felons of course claimed they voted for republicans LOL, so they took votes away from republicans, how quaint.
Stop being such a cry baby Brad. Grow up dude. The diebold machines may be able to be manipulated, but every form of voting can be manipulated, your election staffs just cant spend the night before filling out blank ballots the night before an election using diebold machines. Ever heard of the saying that "I think thou dost protest to much"? You liberals are such whining cry babies, you can't face reality. :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :O :crazy: :laugh:
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 4:21 pm PT...
#13 Pat Ferrell
Please provide us your citations for:
1) ůpaper ballots that can be added as it was in King County Washington, where 20,000 ballots were added to the mix that had no voter attached whatsoever.
2) There were 2000 voters registered to the same building in downtown Seattle, which was a commercial building, and no one lived there LOL.
3) ůwe had 200 dead people voting up here by absentee ballot, filled out by their significant others.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
said on 5/20/2006 @ 6:25 pm PT...
#13 Pat Ferrell
Citations, please, also for:
We even had thousands of Felon's voting, and when taken to court, these felons of course claimed they voted for republicans LOL, so they took votes away from republicans, how quaint.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
said on 5/21/2006 @ 6:36 am PT...
Pat Ferrel #13
You qualify for a troll stroke but nothing more in terms of a reply.
We are patriots who like fair, open, and honest elections conducted by bipartisan or nonpartisan election officials.
Stop reading the republican dictatorship's number one comic book: "KKKarl and Jeffie Gannon DOO It In Kool Aid", and wake up and smell your polls.
Like your crazed, lie ridden, and tired rants against all decency, your dictatorship will fade into infamy.
After about ten years of having it rubbed deep into your wolf-like nostrils.