READER COMMENTS ON
"Two Ohio Election Officials Indicted for 2004 Election Recount Conduct!"
(36 Responses so far...)
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Floridiot
said on 8/31/2005 @ 10:01 am PT...
Kinda reminds me of a guy trying to drop a skyscaper with a claw hammer, maybe if we get the right columns
it will come down quicker? , hope so
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Kelly
said on 8/31/2005 @ 10:21 am PT...
This is good news! My only question is, these two are pretty small potatoes, will this start a domino effect that will reach the higher ups?
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Slicer
said on 8/31/2005 @ 10:46 am PT...
Good catch Brad!
Amazing that with all you have been doing the last two weeks in Crawford, you did not overlook this gem.
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KestrelBrighteyes
said on 8/31/2005 @ 11:04 am PT...
I wonder if they're starting at the bottom and working their way up, hoping that each "rung" of the fraud ladder will turn over on higher ups to reduce or avoid punishment - sort of like the investigations surrounding Tom Delay.
Let's hope this is only the beginning - and that somewhere near the top sits Blackwell, Rove, and eventually BUSH!
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Doug Eldritch
said on 8/31/2005 @ 11:05 am PT...
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MrBlueSky
said on 8/31/2005 @ 11:16 am PT...
Kelly you are exactly right.
Assuming the neocons haven't contacted her and paid her off (or threatened her) to be their fall girl, hopefully she'll sing like a canary to the judge at her day in court.
Secretary Blackwell, we be a-comin' for you (with pitchforks and torches!)
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Jeff
said on 8/31/2005 @ 11:24 am PT...
Now the media truely has an excuse for not covering this story (Katrina). Maybe when things settle down and if any convictions are made...
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MarkH
said on 8/31/2005 @ 12:21 pm PT...
When I try to post this to the story about New Orleans it just "times out", so it can't get posted. But, for some reason, this topic seems to let me post. sorry for the slight OT.
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"small government" Republicans should stand up proudly and say to New Orleans, "We don't care!"
If they don't (and I don't expect it) they should repudiate their entire ideology and LEARN that Roosevelt was right when he decided the appropriate size for government was that which gets the job done, as the Constitution says, "in order to form a More Perfect Union", not in order to enrich a few friends.
Then someone should smack Georgie Boy Dictator upside the head and tell him to get our troops out of Iraq and cut the size of our military to the size that's needed, probably about 1/3 of it's current size. [ Note: we currently spend as much as the rest of the world combined on the military. ]
That way we'd have the resources to take care of disasters like this in New Orleans and Mississippi and to begin making long-term course changes which would reduce green-house gases and energy dependence on foreigners.
What does it have to cost Southerners to begin to realize Bush & co. don't give a shit about them?
Not too long ago, probably on the WashingtonMonthly.com's blog, I argued that perhaps the Southern Republican's wish that government should be smaller should be granted and all their interstate highways and other federal government benefits should be ripped out. Well, now they're facing that sad situation and where's Bush? He's taking one last day of vacation rather than doing anything. Where's the compassion? Can anyone imagine Bill Clinton would have let that disaster go for one second without responding? Would Al Gore or John Kerry have gone on vacation and let New Orleans float away? Fuggetaboutit! No, it's just the Crazies who have oil on the brain, Bush & Co. who "Just don't care!"
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 8/31/2005 @ 12:34 pm PT...
Cindy Sheehan: Why My Son Died!
"August 31, 2005
Day 25
The Peaceful Occupation of Crawford
"If Zarqawi and bin Laden gain control of Iraq, they would create a new training ground for future terrorist attacks," Bush said. "They'd seize oil fields to fund their ambitions. They could recruit more terrorists by claiming a historic victory over the United States and our coalition."(George Bush, August 30, 2005 in San Diego.)
So it is official, Casey had his blood shed in Iraq for OIL. He died so we could pay over 3.00/gallon for gas. Like I suspected all along, my dear, sweet son: almost 1900 others; and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis died so the oil fields wouldn't "fall into the hands of terrorists" and so George and his immoral band of greedy robber barons could become wealthier. Like I have said all along: how can these people sleep at night and how can they choke down their food knowing it is purchased off of the flesh and blood of others? We have found our "Noble Cause." And it is OIL. This man and his handlers need to be stopped.
Well, George and I are leaving Crawford today. George is finished playing golf and telling his fables in San Diego , so he will be heading to Louisiana to see the devastation that his environmental policies and his killing policies have caused. Recovery would be easier and much quicker if almost half of the three states involved National Guard were not in Iraq. All of the National Guard's equipment is in Iraq also. Plus, with the 2 billion dollars a week that the private contractors are siphoning from our treasury, how are we going to pay for helping our own citizens in Louisiana , Mississippi, and Alabama? And, should I dare say "global warming?" and be branded as a "conspiracy theorist" on top of everything else the reich-wingers say about me.
We will take our country back. And it will be a country that we want back.
God Bless America!!!!"
The WAR TRUTH!
It's true Cindy but don't you worry, everyone is watching and they are being punished for it.
As the downing street memos prove and Bush now admits we did destroy the entire regions for oil, but it will not be a lost cause. We will use the proof and impeach these criminal assholes then incarcerate them, I swear it.
And we will also impeach them all for laughing and not doing everything to prevent the Hurricaine disasters brought on by Global Warming, your message now rings strong and true within each and every one of us!!!!
Thank you Cindy Sheehan for your brave soul, we will go and march and together we will win over the tyranny!
Doug E.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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superwoman
said on 8/31/2005 @ 2:34 pm PT...
Sherole Eaton had surgery today for a brain aneurism, and her daughter is in bad shape... same affliction.
The mind boggles.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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KestrelBrighteyes
said on 8/31/2005 @ 2:47 pm PT...
Superwoman re:#10 - Bless their hearts.
Thanks for the info. Is there a URL where we can keep updated on her condition?
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Kraig
said on 8/31/2005 @ 2:50 pm PT...
In a free country this would call into question the results of the 2004 "election". Especially when one considers the open racist disenfranchisement measures undertaken by the Republifascists in predominantly black (and thus they figured, Democrat-leaning) areas like having "vote challengers" there and spreading fliers with rumors that anyone with an outstanding parking ticket, etc. that showed up to vote would be arrested. Kinda makes it sound like a third-world country, doesn't it?
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Shannon Williford
said on 8/31/2005 @ 3:40 pm PT...
Doug E, #9
I'm against Dubya as much as the next guy, and I have, at this count, 3 family houses (perhaps 4, we haven't heard...) lost in Katrina; but I think it doesn't serve our purpose to appear to blame Bush for something like this disaster. I agree that global warming has caused the increase in number of hurricanes over the last ten years, but I don't think that President Gore, having signed the Kyoto accords, would have been able to do much to slow down the situation as it is now. What we could have looked forward to (under Gore) was a better world for our kids and grandkids than we now foresee. Perhaps our next prez can turn it around, if not hampered by a packed Bush Supreme Court....
Still, my point is, if we blame Bush for things that really aren't his fault, we risk appearing to have a such a partisan outlook that we will not be heard on the many things that Dubya does screw up...
Like fair elections. And not tax rich folks. And protecting the Artic National Refuge. Oh, and lying to get into a war. And lying about it again. And again. And again. And putting our country near bankruptcy. And on and on and on and on and...
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Shannon Williford
said on 8/31/2005 @ 3:47 pm PT...
Do y'all think that every now and then someone of integrity shows up and messes with their evil plans? Like this prosicuter, Baxter? Or Fitzgerald, who's on the Plame case? I sure hope so. I tend to be so paranoid that I fear they've bought and paid for so many that they can do what they want...
do the right thing, somebody...
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texaslady
said on 8/31/2005 @ 4:01 pm PT...
Mrs. Bunny Greenhouse, 25 years in government service, 20 years excellent work reviews...Suddenly questions Halliburton's contracts and others...find millions of over billing.
Won't lie to Congress and the bad reviews begin, suddenly demoted, for not getting along.
This is how the few with a moral compass are rewarded.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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superwoman
said on 8/31/2005 @ 4:38 pm PT...
kestrel brighteyes, #11
THanks for caring.... I appreciate that. The only thing I can find is this:
http://www.democraticund...s=203×391869#392137
Since it's a long URL, I don't know how it will show up. In that same forum is info about a fund being set up for her.
I'm trying really hard not to be paranoid, really I am..... but all these really awful things happening to those who speak out....... It gets a bit much.
I really like kestrels. ^_^ Even though one came to my 12th floor balcony and ate the eggs laid in one of my flower pots by a finch, I still like 'em. ^_^
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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superwoman
said on 8/31/2005 @ 4:51 pm PT...
THanks for posting those audio clips!
Now, I have a problem..... after an hour download, I find that the clip of Sherole Eaton cuts off during her interview, so I don't even find out what happened that day in her office.
There was at least 6 minutes of other stuff before the interview with her started..... is there something wrong with how it downloaded?
I really wanted to get this interview, as I have a neighbor who is *finally* interested in Election Fraud, and I was counting on sharing this with her.
Please, help with this!
Thanks!
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Doug Eldritch
said on 8/31/2005 @ 5:00 pm PT...
Shannon: Here's proof the disaster in Louisiana could have been prevented.
http://archives.thedaily...30101/N9.BIHquakebu.html
They cut and slashed the funding, Bush's cronies in order to get more oil. Global Warming could have well been slown down if we got onto alternative fuels by 2000.
Doug E
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 8/31/2005 @ 6:00 pm PT...
Superwoman -
I just checked the file, it's all there and correctly online. You should be able to grab it. Only thing I can think is that your download stopped prematurely. Hate to say it, but please try again.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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superwoman
said on 8/31/2005 @ 7:22 pm PT...
Thanks, Brad! Y'mean, I'm talking to *the* Brad, himself? ^_^ Someone else suggested the problem may have been in the program I use to play it, so I'm downloading Winamp as suggested.
Thanks for letting me know that you checked it, and it's all there. That's what I needed to know.
Is there any chance that you may put together the audio interviews from Camp Casey onto a CD? I couldn't afford it, but I sure know people who would love to have something like that, and I'd certainly spread the word. I think it would sell like the proverbial hotcakes, especially among those who aren't online.
Thanks again!
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Grizzly Bear Dancer
said on 8/31/2005 @ 7:31 pm PT...
Let's take stock: The 4 swing states of NM, NV, OH, and Fl. duplicated the Florida swing state fraud of election 2000. Improvised humanistic type fraud and Diebold/Triad electronic vote machine fraud and tabulator tampering has now produced an indicted 2 woman. 8 months after the Bushit majority in CONGRESS handed Dubya his nukes back, 2 individuals now stand accused of a little foul play. I think we should celebrate by teaching only the creation theory in schools across amerika instead of any scientific ideals. I think we should spread the word to all Iraqi boys and girls that if they are good this year we promise not to bomb them and that a Santa Clause who's gonna look just like our President is gonna come down their chimneys at night this Christmas and they are gonna receive big presents.
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big dan
said on 8/31/2005 @ 7:54 pm PT...
If this doesn't overturn the election, then who cares? That would mean it's OK to steal an election, and it doesn't matter if it's proven to be stolen later. "Mission Accomplished", they stole the election. All we can do is say that it was proven to be stolen. Big Deal.
If the ONLY THING that happens, is these guys go to jail, big deal.
If there's no change in the election, and no change in electronic voting machines and optical scanners, and there's no change in insuring an accurate recount, then guess what? The only thing that happened was they sacrificed 2 little guys for the greater good of stealing the election.
2008: GOP steals election again! Sorry to be a party pooper.
The mainstream media won't cover this story.
Brad: Will these indictments result in overturning the election, or changing voting, or changing recount procedures?
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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scott
said on 8/31/2005 @ 8:31 pm PT...
Guess what? I'm from Cleveland....this hasn't even made our local news broadcasts. Not our ABC, NBC, CBS or Fox affiliates.....
For those poor, poor souls on the Gulf Coast their tragedy has totally removed Karl Rove, Cindy Sheehan and Downing Street from the MainStream attention.
The administration must be thanking their lucky stars for this in a very sick way.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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BUSHW@CKER
said on 8/31/2005 @ 9:35 pm PT...
The Genetic Code for the President of the United States has been published.
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Ram
said on 8/31/2005 @ 11:17 pm PT...
Brad: Did you ever check on the punchcards for Cuyhoga County that could have mixed up Kerry and Bush votes (Parma 8E and 8D)?
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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m3
said on 9/1/2005 @ 3:14 am PT...
So they rigged the count... and then rigged the hand recount.
It's time to demand a re-vote.
Ohio's election was corrupt to the fucking core, the evidence is there... enoughs enough...
Ohio citizens deserve the right to re-vote.
a) Extreme statistical anomolies
b) Vote-counting under a fake security 'lock-down' away from the public (which the FBI stated they had no knowledge of) - in other words, a secret ballot counting that was performed under a cloak through reasons that were blatant lies.
c) Corruption of the justice system thanks to Blackwell's buddy Chief Justice Thomas Moyer who stonewalled legal proceedings and provided protection for Blackwell's election theft.
d) Triad GSI messing with tabulators.
e) Triad GSI teaching election officials how to use "cheat sheets" to avoid hand recounts. (thanks to that testimony!!)
f) The proven hackability of Diebold, ES&S, etc. machines through a simple buffer overflow. (thanks to blackboxvoting)
g) Consequently, because of the buffer overflow vulnerability, these machines failed to comply to the standards they needed to meet to be suitable for use in elections. - These were insecure machines, that didn't meet security standards, and as such, were illegitimately used.
Anyone want to continue with H, I, J, etc... - I'm sure there are many more reasons Ohio deserves a re-vote.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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curtis
said on 9/1/2005 @ 5:08 pm PT...
"These allegations are based on interpretation of procedures, not on any suggestion of fraud," they said.
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Kraig
said on 9/1/2005 @ 9:26 pm PT...
To M3:
I agree and don't forget the racist disenfranchisement measures designed to hinder the black vote in many areas in Ohio and elsewhere too. Though certainly done much more out of a cynical effort to hamper likely Kerry-voters than out of a racist desire to prevent blacks from voting because they're black, nevertheless the results are the same and either way it smacks of the awful Jim Crow days (and then pieces of dung like Ann Coulter call for bringing back the poll tax!). I myself vowed after the ridiculous farce in 2000 when everyone was supposed to "accept" that Bush by everyone's count got a half million less actual, real votes than Al Gore but somehow more imaginary "electoral collage" mystical pixie dust votes that somehow are the only ones that "matter", to never again vote in an American election on any level unless the electoral collage "rule" is shitcanned. So please, let us all not forget that this matter needs resolving also.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Humpty Dumbya will fall
said on 9/2/2005 @ 9:30 pm PT...
Bush's stealing of two elections and his most recent display of incompetence regarding his response to Katrina suggests America is well on the path to banana republicanism!
The country deserves much better in terms of leadership.
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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M Cook
said on 9/3/2005 @ 8:26 am PT...
In Cuyahoga County, Kerry won 2 to 1. This is a county were allegations were made that more voter cast ballots than were registered. Now we find out that recount was handled according to the guidelines handed down by the DEMOCRAT Controlled Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office.
What are these Democrats trying hide??? Are Kerry's number really inflated and a recount would have proven this to be true, thus the Democrats set up a process to make sure it was not recounted??
"The Board operates under the advice and counsel of the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office. The Prosecutor's Office was specifically asked to review the recount procedures consistently utilized by the Board since 1982. The Board was advised to continue operating under the precedent used for more than two decades. Unfortunately, this same process has now resulted in indictments based on alleged procedural defects."
http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx storyid=40043
Cuyahoga County Prosecutor.
http://www.woodcodemocrats.org/mason.html
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Kraig
said on 9/3/2005 @ 2:18 pm PT...
One question for "M. Cook":
Why is it every time in either of these "elections" when there was a "computer error" in the voting machine, every f***ing time it went for Bush instead of the Democrat candidate? How brainwashed do you have to be to not find that suspicious?
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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M Cook
said on 9/3/2005 @ 6:13 pm PT...
Kraig, since you did not have an answer for my questions, I assume that you also believe the Democrats have something to hide in Cuyahoga County.
As to the computer error. A quick check of google shows only shows this once in the state of Ohio. That was in Frankln County, were the chairman of the election board was also the chairman of that county's Democrat party. This error was caught and corrected.
Are we now to believe that this board. whose chairman was a Democrat, was trying to steal the election for Bush??
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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CV
said on 9/4/2005 @ 7:31 am PT...
Thanks Brad and all for sticking to this story, between you, the Blade and John Conyers, we may eventually know some truth.
Meanwhile, the Thugs still squat on Pennsylvania Avenue. If your readers are as fed up as I am, they'll join me and a million other pissed-off Americans in Washington DC on the 24th 25th and 26th of september. Camp Casey on the Mall, a candlelight vigil of 500 000 people around the WhiteHouse, The widest possible cross section of America has to be there, it's probably a turning point in American History and you don't want to miss it. A million people surrounding Congress on Monday morning, "If you are not already with us your noy going to work today" One Million Americans we will take our government back from the illegitimate gangsters that have stolen it, looted it and are running it into the ground.
Take it to Washington 9/24, 25 & 26
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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smh
said on 9/5/2005 @ 3:59 pm PT...
You're garbage. Your blow... blog is garbage.
in bright red, top-center, your page reads
"--> Please DONATE to help keep The BRAD BLOG Blogging!
Isn't there something more important you should be focusing people's donations on? I find it hard to believe that you would lay out your brag blog in such a way that reader's attention is focused on your own private funds instead of the relief effort on the gulf coast.
Liberalism is not a mental illness.
It is simply a side effect of mental illness.
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Isaac Borton
said on 9/7/2005 @ 4:15 pm PT...
This story was posted on a back web page on cnn.com for 1 day. Then it mysteriously disappeared hte next. You would think maybe this story should get mainstream coverage since it may mean that our president is John Kerry, not George Bush. However i searched google, msn, askjeeves, fox news, cnn, nbc, bbc, and even reuters, and not a single hit except this site, and a story in the Cleveland Plain Dealer. The general public will remain completely unaware of this fraud unless somehow it gets real press time. I emailed cnn, asking what happened to this story, and got no reply. Anyone have any ideas on how to get this story real exposure? I would love to hear them if so.
Isaac Borton, Iowa
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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Drugs Town
said on 5/11/2006 @ 5:28 am PT...
Why is it every time in either of these "elections" when there was a "computer error" in the voting machine, every f***ing time it went for Bush instead of the Democrat candidate? How brainwashed do you have to be to not find that suspicious?
Regards, Drugs town