San Francisco Promotes Smoking, Death by Banning All E-Cig Sales: ‘BradCast’ 7/8/2019

Guest: David Pasch of Voices for Vaping; Also: A quick roundup of a mountain of news from over the holiday weekend...

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On today’s BradCast, we open today with a quick review of as many of the noteworthy stories as possible from over the long holiday weekend, before moving to San Francisco’s horribly, deadly scheme to — yes — promoting smoking! [Audio link to show follows below.]

Among the quick news stories covered first:

  • Trump’s celebration to himself with his 4th of July tribute to America’s violent and deadly militaristic past, present and future on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial;
  • The Dept. of Justice flipping its position on adding a question on citizenship to the 2020 Census after last week conceding in federal court they would NOT do so after their effort was blocked by SCOTUS. Now, the entire legal team handling the matter has been replaced following Trump’s tweeted insistence that the question would be added anyway;
  • Britain’s ambassador to the U.S. is discovered having accurately referred to Trump in private cables as “inept”, “uniquely dysfunctional” and with a Presidency that “could end in disgrace”;
  • The U.S. Women’s Soccer team wins their second World Cup in a row despite Trump’s personal attacks on them (and their loathing of him, in kind);
  • Michigan’s conservative “Tea Party” Rep. Justin Amash, the only Republican in Congress to call for Trump’s impeachment — and perhaps the most effective of any party in doing so — announced he was leaving the GOP;
  • Billionaire hedge fund manager and Trump pal Jeffrey Epstein was arrested and charged over the weekend with sex trafficking that included minors, dating from 2002, when Trump was quoted that same year by New York Magazine as calling him “a terrific guy”, “a lot of fund to be with” and someone who “likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side”. Epstein was arraigned and pleaded not guilty in federal court in Manhattan on Monday;
  • Iran announced it has exceeded uranium enrichment levels beyond those set by the landmark nuclear agreement struck during the Obama Administration, but broken by Trump (so now broken, in kind, by Iran);
  • Temperatures hit 90 degrees for several days in Fairbanks, Alaska(!);
  • And, oh yeah, over the holiday weekend, we had two of the largest earthquakes here in Southern California to hit in more than 20 years, including one that hit 7.1 on the Richter Scale.

Then it’s on to our guest today, DAVID PASCH of Voices for Vaping, an industry group sponsored by the Vapor Technology Association which, according to Pasch, takes no money from Big Tobacco and is dedicated to “bringing together Americans from all walks of life demanding access to the 21st century technology that will end smoking.” He is with us today in response to an ill-considered new city ordinance signed last week by San Francisco Mayor London Breed, after unanimous passage by the City Council, banning the sale of all e-cigarettes and vaping devices — via both brick-and-mortar stores as well as via mail order — for everyone in the city.

The measure is certain to increase unnecessary deaths by making it much more difficult to quit smoking via e-cigarettes in a nation where half a million die each year thanks to cigarette smoking. A similarly troubling, if less draconian measure to restrict vaping is now moving through the California state Assembly, despite the proven health benefits of quitting smoking in favor of vaping, as touted by no less than UK’s Royal College of Physicians as 95% safer than smoking.

Pasch, who formerly worked at the U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services and for various non-profits in the healthcare industry, discusses the deadly implications of San Francisco’s ban, the dangers of California’s proposed measure, and the idiocy of banning the sale of devices proven to help smokers quit smoking while allowing cigarette sales to continue in the supposedly progressive enclave unabated. He also speaks to the wholly unproven myth “that e-cigarettes are some sort of gateway” to tobacco for teens, while San Francisco’s “proposed solution is to get rid of them and make sure that tobacco products like cigarettes are the only ones actually available still on the store shelves.” He describes vapor technology and vapor products as “probably the most exciting public health innovation of my lifetime” with “the potential to end smoking as we know it.”

Alas, he also notes, that he cannot explain how San Francisco, “a progressive beacon for the whole country and in many ways for the whole world” appears to be promoting “one of the biggest public health scourges in the country” through their recent action. “If you want to see what good, progressive, small-d democratic outreach and acceptance of this issue looks like,” he points to the United Kingdom. “In England, they’re not exactly known as a loose regulatory environment. They have totally embraced this. The National Health Service literally pays for advertisements showing how many doctors recommend their patients switch to e-cigarettes as a way to quit. You have vape shops that are literally being built in public hospitals in England right now. It’s a totally different approach, that I think progressive Democratic leaders in the United States should be looking to follow.”

Finally, after a few more quick news items — including Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) dropping out of the Presidential race and billionaire environmentalist and impeachment activist Tom Steyer considering jumping in — we open the phone lines to folks who really seem to want to talk about vaping! Both for and against it! My own personal journey — quitting my own 30-year, 2-pack a day habit overnight, thanks to vaping — was recently published as a Letter to the Editor in the Los Angeles Times. With the phones open, lively conversation ensues. Enjoy!

The BradCast with Brad Friedman 7/8/2019
San Francisco Promotes Smoking, Death by Banning All E-Cig Sales: ‘BradCast’ 7/8/2019  |  Guest: David Pasch of Voices for Vaping; Also: A quick roundup of a mountain of news from over the holiday weekend...   · · · · ·   San Francisco Promotes Smoking, Death by Banning All E-Cig Sales: ‘BradCast’ 7/8/2019  |  Guest: David Pasch of Voices for Vaping; Also: A quick roundup of a mountain of news from over the holiday weekend...
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    nemo said on 7/8/2019 @ 10:39pm PT: [Permalink]

    I still think vaping is stupid and you should just stop using nicotine — but you have a point that there is no reasonable justification for restricting the sales of vape stuff more harshly than regular tobacco. Treating them the same would seem to be the sensible option.

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    Brad Friedman said on 7/8/2019 @ 11:09pm PT: [Permalink]

    Hey, Nemo, I promise not to tell you what I think you “should” do with your life, if you don’t tell me what I “should” do. Deal?

    In the meantime, I’d prefer not to see half a million Americans die each year needlessly. Concerns for their lives and their family’s lives is far more important than what you or I think they “should” or shouldn’t do, don’t ya think?

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    Matt Froelich said on 7/9/2019 @ 12:03am PT: [Permalink]

    Ban vaping while allowing continued cigarette sales?

    I smell bribes from the tobacco industry. I’ve been reading about how these public nuisances have been stepping up marketing efforts in foreign lands to counter the decline in domestic sales.

    Mark Felt’s advice still holds.

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    DonL said on 7/9/2019 @ 2:47am PT: [Permalink]

    There shouldn’t be any problem with vaping, IMO.

    This does look like the Ciggy companies fighting back.

    The only thing I have a problem with is the marketing/advertising of vaping products to kids.

    Once that is covered (i.e.blocked), I don’t see a problem, except for maybe cigarette company profits.

    I say to the cigarette-makers:
    Tuff noogies!

    Of course this is just my own opinion,
    but . . .

    cannabis vape>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tobacco vape

    It’s a free country.
    To each their own!

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