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"'Non-Partisan' Ring-Leaders of GOP 'Voting Rights' Front Group Currently Very Active Partisans!"
(39 Responses so far...)
COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Peg C
said on 3/28/2005 @ 6:17 pm PT...
Don't forget the Center for Ethics and the Free Market (CEFM), whose report was included in ACVR's testimony. They are just as GOP-connected.
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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Peggy
said on 3/28/2005 @ 7:13 pm PT...
Snarl, snarl, snarl (they make me mad), snarl!
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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John Smith
said on 3/28/2005 @ 7:26 pm PT...
Recently I pointed out that the "news" releases for ACVR were being distributed by US Newswire, a company owned by PR flacks Medialink Inc. I also pointed to CEO Laurence Moskowitz and a speech he made regarding the transformation of commercials on TV and how his PR firm and others like it could reap at least 1% of the 60$ Billion spent annually on TV advertising. Well, the future is now.
http://www.broadcastingc...eature&referral=SUPP
Cost Comparison
TV Commercial*...............“Secured” VNR
prod cost: $372,000................ $15,000-$25,0000
media buy: $5-$20 million............ $10,000-$50,0000
Appealing to the lowest common denominator. In more ways than one. Your news at discount prices.
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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John Smith
said on 3/28/2005 @ 7:30 pm PT...
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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John Smith
said on 3/28/2005 @ 7:30 pm PT...
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Ron Brynaert
said on 3/28/2005 @ 8:10 pm PT...
John Smith,
Well at least Moskowitz understands the importance of disclosure..He criticized the Bush Administration for their fake news video press releases. Hell...Mr. Moskowitz's news brought to us by Coke or Pepsi might actually be better than what we have now in terms of tv news.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't keep our eyes shut.
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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Peg C
said on 3/28/2005 @ 9:23 pm PT...
Dear John (Smith) -
I'm going to hasten to your recommended URL, but ONLY after urging you to LINK your links. As in:
[a href="http://www.freepress.net/action/fakenews"]target="_blank"]fake news[/a] Substitute for []!!!
Here is your link.
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Peg C
said on 3/28/2005 @ 9:26 pm PT...
There should be only one space between "a" and "href" in the html. I don't know why that gap occurred, between composition and posted message.
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Peg C
said on 3/28/2005 @ 9:31 pm PT...
Oh, gosh...I'd already signed that petition. With about fifty petitions a day, one loses track...
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 3/29/2005 @ 7:31 am PT...
Somebody tell them quick, the parents of Terri Schiavo are selling the list of doners to their cause ... while saying its not about the money (link here).
Ghoulish is the word I think of that describes neocons.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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DaWookie
said on 3/29/2005 @ 8:03 am PT...
Slight OT but WTF...
Read, digest and wonder. I've said for ages that Rove is a smart one and this backs it up.
Keep the faith.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Peg C
said on 3/29/2005 @ 10:36 am PT...
Da Wookie #11 -
"...borders on terrifying." Now THAT is an understatement!
Dredd #10 -
Ugh! The forces of darkness are raging in our midst...
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Bejammin075
said on 3/29/2005 @ 2:06 pm PT...
To summarize the ACagainstVR 31-page report:
Vote fraud is entirely committed by left-leaning groups like the NAACP and America Coming Together, in a sinister plot to register fake people, like the infamous Jive Turkey Sr. (Who will do what? Wait in 2 different 5-hour lines to cast 2 votes??)
NOT the Texas Strike Force, with hotel bills paid for by the RNC.
NOT Sproule & Associates (also paid for by the RNC), caught with shredded democratic voter registration forms in their garbage.
and certainly NOT the Republican-owned voting machines with secret software. Vote machines were not even hinted at in the report.
The report is a complete sham. The ACagainstVR group is a complete sham. The fact that high-level Republicans created this fake group with instant high-level access says A LOT. Think about it.
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 3/29/2005 @ 4:24 pm PT...
Hey BeJammin075! I agree totally. In fact, I think the actual number of "registrations" they cite comes to about 100. Did any of those people actually vote? If so, why didn't they mention in in the report?
And - (I should go back & read that thing again) isn't that their main finding of FRAUD?
They never mentioned a single Republican irregularity - if the MSM doesn't pick up on that we should start flooding their inboxes & phones telling them to START TELLING THE WHOLE STORY.
I'm mad as HELL and won't take it ANYMORE.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Bob Bilse
said on 3/30/2005 @ 8:30 am PT...
DaWookie, read your Karl Rove link. This is the most dangerous man in the country right now. He should be in prison. Instead, he's "The Architect" ...
No doubt, ACVR is one of his brainstorms. They will let no Democratic commission evolve without setting up a counter-group, and that's that. And, don't think, for one minute, that he limits what he's doing to propaganda. I'd love to have a day with him, alone, with a supply of Sodium Penathol. The results would be scary!
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Manananana
said on 3/30/2005 @ 9:31 am PT...
I'd love to have a day with him, alone, with a supply of Sodium Penathol.
Don't worry, you can bring yourself to tell the truth without drugs - even to Karl Rove. He will listen to you. But if you lie, it's off to Gitmo for you.
They know how to get the truth out of people down there. Plus you'll get a tan. A truth and a tan courtesy of the Rovian Mind Meld. Enjoy.
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 3/30/2005 @ 10:07 am PT...
And the "Moral Majority" members are bragging and joking about torture. Good. Let them keep talking, and talking and talking. Saves us a lot of work! Please, don't let me interupt, tell us more.
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Manananana
said on 3/30/2005 @ 12:58 pm PT...
...members are bragging and joking about torture... Please, don't let me interupt, tell us more.
I'd much rather show you...words are so inadequate.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 3/30/2005 @ 2:53 pm PT...
Yeh? Tell me more! I bet torture and killing little Iraqi children turn you on? Am I right?
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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Manananana
said on 3/30/2005 @ 6:39 pm PT...
Am I right?
No. Are you a litttle Iraqi child?
COMMENT #21 [Permalink]
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Kira
said on 3/31/2005 @ 5:56 am PT...
The RepubliCON Party says it's working to bring back family values, but instead it keeps generating a*holes like manananana. Ah, so many Republican hypocrites, so little time.
COMMENT #22 [Permalink]
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Manananana
said on 3/31/2005 @ 9:45 am PT...
Ah, so many Republican hypocrites, so little time.
So does name-calling help you with your own self-image? Or are you from the Pee Wee Herman school of discourse? "I know you are, but what am I" really gets tiresome pretty quick.
You do realize that the minue you resort to ad hominem attacks that you automatically lose the debate? Well, maybe you don't realize it, but you do.
COMMENT #23 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 3/31/2005 @ 10:26 am PT...
Awe, your critique is so dear and valuable to us.
Sorry you find us so tiresome, must be why we haven't heard from you in so long.
Puh-leeze forgive us master, we bow to your every opinion.
There, is that better? Sorry, don't own a burka.
COMMENT #24 [Permalink]
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Manananana
said on 3/31/2005 @ 11:22 am PT...
Puh-leeze forgive us master, we bow to your every opinion.
There, is that better? Sorry, don't own a burka.
And you wonder why women get stereotyped as emotional and illogical?
COMMENT #25 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 3/31/2005 @ 12:20 pm PT...
No, wrong again. I admit it. And it allows me to get away with all kinds of stuff. I'm very comfortable being a woman. I don't mind being stereotyped, it gives me an advantage.
COMMENT #26 [Permalink]
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Manananana
said on 3/31/2005 @ 1:17 pm PT...
And it allows me to get away with all kinds of stuff.
Not with me.
I don't mind being stereotyped, it gives me an advantage.
Sure it does. Just keep thinking that. A lib who likes to be stereotyped. I'd better call the FAA, 'cause no doubt they're overwhelmed with flying pigs about now.
COMMENT #27 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 3/31/2005 @ 2:13 pm PT...
I know, you want to send me to GTMO, and not for a tan. Guess your one of those .
I am a lib, I do not lie. Didn't say I liked it, said didn't mind, certainly love the advantage.
uh-oh, I think I'm becoming hysterical.
COMMENT #28 [Permalink]
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Manananana
said on 3/31/2005 @ 2:56 pm PT...
I am a lib, I do not lie.
Get that one from Willie?
Didn't say I liked it, said didn't mind...
Mighty fine case of hair-splitting.
certainly love the advantage.
What is the advantage of being stereotyped? Should there be more of it?
uh-oh, I think I'm becoming hysterical.
Too late. Now go take your estrogen so you can mellow.
COMMENT #29 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 3/31/2005 @ 3:48 pm PT...
You and I are going to have real problems if you go picking on my Willie.
The hair -splitting thingy is just a woman being bitchy. Go ahead, use it. Yawn
Estrogen causes cancer, don't you read?
COMMENT #30 [Permalink]
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Manananana
said on 3/31/2005 @ 4:20 pm PT...
You and I are going to have real problems if you go picking on my Willie.
Didn't know you had a soft spot for the trailer trash from Arkansas. Well, if the Hildebeast runs, he'll probably be back out on the trail scammin' and connin' for his pudgy mate.
That is unless he's too sick.
COMMENT #31 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 3/31/2005 @ 7:26 pm PT...
Sorry for the misunderstanding, thought you meant Willie Nelson. He's my one and only Willie.
I don't have a problem with Clinton, it could be a delightful change from a AWOL drunken cheerleader? Mr. Manners.
COMMENT #32 [Permalink]
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Manananana
said on 3/31/2005 @ 7:51 pm PT...
I don't have a problem with Clinton...
Or as Monica would say, "Been there, done that, got the STD."
COMMENT #33 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 3/31/2005 @ 8:44 pm PT...
She was one lucky girl, in more ways than one!
I'm sure you think you are a paragon of virtue.
What do you want? Why are you here? Would you like a list of blogs where your kind meet and chat?
We are no threat to you, what we do is harmless and fun, like getting together after work to have a beer, sharing, letting off steam. All legal. All harmless. All none of your business.
You must know your abuse will only be tolerated for just so long. Your the intruder. If you hate us, just leave. We'll understand, and miss you terribly.
COMMENT #34 [Permalink]
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Manananana
said on 4/1/2005 @ 6:07 am PT...
What do you want? Why are you here?
You don't know? You can't figure it out?
Would you like a list of blogs where your kind meet and chat?
My kind? Would that be a stereotype?
All none of your business.
It is a web site. It is on the web. It is not password protected, thus I have to assume it is open to anyone. How can you say that, then?
You must know your abuse will only be tolerated for just so long.
Is that a threat? You mean you're all for Ward Churchhill's free speech but not mine? Sounds a little "conflicted" to me.
If you hate us, just leave.
Nah, I don't hate you. I find you all amusing. Sorta like the furtive glances people make toward the National Enquirer rag in the grocery checkout. I look at my time here like going to the zoo and looking at all the strange animals and creatures. Be nice and I might even toss you a peanut.
So the "just leave" thing. Does that mean that you endorse turning this place into an echo chamber of like-minded individuals - each reinforcing the paranoia of the other?
COMMENT #35 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 4/1/2005 @ 7:32 am PT...
Yes
Yes
Apologize
Apologize
Ditto
No
LMFAO, Mana the missionary, spreading your gospel. Wasting your time. An exercise in futility, to be sure! Didn't you go to bible school, to learn the "sins" of "casting your pearls amoung the swine"?
COMMENT #36 [Permalink]
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Manananana
said on 4/1/2005 @ 8:22 am PT...
Mana the missionary, spreading your gospel.
I am no missionary and I have no gospel to spread.
Didn't you go to bible school,
When I was a young child, I did go to Bible school.
to learn the "sins" of "casting your pearls among the swine"?
That wasn't the reason I went, though. I went because at that age, I thought it was cool to ride the free white-painted bus on Sunday mornings.
Now many years have passed, and I am an atheist, having given up on the hocus-pocus of any religion. I came to that point somewhere in my second tour in Viet Nam. That doesn't mean that I look down or despise those who choose to believe in that mumbo-jumbo, just that I don't. Religious people do not scare me nor do I pity them.
I do study the Bible, but only in the twin contexts of trying to understand ancient history and to garner any lessons that might be in it. I look at the Bible as a history book, of some question as to its accuracy, but no better, no worse than any other produced at the time.
COMMENT #37 [Permalink]
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Nana
said on 4/1/2005 @ 11:57 am PT...
If what you say is true, and your not just being "spooky", it is very sad. In that you lost something dear you once had.
BTW, it was a metaphor, that slid from my irrepressible morbid sense of humor. Must be the red hair.
COMMENT #38 [Permalink]
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Manananana
said on 4/1/2005 @ 1:43 pm PT...
In that you lost something dear you once had.
If you are talking about religion, then I would like you to try to remember when you learned some neat thing like riding a bike, or playing a musical instrument. Remember that feeling of self-satisfaction and joy at being able to do or know something new? That is exactly how I felt when I abandoned my attempts to make sense out of the spiritual world. It was liberating and filled me with a sense of joy. So I wouldn't call it sad. I never really bought the line that religion preaches and still don't. But I never really lost anything. I just gave up trying to find something that was obviously not there.
COMMENT #39 [Permalink]
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Ian Herold
said on 4/6/2005 @ 11:01 am PT...
It is mystifying that anybody acknowledges this clown. Nana, what are you thinking?