Dead-on op/ed about the Gannon story in The Oregonian once again debunking the myth of the “liberal” media…
And what if it turns up that Gannon/Guckert has an eyebrow-raising connection to the investigation of the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame?
And what if Gannon/Guckert was involved in setting up Web sites promoting homosexual prostitution? And what if racy nude photos of him start flooding the Internet?
The only thing imaginary about this scenario was the part about Kerry being president. Had it been Kerry whose aide allowed Gannon/Guckert such access to the president, just think of the furor. Conservative Web jockeys, in tandem with talk-radio shouters, would have created a frenzy thrusting the sordid story onto front pages across the land. At the very least, President Kerry’s press secretary would be out of a job.
Our only quibble, the unbylined author’s line: “Bloggers on the left are no less bullies than those on the right.” On that issue, the writer couldn’t be more incorrect. Otherwise, a good, short, to-the-point read worthy of encouraging us all to make even more noise until those bastards pay attention.
Have we mentioned lately that we have an “Email it to someone!” button at the bottom of every article?
Yeah…how is the right can get away with making something out of nothing and the left can’t even make anything out of something?
We need to make some real noise. Stand in front of the post office and hand out pamphlets or something bold.
With emails like this (posted by crooksandliars), they’re saying we’re as bullish as them? All we did is put the mirror to the monster’s face, and it went crazy. I agree that some on the left can be quite vulgar, but I suggest the writers at Oregonian go to a right wing site and try not to find any vulgarity. They’d have a better chance winning the lottery. If we’re percieved as bullish, so be it. It takes some muscle to defend yourself against a bully.
For the most part, though, a good article.
how about calling and emailing every single editor and journalist covering the Gannon story and complaining about their lack of "howler monkey" level coverage?
if i remember correctly, on "Real Time" last Friday, Joe Biden said that the media played a big part in elevating the Swift Boat Vets lies and spreading Rathergate far and wide.
if each of us send email complaints to every member of the Judiciary Committee andyour own Reps in Congress demanding an investigation of the security breach at the White House, while at the same time calling and emailing and bitching loudly about the MSM’s pathetic coverage of said issue, then perhaps one of them will be shamed into actually doing something about it.
it’s true that the repubs are the worst kind of hypocrites — because people die when they lie. the dems are barely holding on to a place at the table, and they are being meek as kittens about getting something done.
hold their feet to the fire, hold them all accountable, and encourage every person you know to do the same. EMAIL! WRITE! CALL if you really give a damn!
The other quibble I’d have with the Oregonian editorial is that they should have added, "If the election had been conducted honestly, John Kerry WOULD have appointed a new press secretary."
Des is right. Every Senator and Congressperson should get an e-mail with the editorial attached. I’d also put the following people on the list: Falwell, Dobson, Robertson, O’Reilly, Coulter, LaHaye, Limbaugh, North, Gingrich, etc.
But our emphasis must be on abuse of government power, not sex (except to the extent of prostitution being a criminal act, and the possibility that public servants participated). Questions needing answers:
1) Gannon has been using his alias for years. Scott McClellan says he just found out it wasn’t his real name. What did the Secret Service and F.B.I. know and when did they know it? If they investigated him under the name Gannon, there would have been no public records, because his name is Guckert. Under what name did he first obtain clearance?
2) Has any other reporter ever obtained so many daily passes without ever asking for or being given a permanent pass? Didn’t this arouse suspicion?
3) Does Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald have all the information about Guckert/Gannon for his Valerie Plame investigation? Does Fitzgerald have the same blanket authority Ken Starr had, to follow the trail wherever it leads?
4) If it turns out some reporter knows from a source how Gannon obtained the information about Plame, which is probable, should said reporter be allowed to protect the source? I’d like to read the Oregonian’s comments on that issue.
It is not our duty to do the duty of the MSM. If they abrogate that duty the shame will stick to them.
History includes the blogosphere, and it may be far more interesting in the future, since it is a techno revolution in itself, and may be focused on even more than the MSM.
The history books will record that the MSM became traitors to the news, their duty, and their people.
It will be the story of the trail of a thousand tears. The story of the time the news died and propaganda replaced it.
The descendants of the MSM will suffer shame, and the validity of the left’s journalism in the blogs will become apparent.
The artwork of Cezanne, Van Gogh, Monet, Manet, Pissaro, Rembrandt, and Gauguin are not handled the same today as they were then, even though those paintings have not changed.
These masters were trash talked in their day, but not so now. Sometimes that is the fate of those who have the sense of an art form.
Dredd #6… Yes. You have your finger on the nature of reality–it behaves in discernible patterns! (As for the paintings, very true. I was reading today a review of a new edition of The Maltese Falcon by Hammett, and the reviewer was noting that after his death Hammett was trashed by contemporaries because he wrote so few books. Now, of course, it is recognized that what he did produce were masterpieces. Cf. Van Gogh…) One disagreement: history will not remember the failure of the MSM. It will not remember them at all. The history of journalism in this period will BE the blogosphere.
For those who don’t read Newsweek, here is their coverage of Gannongate, in the 2/21 issue. In a small box they call "Blogwatch", is this item: "Hack or flack? Daily Kos diarists and Atrios exposed a right-wing wacko who somehow got a White House press credential." That’s it. So, don’t count on the MSM. We’re on our own.
The only thing The Oregonian got right was this,
"Whatever the case, the Jeff Gannon story is legitimate."
The bottom line here is money and control. The right wing owns and controls *the message* through corporate power, period.
"Bloggers on the left are no less bullies than those on the right,"
BULLSHIT
If the shoe was on the other foot, all right wing media would have been shrieking to high heaven before there were facts to back them up. They pretend outrage and then *find* facts to support their assertions.
"but it’s possible that mainstream U.S. news organizations resent the liberal bias tag so much that they’re more susceptible to pressure from the right."
DOUBLE BULLSHIT
Repeat….the right wing corporations own the media. General Electric and Disney and Murdoch and Sun Myung Moon won’t easily allow left wing opinions, let alone a "fair and balanced" approach. If they are bowing to pressure, it isn’t because they resent the liberal-bias tag, it’s simply that they’ll quickly trade their integrity for the chance to keep their high paying jobs and notoriety.
This is off topic but important.
Th AARP is opposing **sh’s Soc. Sec. privatization assault on seniors and workers. Remember the Swift Boat Liars? Well they’re back. This is an actual ad that will be released in the attempt to smear the AARP’s opposition to privatization. Here is an article explaining it from their perspective.
I’m just a little speechless.
On second thought, maybe it isn’t so off topic after all. Gannon is/was part of the propaganda machine used for the same kinds of attacks on those who oppose **sh.
WND Is Not Hanes!!!
(a short poem)
Joseph Farah’s lotioned hands
slip and slide on the keyboard
weaving short
weaving brief
threads of lusty denial
hang in the dark moans
of a longing cover up
by WorldNewsDaily
a painfully unreasoned short
a woefully inadequate brief
by Yo Boy the Castrator
cut the nuts
and the bolts
of journalism
and cover with lies
brief the naked story
save another savior
lovely Jeff Gannon hangs well
on the cross
of all the truth that is left
OH! AH!
WND is such
pornographic journalism
oozing out the MSM hole
I really like the idea of printing out all the stories and leaving them in public places. We could cover the world!!
Supersoling #10 – Americablog has a contest going to see who can come up with the most absurd parody of that ad.
I’m waiting (hoping) for the comedians to have a field day with this one. These folks get more and more ridiculous as time goes by.
The really sad part about that ad is that although to most of us here it’s so illogical it’s laughable, there are actually some people in the general public who will buy into it.
This story may indicate that Jeff Gannon has moved to Philadelphia.
At least some in the MSM aren’t afraid to call a spade a spade, even if they’re not in the US.
I’m a little bummed out today. Too much negativety (?) I guess. Here’s something that made me laugh out loud.
Good one Cheryl! Thanks. My reaction upon hearing W’s lecture to Russia was identical to this. Who does he think he is? (Never mind. I’m pretty sure I know the answer to that one already.)
#15
Good one Dredd! I must admit the same thought crossed my mind when I read it.
sorry, Dredd (#6), but i’m gonna have to disagree with you on this one. you’re right about how depressing it is, but i think it too dangerous to just sit by and let the MSM bury themselves.
seems to me that the non-FNC news media have been slapped around so much from all sides that they don’t know which way is up anymore. if we don’t help them out, if we appear to be grossly apathetic, then they will not only sink but will take the rest of us with them.
it’s a pretty good — if accidental — strategy from the Bushies: emasculate the MSM, let the bloggers take all the risks. legal precedent is not established to protect bloggers’ 1st amendment rights, and that will take many years to wind its way through a judicial system stacked high with ultra-conservative activist judges. who knows how many other traps are hidden within the Patriot Act?
anyone have a less hackneyed way to say "the squeaky wheel gets the grease"?
Well- thanks Dredd- I did find the thread from only a few days ago where you mericlessly tortured Teresa and Peg by showing off your emoticon savvy before finally putting out. Sheeesh- some guys can be such teases. Unfortunately- maybe because of something in Safari- I can only read the view page- but i can’t edit it to show you how incredibly
😎 a Dnacing Bear i really am. So…. you’ll just have to use your imagination. As for this post re:What would would have happened if this was a Kerry white house?- I’m just a little too resigned to care.
Dnacin (?) Bear –
Uh oh…don’t get all "resigned" on us! Read this diary entry at Daily Kos.
Mind control is in Rove’s cards, and resignation on the part of his enemies would be all he needed to succeed.
Des #20 and Dnacing Bear #21.
Hey, I like your critical thinking.
But, which statement did you not like? Is this one from #6 valid:
"The history books will record that the MSM became traitors to the news, their duty, and their people".
Cheryl #16 Wow, who’d a thunk it? Pravada having more free press than the american MSM! Too freaking wierd!
Cheryl #17 … sorry my little WND is not Hanes thingy didn’t do it for you.
Dnancing Bear #21 "… where you mericlessly tortured Teresa and Peg by showing off your emoticon savvy before finally putting out". Look Cubby, that is the way we virgins do it.
heheh…"Lack of ‘howler monkey’ level coverage" 🙂
Anyway, good ideas Des. And in the meantime, an alt media editor/writer I spoke with recently suggests printing out stories and just leaving them wherever you can. Restaurants, dentists offices, etc. Just a thought…
Horkus – There’s a difference between vulgar (the use of off-color words, etc.) and being a bully. We’ve got our Rude Pundits on the Left, of course. But that’s a far cry from the bullying behavior of many on the Right.
As most of the people on this blog are liberals and, as such, have little interest in reading wing-nut propaganda, you may not realize just how many Con blogs there are in the world and how quickly they’re able to get (if you’ll excuse the pun) their bulldogs into action.
Don’t let the cons feed you this nonsense about liberal bloggers and smear tactics and such. The Cons have it down to a science and they rarely, if ever, rely on hard fact. They just reapeat a lie over and over until it becomes "common knowledge". That’s the way all propaganda works.
You guys know how cautious Brad is, how he never prints anything without checking and double checking. That’s the difference between liberals and Cons. The Truth.
Peg #22- Thanks- not to worry- my mind isn’t controlled any more than the rest of us- I was just expressing part of my human emotional roller coaster.- especially since words are the only way i can do that on the blog.
Dredd #24-
I think when it comes to giving really good emoticon- I am the only virgin around my dear Dredd head. you can hardly count yourself as a virgin since you evidently give great emoticon constantly and freely- I’m not saying you’re loose or anything- but , if the face fits- wear it. I on the other hand will move my resignation away from the ridiculous Gannon Gate episode and place it with my fate of being an emoticon virgin ….sigh. Maybe one day i will experience the pleasure of having a face with my name.
:rolleyes:
Here’s a recently discovered link to almost 400 published MSM email addresses:
MSM Folks who want to hear from you!
Feel free to use it any way you find appropriate. Or inappropriate. Though it is said one catches more flies with honey. So it is said anyway.
My apologies if anyone has already posted this, but it’s toooo funny.
Bill Maher on Gannon
Thanks Brighteyes- I had mentioned seeing it a couple of times- but I’m not savvy enuff to point to the goods like you. This is great- now my mom can see this (she doesn’t get HBO) and you have rebrightened my day.
🙂 😛 :hehe: 😀 😎
Raw Story has a link to The New Yorker story about the Gannon affair.
It suggest another reason why the story will go no further.
I think Brad’s comment #27 should be used to prove or disprove The New Yorker hypothesis that it requires a majority in congress to get a story going.
Raw Story just flashed a story that the democratic senate leadership is moving harder not to let the Gannon story die. link here.
I plan to email all the MSM and ask them to please be fair and at least report the story facts.
Did it! I sent this to hundreds of journalists using Brad’s suggestion:
Subject: PLEASE COVER THE GANNON STORY
Greetings,
Please prove this The New Yorker article wrong:
http://newyorker.com/talk/conte...talk_hertzberg
It says that the only way the fourth estate (press) will cover the Gannon story is if the controlling party in congress wants it to.
The press has the right to be independent. This is a worthy news story about which the public should know the facts.
While I fear they may be correct, I am not giving up.
Sincerely,
[name]
Thanks Dredd- as I was reading through I was thinking ….OK…I’ll email the MSM as Brad suggests…Oh…great! – so is Dredd…maybe i should ask him what he said….Aaahhhh… the sweet synchonicty of time shifted blogging- wonder and ye shall recieve.
:satisfied:
Dnacing Bear –
You say you can only read the view page, not edit. Can you copy it to WordPad and edit it from there?
The source code, that it…
Brad #27
Thanks
Dnacing Bear #33.
The easiest way is to copy the email addresses on the left four squares or the right four squares (there are eight total – but they are duplicates for different mail systems – so there are only four unique blocks total of addresses), then paste them into your email "To" section.
Then delete the first address, cause it is to a voting site. The rest are journalist related.
I could only do two blocks thru Yahoo before I reached my "hourly maximum", so I went to my other email site and did the last two.
It was quite slick and quite fast. Four hundred journalists contacted in eight or ten heartbeats.
Hey, I only give up when I die, and hold out hope that the MSM will come around til then.
Hey Peg C,
Can you give Dnacing Bear instructions on the smilies? Apparently you guys think my way is not quite efficient enough.
I still remember, like it was yesterday, how this so-called "liberal press" attacked every little thing Al Gore did, while soft-balling W’s draft-dodging, alcoholism, cocaine bust, and lack-of-qualification for high public office (which they’re still soft-balling).
The media is a capitol-generating financial institute. The days of The Cronkites and Murrows are over. Big money runs it now.
I still remember, like it was yesterday, how this so-called "liberal press" attacked every little thing Al Gore did, while soft-balling W’s draft-dodging, alcoholism, cocaine bust, and lack-of-qualification for high public office (which they’re still soft-balling).
The media is a capitol-generating financial institute. The days of The Cronkites and Murrows are over. Big money runs it now.
First off – thank you! everyone has demonstrated such comassion and understanding for my smilie envy issues- I believe you are all keeping me out of therapy- I almost feel like a "normal" blogger! :hehe:
Peg #34
yes- i can copy the page- and past it into word and edit away- but how does that edited source get back to where it counts to finally let me give as good face as Dredd? (My not so secret ambition in life)
Cheryl #37
I just discovered as a Mac user I can’t get psychotic emticon smilies- How sad and frustrating
:crazy:
Brad #4
Fair enough, Brad. I know that the right are the bullying champions of the world. There’s no comparison. The right wins hands down. I guess it comes down to semantics more than anything. I don’t know where they get the idea that most left blogs are bullish, but the right has their perceptions of us as bullish and it won’t change anytime soon, no matter what the logic is. And to that I say boohoo to the freepers of the world.
P.S. glad to see a disagreement every now and then. We are an independent thinking bunch, aren’t we? Disagreement in a right wing blog means certain banishment for the guilty party.
As Dredd so kindly instructed us, FINALLY:
Pull up the source code for this comments page in your browser (under View). Then, in your case, copy the source code into WordPad or some such.
Scroll down until you find the stacked entries for the 18 emoticons.
Select the one you want, eliminate everything but (and I substitute [] for here for obvious reasons)
[img src="https://BradBlog.com/Images/emo....gif" alt="whatever" width="20" height="20" /]
Hope that’s a little clearer than mud!
The above was for Dnacing Bear, of course.
Oh – and then, of course, Dnacing Bear, you just copy the code and paste it into your comment.
Thanks Peg C#42-44
Yeah- I got all that – even the ugly junky lines of I guess html- and how they need to be changed. What I don’t seem to be able to do is change the file back- it appears to be read only in Safari- and ther’s not an option in preferences to change that- You all have been great- and when I find a Mac freak to help me out you’ll see my Dnacing Bear Smilies all over the place. Unitl then- thanks again- and I’ll stick torarely commenting on the topics at hand. Peace Out
😉 😎 🙂
You guys forgot to say off topic …
Peg C you should request a smiley school thread …
Then we could all do major cool stuff …
love,
Dredd
There is a list of local newspapers that have published the Gannon Story on Media Matters. Link here.
Remember during the election the prez did lots of interviews with small local papers but avoided the big boys when possible.
This may work for the real journalists (left blogs) too.
It doesn’t seem like Gannon Guckie is going away.
And here.
And here.
Oh, and other Talon reporters plagiarize too!
And here.
Raw Story reports here that other senators are signing a letter that will be released to the MSM.
Same topic as Dredd. Action alert from AmericaBlog. Tell your Senators to sign Durbin letter.
Dredd –
Sorry about the OT postings above. Just got carried away. 😉
I haven’t seen Open Source Press updates referred to in this thread, so I’m posting the link. It’s easy to overlook at Raw Story, because it appears, miniaturized, in the date line.
Cheryl – is this efficient enough?
Oops –
Again:
Uh ohh….
Hey, Cheryl,
I stole you! Got it!!!
Yay, Bear!!!
(I still find the spelling of your name counterintuitive.)
It appears that all the synapses- well…enough anyway finally all fired at connected at the magical for me to relaise what I had been doing wrong than ks Peg C for sticking with me- it only took me trying to do it aobut 5 tiimes before I finally got it. i could cry….
Yeah…It’s really fine to write Dancing- I just stick with Dnacing because it was time for a change.
I’m off to bed.
Thaks again.
Dredd led us along a snipe-hunt path, too. Do you know what happens when you right-click on one of these smilies? A menu drops down, at the bottom of which is the word "Properties." When "Properties" is clicked, you get a tablet report which includes the source URL and the dimensions of the jpg or gif. OK.
So right-click your smiley of choice, copy the URL, go back to your comment, type and continue with your message.
Dredd, if you have a more convoluted approach, let us all know.
[img src="URL" width=20 height=20]
Replace [] with .
Check out the Gannon timeline at The Nashua Advocate today.
This is hilarious.
A syndicated columnist of the Chicago Tribune, Clarence Page, has written on the story in an onliner. Newsday story here.
Even the WorldNetDaily is getting in on the act. WTF???
Peg C and Dnacing Bear,
Wow! This smilie thing is getting waaay out of hand!
Black pots and black kettles, Cheryl!
Re #70 this is what he said two days ago. Why the change of heart, I wonder?
Peg C,
Ouch!!! Guilty as charged.
Hoo haa! I’m enjoying this way too much! I hate hypocrites!
A very interesting article here: Did White House S&M ring order special videos from Abu Ghraib?
Rick: I stored the files:
A brief history of time in…
The attempted murder of journalism…
developing….
Cheryl #70.
I wonder if our to WND, including my poetry, could have made them (take a closer look)
Anyway congrats to WND for the article you linked to in your #70. They are now Hanes.
Especially your poetry Dredd. They are Hanes.
Who are Hanes? Fruit of the Loom? Hanes Her Way? Or His?
Furthermore, I think that WND article is just what some evil doctor ordered so that RIGHTeous journalists could appear bith virtuous and above reproach AND pat themselves so hard on the back their readers coughed. Don’t buy it for a nano-second.
These Web-games are starting to scare me.
"Bith?" Read "both."
I’m not sure we should do this because of bandwidth or something but here goes. It’s too good!
Gannon Guckie’s on the Today show. Slippery little weasel.
The San Franciso Chronicle has an op ed on Gannon Guckie today.
Cheryl #83-#84 you are always there for us. The MSM is dealing with it better than expected. Hey, good for them.
Peg C #80-#81 When the MSM or bloggers correct a prior erroneous article that is their good. Let them get good if they want to. I surely welcome it. That is what Cheryl and I intended to say in #70, #73, #78, and #79.
We can’t put damned if they do and damned if the don’t energy out there … we should not damn them if they report the Gannon thing proper after having done it bad before can we?
Wow! Talon News suspends Web operation! Cool! Those bastards. They’ll get theirs.
Raw Story has a story link indicating that Kerry is also signing the letter to request an investigation into the Gannon debacle.
Cheryl #86 Perhaps we should remind them of the saying "You can run but you can’t hide".
Or perhaps, "You can jeckle buy you can’t hyde".
Or as Bush would say, "You can run but we’ll find you?"
N.B. Joe Biden of recent Bill Maher fame will not sign. God, these cushy government types are perverse!
Dredd #88, Cheryl #89 –
"You can run but we…ah…we’ll just…ah…open that closet door!"
Winter Patriot #76 – Oddly enough, when the evidence of the abuse at Abu Ghraib came out, I posted on another board, "What happened to all of those photos and videos? Probably wind up on some sick porn site"
Wow.
Okay I think I’m gonna be sick now.
WP #76, Kestrel #92 – Just got around to reading that. Ooooof, thud. Madsen had better follow through on those connections. I just hope HE stays alive. There are an awful lot of people all of a sudden whose necks seem to be a little too well positioned under the blade of the CON guillotine.
FLASH
The News Hour with Jim Lehrer covered the Gannon story on live TV just now.
Okay, we’ve been expecting disinformation on the Gannon story, and this may very well be that, so we might want to do a little more digging before passing it off. BUT..what if it’s true?
Has anyone else heard anything at all about this??
Is James Guckert really Johnny D. Gosch??
And while you’re recovering from chill bumps on that one, check out this (again, USE CAUTION in accepting it as truth):
Sherman SkolnicK: Hunter Thompson Suicided
Holy Jayzus..read the responses at the bottom of the Johnny Gosch story.
Okay, I’ve got to get back to work, but first I’m gonna go hug my kid VERY TIGHTLY. Check back in a bit.
That’s way, way too creepy for me to even imagine that it might be true. What is the matter with people?
re #97 — hi Cheryl. Yes, it’s creepy. But remember: your inability to imagine that something might be true does not qualify as evidence. 😉
Hi Winter,
Hope you’re feeling better. Re: post #98 – I know. But it just makes me sick to my stomach. The things that some people do to other people. Animals.
The Gannon Story has been getting more coverage, and today the congress is pressing the issue as the white house stone walls (Raw Story link).
There is a funny article about Gannon (link here).
Satire of the meta-surreal:
THE JOHNNY GOSCH BLOG
http://johnnygosch.blogspot.com/
.