She's a lying scumbag! How much will it take before the American people see these thugs for what they are?

Well, technically Condi Rice wasn't EXACTLY lying when she said under oath that "no plan" had been submitted to the administration. Clarke did not send a *plan* --- he sent an *urgent request* for a meeting to coordinate security, which was put-off (i prefer to say "willfully and consciously ignored") until Sept. 4, 2001. She just probably didn't read it, since it wasn't important or anything.

See? No responsiblity there. (For the sarcasm-impaired: NOT)

It's tragic and ironic, to me, that the Repugs who enjoyed bashing Clinton for parsing his words are so gleefully blind and deaf when their own leaders do it so brazenly. (Except nobody died when Clinton lied.)

They are such faithful followers of the party that they seem to be completely blind to the great rip-off going on around them, in which they are the chum in the water.

This is only *one* significant incident in the Bush Administration's lethal pattern of saying one thing and doing another, of being slicker than Willie himself at wriggling out of responsibility. Sadly, for all of us, their deceptions are legion.

Lord, You gave them eyes, but they do not See. You gave them ears, but they do not Listen.

:plain: :plain: :plain:

First time poster here but been reading Bradblog (like its my religion) since a day after the election.

Today I received an 'instant message' from a friend not heard from in over a year. His name is Tony and is serving in Iraq as a machine-gun operater. He's 25. Young and beautiful...meek, mild mannered, scared, yet solid and committed to return home. He told me about his mess hall being bombed back in December, losing a buddy, getting shot at and shooting back on four occassions. The chat went on for about an hour and a half. And left me breathless.

Then there's the crap of todays news. 23 dead.

My friend is getting shot at while 'talking heads' lie and distort and commit treason. I can only hope justice and truth win and the Bushies are exposed.

Of what purpose does torture serve with a face like that?

re #3: Welcome, Rick. It's good to hear from you, finally.

I join you in your unspoken hope of seeing Tony come home safely, as well as the hopes of which you did speak so clearly.

I also hope you will continue posting.

Torqued # 4 Send Condisleazy to Gitmo. That will scare'em into fessin' up. :laugh:

Let me join with Winter in welcoming you Rick. I hope your friend makes it home safe and sound.

Do you know what I'm really getting tired of Zimalora? I'm really getting tired of ALL the politicians and their doublespeak word games. They know bloody well what people are asking when they are asked. I don't understand what the problem is in giving a simple answer. You can bet they wouldn't get away with talking to their families like that. Why is it any different for their constituents?

Perfect example. Have you seen today's WH press archives. That guy can't answer a simple question if he life depends on it! And why does the MSM let him get away with it? Sick!

Rick -

Thanks for coming out of the woodwork. It's good to see from ya. Promise we (well, most of us) won't bite

Best regards to your friend, and thanks for sharing that information.

Please feel free to give him my Email Address and let him know that I'd be pleased to tell his story if he'd like to share it. He will remain anonymous if he wishes. I respect my sources very much. Hopefully you recognize that if you've been reading since November. I'd love to hear from him.

Yes, Brad & Rick - I'm sorry Tony and all those other soldiers have been sent to "hell" in Iraq by the lying bastards in the White House. I hope Tony will return home safely and then have the satisfaction of seeing the cowardly bastards exposed and put in "hell" or jail for the murder of American and Iraqi citizens (jail being my second choice).

Had posted the memo at VR yesterday:

And thought about it all night and have tried to create a simple 'frame' that any of our fellow citizens could 'get'.

Today, at DU, in a related thread, a first time post appeared from someone who lost both wife and son in the 9/11 attacks. And, so I shared the allegory in that thread.

I'm posting it here because I think we need to indict and prosecute Bu$h, Rice and all their accomplices, but to do so we need to have many more of our citizens 'get it' --- really understand --and since I'm 'simple minded' maybe this will work for others:

Ms Rice, you are the driver of a school bus.

You are approaching a railroad crossing.

Well in time for you to stop, the warning lights begin flashing.

You ignore the warning and continue, Ms Rice.

You cross the tracks as the train explodes into the bus.

Many school children are killed and injured.

Many passengers on the train are killed and injured.

You survive, Ms Rice.

You and the owner of the school bus company lied and tried to suppress all the facts.

You, your boss and all your accomplices are now busted.

**********************

So, is it time to join with as many families of the victims of 9/11 as possible and file charges against Ms Rice & Mr Bush (and others) for their willful neglect and the resultant slaughter of thousands of our fellow citizens on 11 Sept 2001?

Would such a campaign be the type of non-violent, legal and systematic action that could succeed in bringing these criminals to justice?

If you think so and you are either a lawyer or know a lawyer who could offer an opinion, please ask.

If anyone here has contact with any of the victims of 9/11, maybe you could ask them if they would support legal action.

Thank you.

"HOW DO YOU LIKE BEING A CITIZEN IN A ROGUE SUPER_POWER?"

Cheryl in #7 wrote:

"I don't understand what the problem is in giving a simple answer. You can bet [politicians] wouldn't get away with talking to their families like that."

Well, Cheryl: If the simple answer is self-incriminating then you can see the problem with giving it. And please don't bet the ranch on any question concerning how they deal with their families.

I like that, Understandinglife. I'm tempted to extend the metaphor and have Ms. Rice jump on another loaded school bus, run a red light at rush hour and cause a fatal pile-up that kills or injures thousands but leaves her again unscathed. She even gets a citation for her dedication to her work.

But lawsuits should, I suppose, be kept to single issues. The problem with this fable is, that far from being "busted," the condo appears to be able to get away with anything. You can rub people's noses in the truth, but you can't make them smell it.

Condi Rice's disclaimer doesn't rise to the level of perjury. The White House received a terrorist warning without details, not a specific plan.

Bu this is why, in court, witnesses must swear to "Tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth." She didn't lie, but she didn't tell the whole truth either.

Condi reminds me of a kid who sees a friend steal an unknown student's lunch bucket at school and says to the principal, "I'm not aware of any person whose lunch has been stolen." The difference here is that we're talking about thousands of lives lost, not a bologna sandwich.

Hi Rick, and welcome to this lively conversation. It's so good to have a line to the truth of what is going on out there. Thanks.

Love that photo, Brad. you know how to pick'em.

That description of Condosleazy is perfect, Robert. I could actually hear her sweet little voice.
Actually, I noticed that her voice has a tremor in it, as if she is terrified. She should be. Maybe she is sensing something with here freakin' female intuition.

The worldwide leaders are pretty much spitting on her. It doesn't look like she will carry any weight. How could she? She is probably too busy primping for her next Vogue cover shot.

I don't think she is really getting away with it all. I believe things will get worse and worse for her, as her role as slave and yes-woman frustrates her desire for power. I don't think she will deal well with the realization that she has none.

Great Picture, Brad. Does it make her look like Gollum in Lord of the Rings to the rest of you?

"My Preciousssss."

Condi may well set back racial and gender equality by a whole generation. It's too bad, because she clearly has spent a lifetime struggling to overcome what she, at least, perceived as the handicap of being black. I don't hate her, like some of you. I hurt for her, actually. But she shouldn't be in the position she's in. The way she's running around Europe speaking her mind is nuts. She almost makes me wish we had Kissinger back. At least he knew how to be diplomatically subtle. Condi is likely to propel us straight into WWIII.

I have no soft feelings for a person who willingly participated in the selling of a lie that has killed over 100,000 people.

That tremor in her voice: It only happens when she's lying, but of course that's most of the time...

Teresa #18 Agreed

It is plain to see that she hates her blackness and uses it to gain admiration, just look at her sickening performance at the 2000 Repug Convention.

She'll get no sympathy here. She is complicit in the deaths of many thousands here and abroad.

My Friends......

Please watch this. Cry a little, as I did, but then feel EMPOWERED.

Peace

If the Condi picture was cropped just a little bit - the candles would look like jail bars!

Hey, the memo is from a disgruntled employee for bu$hit sake dammit.

Condi the Candi can't be blamed for that. If only Clarke knew his zealousness was contra the 911 plans he would understand why he was scorned.

That's the way it is when things get curiouser and curiouser.

Brad et al,

Thank you so much for the welcome. This blog, or should I say community?, pretty much has served as a launching pad into 'the new media' for me. I'm grateful for that and your patriotism.

Rick #24,
We are definitely a community. We listen, discuss, agree, disagree and generally support each other with love and respect. You are welcome here.

Unirealist #17,
How can you not hate a person who is generally accepted as being extremely bright, when she deliberately chooses to *hang her hat* with thugs, war criminals and murderers? And not only that, cheerfully and actively participates in their crimes! You're right though, it's too bad that she's a woman, and black. Gives ALL of us a bad name. All those years that our ancestors have struggled....gone!

I hope she comes to Canada so I can spit on her too.

Cheryl, et al -

"Extremely bright" does not equate with insightful, wise or even truly intelligent. "Extremely bright" means smart enough to excel at idea games, where the soul is disengaged from the drive train and the trajectory is all two-dimensional.

Too bad she wouldn't understand why we despise her. That dimension of her personality, if it ever existed, has been deleted in her quest for recognition and power. And too bad for blacks and hispanics that * has decided to showcase two, prominently, who are hardly representative.

Don't worry, Cheryl: fewer people than you might think buy into stereotyping.

Rick - Hi there! Hope we get to know you better!

For insight into how Rice is percieved by some African Americans, go here. The Black Commentator magazine is a rich resource, with great writers, and I love the graphics they use.

Supersoling - Yes, it's a great site. One of my top bookmarks.

Hi Supersoling,
I love reading the Black Commentator. The last paragraph is well worth repeating, dontcha' think?

"The entire planet is rejecting blatant American lies and aggression, and actively conspiring to undermine United States military, economic and political domination. This aggression now has a new face – that of a Black woman. We are saddened at the historical irony, but so be it. Evil comes in all colors."

Contrary to posts above, the Clarke memo outlines a plan in two respects. First, the plan demands decisions on funding the Northern Alliance, assisting Uzbekistan, and scehduling a Principals meeting. Second, attachment A speaks to "Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Network". It's not been released, but it looks like a plan to me. But, who really cares about semantics. It seems clear nothing of substance was done regarding al Queda until, well when we invaded Afganistan, so to deny that is the case, as has Ms. Rice, is plainly dishonest. Not as big a deal as denying a blow job, of course, but a lie nonetheless.

Contrary to posts above, the Clarke memo outlines a plan in two respects. First, the plan demands decisions on funding the Northern Alliance, assisting Uzbekistan, and scehduling a Principals meeting. Second, attachment A speaks to "Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Network". It's not been released, but it looks like a plan to me. But, who really cares about semantics. It seems clear nothing of substance was done regarding al Queda until, well when we invaded Afganistan, so to deny that is the case, as has Ms. Rice, is plainly dishonest. Not as big a deal as denying a blow job, of course, but a lie nonetheless.

To me it highlights a simple truth: The Bible and a Class A education will not change who you are. Without them, Condi would would be a desperate crack addict waiting in a dark hallway with a box cutter in her pocket. Waiting for the next poor addict to come by with a few rocks she could steal. Without them, and the silver spoon up his ass, George would be a WalMart greeter.

Bejammino #22,

YES!, YES!, YES!....about the candles being jail bars. I noticed that immediately.
It's in the cards!

Thanks again, Rick for enlightening us. Please stick around and share your knowledge and enthusiasm with us.

I think the candles looking like jail cell bars is tempting and teasing our hopes and her countenance is one of a scouling cat.

I think the picture is fate tantalizing us. We know what she is and where she belongs but ---she remains free and able to do more and worse.

Maybe the new 'coquet' of Europe will slip of her perch. A bouquet of catnip and some mdium-fine French wine could help.

Cole,
Don't you mean *freedom* wine?

Would like a gallon --please

Sorry Cheryl,
but I have trouble with some words of late (four years of late)--so many fine words have been perverted by the 'mob'.
And some off-color words are in the mainstream of GOPher-ism--like "Fuck you, Lehey"--who would have thunk it?

Put the "HOE" in Guantanimo!!!!

Lordy, Qualar! That rhymes so nicely. Music to my ears.

Incidentally, just saw:
That Henry Waxman has called for hearings on new data that there were 52 pre 911 warnings which were available to Chondi but----
she did not know? other priorities?
Released on Feb 10 at 3:10 pm
www.CommonDreams.org/news2005/0210-12.htm

Maybe the candles will burn higher and hotter?

Condi was the national security adviser to the president. If she had been Chief of Staff, or his appointment secretary, or Secretary of Commerce, Clarke's memo would not carry the weight it does.

What does the term "national security adviser" mean, except "counselor on matters relating to our national security?" She said there were no specifics to guide her...true, but if a national security adviser ignores warnings until actionable specifics become available, she isn't an adviser, she's a messenger.

Truth is, Condi Rice is whatever Bush wants her to be at any given moment. Now she's Secretary of State. That must make the descendants of William H. Seward, Charles Evans Hughes, George C. Marshall, and Dean Acheson feel a bit put out. I exclude "Dr. Strangelove" Kissinger, but even he would be preferable at the moment.

I think Kindasleazy is going to drive the final nail in the coffin of our diastrous foreign policy. Something very unsavory oozes out of her.
The rest of the world doesn't want it.

Nice one, Teresa! LOLL!! But I think gonzo and kinda will prove to be the mixed tag team of the millennium!