READER COMMENTS ON
"Olbermann on Curtis [UPDATED!]"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 12/21/2004 @ 2:40 pm PT...
Olbermann has the "I gotta be on the winning team" complex.
He will not step out even to the line where the public documents speak. He is way, way back behind that line.
A true reporter in a true democracy must at least step up to the public document line.
To do any less is a service to the enemy of news.
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John Deegan
said on 12/21/2004 @ 3:03 pm PT...
:(
I am so depressed. I just read, "How Democrats Enabled Republicans To Steal the 2004 Presidential Election" By J. F. Miglio (see:
http://www.onlinereviewofbooks.com/index.html)
If this article is true, then what's the use?
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Bando Bling
said on 12/21/2004 @ 3:52 pm PT...
Don't be sad John Deegan. Yes! the future is grim. Democrats are cowards who are happy to wash the windcreens of SUVs of their Republican counterparts in senate and congress. Meantime Republicans are crooks, thugs and political hackers who will continue to win till they have 100% of the seats in Congress and the Senate. Banana Republic???? Perfect signs of a hijacked democracy. Remember Sadam had a 99% political capital from the people of Iraq. Remember the Bathist party running the Iraqi media??
Bloggers are the rise of new media. Brad is one of our leader. Please read
"Death of National Media imminent in few years"
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Steve
said on 12/21/2004 @ 4:10 pm PT...
This is a copy of an e-mail I sent to Mr. Olbermann today in response to his take on the Curtis case:
Mr. Olbermann-
As the only mainstream newsperson that seems to be regularly following the election fraud issue I was incredibly disappointed in the fluff job you did on the Curtis-Feeney story today. Why even report the responses of Feeney or Yang's lawyer if you are not even going to at least challenge them with some of the contradictory information already published elsewhere? You make no mention of the compelling evidence that Yang Enterprises, through their lawyer, has already apparently been caught in a lie about Mr. Nee’s employment status with them. Also, where is the context of the already documented deeper relationship between Feeney and Yang's lawyer; or the contradictions already published regarding the portrayal of Mr. Curtis as a "disgruntled" employee. Perhaps some documentation of the police report supposedly filed by Yang after Mr. Curtis "threatened" the firms top officers might have been included. Also, how could it have been possible for Mr. Feeney, Yang Enterprises or the Florida legislature not to have seen the obvious conflict of interest in Feeney’s concurrent positions as counsel and lobbyist for Yang Enterprises while serving as a Florida state legislator? Only in the convoluted state of current governmental and business institutions would such a thing be tolerated.
The fact that Republicans in both State and Federal legislative positions made great efforts and, in fact, succeeded in preventing legislation that would mandate a paper trail for all vote tabulating mechanisms (when it IS available and could have been done if pursued expeditiously) is more than enough to cause any thinking person to be suspicious about what might have happened in many parts of the country in the recent elections. Considering all the pork barrel spending they authorize, there is NO justification for claiming that the expense of such technology was a legitimate reason for not pursuing it. Is there any expense more important than one that helps maintain the credibility of and the people’s faith in our democracy? Can we even claim to have a democracy without such faith and credibility? And how about the blatant conflict of interest in the outsourcing of voting machine technology and production to private enterprises that have such obvious vested interest in the outcome of the elections these voting machines will help determine? How can people who are entrusted with overseeing our democracy not see the self-evident importance of issues such as these?
Mr. Olbermann, I do not want to be overly critical and I do want to give you due credit for being willing to pursue this story at all. I have honestly never previously written a letter to a reporter or "to the editor" or called in to a talk show but I am truly moved and concerned about the possibility of significant election fraud in this country and its potential implications for our democracy. With the Republicans controlling all branches of our government and more and more of the established news media, it is obviously going to take some bold and brave efforts on the part of someone to fully investigate this story (a la Watergate) if we are truly going to get to the bottom of it. I've been hoping you might be that person. It is my feeling that you can either be remembered (or forgotten) as the only major media person who gave lip-service to this issue or, perhaps, as a historical figure who helped lead the news media, and perhaps our democracy, back from the wilderness. Are you up to it Mr. Olbermann?
Sincerely and Hopefully,
Steve
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STOP_George
said on 12/21/2004 @ 8:34 pm PT...
Mr. Olbermann pulled an "AP" on the other topic he mentioned in that blog as well. That other topic being: the triad technician disassembling the voting computer in Hocking county.
He failed to mention one tiny weeny question that was kinda important. HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THE TECHNICIAN "RECREATED" THE PROCEDURE?
After all, there were no experts watching him take apart the computer on December 10th. Indeed, Sherole Eaton had her back to him at times.
Also Olbermann failed to mention other important details mentioned in Eaton's affidavit (as AP had).
Check this site out to see how Olbermann's conclusion on this particular topic was completely off the mark.
>>> FOCUS: VOTERGATE
BIG HALF-TRUTH: No Evidence of Election Tampering from Computer Repair
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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winter patriot
said on 12/21/2004 @ 11:15 pm PT...
The Olbermann-Watergate satire is hilarious! Great work! Congratulations and thanks to whoever wrote it!
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Vandy from Japan
said on 12/22/2004 @ 1:19 am PT...
Here I thought Olbermann worthy of "coverage envy", the only guy on the block talking "about it". Then he decided to mess around with Bev Harris, who is out there, on the line, doing the sludge work, with an eye to the going the distance, and now this hairball about Curtis. There is alot of reading at blackbox.org and BradBlog (thanks Brad) of the kind that teaches us to evaluate spin when we see it. So, I don't get it --- Why, Keith? What are you doing? Are you in some kind of danger? The fate of Michael Moore.
Did you hear of how they rooted out Christianity in the Tokugawa regime? Documented in the work of historical fiction called _Silence_, by Shusako Endo, the profile of the idealist forced to sell-out because loyalty to a cause extracts an unthinkable price. No kidding. I wonder who got to him.
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weezil
said on 12/22/2004 @ 2:57 am PT...
Got to him, indeed.
This is a cub reporter level of analysis. Sure Olbermann wrote this?
-weez
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Terri in S. FL
said on 12/22/2004 @ 7:16 am PT...
The satire was not only funny, it is dead on the mark. If I see one more blog saying that we should be nice to Olbermann for being the only "journalist" brave enough to take on this fraud story, I think I'll have to duct tape my head to keep it from exploding.
I e-mailed him a few weeks back when he was slandering Bev Harris, and he actually wrote back and assured me that he doesn't actually have an "investigative" staff, they just pull stories off the AP or steal from bloggers and put their spin on it. And they're not really interesed in interviewing unknows, there's not ratings in that, which is why Bev got bumped for a more famous name, then slandered for not returning his calls.
This guy is a complete fake and about as reliable a news source as Karl Rove.
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Grim
said on 12/22/2004 @ 7:23 am PT...
Ummm. . .just to point this out. What sort of hard hitting 'journalism' can one expect from a guy who is most known for hosting SportCenter on ESPN???
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Terri in S. FL
said on 12/22/2004 @ 7:26 am PT...
Whoops, I almost forgot.
Brad, you rock, keep up the good work. I'm nominating you for Sexyist Man Alive. I want you to be the father of my children. Really, I mean it.
Love ya
T.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Val Zudell
said on 12/22/2004 @ 8:16 am PT...
I'm disgusted with Olberman's coverage of anything. It's about time to stop bothering to look at MSM at all. They are not reporting "news" anyway so why waste time checking out their stuff. I think it's time for us to boycott the media that is keeping us from getting the real news.
COMMENT #13 [Permalink]
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Val Zudell
said on 12/22/2004 @ 8:19 am PT...
By the way, How do you accidently pick a lock? He must think we're awfully stupid!
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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attorney jim
said on 12/22/2004 @ 12:38 pm PT...
So if the media isn't reporting your "conspiracy", they must be PART of the conspiracy, right? That darn Olbermann: wonder how much he got paid off by those pesky repubs.
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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attorney jim
said on 12/22/2004 @ 12:38 pm PT...
So if the media isn't reporting your "conspiracy", they must be PART of the conspiracy, right? That darn Olbermann: wonder how much he got paid off by those pesky repubs.
COMMENT #16 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 12/22/2004 @ 2:40 pm PT...
Neo-cons like to quote the Federalist Papers. They also tend to condemn any notion of the concept of "conspiracy". The phrase "conspiracy theory" is a buzz-word phrase for them. Somehow they equate "conspiracy theory" with "unpatriotic".
The truth is, however, that conspiracy theories are recognized as real things in the Federalist papers, and true americans think "conspiracy"!!!
Lets look at some of the comments of Alexander Hamilton, a true american patriot:
"The success of it would require not merely a factious majority in the legislature, but the concurrence of the courts of justice and of the body of the people. If the judges were not embarked in a *CONSPIRACY* with the legislature, they would pronounce the resolutions of such a majority to be contrary to the supreme law of the land, unconstitutional, and void." (Federalist #16, emphasis added)
"Is it presumable, that every man, the instant he took his seat in the national Senate or House of Representatives, would commence a traitor to his constituents and to his country? Can it be supposed that there would not be found one man, discerning enough to detect so atrocious a *CONSPIRACY*, or bold or honest enough to apprise his constituents of their danger?" (Federalist #26, emphasis added)
"Schemes to subvert the liberties of a great community REQUIRE TIME to mature them for execution. An army, so large as seriously to menace those liberties, could only be formed by progressive augmentations; which would suppose, not merely a temporary combination between the legislature and executive, but a continued *CONSPIRACY* for a series of time." (Federalist #26, emphasis added)
"I am unable to conceive that the State legislatures, which must feel so many motives to watch, and which possess so many means of counteracting, the federal legislature, would fail either to detect or to defeat a *CONSPIRACY* of the latter against the liberties of their common constituents" (Federalist #55, emphasis added)
"... if the leaders of a few of the most important States should have entered into a previous *CONSPIRACY* to prevent an election." (Federalist #59, emphasis added)
"If a governor of New York, therefore, should be at the head of any such *CONSPIRACY* ... All *CONSPIRACIES* and plots ..." (Federalist #69, emphasis added)
"The charge of a *CONSPIRACY* against the liberties of the people ..." (Federalist #89, emphasis added)
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Brad
said on 12/22/2004 @ 6:59 pm PT...
Those are your words, Attorney Jim. Not mine.
Thanks, but I've already got more than enough as you may notice. You needn't put any more in my mouth for me.
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