In an earlier item here, after reading just the transcript, I gave the advantage to Michael Moore in the big Moore/O'Reilly dustup in Boston.
After seeing the actual broadcast, I'll stand by my original assessment. But I will add that Moore could have better made his case about Bush lying before the war had he remembered to mention Bush's false promise to use the military only as "a last option".
The fact is Bush promised time and again to do so. And in the process of that chest-thumping lie, found enough gullible (or cowardly) Senators --- including John Kerry --- to believe him at the time. They believed him enough that they were willing to vote for a foolish (and cowardly) resolution giving Bush a blank check to screw us over for decades and in the bargain send thousands to their deaths for, shall we charitably call them, dubious reasons.
That little historical fact --- the UN Inspectors who were on the ground, had complete run of the country, and had requested just another 30 or 60 days to complete their work --- is frequently overlooked by both the Anti-Warriors and the Bush Apologists. The latter by convenience, no doubt. And the former have so many Adminstration lies and deceptions to keep track of, it no doubt gets to difficult to remember them in the heat of being bloviated at. Especially on air. Especially by O'Reilly.
Moore was, however, smartly able to get the concession from O'Reilly that this war based on a mistake.
But to the larger point was this key exchange...One that is really at the crux of the entire anti-war argument of folks like myself. And one that I would ask any reader to consider well for themselves:
MOORE: So you would sacrifice your child to secure Fallujah? I want to hear you say that.
O'REILLY: I would sacrifice myselfó
MOORE: Your childóIts Bush sending the children there.
O'REILLY: I would sacrifice myself.
MOORE: You and I don't go to war, because we're too oldó
O'REILLY: Because if we back down, there will be more deaths and you know it.
MOORE: Say ĎI Bill O'Reilly would sacrifice my child to secure Fallujah'
O'REILLY: I'm not going to say what you say, you're a, that's ridiculous
MOORE: You don't believe that. Why should Bush sacrifice the children of people across America for this?
O'REILLY: I'm glad we've had this discussion because it just shows you that I see the world my way, you see the world your way, alrightóand the audience is watching us here and they can decide who is right and who is wrong and that's the fair way to do it. Right?
MOORE: Right, I would not sacrifice my child to secure Fallujah and you would?
O'REILLY: I would sacrifice myself.
MOORE: You wouldn't send another child, another parents child to Fallujah, would you? You would sacrifice your life to secure Fallujah?
O'REILLY: I would.
MOORE: Can we sign him up? Can we sign him up right now?
O'REILLY: That's right.
MOORE: Where's the recruiter?
O'REILLY: You'd love to get rid of me.
MOORE: No I don't wantóI want you to live. I want you to live.
O'REILLY: I appreciate that. Michael Moore everybody. There he isÖ
Never mind O'Reilly's false machismo there (I'm sure the U.S. Military could find a place for him if he really meant what he said about sacrificing himself. Apparently, the U.S. Army has just instructed a 67 year-old officer who served for 41 years to report for a physical like 5600 other "retired" non-reservists who have been informed that they may soon be called back to active duty in Iraq!)...But the real question is, would you sacrifice your child to secure Fallujah?
If the answer is yes, I'm sure there's a Recruiting Center nearby. And if the answer is no, but that you'd sacrifice yourself, well, again, I'm sure there's a Recruiting Center nearby and they'd be thrilled to see you!
But if the answer is no on both accounts, and yet you are either in favor of this war, or in favor of Bush this November, then you're either a liar or a hypocrite.
Perhaps if a few more lawmakers asked that question of themselves, or their kids (and that would include those like Bush and Cheney who both opted out of defending their country with their lives when they had the chance, and apparently haven't encouraged their own kids to sign up either!) we'd not be in this fine mess today.
America would be safer for it and a thousand more Americans would be alive to enjoy it.