READER COMMENTS ON
"Former Prosecutor on Gonzales Resignation: 'Administration is Cutting Off Arms and Legs to Save Itself'"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 8/27/2007 @ 11:14 am PT...
Senator Reid (D-NV) says this is not the end of the matter. Criminal acts are not washed away by quitting one's job.
Gonzales quit because he was another choking point for the republican party, and that party still harbors the fantasy of winning back the majority in the House and the Senate, and winning the presidency.
If they think this is the beginning of the rejuvination of that fantasy ... wrong again.
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Adam Fulford
said on 8/27/2007 @ 1:07 pm PT...
Dems ought to reconsider their Constitutional duty of bringing accountability to the Executive Branch for the many demonstrated acts of High Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Sadly for America and the world, it is not likely to happen any time soon. The vast majority of Dems are spineless and cowardly corporate milquestoasts. Like prostitutes, they may be nice in person and all that, but they are still fully dedicated to serving their vile and sociopathic pimps (aka corporate sponsors). The only viable solution is to flush the corporate lobbyists and their whores out of Washington. Vote for Dennis Kucinich.
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Amerikagulag
said on 8/27/2007 @ 2:07 pm PT...
The Dems will not impeach. There is ONE party - the WAR party. Wake up
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Off the Grid
said on 8/27/2007 @ 2:31 pm PT...
The real point is that Clinton II just locked up the DC dems, otherwise known as the liars and spyers. You might know them from their continued support balks for impeachment.
Make no mistake while some of the dems appear to support an actual democracy(for the sake of the status quo, not sustainability), the leadership and money march lockstep with the same people who brought us to war in Iraq. And so help us (insert religious reference here) if we elect Hillary, we'll march headlong into peak oil with our dept going up, our economy going down, and our asses blowing in the breeze. If you disagree I suggest you stop by www.afterdowningstreet.org and see what David Swanson has said about Hillary and the war.
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Amerikagulag
said on 8/27/2007 @ 2:45 pm PT...
"...winning back the majority in the House and the Senate, and winning the presidency...."
How can you speak of 'winning' elections when this very site (and god bless you for it) demonstrates to you time and time again that the electoral system in the US is a scam. Have you forgotten 2000? 2004? We have a SQUATTER in the White house who was never elected. And they've labored long and hard since then to insure future events are controlled also. Voting is become a placebo.
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devin
said on 8/27/2007 @ 2:47 pm PT...
Indeed, the death by extremely slow surgery...Cheney will be next and he doesn't have to leave before Labor Day because he has the ultimate excuse: his heart--no one would believe he would actually WANT to spend time with his harpy of a wife, Lynn. However, we might accept out to lunch: "went Fly Fishing" forever...
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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newjesustimes
said on 8/27/2007 @ 3:49 pm PT...
I wonder why this came out today, on a Monday, and not on Friday. Is there something even bigger they're saving to announce the last minute before the long weekend? Or do they really think this will make democrats look bad?
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Big Dan
said on 8/27/2007 @ 7:15 pm PT...
Gonzales says, "Fuck the kids!!! I'm resigning!!!"
Well, when he WOULDN'T resign, he said THIS:
"I'm not going to resign," he said. "I'm going to stay focused on protecting our kids."
So, therefore, since he's resigning, he's saying, "Fuck the kids!!! I'm resigning!!!"
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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DES
said on 8/27/2007 @ 7:23 pm PT...
Apparently, Gonzo isn't really broken up about joining the ranks of unemployed Bushies:
Out of Camp Bushie, Gonzo Hits The Links
If this was supposed to be a weekend of humiliation and turmoil for Alberto Gonzales, it sure didn't show in his back swing.
On Saturday, not a full day after he secretly tendered his resignation to President Bush, Gonzales joined other "loyal Bushies" (to quote a famous phrase of Gonzalez's former chief of staff) for a round of golf at the tony Chevy Chase Club.
Gonzales went as the guest of longtime Bushie Clay Johnson, the deputy director for management at the Office of Management and Budget. The connection between Johnson and Gonzales dates back to the president's time in Austin: Johnson, a member of the Chevy Chase Club, was Gov. Bush's chief of staff when Gonzales was top counsel to the governor and future president.
Just minutes after news broke that Gonzales was stepping down, a breathless loyal Sleuthie called to report that the AG was spotted playing golf Saturday with Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice at the exclusive club in Chevy Chase, Md.
Not exactly right, according to White House spokesman Tony Fratto.
He clarified that Gonzales played with the menfolk --- a foursome of Johnson, Gonzales and two other unidentified friends --- while Condi played with Johnson's wife and two other women.
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Agent 99
said on 8/27/2007 @ 7:24 pm PT...
BIG Dan
Actually, more like he said, "Fuck the kids!!!" well before he even got the job.
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Ancient
said on 8/27/2007 @ 7:37 pm PT...
Ya know Adam, I keep thinking Kucinich/Paul could be a country uniter. Yes we do need healing, but world matters take precedence------and Kucinich is quite right. With Paul on point/bank guard-------- regular Americans would still be considered!
Pretty crazy huh, but I think it could work.
COMMENT #12 [Permalink]
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Big Dan
said on 8/27/2007 @ 7:56 pm PT...
I guess his "I'm not resigning...I want to help the kids" PLOY didn't work!
Agent99: The old "I'm not resigning to help the kids" trick (Maxwell Smart)
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Pat
said on 8/27/2007 @ 8:40 pm PT...
I too find it strange that the neocrats won't impeach even though there is a mountain of evidence not just pointing to high crimes and misdemeanors, but to treason as well. What about the two trillion missing from the DOD on 9/10/01? That alone is grounds for serious audit, and not just for Donald. Where do you think that money went? Think real hard. And from the articles I have seen, Gonzo isn't the only one who likes to fuck kids.
Dyncorp anyone?
COMMENT #14 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 8/27/2007 @ 10:33 pm PT...
Yeah Pat #13, mercenaries are going for our dollars while service men and women die cheap!
COMMENT #15 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 8/28/2007 @ 7:11 am PT...
Another thing that's been bugging me, blow-your-face-off wants to label a whole countrie's army as global terrorists. Now, I do believe every country has a right to secure its self with an army that operates within the international codes, so where the fuck does he get off calling Iran's army terrorists? You don't pick a fight with a country of 400,000 highly trained soldiers who just happen to be next door to your exhausted 120,000 men and women, because you never secured arms caches in the beginning of your oil war, or have lost over 190,000 weapons, countless billions of dollars ect... because you can't figure out what probably small sect of pissed off people are making bombs. And less we forget our contracted-for-money-elite-goon-squads that are not accountable to our military ethics code that have been involved in Abu Grav, and other purported atrocities(watch Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers) then tell me who is supporting terror cells. I do want to make clear that I don't believe all contractors behave that way , but there are some that aren't being brought to justice. So WHAT THE FUCK cheney ?
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Ancient
said on 8/28/2007 @ 7:21 am PT...
Congress start Impeachment on that liar now. I'm tired of them always having the upperhand of surprize moves on their side.(Like starting WWIII) JUST DO IT!
COMMENT #17 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 8/28/2007 @ 9:35 am PT...
And it wouldn't hurt to rescind idiotboy's War Powers Act too!
COMMENT #18 [Permalink]
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Ancient
said on 8/28/2007 @ 6:48 pm PT...
Yikes! I got it wrong in my statement above #15 its not the entire county's military but the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20331180/
But I still say threatening part of a country's military with our troops next door would have horrific consequences and they just don't care.
COMMENT #19 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 8/29/2007 @ 5:55 am PT...
Adam Fulford #2
Out promoting urban myth today?
For any others who are civics challenged, the Democrats are in the voting minority in the Senate.
The Democrats have 48 voting members so far in the 110th Senate, the Republicans have 49, and the Independents have 2. Actually, the Republicans have further advantage, because in case of a tie, Dick Cheney casts the tiebreaker.
It takes a very large majority (67 votes) in the Senate to impeach. The math is 67-48=19 ... so your harangue is 19 votes short of reality.
It takes a relatively large majority (60 votes) in the Senate to stop a filibuster. The math is 60-48=12 ... so your harangue is 12 votes short of reality. The republicans have filibustered about 50 times and counting this year alone, even tho their mantra has been "at least give it a floor vote". Hypocrites.
If you really want to impeach, instead of gadfly, then convince 19 republicans to vote for impeachment. Or stop spreading the myths.
COMMENT #20 [Permalink]
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flyover_27
said on 9/8/2007 @ 11:14 am PT...
Is Secrecy Necessary: Gonzales and Systemic Corruption
(Bye, bye Gonzales; don't let the door hit you on the ____ on the way out!)
You won't find me praising Gonzales, but there are legitimate reasons why some information is not open and must be treated as sensitive or classified secret.
When investigations must be done, investigators and attorneys have to be able to be cleared to the level of the information they will have the need to hear and view. This takes time. It is one reason the work of investigative or oversight committees or groups such as the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform seem somewhat slow sometimes, as when they have major investigations to work to completion, it takes time to get all of the i's dotted and t's crossed and the people who need to do the work cleared.
What most aggravates me, is the problem we have with some who are in positions of "trust" and behind the curtain of secrecy, who are not honest and ethical about how they use that designated veil. Unfortunately, we are stymied by what they decide to do. If they choose to hide their quite common variety of graft, corruption, quid pro quo dealings, etc. behind the veil of security, it is very difficult for those who would shine light on them and those who would try to hold them accountable. Right now we are simple drowning in crap and corruption.
There are a growing number of people trying to be tree cleaners, Federal and national security whistleblowers, as well as some corporate whistleblowers. Often when they discover things that should not be, in the course of doing their job, they find themselves at the fork in the road; they can ignore what they've found and avoid a whole lot of punishment, or report it as they should. For those who report it within the context of their job, often behind the veil of secrecy, and then are pounded for doing so by the wrongdoers, it has been progressively harder to get things out into the open because of the dishonesty and manipulation of the wrongdoers all the way up the food chain to the highest levels of our government. I'm starting to see the path of whistleblowers as resembling the Oregon trail, with the discarded remains littering the landscape. It is a very tangled web.
GFS