READER COMMENTS ON
"Does Libby Get Off Scot-Free?"
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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 7/4/2007 @ 6:34 am PT...
Happy 4th Margie and all.
It could go either way with Libby. You bring up a point I am sure the prosecution will also point out.
One looming question remains ... how are those congress folk going to get around this?
Bush cannot commute the sentence of the voters ... to vote the bums out ...
today is bombs bursting in air day ...
but election day '08 may be bums bursting in air day because the people are mad as hornets ...
and the neoCons have been poking them with sticks for a long time now.
Bzzzzzzzz ...
COMMENT #2 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 7/4/2007 @ 7:04 am PT...
A well known investigative reporter argues that legally Libby is going free because he is a lynchpin in a cover up:
By commuting Libby’s 30-month jail sentence on July 2 – and dangling the possibility of a full pardon later – Bush has moved to ensure that Cheney’s former chief of staff keeps his mouth shut and that the full story is never told.
(Robert Parry, emphasis added).
COMMENT #3 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 7/4/2007 @ 9:09 am PT...
Margie,
It isn't over til its over.
NIST has had an "official attitude" but that may be changing:
NIST exploring 9/11 conspiracy theory for WTC-7: New witness confirms Scholars previous findings: Madison, WI (OpEdNews) 1 July 2007 – The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) appears to be moving in the direction of a "conspiracy theory" about the destruction of WTC-7 on 9/11 just as a new witness has emerged reporting extensive destruction inside the building many hours before it would be demolished. According to James Fetzer, the founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, these turns of events provide further confirmation for the conclusion that WTC-7 was brought down by a controlled demolition at 5:20 PM/ET. "Anyone who googles WTC-7 will see an event that looks exactly like a controlled demolition, just as Peter Jennings and Dan Rather reported at the time. That is why this event makes NIST so uncomfortable."
(NIST Changing?).
Perhaps some of the changes are because official scientists are debunking the official conspiracy theory:
Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
That guy is Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret). He says this about the matter:
"A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…
Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.
I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder."
(Link to Video, emphasis added).
If officials doubt the official government conspiracy theory of 911, why would they not listen to Fitzgerald / Libby coverup conspiracy theories?
COMMENT #4 [Permalink]
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Rosencrantz
said on 7/4/2007 @ 9:54 am PT...
Of course Scooter is off scott-free. Even if probation was in place for two years, why would Scooter feel the need to follow the rules of probation? After all, if Bush thinks 30 months in jail for perjuring himself and obstructing justive is "unreasonable", then why would Bush allow Scooter to go to jail for violating probation? Isn't violating probation even less serious of an offense?
COMMENT #5 [Permalink]
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Big Dan
said on 7/4/2007 @ 12:15 pm PT...
Meet Victor Rita, serving 33 months for the same crime as Libby:
"Since Victor Rita's crimes seems, in context, to be less serious than Lewis Libby's crimes, I view Rita's 33-month sentence as a possible benchmark for Libby's sentence."
As a friend of mine said, "Does that mean I would get off, if I broke the law?"
I said to him, "No, you see, there are TWO DIFFERENT SETS of laws for the citizens of the United States..."
http://sentencing.typepa.../03/comparing_lewis.html
COMMENT #6 [Permalink]
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Big Dan
said on 7/4/2007 @ 12:19 pm PT...
"You see, if YOU got caught drunk driving, YOU would be in jail. If you worked for Bush and got a million people killed based on lying to the American people, including thousands of our own troops, and tens-of-thousands wounded American troops, and stole elections to do so in the first place...NO, you wouldn't go to jail. THEY have a different set of laws than us, because THEY are more Patriotic, THEY are smarter than us, THEY have more money than us, and THEY have stolen our democracy."
COMMENT #7 [Permalink]
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WS
said on 7/4/2007 @ 9:08 pm PT...
You know why this is so incredibly amusing?? It's so much like everything else Bush is criticized for.
How is Scooter's Get Out Of Jail Free card like Iraq?
1. President Bush doesn't think about consequences
A. Libby, given probation but no jail time, is now is (legal) limbo
B. So are our soldiers in Iraq
2. Bush doesn't care what anyone thinks of his contradictions, lies, or coverups
A. Libby gets off easy for behavior Bush claimed was "unacceptable", in a fine example of flip flopping
B. We are in Iraq because of lies, staying because of lies, not holding the Iraqi government accountable, in another example of flip flopping (um, and lies)
3. Bush doesn't care who gets trampled by his twisted "loyalties" to Bushies
A. Libby scoots out of jail and can protect the VP, while Bush shoots the bird at the Justice Dept (and heck, everyone else)
B. Bushies get armored vehicles in Iraq, instead of Humvees with "bomb me" signs painted on them, but really, what have the soldiers ever done for Bush?
4. Bush and Cheney decide to protect themselves at all costs, unhindered by concerns about prior statements or contradictions
A. Libby was given a sentence the Bush administration previously, in a different perjury case, described as "not excessive", but now suddenly is
B. Iraq, a war of "liberation" and "freedom" is now NOT going to be free of our soldiers, broken machines, walls, and relentless propaganda.
Bush is the very best president ever, according to the Zaphod Beeblebrox standard, which say that the President's only job is to serve as a distraction for what the government is actually NOT doing for you (but to you).
lol
COMMENT #8 [Permalink]
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Agent 99
said on 7/4/2007 @ 11:48 pm PT...
WS
Har-dee-har-fucking-har-har....
COMMENT #9 [Permalink]
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Dredd
said on 7/5/2007 @ 7:56 am PT...
Big Dan #5
John Edwards is always talking about "two Americas", generally in the economic sense.
However we see that their are two Americas when it comes to justice.
There is the Department of Justice Just Us for the bushies, and there is something else for the rest of us.
COMMENT #10 [Permalink]
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texaslady
said on 7/5/2007 @ 10:54 am PT...
Gee Libby loses his license, pays the fine and is on probabtion. Want to bet the legal fees have been covered and with a $5 million slush defense fund the fine is a drop in the bucket. Should leave him with a bit of walking around money.
But what do you bet that silence costs more than that and Libby can buy an island somewhere now.
COMMENT #11 [Permalink]
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Phil
said on 7/5/2007 @ 11:15 am PT...
TREASON
FUCKING TREASON! ALL THE WAY AROUND, ALL THE ACTIONS THEY DO!
Kau na hehena mikini's a na Moana!